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(fox chicago)   Two women to split $98K in reward money for helping police crack the Brown's Chicken massacre case. Actually, one tipped off police. The other one held back the names of the killers for nine years   (myfoxchicago.com) divider line 76
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2010-03-02 06:20:17 PM
I'm surprised they didn't try to charge the woman for waiting so long before telling about Degorski. What a stupid thing to keep secret.

The families of the victims had to wait 9 years to find out what happened.

Degorski and Luna should have met Ole Sparky.
 
2010-03-02 06:27:57 PM
If you're like me and wondering "Why the hell would they get $98,000 for telling on how killed "brown chickens".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Chicken_massacre (new window)

I don't doubt that I knew about this at the time, but my memory is fuzzy.
 
2010-03-02 06:56:07 PM
So you can withhold info on a murder until you need money?
 
2010-03-02 07:27:06 PM
why doesnt that knowledge make her an accomplice? Because she waited long enough? What a biatch.
 
2010-03-02 08:49:47 PM
I believe the question everyone wants answered - Is Brown's chicken better than KFC or Popeyes?
 
2010-03-02 09:08:32 PM
$98k will buy a lot of chickens and watermelon
 
2010-03-02 09:11:56 PM
suspect:

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2010-03-02 09:11:58 PM
Wow, lots of judgement already. Clearly you folks know everything about the woman's situation, including whether or not she felt safe and not likely to become a target for divulging that kind of info.

But do go on about your moral superiority.

/over the top?
 
2010-03-02 09:12:21 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: So you can withhold info on a murder until you need money?

For the most part, you don't have a duty to report crimes. There are some good reasons for that (and some not so good ones) but more or less it is how it is. Now had she been subpoenaed in court, yes she'd have had to testify. However there is likely no law compelling her to come forward and report about the crime if she doesn't want to.
 
2010-03-02 09:13:06 PM
And those women proceeded to tell the cops the story of the Brown's Chicken massacre with full orchestration and five part harmony and stuff like that and all the phenome... - and the police stopped them right there and said, "Ladies, did you ever go to court?"
 
2010-03-02 09:14:06 PM
residentgeek: Wow, lots of judgement already. Clearly you folks know everything about the woman's situation, including whether or not she felt safe and not likely to become a target for divulging that kind of info.

But do go on about your moral superiority.

/over the top?


You had me going. You shouldn't have folded your cards.
 
2010-03-02 09:14:20 PM
I_Am_Weasel: If you're like me and wondering "Why the hell would they get $98,000 for telling on how killed "brown chickens".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Chicken_massacre (new window)

I don't doubt that I knew about this at the time, but my memory is fuzzy.


From your link:

Palatine Police Department obtained a DNA sample from one suspect and matched it to a sample of saliva from a piece of partially-eaten chicken found in the garbage during the crime scene investigation



That is some impressive police work.
 
2010-03-02 09:14:54 PM
OMG popeye's massacres brown chickens every day!@
 
2010-03-02 09:17:35 PM
Acharne: I_Am_Weasel: If you're like me and wondering "Why the hell would they get $98,000 for telling on how killed "brown chickens".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown%27s_Chicken_massacre (new window)

I don't doubt that I knew about this at the time, but my memory is fuzzy.

From your link:

Palatine Police Department obtained a DNA sample from one suspect and matched it to a sample of saliva from a piece of partially-eaten chicken found in the garbage during the crime scene investigation


That is some impressive police work.


I was thinking that myself. That's the kind of stuff people usually call bullshiat on while watching an episode of CSI

/I suspect...fowl play.
//YEEEEAAAAHHH
 
2010-03-02 09:18:20 PM
They really hated those goddam chickens.
 
2010-03-02 09:18:40 PM
here's a better link to the story

Link (new window)

protip subtard, try finding articles with more than 4 sentences
 
2010-03-02 09:20:39 PM
I was living in Chicago at the time of this incident, and what I found most amusing is that when the news first broke, all of the news media called the place "Brown's Chicken". The actual name of the restaurant chain is "Brown's Chicken & Pasta", and about one day after the incident, all of the media with no exception would say the complete name "Brown's Chicken & Pasta".
It seemed as if Brown's PR department went out of their way to inform the media that they serve pasta in addition to chicken, and don't you forget it! As if they were using it as good publicity for the restaurants.
 
2010-03-02 09:21:30 PM
I grew up about 10-15 miles from where that happened (I was 3 in '93), and distinctly recall discussing it with my dad a few times in the late 90's, particularly when eating at Brown's. Every few months, a story would air on WGN about how the crime still isn't solved, or how there was a new lead or how Illinois forensics were farked up. They were big stories in Chicago. I still can't see one of those restaurants without thinking of that crime...

/and Subby, she was afraid for her life. She waited 9 years, but at least she finally came forward.
 
2010-03-02 09:22:42 PM
Rapmaster2000

I always manage to--I hate being insincere. I do sort of scoff at the early posters in the thread, but after I read what I had written, I realized how nasty it looked. I should learn not to pull my punches, or just speak in rational discourse. :)
 
2010-03-02 09:23:23 PM
Mmmmm I haven't had Brown's Chicken in years. Almost makes me want to make a visit to Chicago just to have some again.
 
2010-03-02 09:26:52 PM
Jakevol2: Mmmmm I haven't had Brown's Chicken in years. Almost makes me want to make a visit to Chicago just to have some again.

you better hurry up

Dec. 30, 2009

(Crain's) - Brown's Chicken & Pasta Inc. of Elmhurst has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
(new window)
 
2010-03-02 09:27:03 PM
yoyopro
Probably had more to do with another place called "brown's chicken" that threatened to sue. That's why killers are always identified by first, middle and last name. To prevent someone with the same first and last name from being targeted and opening up the news department to a lawsuit.
 
2010-03-02 09:27:04 PM
yoyopro: I was living in Chicago at the time of this incident, and what I found most amusing is that when the news first broke, all of the news media called the place "Brown's Chicken". The actual name of the restaurant chain is "Brown's Chicken & Pasta", and about one day after the incident, all of the media with no exception would say the complete name "Brown's Chicken & Pasta".
It seemed as if Brown's PR department went out of their way to inform the media that they serve pasta in addition to chicken, and don't you forget it! As if they were using it as good publicity for the restaurants.


As I remember, they didn't change the name from Brown's Chicken to Brown's Chicken & Pasta until some time after this incident.
 
2010-03-02 09:29:17 PM
newsisgoodfood
As I remember, they didn't change the name from Brown's Chicken to Brown's Chicken & Pasta until some time after this incident.

No, I am positive you are wrong, I remember it quite clearly.
 
2010-03-02 09:31:26 PM
calbert: Jakevol2: Mmmmm I haven't had Brown's Chicken in years. Almost makes me want to make a visit to Chicago just to have some again.

you better hurry up

Dec. 30, 2009

(Crain's) - Brown's Chicken & Pasta Inc. of Elmhurst has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection (new window)


calbert: Jakevol2: Mmmmm I haven't had Brown's Chicken in years. Almost makes me want to make a visit to Chicago just to have some again.

you better hurry up

Dec. 30, 2009

(Crain's) - Brown's Chicken & Pasta Inc. of Elmhurst has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection (new window)


well that sucks.
 
2010-03-02 09:33:05 PM
Airfoilsguy: $98k will buy a lot of tacos chicken and flaki watermelon.

ftfy
 
2010-03-02 09:33:27 PM
"I feared that revealing the bad guy's name could possibly endanger me or my children"

/so it's obvious I couldn't do that.

//what tha...*reward money*??? Here's his name, address and phone number and I think I still have his gun.
 
2010-03-02 09:34:18 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: So you can withhold info on a murder until you need money?

I know you are big and bad, have a membership to the gym and all. perhaps she was afraid. I mean, the guy was a killer. Or, perhaps she was pissed off after he broke up with her
 
2010-03-02 09:36:12 PM
In the Wikipedia article, the photo shows a restaurant with signage that reads "Brown's Chicken"...
 
2010-03-02 09:37:25 PM
residentgeek: Rapmaster2000

I always manage to--I hate being insincere. I do sort of scoff at the early posters in the thread, but after I read what I had written, I realized how nasty it looked. I should learn not to pull my punches, or just speak in rational discourse. :)


RATIONAL DISCOURSE, fark much?
 
2010-03-02 09:38:25 PM
Jungblood
In the Wikipedia article, the photo shows a restaurant with signage that reads "Brown's Chicken"...

That's what it was called for many years before they changed the name, it just took some time for all of the restaurants to change their signage.
 
2010-03-02 09:39:53 PM
General sir, I do see gleaming islands in the sea of poo. (Sometimes.)
 
2010-03-02 09:43:36 PM
Palatine Police Department obtained a DNA sample from one suspect and matched it to a sample of saliva from a piece of partially-eaten chicken found in the garbage during the crime scene investigation


And with that, police have implemented their newest tactic in encouraging the safe capture and conviction of wanted suspects:

lemurking.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-03-02 09:53:36 PM
So not only did they murder everyone they also took the time to eat some chicken? That's some grade-a sicko right there.
 
2010-03-02 10:08:16 PM
My favorite joke of all time ends with,
"No, I was playing with myself and I shot the cat."

If you know the joke you know why it's on this thread.
 
2010-03-02 10:11:26 PM
SuperDuper28: So not only did they murder everyone they also took the time to eat some chicken? That's some grade-a sicko right there.

Considering it was in the garbage, no... They ate, then killed.
 
2010-03-02 10:12:22 PM
RIP Tom Mennes my drinking and darts buddy.
 
2010-03-02 10:16:38 PM
yoyopro: Jungblood
In the Wikipedia article, the photo shows a restaurant with signage that reads "Brown's Chicken"...

That's what it was called for many years before they changed the name, it just took some time for all of the restaurants to change their signage.


From the Browns Chicken web site: It's been said the future is not ours to predict. After the horrific Palatine tragedy in January, 1993 Brown's experienced a 30-40% drop in business. Customers were fearful and stayed away from Brown's Chicken restaurants in droves. Banks were not kind to Brown's. They told Frank that there was no way Brown's could survive that horrible Palatine tragedy. Stores were closed because they couldn't get financing. Banks sold company real estate at auction. Competitors used aggressive, predatory discounting tactics because they knew Brown's Chicken was in trouble. To counter competition, a new lease on growth was found in the popularity of pasta. It was introduced in the stores with great success. Brown's Chicken soon became Brown's Chicken & Pasta. It was enough to put Brown's back on the map. Even Fortune magazine took note and wrote a complimentary article on Brown's remarkable comeback.
 
2010-03-02 10:24:18 PM
NightOwl2255~

Nice research. Thanks for tyeing it together.
 
2010-03-02 10:38:11 PM
Keep farking that chicken.
 
2010-03-02 10:50:19 PM
I'm just glad the thing got solved. That was farked up.

Just as farked up as the Burger Chef Murders in Speedway, IN. That's STILL unsolved since 1978. I was 13 and that's one reason I never worked in fast food.

Well, that, and one of my best friend's dad owned a McDonald's franchise and I knew what happened behind the scenes...

/pickle hockey anyone?
 
2010-03-02 10:52:43 PM
I grew up in Arlington Heights, the same town as the owners. They lived a few doors down from a high school friend of mine. I vividly recall this incident and the terror it caused around the NW Suburbs of Chicago.

Being in the restaurant business myself, I have heard many stories of robberies that have occurred at other restaurants when the employees are taking out trash for the night or when the managers are leaving.

We would require that employees at our restaurants left in pairs, always. Servers leave with cash tips and make good targets for desperate thieves.
 
2010-03-02 11:03:54 PM
What a crappy article. I was about to come here to complain they used the word "murders" for the killing of chickens, until I read more info here actually explaining the incident. The article gives no hint that humans were actually killed.
 
2010-03-02 11:07:45 PM
generaltimmy: I know you are big and bad, have a membership to the gym and all. perhaps she was afraid. I mean, the guy was a killer. Or, perhaps she was pissed off after he broke up with her

I don't think being afraid is a good enough excuse to allow someone to run around free when they could very well be doing the same thing to other people elsewhere.

Besides, it's not like she couldn't have sent an anonymous tip or something else that wouldn't implicate her... she went for the reward money.
 
2010-03-02 11:12:36 PM
I knew one of those guys, and the sister of one of the gals that finally came forward. When I heard their names on the radio a few years ago I almost fell over, but almost immediately thought, "yeah.. I can see it".

Strange that one of the responding officers had been the police consultant at the high school during the time the killers went there. Palatine isn't -that- small a town, but still.

Glad they got the little farkers.

/he was one of those jean-jacketed fellas that hung around and smoked a lot from what I remember. Burnouts. I might have even had lunch with him a few times, I don't know. I ran with a similar group of rejects for a while - ones even the burnouts avoided. Scary sorta guy, even then. hell.. especially then, I guess.

//yeah yeah, cool story bro.
 
2010-03-02 11:26:43 PM
Withholding information, isn't that obstruction of justice or something like that?
 
2010-03-02 11:28:34 PM
MiamiChef: I grew up in Arlington Heights, the same town as the owners. They lived a few doors down from a high school friend of mine. I vividly recall this incident and the terror it caused around the NW Suburbs of Chicago.

Being in the restaurant business myself, I have heard many stories of robberies that have occurred at other restaurants when the employees are taking out trash for the night or when the managers are leaving.

We would require that employees at our restaurants left in pairs, always. Servers leave with cash tips and make good targets for desperate thieves.


When I worked close at Domino's, our standing policy was to bag the trash and leave it by the back door at the end of the night. The morning crew (we opened at 11am) would take out the trash first thing. Of course, we closed at 1am, so...
 
2010-03-02 11:39:11 PM
Word on the street was that the Ehlenfeldt's (the owners) owed some money to connected people.

The kind of connected people who take not getting paid very seriously.

Just sayin.
 
2010-03-03 12:24:46 AM
BigChad: Word on the street was that the Ehlenfeldt's (the owners) owed some money to connected people.

The kind of connected people who take not getting paid very seriously.

Just sayin.
making shiat up.

Everyone knows that if you want someone whacked, you hire Palatine High School students, not Fremd students.
 
2010-03-03 12:34:27 AM
natural-selection-at-work: BigChad: Word on the street was that the Ehlenfeldt's (the owners) owed some money to connected people.

The kind of connected people who take not getting paid very seriously.

Just sayin. making shiat up.

Everyone knows that if you want someone whacked, you hire Palatine High School students, not Fremd students.


on the other hand, if you need a lawyer...
 
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