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(Some Guy)   Report: Vaccines didn't cause Jenny McCarthy's son's autism, because he doesn't have autism. Jenny McCarthy: "My bad"   (hollywoodlife.com) divider line 439
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2010-02-26 06:48:36 PM
Teufelaffe

Usually by people unwilling to take responsibility for their own behavior.

While I personally agree with the 'unwilling to take responsibility' angle that I also know that it isn't the whole picture.

Addiction changes the functionality of the brain and f*cks with the pleasure centers. An addict, while still capable of making their own decisions, has to cope with a condition that has changed how their brain is wired.

The 'fix seeking' behavior it creates can be recognized across different types of addiction and different kinds of people.
 
2010-02-26 06:49:06 PM
oldebayer: Still no word on what caused her brain damage?

Repetitive blunt force trauma to the soft tissue in the back of the throat, which covers the central cerebellum region of the brain.
 
2010-02-26 06:49:58 PM
greentea1985: A disease has an identifiable agent, like a bacteria, that is always present in those with the disease, but absent in those without the disease.

A disorder has a recognized set of symptoms, but no known causative pathogen. A disorder is most often caused by genetic or environmental factors.


What about cancer?

Not a specific form of cancer, like lung cancer or whatever. Cancer in general.
 
2010-02-26 06:50:10 PM
The next time that dumb ass biatch goes under the knife to have her vag Scotch Guarded, or her tits realigned, or whatever the doctor needs to remove her ovaries. The last thing the world needs is for that pole dancer to squeeze out anymore kids.
 
2010-02-26 06:50:51 PM
JustTheTip: And she is also reversing her initial position that the MMR shots caused Evan's autism. Jenny says she wants vaccinations better researched - rather than getting rid of them altogether.

Sounds resonable to me. Actually, there are very few public figures who are willing to reverse themselves or substantially alter a public position. I give her credit for having to guts to do so.

And to all you folks saying she's evil for causing people to question the authority of the medical powers-that-be, Jesus... Grow a spine. All authority should be questioned, and all individuals should be ultimately responsible for themselves.

She never put a gun to anyone's head. Anyone who listened to her opinion still was ultimately responsible for comparing it the prevailing medical view and then deciding for themselves what to do.

Sitting around waiting for someone else to tell you what you should think is the very meaning of "Sheeple."


Having some uneducated twat running around telling you the sky is falling causing people not to get vacinated against deadly desease ? uh yeah.... That sounds reasonable to you ?

hahahahahahahaha , hahahahahahahaha , HAHAHAHAH AHA AHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA AH AH AH AH AHAHAHAHAHAHA

that shiat is fuuuuuuuuuuny
 
2010-02-26 06:51:03 PM
FlyingPig: Teufelaffe: Usually by people unwilling to take responsibility for their own behavior.

"I just couldn't stop myself from buying that fifth of Jack and chugging it down as soon as I stepped outside the store! I have a disease!"

That's a separate argument and one I don't feel like getting into in this thread.


Agreed. It's almost time to go home anyway. :)
 
2010-02-26 06:52:09 PM
Is this a joke?

I'm getting a pretty good laugh out of this. The onion.com couldn't have done better than reality in this case. jeesh!
 
2010-02-26 06:54:01 PM
Mnemia: I called this long ago. She's been full of shiat since day 1. First she claimed her kid was an "indigo child", then she claimed he was autistic because of vaccines, and then she claimed he was "cured" of autism due to some quackery. Combine helicopter parenting with run-of-the-mill stupidity and fame-whoring (literally), and you have Jenny McCarthy.

As far as I see it, ANYONE who ever claimed their child was an "Indigo" (or crystal or whatever) was attention-whoring, or more specifically engaging in some kind of demented reverse-Munchausen-by-Proxy, whereby one gains attention by claiming one's child is ridiculously exceptional.

I especially appreciated the journalist who noted that one child's peculiar vocabulary, seen as proof of their Indigo-ness by parent and "consultant" alike, really just showed they watched a lot of "Avatar: the Last Airbender", a TV cartoon which uses a lot of New-Agey sounding terminology.
 
2010-02-26 06:54:07 PM
oldebayer: You and all who think like you are way too late to fark her brains out. They're gone, man.

Even better. That will save me some duct tape.
 
2010-02-26 06:55:21 PM
thunderbird8804: sgnilward: mofroe: Dear Jenny,
You're an ignorant, selfish c*nt and people like you have done far more harm than good, no matter your intentions. Get f*cked with a rusty chainsaw.

Sincerely,
Everyone who takes medical advice from medical professionals


/couldn't say it any better
//so I helped you lay it louder

I believe that's what is commonly known as a Freudian slit.


That's where you say one thing, but mean amother?
 
2010-02-26 06:55:29 PM
No Such Agency: As far as I see it, ANYONE who ever claimed their child was an "Indigo" (or crystal or whatever) was attention-whoring, or more specifically engaging in some kind of demented reverse-Munchausen-by-Proxy, whereby one gains attention by claiming one's child is ridiculously exceptional.

"Indigo child" is a farking crystal-gazing, tarot-card-reading pseudoscientific bullshiat term anyway. Look up the woman who coined that term. She was a batshiat loon.
 
2010-02-26 06:57:59 PM
I view it as a Darwin thing.

If you're stupid enough to take your medical advice from Jenny McCarthy, then you're probably raising the quality of the gene pool by getting yourself (and your offspring) killed by preventable diseases.
 
2010-02-26 06:58:21 PM
Easy with the "women are stupid show me tits wah wah," boys - we women love us some fark too.
 
2010-02-26 06:58:53 PM
Maybe now people won't suggest I read what this bimbo has to say when they find out my kid is autistic. That would make me very happy.
 
2010-02-26 06:59:07 PM
Is it just me, or does TFA only state that "some guy" (no doubt much smarter than McCarthy, as if that's hard) says her kid may not have autism? I don't see where she addresses that claim, much less says "My bad" in any way.

Not saying she's not a dangerous idiot, just that she hasn't fessed up to anything, apparently.
 
2010-02-26 06:59:21 PM
FlyingPig: greentea1985: A disease has an identifiable agent, like a bacteria, that is always present in those with the disease, but absent in those without the disease.

A disorder has a recognized set of symptoms, but no known causative pathogen. A disorder is most often caused by genetic or environmental factors.

What about cancer?


You could argue the agent is "genetic damage." I dunno, it's semantics. Seems like a trivial and somewhat arbitrary distinction.
 
2010-02-26 06:59:43 PM
Snow Pirate: Easy with the "women are stupid show me tits wah wah," boys - we women love us some fark too.

Actually, it's more that Jenny McCarthy is really farking stupid and not useful for anything but showing her tits.
 
2010-02-26 07:00:22 PM
kitryne: You know, we could sit her and pile on and call her a farking moron and all,

Works for me.

She's a farking moron (or "moran" if you prefer).
 
2010-02-26 07:00:23 PM
That cucking funt! It was bad enough to endanger thousands of kids because she could not accept the idea that she passed off faulty genes to her child, but to find out that her whole reason was completely wrong!?! Her denial has caused this much pain and suffering for no reason!?! That just beats it all man.
 
2010-02-26 07:00:41 PM
yogaFLAME: Seems like a trivial and somewhat arbitrary distinction.

That's what I'm arguing. The terms are pretty much interchangeable.
 
2010-02-26 07:01:32 PM
Vaccines don't cause autism. Cosmic rays cause autism.
 
2010-02-26 07:02:21 PM
Snow Pirate
Easy with the "women are stupid show me tits wah wah," boys - we women love us some fark too.

Mammories or fare thee well!

Just kidding, we're mostly being facetious when we say things like that... although with Jenny McCarthy she really is stupid and only valuable for her boobies.
 
Ant
2010-02-26 07:03:00 PM
 
2010-02-26 07:04:30 PM
So, she's autistic, and Jimmy's autistic.

(Does this mean all Canadians are autistic?)

And people are surprised her crotchfruit is autistic?

Um, Jenny?

Shaddup and show us your vagina.
 
2010-02-26 07:04:44 PM
Amanda Peet is way hotter too.
 
2010-02-26 07:05:29 PM
IonBeam2: Vaccines don't cause autism. Cosmic rays cause autism.

Anything but my farked up gene pool!
 
2010-02-26 07:05:59 PM
Her kid doesn't even have autism?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a moron. And best of all, now she KNOWS she's a moron. I LOVE it when morons discover beyond a shadow of a doubt. I hope she enjoys the "holy crap, I'm stupid" feeling. And that she realises how many kids she's killed.

I also hope she gets Polio.
 
2010-02-26 07:06:38 PM
Xetal

If you're stupid enough to take your medical advice from Jenny McCarthy, then you're probably raising the quality of the gene pool by getting yourself (and your offspring) killed by preventable diseases.

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Herd immunity does not work that way!

Seriously though, immunization has a base failure rate of a couple percent. Allowing disease to spread around and test that base failure rate sounds undesirable.

In addition, allowing these diseases to spread unchecked in small segments of the population gives the real Darwin aspect of it a free hand in stumbling across a variant that will infect even those with immunizations that took.

Immunization should also be viewed as a cost effective preventative measure.

So, no, I don't believe that people who skip immunizations are harmless folks that will just die from disease, they are a danger even to the immunized.
 
2010-02-26 07:07:34 PM
This is shameful to admit, but if it came down to it and if I were in Jim Carrey's shoes, I'd probably be standing beside her saying the same stupid nonsense she does. I'd feel dirty and ashamed every night before drifting off to sleep, but any time the shame got too great, I would catch a whiff of her scent lingering in my goatee and I would accept my fate.
 
2010-02-26 07:07:36 PM
Vile hate for Jenny but no vile hate for the doctor that gave a wrong diagnosis that started all this.

/yay!
//lets all hate each other over a non-living thing that is spread through everyone that we cannot kill
///slashies kill zombies too
 
2010-02-26 07:07:44 PM
Soooo does this mean Jim Carrey isn't the 'Autism Whisper' then?
 
2010-02-26 07:08:23 PM
FlyingPig: yogaFLAME: Seems like a trivial and somewhat arbitrary distinction.

That's what I'm arguing. The terms are pretty much interchangeable.


Now that I think about it, they are. For example, just off the top of my head, Gaucher's Disease (pretty much never ever called -disorder). You lack an enzyme so metabolic byproducts build up in your joints. No exogenous agent, just sh*tty genetics, and it's referred to as a disease.
 
2010-02-26 07:08:24 PM
The difference between Jenny McCarthy, and a Real Doctor:
1) Real Doctors go to school for a long time to learn medicine. Jenny McCarthy did not.

2) Real Doctors are trained to read research results, understand them, and explain them to patients, carefully. (Although honestly, some doctors suck at that last part.) Jenny McCarthy read some books that mention some research results, but did not go look at the rest of the research. Instead, she took what the book authors suggested at face value.

3) When a real doctor gives you bad advice, you can sue him or her.

Good luck, Jenny McCarthy. I can't wait for the class action suit where you have two choices:
a) Claim in front of a court that no reasonable person should ask you for medical advice, because you are not a doctor, not a researcher, and in fact, just a famous person with a big mouth,
OR
b) Pay out zillions to every retard that followed your advice.

I'm hoping for BOTH A AND B, myself.
 
2010-02-26 07:09:29 PM
Ughhh, what if she is right?

No way in hell would I want all that crap pumped into me so early - and no - it was different when I was a kid, they have changed the scheduling of the vaccines to basically more and sooner. Something is farking up the kids (my wife tells me about it all the time - she is a behavior health counselor).

/Yup, I'm a nurse.
//I don't get that damn flu vaccine either
 
2010-02-26 07:09:51 PM
Jenny,,, your a stupid biatch,,, I mean really,,, but could I just cum in yer butt once? I`d really appreciate it.
 
2010-02-26 07:10:10 PM
Ant: The anti-Jenny McCarhty, Amanda Peet


now that I've done my research, vaccines do not concern me." What does concern her is the growing number of unvaccinated children who are benefiting from the "shield" created by the inoculated-we are protected from viruses only if everyone, or most everyone, is immunized: "Frankly, I feel that parents who don't vaccinate their children are parasites."

- Amanda Peet


And did you see the Whole Nine Yards? I mean... holy crap...

I'll... be back later.
 
2010-02-26 07:10:17 PM
ant
The anti-Jenny McCarhty, Amanda Peet

Not to mention she also has good taste in cars too...
 
2010-02-26 07:10:45 PM
Oh awesome, a murse troll.
 
2010-02-26 07:10:48 PM
I'm thrilled about how embarrassing this must be for her.
 
2010-02-26 07:11:27 PM
HONDOWAYNE: Jenny,,, your a stupid biatch,,, I mean really,,, but could I just cum in yer butt once? I`d really appreciate it.

If only she had let the father of this kid cum in her butt, the world would be better off.

/face it, this kid is farked
 
2010-02-26 07:11:55 PM
cardiovascular: Ughhh, what if she is right?

No way in hell would I want all that crap pumped into me so early - and no - it was different when I was a kid, they have changed the scheduling of the vaccines to basically more and sooner. Something is farking up the kids (my wife tells me about it all the time - she is a behavior health counselor).

/Yup, I'm a nurse.
//I don't get that damn flu vaccine either


So, you are a nurse who rejects the scientific method.

Where are you a nurse so I can avoid that clinic?
 
2010-02-26 07:12:21 PM
FlyingPig:
"Indigo child" is a farking crystal-gazing, tarot-card-reading pseudoscientific bullshiat term anyway. Look up the woman who coined that term. She was a batshiat loon.


I felt that went without saying.

The point is, it was obvious to anyone with a brain that McCarthy's kid quite possibly didn't really have autism, just based on the shifting nature of her claims. Too bad the media just repeated so much of what she said uncritically, and even allowed her to use her status as an "autism mommy" as a credential to put her on equal grounds with doctors, scientists, and other people who have a clue about what they're talking about. Will all the media people who had her on their shows now apologize to their viewers for getting suckered? I'm not holding my breath.
 
2010-02-26 07:12:26 PM
Diseases and disorders are two completely different things. The problem is that many disorders have been "upgraded" to disease status because it makes them sound more serious, or because it makes them more "catchy" so they are easier to publicize, or so the issue qualifies for some social program or another. This has resulted in misunderstanding of the two terms.

For instance:

Heart disease? Not a disease.
Parkinson's disease? Yeah, that's definitely a disorder.
Alcoholism? Not even CLOSE to being a disease.
 
2010-02-26 07:13:12 PM
came for pix lllllleaving ssssssatistieddddd
 
2010-02-26 07:14:12 PM
Bossk'sSegway

Vile hate for Jenny but no vile hate for the doctor that gave a wrong diagnosis that started all this.

There is no extent to the loathing I have for the opportunistic scum known as Andrew Wakefield. That pile of scum wrote a scientific paper based on a small sample of cases fed to him by trial lawyers seeking to sue vaccine companies. He failed to disclose that conflict of interest and the conflict of interest from his patent on a vaccine that would be used if the combined MMR went away.

However, peer review and science won that battle. He has been discredited, his paper has been fully retracted. He will never submit a paper to a decent peer reviewed journal again.

/oh wait you're talking about the initial autism diagnosis
//my gut says she doctor shopped around for that one
 
2010-02-26 07:14:15 PM
Ant: The anti-Jenny McCarhty, Amanda Peet

now that I've done my research, vaccines do not concern me." What does concern her is the growing number of unvaccinated children who are benefiting from the "shield" created by the inoculated-we are protected from viruses only if everyone, or most everyone, is immunized: "Frankly, I feel that parents who don't vaccinate their children are parasites."

- Amanda Peet


I don't take medical advice from celebrities, period. Even the ones i agree with, or think are as beautiful as they are intelligent, like Amanda Peet.

And while i'd give either one of them the best 30 seconds of my life, i'd actually feel bad for disappointing Peet.
 
2010-02-26 07:14:15 PM
monsieurstabby: I'm thrilled about how embarrassing this must be for her.

People like her don't get embarrassed. They like the attention even when it's negative.
 
2010-02-26 07:14:43 PM
cardiovascular: Ughhh, what if she is right?

No way in hell would I want all that crap pumped into me so early - and no - it was different when I was a kid, they have changed the scheduling of the vaccines to basically more and sooner. Something is farking up the kids (my wife tells me about it all the time - she is a behavior health counselor).

/Yup, I'm a nurse.
//I don't get that damn flu vaccine either


[facepalm]
 
2010-02-26 07:15:13 PM
arentol: Diseases and disorders are two completely different things. The problem is that many disorders have been "upgraded" to disease status because it makes them sound more serious, or because it makes them more "catchy" so they are easier to publicize, or so the issue qualifies for some social program or another. This has resulted in misunderstanding of the two terms.

Yes, because if a medical problem doesn't earn the vaunted classification of "disease", it's obviously imaginary and all in the person's head. It's not a real problem!
 
2010-02-26 07:16:22 PM
Some kid supposedly had autism, but it turned out he was just an annoying little shiat? Color me surprised.
 
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