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2010-02-27 01:15:10 PM  
FTA: "The lawsuit filed on behalf of the Paramount Realty Group of America Corp. claims the couple rented the apartment out for about $300,000, then failed to make promised renovations on time."

This is where the story gets fishy; no one from Iceland has $300,000.
 
2010-02-27 01:26:26 PM  
If the contract called for them to renovate, with no specifications for the renovations, it was a bad contract and they're screwed.
 
2010-02-27 01:43:04 PM  
Done correctly there is nothing wrong with an IKEA kitchen.

Admittedly I don't think one would really work at the GPH.
 
2010-02-27 01:56:17 PM  

T.M.S.: Done correctly there is nothing wrong with an IKEA kitchen.

Admittedly I don't think one would really work at the GPH.


I dunno, if I was paying 300,000 big ones to live somewhere and it was renovated with Pikea, I'd be pretty pissed. (Please note that the vast majority of my current apartment is Pikea...

I don't see an issue with the lawsuit here. THey can each argue their case and the judge can decide what's fair. Personally, I think some type of arbitration would have done the job just as well, but a lawsuit would make it legally binding, at least.

I think the case might actually come out against the Icelandic folk because the residents have reasonable cause to assume that the renovations would be along the same quality standards as the rest of the apartment.
 
2010-02-27 02:07:09 PM  

DomColosi: T.M.S.: Done correctly there is nothing wrong with an IKEA kitchen.

Admittedly I don't think one would really work at the GPH.

I dunno, if I was paying 300,000 big ones to live somewhere and it was renovated with Pikea, I'd be pretty pissed. (Please note that the vast majority of my current apartment is Pikea...

I don't see an issue with the lawsuit here. THey can each argue their case and the judge can decide what's fair. Personally, I think some type of arbitration would have done the job just as well, but a lawsuit would make it legally binding, at least.

I think the case might actually come out against the Icelandic folk because the residents have reasonable cause to assume that the renovations would be along the same quality standards as the rest of the apartment.


What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?

If it's a month I can see the complaint. If it's a year I'm not impressed. IKEA is fine.

Sort of moot anyway as this is not a residency hotel. Plus it's so specific in it's design that IKEA would be pointless.
 
2010-02-27 02:48:29 PM  
There was a point in my life where virtually everything in my home came from Ikea. Everything. Flatware, dishes, shelves, furniture, plants. Everything. I think I still have some flatware and a few shelves left, but that's about it. Ikea is a fantastic place for people just getting started. Its cheap furniture manages to be cheap without really looking all that cheap (although there are notable exceptions to this), and it's (in general) sturdy and reliable until you move, at which point it self-destructs. Which is to say, it doesn't belong in a high-end apartment. But hey, read your contract.
 
2010-02-27 03:06:10 PM  
Having been around the cabinet business since 1976, I can say IKEA is on a par with most of the stuff that goes into a 300k house. Europeans have been using the technology of knockdown particle board furniture for 40+ years and it is pretty much the standard in all European construction, commercial and residential. I imagine a great deal of the construction in NYC uses it. It was originally developed because of limited resources for solid wood construction, including plywood. I doubt the hotel will accomplish anything except making a few lawyers richer.
 
2010-02-27 03:08:02 PM  
Oh, and ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
 
2010-02-27 03:17:31 PM  

oldernell: Oh, and ugly is in the eye of the beholder.


That's the problem, we want your ugly out of our eyes.
 
2010-02-27 03:19:39 PM  
beware the ikea delivery guy

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2010-02-27 03:20:19 PM  

T.M.S.: DomColosi: T.M.S.: Done correctly there is nothing wrong with an IKEA kitchen.

Admittedly I don't think one would really work at the GPH.

I dunno, if I was paying 300,000 big ones to live somewhere and it was renovated with Pikea, I'd be pretty pissed. (Please note that the vast majority of my current apartment is Pikea...

I don't see an issue with the lawsuit here. THey can each argue their case and the judge can decide what's fair. Personally, I think some type of arbitration would have done the job just as well, but a lawsuit would make it legally binding, at least.

I think the case might actually come out against the Icelandic folk because the residents have reasonable cause to assume that the renovations would be along the same quality standards as the rest of the apartment.

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?

If it's a month I can see the complaint. If it's a year I'm not impressed. IKEA is fine.

Sort of moot anyway as this is not a residency hotel. Plus it's so specific in it's design that IKEA would be pointless.


Here is an article saying the rent was 26k/month. But at least they got free wings tossed at 'em:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/iceland_most_glamorous_couple_sued_​P3TzrYeCR x PDa7ioiIAhkJ
 
2010-02-27 03:20:35 PM  
Johannesson? jesus, please put more farking letters in your name
 
2010-02-27 03:24:53 PM  
What Ikea cup holders may look like.

img46.imageshack.us

/have them for my dog leashes, $1.99 each
 
2010-02-27 03:25:15 PM  
THIS is why I hate fark more and more everyday. Yeah, I know if I don't like it, don't visit it and I'm close to that but the rest of the internet sucks even more.

Headline has little to do with actual story - welcome to fark.

Having said that I do really like IKEA and wish there was one in my state. I have a few things from IKEA which I had to spend 15 minutes putting togetherbut they're very nice and have stood the test of time unlike a lot of shiat that I have bought elsewehere.

My cat eats and drinks out of dishes I bought for 35 cents a piece from IKEA. Farking THIRTYFIVE CENTS!

FFS the bowls I got from PetSmarts (which PetCO informs me is a "discount" store cost me about 4 times that.

And their Meatballs are Swedish - a little too salty for my taste but at least they don't have any chocolate in them.

/too drunk to fix the typos so you can kiss my ass if you don't like them.
 
2010-02-27 03:25:36 PM  
I stayed at that hotel when my aunt got married. It is pretty fancy. After the reception, we all went back to the hotel; specifically, the lounge. Billy Idol came in, saw us in all our wedding finery, and proceeded to give my aunt and uncle an impromptu a cappella version of 'White Wedding'.
 
2010-02-27 03:29:01 PM  

CitizenTed: This is where the story gets fishy; no one from Iceland has $300,000.


All of Iceland doesn't have $300,000. The country declared bankruptcy.
 
2010-02-27 03:31:35 PM  

siyuntz: I stayed at that hotel when my aunt got married. It is pretty fancy. After the reception, we all went back to the hotel; specifically, the lounge. Billy Idol came in, saw us in all our wedding finery, and proceeded to give my aunt and uncle an impromptu a cappella version of 'White Wedding'.


I saw Billy Idol kick a girl in the tits because she asked for an autograph.
It's a nice day for a kick in the tits.
 
2010-02-27 03:31:58 PM  

mud_shark: Headline has little to do with actual story - welcome to fark.


So the article about being sued over an IKEA kitchen has nothing to due with the headline about being sued over an IKEA kitchen?
 
2010-02-27 03:32:20 PM  

siyuntz: I stayed at that hotel when my aunt got married. It is pretty fancy. After the reception, we all went back to the hotel; specifically, the lounge. Billy Idol came in, saw us in all our wedding finery, and proceeded to give my aunt and uncle an impromptu a cappella version of 'White Wedding'.


i729.photobucket.com
 
2010-02-27 03:32:57 PM  

mud_shark: /too drunk to fix the typos so you can kiss my ass if you don't like them.


Here's to you drunk internet guy. Your pointless rants bring joy to millions.

laidofflawyer.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-02-27 03:33:16 PM  

mud_shark: Headline has little to do with actual story - welcome to fark.


Headline: Remodel your apartment kitchen with stuff you bought at IKEA? That's a lawsuitin'

FTFA: A wealthy Icelandic couple is being sued for installing a cheap IKEA kitchen into an apartment they rented out at a swank hotel in New York City.

Sounds pretty goddamned accurate to me.
 
2010-02-27 03:35:31 PM  
It's a true story. This was back in '93. It's my token "I met a famous person" story. I figure most people have at least one.
 
2010-02-27 03:36:21 PM  
I am Jack's tacky interior design
 
2010-02-27 03:38:06 PM  
the first rule of project meyhem is you do not discuss project meyhem.
 
2010-02-27 03:38:18 PM  

T.M.S.:

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?


I would like to know which place that rents for normal living (not the penthouse at some fancy hotel) rents for $300K a month.

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.
 
2010-02-27 03:38:56 PM  
also
 
2010-02-27 03:40:24 PM  
www.charliestudio.com
 
2010-02-27 03:41:04 PM  

gund: T.M.S.:

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?


I would like to know which place that rents for normal living (not the penthouse at some fancy hotel) rents for $300K a month.

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.


I'll rent you my apt. for 300k USD a month. I'll throw in utilities (heat, gas, cable, phone, water, waste removal) with the rent. If you want you can have it furnished too.
 
2010-02-27 03:41:44 PM  

gund: T.M.S.:

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?


I would like to know which place that rents for normal living (not the penthouse at some fancy hotel) rents for $300K a month.

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.


hey.. if someone wants to pay 300K USD a month, I got a place they can rent!
 
2010-02-27 03:42:26 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: gund: T.M.S.:

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?


I would like to know which place that rents for normal living (not the penthouse at some fancy hotel) rents for $300K a month.

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.

I'll rent you my apt. for 300k USD a month. I'll throw in utilities (heat, gas, cable, phone, water, waste removal) with the rent. If you want you can have it furnished too.


beat me by 40 seconds...
 
2010-02-27 03:43:18 PM  

gund: T.M.S.:

What I don't get is $300K a what? A month? A year?


I would like to know which place that rents for normal living (not the penthouse at some fancy hotel) rents for $300K a month.

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.


I'm sure it's out there but not in this hotel.

I simply did not understand what "renting out for around $300K" meant. Now knowing the $26K a month figure Gunderson provided it makes a bit of sense.

What doesn't make sense is renovating a kitchen in a rental. Especially one as heavily designed as this one.
 
2010-02-27 03:43:32 PM  
Guy #1: Hey, we've got our apartment. We ripped up the floors, pipes, wiring, and having everything completely redone.

Guy #2: You're renting, right?

Guy #1: Yeah.

thumbnails.hulu.com

BAD IDEA.
 
2010-02-27 03:49:25 PM  
Believe me when I tell you that this guy deserves to get his ass sued to hell and back for a lot more serious crap than some poor taste. He is one of the handful of people that farked the country long and hard with no lube.

Although it should be noted that Iceland is not bankrupt, nor did it declare bankruptcy. For some reason that just makes a more awesome headline and thus gets erroniously reported over and over.
 
2010-02-27 03:59:37 PM  

s1ugg0: mud_shark: /too drunk to fix the typos so you can kiss my ass if you don't like them.

Here's to you drunk internet guy. Your pointless rants bring joy to millions.


Why thank you may I have another?

My short term memory is fading fast thanks the effects of both licit and illicit drugs but address another poster's point they're not being sued because they chose IKEA. I already forgot most fo what I read in the article but wasn't the point that they put in cheap crap after they agreed to renovate it in a manner suitable for thep pirce being asked?

Despite what all the haters say IKEA products are a good value. If I were pointlessly rich I would buy an $8000 dining room table but since I'm not I'm happy with the one I got from IKEA (including chairs) for $420.
 
2010-02-27 04:01:07 PM  
True story
I was renting a house some years back and the landlord had let the entire yard go. The grass had all died and there was nothing but dirt. I went and got a bunch of compost and a tiller and went to town on the yard. I planted grass, pulled up the old dead bushes and replanted etc. Within a month the yard was beautiful. The land lord got mad and claimed he didn't want to do the upkeep on the yard after I left. I was paying the water bill so there was no real cost to him. I told him he could just let it go after I moved out. I moved out a couple of years later and within weeks I got a letter saying he was going to sue me for some bullshiat about altering the property without permission. I told him to go ahead because it would cost him more to sue me than he would get because my GF at the time was an attorney and would pretty much tie it up in court until he was broke and it wouldn't cost me a penny.

I just realized this story has no point but it took so long to type I am going to post it anyway.

/really slow typist
 
2010-02-27 04:02:04 PM  
The guy in the comments named toldyouso21 is pure win he's a mix of White Knight,Troll and Travel Channel host all rolled into one.
 
2010-02-27 04:02:24 PM  

gund: T.M.S.:

Though I know the stupidity of humans, I'm going out on a limb and betting there's no place on earth right now, where you can rent an apartment for $300K USD or more per month.


Not an apartment, but there is a bonus slideshow (new window), and yes, you have underestimated the stupidity of humans. Don't worry though, it's almost impossible to overestimate human idiocy!
 
2010-02-27 04:08:13 PM  

titwrench: True story
I was renting a house some years back and the landlord had let the entire yard go. The grass had all died and there was nothing but dirt. I went and got a bunch of compost and a tiller and went to town on the yard. I planted grass, pulled up the old dead bushes and replanted etc. Within a month the yard was beautiful.


If you're ever looking to rent in Austin I've got a rental with a crappy yard you can fix. As a bonus I installed Ikea laminate flooring ($1.20/sq ft) after the last tenant screwed up the new carpet.
 
2010-02-27 04:12:01 PM  
renters shouldn't renovate
 
2010-02-27 04:13:52 PM  
an apartment they rented out at a swank hotel in New York City.

Um...so was it a hotel or an appartment?

/I just bought a condo at this nice hotel, but the apartment is a bit too small.
 
2010-02-27 04:13:57 PM  
It makes me sad when I go to Ikea and aspire to have enough money to get more stuff from them. Ikea is our "nice" furniture, everything else is from Value Village or Craigslist...

/bling bling!
 
2010-02-27 04:14:40 PM  

AnyName: titwrench: True story
I was renting a house some years back and the landlord had let the entire yard go. The grass had all died and there was nothing but dirt. I went and got a bunch of compost and a tiller and went to town on the yard. I planted grass, pulled up the old dead bushes and replanted etc. Within a month the yard was beautiful.

If you're ever looking to rent in Austin I've got a rental with a crappy yard you can fix. As a bonus I installed Ikea laminate flooring ($1.20/sq ft) after the last tenant screwed up the new carpet.


If I was ever going to move out of San Diego I would. Austin is the only other place I could live. To me it is basically San Diego without the beach, people wise anyway.
 
2010-02-27 04:17:00 PM  

oldernell: Having been around the cabinet business since 1976, I can say IKEA is on a par with most of the stuff that goes into a 300k house. Europeans have been using the technology of knockdown particle board furniture for 40+ years and it is pretty much the standard in all European construction, commercial and residential. I imagine a great deal of the construction in NYC uses it. It was originally developed because of limited resources for solid wood construction, including plywood. I doubt the hotel will accomplish anything except making a few lawyers richer.


nothing against ikea, but i'm not the only unemployed cabinetmaker out there. you can get some pretty decent custom work done these days for a lot less than you used to.
 
2010-02-27 04:17:23 PM  
Just to put NYC in perspective, here is a handy PDF link that shows average apartment price for manhattan.

http://www.millersamuel.com/reports/pdf-reports/MRMO4Q09.pdf
(alot of good data in link)

The average luxury apartment rents for approximately $60 sq ft./ per month.

My coworker's friend was just about to sign a lease for a 300 sq ft shoebox apartment for about $3500/month until the landlord wanted 6 months security. He wisely thought better of it.
 
2010-02-27 04:19:32 PM  

Barakku: an apartment they rented out at a swank hotel in New York City.

Um...so was it a hotel or an appartment?

/I just bought a condo at this nice hotel, but the apartment is a bit too small.


From they way I read the article, a real estate agency bought the apartment from the hotel, and was subleasing it to the defendants.
 
2010-02-27 04:21:55 PM  
I love Ikea.

I can afford stuff from a more expensive place. I saved so much money shopping at Ikea over the years, that now I can afford stuff from a more expensive place. But I'm going to keep shopping at Ikea, and soon I'll be able to afford even more expensive stuff.

www.apartmenttherapy.com
 
2010-02-27 04:23:03 PM  

oldernell: Oh, and ugly is in the eye of the beholder.


not necessarily:
www.popartpete.com
 
2010-02-27 04:24:31 PM  

NeoKhan: renters shouldn't renovate


Unless their contract stipulates they will. I got my rent discounted for 6 months for running a bunch of cable for an old landlord. Another landlord bought all the supplies, and gave myself and my roommates free rent in exchange for doing things like replacing sinks, floors, painting, etc. (He was planning to sell the property once we moved out.)

So no, renters should renovate if they agree to terms with their landlord that both sides are happy with.
 
2010-02-27 04:26:09 PM  
www.fr3nd.net

I rented an apartment once with a kitchen that was just a triangle in the corner of the living room, maybe 5'x5' sides. The fridge was on the living room carpet.

Anyhow, IKEA was a freaking godsend (magnetic knife rack, metal rack to hang pots from and room to stack stuff on top, shelving to put the microwave in the closet, collapsible dish rack...)

I will love them forever, and my roommate, for somehow making that place incredibly easy to cook in. Although I still had to buy smaller baking sheets to fit in the tiny oven and you could only really fit 2 pots on the stove, unless they were all really small.

/thanks, affordable Swedish crap!
//DRTFA
 
2010-02-27 04:35:08 PM  

oldernell: Having been around the cabinet business since 1976, I can say IKEA is on a par with most of the stuff that goes into a 300k house. Europeans have been using the technology of knockdown particle board furniture for 40+ years and it is pretty much the standard in all European construction, commercial and residential. I imagine a great deal of the construction in NYC uses it. It was originally developed because of limited resources for solid wood construction, including plywood. I doubt the hotel will accomplish anything except making a few lawyers richer.


Dude, you've been around some shiatty 300k houses. You get good, solid wood custom cabinets in a 200k house around here.
 
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