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(Telegraph)   Gordon Brown insists Britain not involved in torture, conveniently forgetting the cuisine   (telegraph.co.uk ) divider line
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2010-02-26 09:52:49 PM  
Amen to that! Spotted Dick FTW!!
 
2010-02-26 10:39:45 PM  
English food is great if you stick to the Indian food.
 
2010-02-26 10:55:01 PM  
Nabb1: English food is great if you stick to the Indian food.

modculture.typepad.com
 
2010-02-26 11:02:33 PM  
Nice headline, subby!
 
2010-02-26 11:32:28 PM  
Has Gordon never watched his own show?
 
2010-02-27 07:05:22 AM  
I haven't watched it. Don't plan to. He's got a punchin' face.
 
2010-02-27 07:08:36 AM  
Not good, Submitter. Haggis is Scottish and is the only food that should be banned internationally by treat.
 
2010-02-27 07:10:54 AM  
"You don't boil pizza!"


/watching Gordon Ramsay Kitchen Nightmares UK as we speak, so getting a kick....
 
2010-02-27 07:21:46 AM  
+1 subby
 
2010-02-27 07:25:15 AM  
www.ivebeenthere.co.uk

What British cuisine might look like.

And don't you forget it, you bloody yanks.
 
2010-02-27 07:25:54 AM  
Any torture our govt was involved in is because we came to America's side.
It would be nice if we saw a little gratitude for our soldiers dying in Afghanistan in the form of Brits not getting framed on death row in Texas or even a little moral support on the Falklands.
/Fat chance.
 
2010-02-27 07:26:35 AM  
I love a lot of Brit food:

- Roast Beef with gravy, mustard and horseradish
- Welsh lamb with mint sauce
- Roast pork with crackling
- Sausages and mashed potatoes, smothered with onion gravy

For those who like basic meat and potatoes (or fish and chips), the Brits do it well. They also love the other "parts" - kidney pie, liver and onions, etc.

For those who love a good breakfast, you can't do much worse than eggs, giant bacon, grilled mushrooms, sausages, tomatoes, potatoes, etc.

The beers can be fantastic and can be woven into any dish.

The prob with Brit food is the marketing and crappy delivery. And that they boil the crap out of every veggie. The English pea is a beautiful thing, so are other greens.
 
2010-02-27 07:31:52 AM  
Yeah, Britain isn't so much involved in torture, it just likes to watch other people do it on their behalf.

Farking arseholes.
 
2010-02-27 07:36:03 AM  
Torture. TODAY.

Tell me, how does it feel, living in The Dark Times? I mean, we could go back and ask people in the days of McCarthy what it was like... but there's always YOU.

It's 2010. Your government tortures people. It admits it. The mass populace knows this. How does it feel?
 
2010-02-27 07:39:24 AM  
epoc_tnac: Yeah, Britain isn't so much involved in torture, it just likes to watch other people do it on their behalf.

It's on America's behalf, not ours.
 
2010-02-27 07:41:20 AM  
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"NO-ONE EXPECTS..."
 
2010-02-27 07:50:03 AM  
Teeth.
 
2010-02-27 08:06:06 AM  
Brown, you say?
I've got your BROWN right here!

Brown 25 (new window-not safe for work / breakfast!)
 
2010-02-27 08:24:04 AM  
Nobody should believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth.

And our food's getting better - flavour is finally more important than convenience to a lot of people.
 
2010-02-27 08:38:44 AM  

punistation: Torture. TODAY.

Tell me, how does it feel, living in The Dark Times? I mean, we could go back and ask people in the days of McCarthy what it was like... but there's always YOU.

It's 2010. Your government tortures people. It admits it. The mass populace knows this. How does it feel?


Well I read the whole article and I don't see anything that "torture" occurred.


Where did you see it?


You seem quite outraged, so I must have missed it the part that got you so upset. Can you point it out for me?

What the heck was the reference to McCarthy about as well?
 
2010-02-27 08:41:34 AM  
Ha! I read that headline three times before I got the joke. I think it's funnier to me than it would have been if I'd gotten it the first time because now I'm laughing at the headline and my own denseness.
 
2010-02-27 08:53:35 AM  
Love how this thread has ignored the "torture" issue and has turned into a discussion of delicious British food. Mmm... roast everything.
 
2010-02-27 08:54:07 AM  
as someone who is Leeds on business /getting a kick
 
2010-02-27 09:00:51 AM  
Blancmange!


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-02-27 09:19:23 AM  

punistation: Torture. TODAY.

Tell me, how does it feel, living in The Dark Times? I mean, we could go back and ask people in the days of McCarthy what it was like... but there's always YOU.

It's 2010. Your government tortures people. It admits it. The mass populace knows this. How does it feel?


I feel a smug sense of validation, knowing that my general pessimism about humanity has once again been supported by the evidence.
 
2010-02-27 09:36:06 AM  
I'll gladly argue it with a Frenchman, but being lectured by Americans about cuisine is a step over the parody horizon.
 
2010-02-27 09:42:34 AM  

farkeruk: being lectured by Americans about cuisine is a step over the parody horizon.


Why? We have a vast variety of food genres here. It is a veritable melting pot of culinary ideas and a huge culture of foodies that support it.

There are 300 million people here, some of us know how to eat.
 
2010-02-27 10:05:10 AM  
give them Fish and Chips

they will tell you all, to not get anymore

Its as bad a Americans using very loud rock and roll
 
2010-02-27 10:07:43 AM  
Why? We have a vast variety of food genres here. It is a veritable melting pot of culinary ideas and a huge culture of foodies that support it.

"variety of food genres" ≠ covered in frickin' cheese!
 
2010-02-27 10:36:45 AM  

joninaz: I love a lot of Brit food:

- Roast Beef with gravy, mustard and horseradish
- Welsh lamb with mint sauce
- Roast pork with crackling
- Sausages and mashed potatoes, smothered with onion gravy

For those who like basic meat and potatoes (or fish and chips), the Brits do it well. They also love the other "parts" - kidney pie, liver and onions, etc.

For those who love a good breakfast, you can't do much worse than eggs, giant bacon, grilled mushrooms, sausages, tomatoes, potatoes, etc.

The beers can be fantastic and can be woven into any dish.

The prob with Brit food is the marketing and crappy delivery. And that they boil the crap out of every veggie. The English pea is a beautiful thing, so are other greens.


I can agree with that. You can get really good food in the UK, the problem is a lot of places don't do it right, generally by overcooking things. They rarely mess up breakfasts so if you are in a cheap place (especially a pub), all-day breakfast is your best bet. I found this to be more of an issue with beef and poultry and rarely the case with lamb. My solution there for when I went out for a meal at "British" restaurant (opposed Indian, Chinese, Italian, etc.) was to always order lamb. This didn't seem to be a problem at non-British restaurants, and I ate some excellent food those places. I quite miss the dim sum place in one of the places I used to live. I don't think that it is because the British like their beef turned into shoe leather, and the foreign chefs don't know better because when I would eat when with British people and something was overcooked, they would whine about it to me but never say anything to the waiter, etc. So the bad restaurants get away with it where as in a lot of other countries they wouldn't get away with it.
 
2010-02-27 11:10:35 AM  
There is no US food.

None.
 
2010-02-27 11:11:10 AM  
Oh, apart from American "cheese" LOL
 
2010-02-27 11:53:31 AM  
The slur on British food is soooo 20th century. When I lived there (London and Edinburgh) long ago, it was certainly awful--I was served some "fish" in Fort William which was surely boiled in diesel fuel. But in the past decade food in the UK has become world-class. I live half the time in France, and the standards there are high--partly because of a belief that food is part of the national patrimoine. Alas, Domino's Pizza, crap food by any standard, has made inroads there.
As for food in the USA, it depends on where you look. I think the Great Gastronomic Desert in the center is still appalling, but there's excellent food elsewhere.
 
2010-02-27 12:14:53 PM  

virtdave: The slur on British food is soooo 20th century. When I lived there (London and Edinburgh) long ago, it was certainly awful--I was served some "fish" in Fort William which was surely boiled in diesel fuel. But in the past decade food in the UK has become world-class. I live half the time in France, and the standards there are high--partly because of a belief that food is part of the national patrimoine. Alas, Domino's Pizza, crap food by any standard, has made inroads there.
As for food in the USA, it depends on where you look. I think the Great Gastronomic Desert in the center is still appalling, but there's excellent food elsewhere.


As someone who lives in the 'vast gastronomic desert', you're full of crap. You can find good restaurants in any fair-to-middling sized town. You can find great restaurants in any large city. And you have square miles of produce around you from which to cook your own world-class food any time you want.
 
2010-02-27 01:00:16 PM  
Methinks the septics do protest too much.
 
2010-02-27 01:04:30 PM  
FrancoFile, I may be guilty of the same out-of-date impressions which subby has when dissing UK food. When I lived in the middle of the USA (Iowa, Chicago, Ohio) the food was pretty bad--not in people's homes (as you note, there's lotsa good produce), but the restaurants were unimpressive. I'm delighted to hear it may have improved.
 
2010-02-27 01:23:22 PM  
ukexpat
Methinks the septics do protest too much.

Best. Freudian slip. Evar.
 
2010-02-27 03:34:41 PM  

Burchill: Oh, apart from American "cheese" LOL


Velveeta is AWESOME on Philly Cheese Steaks.
 
2010-02-27 03:57:26 PM  

Phil Herup:
Why? We have a vast variety of food genres here. It is a veritable melting pot of culinary ideas and a huge culture of foodies that support it.

There are 300 million people here, some of us know how to eat.


I am not sure that I understand. Americans dismiss traditional British food as crap- and the great culinary ideas brought by multiculturalism just proves that everyone does it better than us (British Indians, Chinese etc.). British food is bad. Apart from the other 'food genres' that aren't traditional.

But your argument for why American food is good is that there are lots of genres (I'm assuming you mean from multiculturalism), not just traditional burgers-n-chips. Right?

I'm sorry, but that's bizarre hypocriticism.
 
2010-02-27 04:07:35 PM  

theoutlaw: I'm sorry, but that's bizarre hypocriticism.



America is whatever it wants to be.


theoutlaw: I am not sure that I understand.



I might agree with you.
 
2010-02-27 05:33:24 PM  

Phil Herup: theoutlaw: I'm sorry, but that's bizarre hypocriticism.


America is whatever it wants to be.


Then why is it never happy with what it is?
 
2010-02-27 05:37:37 PM  

epoc_tnac: Yeah, Britain isn't so much involved in torture, it just likes to watch other people do it on their behalf.

Farking arseholes.


Your profile says you're in Germany.
Need we Godwin up this thread with petty insults ?
Easy enough to do, just give the say so.
 
2010-02-27 07:19:31 PM  

Burchill: There is no US food.

None.


It is ALL American food, you barbarian. Whatever you eat in America is nothing like what it was in its native country. It is always, uniquely and specially, American.

I'm not going to say it's better or worse, because that's not the issue. It is AMERICAN. And anyway, corn on the cob is American, it was invented by Americans, bred and perfected by Americans, and there's nothing you Limeys can do about it.
 
2010-02-27 07:57:44 PM  
Let's hear it for boiled beef and rotting teeth, shall we?

*stiff upper lip*
 
2010-02-28 08:30:17 AM  

genner: Phil Herup: America is whatever it wants to be.


Then why is it never happy with what it is?


Only the Progressives are unhappy. They are perpetually dissatisfied.
 
2010-02-28 08:37:07 AM  

Phil Herup: genner: Phil Herup: America is whatever it wants to be.

Then why is it never happy with what it is?

Only the Progressives are unhappy. They are perpetually dissatisfied.


Yeah those damn progressive teabaggers!
 
2010-02-28 09:29:36 AM  

Halli: progressive teabaggers!


LOL
 
2010-02-28 01:02:57 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Burchill: There is no US food.

None.

It is ALL American food, you barbarian. Whatever you eat in America is nothing like what it was in its native country. It is always, uniquely and specially, processed to a fark-thee-well.


FTFY.
 
2010-03-01 01:57:15 PM  

virtdave: FrancoFile, I may be guilty of the same out-of-date impressions which subby has when dissing UK food. When I lived in the middle of the USA (Iowa, Chicago, Ohio) the food was pretty bad--not in people's homes (as you note, there's lotsa good produce), but the restaurants were unimpressive. I'm delighted to hear it may have improved.


#1 rule of eating out anywhere from Ohio to Nebraska: look for a family-run Italian restaurant.
 
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