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(The Smoking Gun)   Obviously doing research, U. Penn Library Director has 2,000 illicit kiddie porn images on computer   ( divider line
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878 clicks; posted to Main » on 22 Apr 2003 at 12:47 PM (14 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2003-04-22 01:03:03 PM  
Glacius-Vector, you just made me choke on my burrito. Where's that quote from?
2003-04-22 01:03:18 PM  
2003-04-22 01:03:28 PM  
Thats why I only whack it to gramma porn. Nobody to dispute the age there... unless there is a progeria porn site.
2003-04-22 01:03:39 PM  
Okay, I don't get it...
Why kiddie p0rn?

Seriously, it's pretty disturbing how big a problem this is becoming, and how many more people have been drawn into it, with the easy access that Kazaa, etc., now provides.

Time to make some serious advances in psychological treatment, and more importantly, in encouraging healthy psych. development. It's really pretty sad how many people have been allowed to "slip through the cracks" (some economically, others socially).

[Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not defending the people who MAKE the stuff, but the people who consume their products are obviously very sick indidviduals who need serious help. I still feel ALL of them are responsible and accountable for their choices, too, though.]
2003-04-22 01:04:30 PM  
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2003-04-22 01:04:32 PM  
04-22-03 12:53:07 PM Louiedog
Hey, this is my school! This was in our paper a few days ago but I didn't read the article.

I didn't read The Daily Pennsylvanian when I was there either...only picked it up for Bloom County and Calvin and Hobbes

Albo: XPN kicked ass when I was there...
2003-04-22 01:04:55 PM  
Gladius-Vectors quote comes from a song by 'The Bloodhound Gang' off the album 'Hooray For Boobies' :) find it, hear it, enjoy.
2003-04-22 01:06:18 PM  
Is it just me or should we be focusing on the people putting these pictures on the net, rather than the people downloading it. Obviously, both are criminals.

Yeah, as always (just like drugs), easier and less dangerous to go after the low-level distributors and consumers than the major producers. Plus it ensures job security.
2003-04-22 01:06:39 PM  
I mean seriously, look at the authority figures in your life. What could be going in in their private lives? You never know. I mean, it's hot when I think about one of my attractive female professors looking at (legit) porn or something like that, but it's scary when I think about the private life of one of my other professors.

Okay, now I got the jibblies. The...jibbly jibblies.
2003-04-22 01:06:53 PM  
"A Lapdance is so Much Better When the Stripper Is Crying"
2003-04-22 01:07:29 PM  
Any notice, he was a "tenured professor in Stanford University's Religious Studies Department". Hmm, religion and kiddie porn go hand-in-hand this days!
2003-04-22 01:09:16 PM  
I'm convinced that Fark keeps putting T.A.T.U. links up on the off chance that someone will get fired for this very same reason.

/conspiracy theory
2003-04-22 01:09:24 PM  
He's in deep doodoo now. Wonder if they took away his parking space?
2003-04-22 01:09:32 PM  
How can they bust him when the FEDS have the biggest collection of porn ever?
2003-04-22 01:09:57 PM  
Maybe these were pictures of consenting 18 year old adults. They only look 5.
2003-04-22 01:10:03 PM  
"The Bloodhound Gang"? I thought that was the name of the 7 minute segment at the end of the old 3-2-1-Contact shows on PBS back in the 80's. That's the show with the Dude with the afro, the girl with the big teeth, and the annoying kid who went around solving crimes. Man, I'd love to watch one of those episodes again.
2003-04-22 01:10:30 PM  

The FEDS are just doing RESEARCH.
2003-04-22 01:10:35 PM  
Gelatinous, the guy is obviously very old and when he was still doing most of his developing psychodynamic theory was about the extent of therapy he would have gotten. Obviously this guy hasn't been caught over and over again and continues to be released to download his kiddie porn. He's just being caught now. I'm not exactly sure when you think he should have gotten help for this. To him it's perfectly natural, he sees it the same as a man loving a woman of the same age. Today, here at the University of Pennsylvania, I had my abnormal psych class and we went over the sexual disorders like pedophelia. My professor, who has treated a number of these people, says they don't understand why it's a problem and it's not the same as making a choice of committing other crimes.

That being said, he does need help and I hope he gets it. I'm just glad it didn't manifest as a behavior that involved kids directly.
2003-04-22 01:10:43 PM  
"American Beauty" is another movie that is questionable ... I know the actresses who showed their boobs are eighteen or over, but in the movie they play minors.
2003-04-22 01:10:57 PM  
Uhhh those pics are just records. The university is accepting alarmingly young students these days.

/yeah right
2003-04-22 01:11:25 PM  
2003-04-22 01:11:27 PM  
In the top pic, this guy looks like C. Everett Koop.

In the bottom pic, he looks like an older version of my high school mechanical drawing teacher (who was a very creepy guy in his own right; obsessive compulsive and he smelled terrible). Makes ya wonder.........
2003-04-22 01:12:10 PM  

Better lock up those Academy judges for awarding a film obviously condoning pedophilia!

2003-04-22 01:12:12 PM  
Hurrah for the Red and the Blue!
2003-04-22 01:12:55 PM  
What about that movie with Brooke Shields when she was like 10 playing a prostitute. That's probably the closest to kiddie porn hollywood has ever gotten. What do people think about that?
2003-04-22 01:13:29 PM  
Or can I just assume that all Farkers at work right now just automatically click on the Boobies links, and hope that the IT guys aren't logging anything

I click on the boobies links, but the IT guys get turned on when they know I've been looking at them so they leave me alone.
2003-04-22 01:14:46 PM  
Why didn't anyone post a link when we became the Ivy Leage football and basketball champions? :)
2003-04-22 01:14:50 PM  
I see the old hate what you don't understand reaction is still dominating. Obviously there are a lot of people downloading this stuff, its only the stupid ones that do it at work or use their credit cards that get caught. Why don't we ever hear about people who are putting this shiat on the internet getting busted rather than the poor bastards who are being ruined because they clicked on a few links.
2003-04-22 01:14:59 PM  
LouieDog: The movie you're referring to is "Pretty Baby."
2003-04-22 01:15:47 PM  
At this rate, in about a decade, we can have a whole pedophile reunion tour. Musicalperformances by Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, Pete Townsend, plus screenings of the best of Polanski's films... It can be sponsored by the U Penn library society.

Heck, maybe they can even get a Boston Priest to do an opening prayer...
2003-04-22 01:16:06 PM  
Okay, this is a little off topic, but does anyone remember a TV show on Saturday mornings where a boy and a girl got trapped underground under a big tree in their yard? It was an ongoing mystery show that ran all summer, I think. Does anyone else remember that?
2003-04-22 01:16:20 PM  
The eyes. You can always tell by the eyes.

/dabney coleman
2003-04-22 01:16:34 PM  
Investigators say the subject of most of the illicit material was twin actresses who have not yet been named, and a little know Russian children's group named "Tattoo." Investigators went on to say that the source of most of these images appears to be an underground pornography website called The Phark, after the well-known hacker magazine Phrack. The FBI has already seized the ISP records of this website and is currently planning to arrest as many of the readers as can be located. "If we act fast, we might be able to bring this whole sick group to justice" said one agent.
2003-04-22 01:17:10 PM  
"maybe they can even get a Boston Priest to do an opening prayer..."

is that something like:

"Dear child, this opening will hurt"?
2003-04-22 01:18:55 PM  
Nice to see all the Pete Townshend references. Just when I'm not quite sure what the ignoramus quotient is on Fark, a thread comes along like this one to remind me.
2003-04-22 01:19:23 PM  
In the black and white picture, the guy looks like the scientist who built "Jurassic Park". Not so much in the Mugshot.
2003-04-22 01:19:29 PM  

No arguments with anything you said. The availability of treatment is better now then it was, and it clearly still fails to help a lot of people (which is why I said we need advancements; just giving this guy drugs or psychitherapy sessions isn't going to do much). All I was saying was that either 1. somewhere in his social development, or 2. somewhere in the development of his neural anatomy, something went wrong, and it's too bad that this escapes the attention of society until it's too late.

Also, even though they don't see it as a crime, they still know the law, and they know they will be held accountable -- that's all I meant regarding the legal aspect.

And amen to your last statement.
2003-04-22 01:19:34 PM  
Best.Name.Ever, I think maybe your Mom was slipping acid into your juice to keep you occupied by the television all summer so she could drink wine all day or something.
2003-04-22 01:20:02 PM  
Jayladdin , why? Should we presume he is innocent, and really was doing "research"?

Sorry. I didn't mean to hurt his feelings.
2003-04-22 01:20:29 PM  
Gelatinous, then we are in agreement. Wanna grab a beer after work/class?
2003-04-22 01:21:37 PM  
why has my typing degraded so much?
2003-04-22 01:22:12 PM  
Eh, I wish I had a job!
2003-04-22 01:22:28 PM  
Actually, were they underage girls or boys? I'm not sure which makes him a bigger perv.

As for the "virtual child porn" law overturned - it went like this: you can't have a character under the age of 18 in a movie get naked - even if the actor/actress is over 18. In the redux of Lolita a few years back, the character was 14, the actress was 16, and the body double for the nude scenes was 18. However, due to the new virtual child porn laws, the scenes of the nude 18 year old actress were cut when it debuted on Showtime (since no move dist. wanted to carry it).

However, it got overturned by the Supreme Court for various reasons, not the least of which is it made the movie versions of Romeo & Juliet illegal, which was a bit much.
2003-04-22 01:22:48 PM  
"Investigators say the subject of most of the illicit material was twin actresses who have not yet been named, and a little know Russian children's group named "Tattoo." Investigators went on to say that the source of most of these images appears to be an underground pornography website called The Phark, after the well-known hacker magazine Phrack. The FBI has already seized the ISP records of this website and is currently planning to arrest as many of the readers as can be located. "If we act fast, we might be able to bring this whole sick group to justice" said one agent."

Also found in the investigation was a twisted compliation of images depicting a kitten, a mon calamari and a obese man covered mustard having there way with a 15 year old stoned MAC user. The creator of this gallery of smut a one Arkay Boi is in custody.
2003-04-22 01:22:56 PM  
I wish you did too, I was expecting you to buy.
2003-04-22 01:24:17 PM  
This guy used to be my department head's boss. He was one of the few people in the Penn library system that had an executive assistant type to deflect matters that weren't important enough for him to handle directly.

Oh...and Louiedog: Ivy League sports championships aren't nearly as farkworthy as, say, Cornell Daily Sun editorials.
2003-04-22 01:25:19 PM  
No, no. I distinctly remember it. It was a part of "ABC's Saturday Morning Mystery" series or something. This girl and her brother were exploring a passage under their house when they got trapped beneath the roots of this big tree. It took several months to resolve the series. I was back in the early 80's, I think. I've searched the web, but I can't find any reference to it. I know it must exist somewhere.
2003-04-22 01:25:49 PM  
Rayonic - You're right. Many people involved with American Beauty could have been prosecuted had law enforcement chose to do so. The two points with the movie were 20 year old Mena Suvari was playing an underage girl who was seduced by an older man and 17 year old Thora Birch shows her breasts. Thora's parents were on the set for the shot, "just in case".
2003-04-22 01:25:55 PM  
Dancingshoes and Enave , LMFAO. I guess it's time to change addresses... AGAIN.
2003-04-22 01:27:50 PM  
Errrm, is there such a thing as licit kiddie porn? Or does the headline contain a tautologous redundancy?
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