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2003-04-22 10:08:49 PM
MorePeasPlease
";)"


Simple ideograph from simple people.
 
2003-04-22 10:11:29 PM
Donald_McRonald-

Don't tease me, I have a soccer ball.
 
2003-04-22 10:12:30 PM
stop calling each other simple and let's all join under the banner of NO NEW LINKS FOR 4 FREAKIN' HOURS!!! I think us denizens of FARK need to revolt. Well some of us, the others are already revolting enough.



I apologize for the terrible pun. I AM that bored :(
 
2003-04-22 10:13:19 PM
As long as there are evil people no government can fuction for long. Well I got news for you boys the Roman empire is falling agian. Who will take over this time? I don't know maybe China? That's where all of our work is going. Why not? I don't hate the USA by any means, I love this country. So many people are in such denile that this country is almost bankrupt caused by corporate creed over the last 50 years. Wake-up, our current government is not working. As long as we keep electing evil corupt leaders there is no hope at all. We have to go back to our orginal constitution and stop these elected officials from wiping their ass with it.
 
2003-04-22 10:14:18 PM
Wow, very active commenting today. 15 threads w/ >100 comments. 8 threads w/ >200 comments. I think there's a record for this...most flamewars in a day.
 
2003-04-22 10:15:24 PM
MorePeasPlease:

I don't understand what your saying. You want me to post simpler so you can understand it?
 
2003-04-22 10:15:29 PM
So many people are in such denile that this country is almost bankrupt caused by corporate creed over the last 50 years.

Creed? They suck.
 
2003-04-22 10:15:39 PM
Exodus2001:
You are the biggest idiot ever!!!!
 
2003-04-22 10:16:52 PM
Exodus2001:
You are the biggest idiot ever!!!!


Am not, your a stupid face!!!
 
2003-04-22 10:18:23 PM
Millay writes:

But think of the chiiiiiiiiiiiiildren!

Sen. Hillary the Schmuck's fav line...and it's still just as tired today as it was in the 90s. LOL

Oh yeah, I do...and the billions we should be spending on everything from developing fusion power, to preservation of wild areas, to replacements for the antique space shuttles that are falling out of the sky, to better health care.

Neither California, nor the U.S. as a whole, can have it all. We never could, but we deluded ourselves to thinking that just because we are the biggest badass on the block, and pretty much have been since 1945. California as a state and the U.S. in general needs to get it through its collective head that if you want modest taxes and continued low interest rates and a resulting excellent standard of living overall, then stop promising to people what you can't deliver.

One additional note...

Politically California is the France of America. Having lived there I can tell you that there are wild swings left and right depending upon the prevailing mood. Maybe some people think that is healthy, but I call it a sign of instability waiting for a major crisis to fall on its arse.

--h
 
2003-04-22 10:19:02 PM
Ok, I'm not going to read Ironpoint's post. But I'm guessing he thinks I am not a total asshole.

/wide open
 
2003-04-22 10:21:14 PM
My massive cock and i want a new post.
 
2003-04-22 10:21:21 PM
MorteDiem Our entire economic system is built on a false premise of endless growth.

Best comment I've read in this whole meandering thread. Well, I haven't read them all, but still....I'd like to know where we're going to get a billion more jobs by the time we have a billion more people, or 2 billion more jobs for the 2 billion people, not to mention the endless resources that will be required to make jobs for, and support billions of more people. That's in the whole world, but I like to think of global destruction, not just California's.
 
2003-04-22 10:21:39 PM
Exodus: The funny thing is that you're agreeing with me politically... I believe the government is overgrown and corrupt, but that socialsm isn't the answer, it never has been, and never will be. You were advocating a moneyless system, but there will always be differences in material wealth.

you say:
"We have to go back to our orginal constitution and stop these elected officials from wiping their ass with it."

That's exactly my viewpoint. Money is an integral part of this, however, as economics drives a legally lean system. You are stating the viewpoint of a true conservative (original meaning regarding constitutional interpretation), now termed a libertarian.

(or were you not responding to me, I think I was the only 'dissenting' viewpoint...)
 
2003-04-22 10:26:24 PM
JESUS CHRISTOS! SLOW NEWS DAY OR WHAT?! SOMEBODY GET ANOTHER LINK.
 
2003-04-22 10:28:22 PM
We had better get a new post soon. Cannibalism is setting in.
 
2003-04-22 10:28:31 PM
"So many people are in such denile that this country is almost bankrupt caused by corporate creed over the last 50 years. Wake-up, our current government is not working. As long as we keep electing evil corupt leaders there is no hope at all"

Yeah, lets give up on capitalism and adopt socialism or communism. The only thing the capitalist system has done is make one of the youngest nations (US) in Western Civilization as the most dominant economically (GDP) and militarily.

Or better yet, lets become a welfare state like a lot of the countries in continental Europe. That way we can become militarily insignificant and therefore just plain insignificant.
 
2003-04-22 10:28:47 PM
EL_FABREZ-
try it like this:

JESUS CHRISTOS! SLOW NEWS DAY OR WHAT?! SOMEBODY GET ANOTHER LINK.
 
2003-04-22 10:29:20 PM
"What happened to you, China? You used to be cool...

and for the rest of you, go home and look in your mailboxes 'cause I totally remember sending out checks"

Smell ya later, California...smell ya later forever!
 
2003-04-22 10:32:35 PM
TheBigZ:

Things will never work out as long as long as everything is based on money and/or Bad people rule everything.

socialsm isn't the answer

Well I know that. There is no answer as long as there are bad people.

Don't you people get it. It's not a question of government it's a question of morals. And I'm not some some wacked out hippy or Bible freak. People are electing bad people to run their contries and the bar is lowered every election that passes.
 
2003-04-22 10:33:59 PM
Jjorsett

farkin' A baby!
 
2003-04-22 10:34:29 PM
Jjorsett: Outstanding job.
 
2003-04-22 10:40:03 PM
Exodus2001

It's worst than you think. The entire country is run by P2OG which in tern is run by Zion, the anti-christ. The evil you speak of is far more sinister and ancient than you could possibly imagine.
 
2003-04-22 10:49:54 PM
Indiana isn't allowed to go into debt, via its Constitution. HAHAHAHAHA.
 
2003-04-22 10:55:47 PM
Screaming_Insomniac:
Shut UP!!!:

After must conflicts there are spoils of war, We didn't occupy other nations that we have been victorious in HOWEVER we do have military bases in ALL of those countries.

If Mexico could not defend there teritory did they even own it?? I guess it were was there property b/c they were there first? Great.. here on Earth...

As it was said before in this thread California is having problems because of decreased revenue i.e people are not working.. Who started the war with Mexico in the first place???

C4sh
 
2003-04-22 11:00:42 PM
Here's a fundraising idea...send out some of these:

(hint: this is satire.)

I AM MR GRAY DAVIS, GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. YOUR MAY NOT KNOW THIS BUT YOUR MANY MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A POWER SHORTAGE IN MY STATE, WHICH UNBEKNOWNST TO ME AT THE TIME RESULTED IN FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS USD ($15,000,000) BEING ADDED TO BANK ACCOUNTS TO WHICH MY AIDES HAVE ACCESS.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM. I AM NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THESE ACCOUNTS MYSELF. IN ORDER TO ESCAPE SUSPICION, THE MONEY WILL NEED TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO AN ACCOUNT TO WHICH I HAVE NO CONNECTION AND TO WHICH THE GOVERNMENT OF THE GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS NO CONNECTION. THIS WOULD BE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.

IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR SERVICES, WE HAVE AGREED TO OFFER YOU THIRTY PERCENT (25%) THE SUM. IN ADDITION TO THIS, FIVE PERCENT (5%) WILL BE KEPT FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT MIGHT COME UP.

(and so on. end satire.)
 
2003-04-22 11:09:26 PM
Just tryin' to get he last post in.

P.S. - France sucks it hard.
 
2003-04-22 11:09:59 PM
Why dont we just devalue everything to 0. That would solve the problem. Just live like the Indians before the white man came and ruined everything. When you need something, go get it. Think about itwhy would anyone steel if everything were free? Why would anyone take more than they needed if everything was free? All of the stuff that was put on this planet and is now made into other stuff is still just all made from the stuff that was here in the first place.

Money is the spawn of mans greed. We dont need it. The only occupations that would be negatively effected would be law and investment counseling. Everyone else can just keep doing what they doand give away their goods and services free. Period. Problem solved. On the entire planet!
 
2003-04-22 11:11:29 PM
Curse all of you pseudo-France haters. What about us?
 
2003-04-22 11:13:11 PM
I'm here all night. France sucks. Thank you!
 
2003-04-22 11:19:49 PM
Does three straight win anything?

Other than "Loser of the Day" award?
 
2003-04-22 11:29:43 PM
Anvil Will this help?

BTW I think everybody else left.
 
2003-04-22 11:48:39 PM
yep, no one here. empty room. lot's of trash everywhere. look's like it was one heck of a fight, though.

The looser went off that way alone; and the winner went off that way after the giant.
 
2003-04-23 12:24:20 AM
I'm getting ready to move to California. Nothing like moving from one craptastic tax state (Wisconsin) to another.

At least the tans are still free... for now.
 
2003-04-23 12:26:22 AM
AntiNorm: ROFLMAO!

Xlint.
 
2003-04-23 01:32:57 AM
What a bogus deficit. They could be in the black in 6 months, just by taxing all the nose candy they import.

Schmucks.
 
2003-04-23 02:44:35 AM
I better get my goddamn tax refund!
 
2003-04-23 04:09:35 AM
S5030
Or better yet, lets become a welfare state like a lot of the countries in continental Europe. That way we can become militarily insignificant and therefore just plain insignificant.


As a former Californian now living in Sweden, I think that would be absolutely brilliant! Would give me a great reason to return to the USA.
Europeans learned painfully over two ww's that the path of "military significance" ends in a horrible dead-end. Enjoy spending 30% of your taxes on your soldiers and guns, after all, clearly thats better than free healthcare, education, and social services.
I recently re-read The Fall of the Roman Empire, interesting to note that as the empire became more and more chaotic, enemies had to be found to send the army to fight so that the army would not turn inward and the citizens would be occupied with conquest. I hope the USA wakes up at some point and realizes the battlefields of the 21st century will be economic in nature, that the "barbarians at the gate" are not terrorists but the current-account deficit holders, globalization, China, India, Brazil, and a lifestyle that cannot be maintained.
 
2003-04-23 04:42:33 AM
Ironpoint
MorePeasPlease:

I don't understand what your saying. You want me to post simpler so you can understand it?

*****************

No, just learn a few basic rules of grammar.

YOU'RE = YOU ARE

Simple enough for you?

Prof
 
2003-04-23 04:47:02 AM
TearsInTheRain
S5030
Or better yet, lets become a welfare state like a lot of the countries in continental Europe. That way we can become militarily insignificant and therefore just plain insignificant.

As a former Californian now living in Sweden

SNIP*****************

How's the old sex-change surgery going?

Prof
 
2003-04-23 09:04:23 AM
"I'm totally good for it," That's totally funny.
 
2003-04-23 09:40:53 AM
Davis is described as being a "Blue Dog Democrat" Jjorsett, he calls himself a Democrat but holds a very republican position when it comes to politics. Ironic how the republicans are trying to get him impeached so that he can be replaced by.....

Davis has never been well liked by the Dems, but with Bush in power politics have become more partisan than ever. Bush the Uniter, Feh.
 
2003-04-23 09:47:06 AM
Jjorsett

Read Leperflesh's link to find out more about the seriously flawed republican proposal.

I can't believe you are defending Bill Simon, running a successfuly investment trust is still a euphemism for "living off family money." If he were a successful businessman he would not be trying politics, he was a sucky lawyer before becoming a sucky businessman and is now a sucky politician.

As far as the rest of the country goes, it's just a matter of time before the rest of the country realizes how retarded the republican agenda is.
 
2003-04-23 11:01:45 AM
"Enjoy spending 30% of your taxes on your soldiers and guns, after all, clearly thats better than free healthcare, education, and social services."

We spend about 4.2% of total GDP on the Military compared to 11% in the 1970's. Also, there is no such thing as free healthcare. If your not paying for it, some other poor sumbiatch is. My employer pays 100% of my premiums since I have no dependents. But indirectly the revenue that I help my employer create pays for the premiums.

BTW, you should research just how much of the technology and neat gadgets we have to make our lives better came directly from or as a by-product of the cold war.
 
2003-04-23 11:07:26 AM
Read Leperflesh's link to find out more about the seriously flawed republican proposal.


Ah yes, the California Budget Project. The "independent" analytical organization backed by every leftist foundation on the planet. Why am I not surprised that they find 'flaws' in budget cuts?

I can't believe you are defending Bill Simon, running a successfuly investment trust is still a euphemism for "living off family money." If he were a successful businessman he would not be trying politics, he was a sucky lawyer before becoming a sucky businessman and is now a sucky politician.

And I can't believe you think the present administration is a better choice than Simon. However bad Simon may be as a campaigner, at least he wouldn't be the perfect storm of incompetence and corruption that we've got now.

As far as the rest of the country goes, it's just a matter of time before the rest of the country realizes how retarded the republican agenda is.

Yeah, and the Iraqi people loved Saddam, as we'll find out any minute now. It's always amusing when leftists are mugged by reality.
 
2003-04-23 11:51:10 AM
To any California residents, please visit: recallgraydavis.com....sign a petition to boot his ass out of office.
 
2003-04-23 04:41:32 PM
JDJoeE -

Exactly. This state is drowning in public help projects for pregnant crack whores and illegal immigrants' English-as-a-second-language special education projects. Now the state legislature is proposing raising the highest personal income tax amount from 15% to 19-21%. Great, over 20% of my paycheck will be vaporized so I can subsidize welfare recipients, and the Federal Government hasn't even taken their share out yet. Unbelievable. And we keep electing tax-and-overspend liberals because they keep promising the unwashed masses free assistance. Except it's not free, it's MY MONEY that I EARNED. Oh well, I would have probably blown it on my retirement account or something foolish like that anyways.
 
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