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(BBC)   Despite eating higher fat foods and doing less exercise, people in the '60s were skinnier due to all the shagging, protesting, assassinating, hippy-ing about, and other typical '60s-activities   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 365
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2010-02-26 01:20:35 PM
Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor
 
2010-02-26 01:35:24 PM
Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor


also, things like high-fructose corn syrup weren't introduced to our diet in meaninful ways until the mid-seventies
 
2010-02-26 01:57:52 PM
High gluten wheat hadn't shown up yet.
 
2010-02-26 02:04:59 PM
The portion sizes thing I agree with, but still think lack of exercise is mostly to blame. People just don't walk anywhere.
 
2010-02-26 03:17:07 PM
Adman12: The portion sizes thing I agree with, but still think lack of exercise is mostly to blame. People just don't walk anywhere.

The thing that is killing me is my current job environment frowns upon breaks. At my last job, I used to use my break to take a walk for a good 45 minutes, which was good exercise in the middle of the day for someone who has a job that requires sitting at a computer all day. But a 45-minute break is unfathomable in this environment -- people sometimes get the stink-eye for going to the bathroom or going to the cafeteria to grab some lunch (to eat at their desks).

I realize the law protects you from this sort of thing, but with jobs in such high demand, are you going to be the one biatching about lack of a break and employment law?
 
2010-02-26 03:21:37 PM
For goodness sakes... They did the hippie hippie shake.
 
2010-02-26 03:22:08 PM
Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor


Also kinda hard when people are strung out on speed all the time.
 
2010-02-26 03:22:12 PM
Groovy!
 
2010-02-26 03:22:28 PM
That's because they had to walk everywhere, uphills both ways.
 
2010-02-26 03:22:39 PM
Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor


-Mother's little helpers

/mmm dexedrine
 
2010-02-26 03:23:00 PM
Yay, a fatty thread!

...and I agree with the guy above me. It is an uphill battle to stay in shape when you have an office job. (By "in shape," I mean good shape, not just un-obese.)
 
2010-02-26 03:23:01 PM
thomps: Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor

also, things like high-fructose corn syrup weren't introduced to our diet in meaninful ways until the mid-seventies


THIS
 
2010-02-26 03:24:22 PM
Want to know why? High fructose corn syrup and massive corn subsidies have made it incredibly cheap to eat unhealthy. When it costs me $5/lb for apples compared to $2.50 for a tub of ice cream I wonder what people are going to choose.

Here is an idea America: stop subsidizing corn, tax anything with HFCS and apply those taxes to subsidize fresh/frozen fruits and vegetables.
 
2010-02-26 03:24:29 PM
Fewer moms had to work as more people cooked at home. Fast food like pizza and McDonald's were more occasional treats than necessities.

Sure, people eat more salads these days, but they seem to be in the minority.
 
2010-02-26 03:25:30 PM
There was an ad on TV the other day selling a butter substitute. It was making fun of '50's recipes that were apprently larded with sticks of butter. It strikes me as ironic that these yummy butter laden recipes are portrayed as a mistake since people were less fat then.

I say bring back more butter and fat in diets! It worked for grandpa.
 
2010-02-26 03:26:47 PM
Oh look another Fatty Thread.

\I know, I sound fat. Actually, not but these threads are all the same...


Go be fat somewhere else right?
 
2010-02-26 03:27:00 PM
Postal Penguin: Want to know why? High fructose corn syrup and massive corn subsidies have made it incredibly cheap to eat unhealthy. When it costs me $5/lb for apples compared to $2.50 for a tub of ice cream I wonder what people are going to choose.

Here is an idea America: stop subsidizing corn, tax anything with HFCS and apply those taxes to subsidize fresh/frozen fruits and vegetables.


Apples are 1.88/lb here. Honeycrisps are the expensive ones at 2.88/lb.
 
2010-02-26 03:27:04 PM
High Gluten wheat is another name for cake flour, which has been around for a long time...

I wasn't born in the 60's so i don't know. What i do know is that america is increasingly leading a more sedentary lifestyle with more and more demand for preprocessed meals.

Hell even i had to walk to school in the 80s, by the time i got to highschool, it was law that kids had to ride the bus. One girl had to ride the bus who lived across the street from the highschool until she was 16. Even then she had to drive across the street because the city enforced a no walking policy...

We didnt need "gyms" in the 50's and 60's unless you were a body builder. People just seemed more naturally active back then...
 
2010-02-26 03:27:05 PM
thomps: Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor

also, things like high-fructose corn syrup weren't introduced to our diet in meaninful ways until the mid-seventies


Also not as chalked full of preservatives.
 
2010-02-26 03:27:09 PM
Postal Penguin: Want to know why? High fructose corn syrup and massive corn subsidies have made it incredibly cheap to eat unhealthy. When it costs me $5/lb for apples compared to $2.50 for a tub of ice cream I wonder what people are going to choose.

Here is an idea America: stop subsidizing corn, tax anything with HFCS and apply those taxes to subsidize fresh/frozen fruits and vegetables.


THIS.

But it's Exhibit 18838483478348378277384783473483728748374733483847822 of what happens when people allow the government to get involved with anything.

/they even farked up biodiesel
 
2010-02-26 03:27:12 PM
They had real food back then. Thank you Monsanto, Archer Daniels Midland and other craptastic mega food corps!!
 
2010-02-26 03:27:17 PM
High-fructose corn syrup is probably the biggest reason fat-bodies are everywhere.
 
2010-02-26 03:27:37 PM
Must be the low fat baby sandwiches all of the dope smoking hippies were eating. Right? Cause the man said that dope smoking would make you careless and you'd stick your baby in the oven and delicious baby sloppy joes.

Baby. It is what's for dinner.
 
2010-02-26 03:27:42 PM
Notice fathers spend one more minute cooking than they did in the 60's? Are there just no more barbecues around now?
 
2010-02-26 03:27:58 PM
serpent_sky: Adman12: The portion sizes thing I agree with, but still think lack of exercise is mostly to blame. People just don't walk anywhere.

The thing that is killing me is my current job environment frowns upon breaks. At my last job, I used to use my break to take a walk for a good 45 minutes, which was good exercise in the middle of the day for someone who has a job that requires sitting at a computer all day. But a 45-minute break is unfathomable in this environment -- people sometimes get the stink-eye for going to the bathroom or going to the cafeteria to grab some lunch (to eat at their desks).

I realize the law protects you from this sort of thing, but with jobs in such high demand, are you going to be the one biatching about lack of a break and employment law?


The Puritan/Protestant work ethic - gotta love it. Hey, at least it gives you money to buy an SUV. The '60s had their VW vans, but people still walked more.
 
2010-02-26 03:28:12 PM
thomps: Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor

also, things like high-fructose corn syrup weren't introduced to our diet in meaninful ways until the mid-seventies



All of the above, and they didn't all have desktop computers to sit in front of all day long. People were on their feet a lot more. Kids played outside.

Now we have fast food places BRAGGING about how huge their hamburgers are and introducing suicide machines like that new #!@% "bacon grilled cheese sandwich." At a certain point, we have to collectively say "WTF"? I used to think Bill Maher's equating the fast food joints with the tobacco industry was going a little too far, but it really isn't when you look at the stats. This shiat is giving people heart disease and killing them just as directly as tobacco is killing with cancer.
 
2010-02-26 03:28:58 PM
Blargh, I totally flubbed a sentence.

Bother.
 
2010-02-26 03:29:18 PM
PROCESSED FOOD
 
2010-02-26 03:29:21 PM
Merltech: thomps: Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor

also, things like high-fructose corn syrup weren't introduced to our diet in meaninful ways until the mid-seventies

Also not as chalked full of preservatives.


or chocked, either.

Hot like www.naval-technology.com
\ \
chocks, in place.
 
2010-02-26 03:29:35 PM
Adman12: The portion sizes thing I agree with, but still think lack of exercise is mostly to blame. People just don't walk anywhere.

We've had a family cottage for close to 40 years. In the summer village, kids on bikes and families walking from campfire to campfire have now been replaced with fat people on quads/golf carts and 'no trespassing' signs on most lots.

We've become lazy AND unfriendly.
 
2010-02-26 03:29:42 PM
Veteran of the Cola Wars: Must be the low fat baby sandwiches all of the dope smoking hippies were eating.

The cigarettes everyone else were smoking are a more likely culprit. Stopping halfway through a meal to burn one probably ensures you eat less......
 
2010-02-26 03:29:58 PM
ParadisePornoTheater: serpent_sky: Adman12: The portion sizes thing I agree with, but still think lack of exercise is mostly to blame. People just don't walk anywhere.

The thing that is killing me is my current job environment frowns upon breaks. At my last job, I used to use my break to take a walk for a good 45 minutes, which was good exercise in the middle of the day for someone who has a job that requires sitting at a computer all day. But a 45-minute break is unfathomable in this environment -- people sometimes get the stink-eye for going to the bathroom or going to the cafeteria to grab some lunch (to eat at their desks).

I realize the law protects you from this sort of thing, but with jobs in such high demand, are you going to be the one biatching about lack of a break and employment law?

The Puritan/Protestant work ethic - gotta love it. Hey, at least it gives you money to buy an SUV. The '60s had their VW vans, but people still walked more.


People got out and pushed their VW vans up the hill, that's the secret to staying thin.
 
2010-02-26 03:30:51 PM
morsmortis: High-fructose corn syrup is probably the biggest reason fat-bodies are everywhere.

I don't know that it's the high-fructose corn syrup--it's that we consume so much of it now. You'd basically have the same effect if you shoveled that much plain sugar into your mouth.
 
2010-02-26 03:30:51 PM
hartzdog: That's because they had to walk everywhere, uphills both ways.

in 3 feet of snow. with bears chasing them. whilst carrying 100lbs of books.
 
2010-02-26 03:30:53 PM
CeroX: High Gluten wheat is another name for cake flour, which has been around for a long time...

I wasn't born in the 60's so i don't know. What i do know is that america is increasingly leading a more sedentary lifestyle with more and more demand for preprocessed meals.

Hell even i had to walk to school in the 80s, by the time i got to highschool, it was law that kids had to ride the bus. One girl had to ride the bus who lived across the street from the highschool until she was 16. Even then she had to drive across the street because the city enforced a no walking policy...

We didnt need "gyms" in the 50's and 60's unless you were a body builder. People just seemed more naturally active back then...


Well - they just didn't have the plethora of excellent TV entertainment programs that we enjoy today. I mean, isn't a grossly reduced quality of life a small price to pay for the wonders of modern Reality TV?

/rolls eyes right out of head...
 
2010-02-26 03:31:15 PM
They could have just summed it up by saying they got outside more, they didnt have the internet, 250 cable stations, or delivery of anything you could want.
 
2010-02-26 03:31:27 PM
Do we still believe that eating fat makes you fat? Ugh.
 
2010-02-26 03:32:14 PM
This is what happens when you take the Ten Commandments out of the classroom.
 
2010-02-26 03:32:18 PM
You guys and your high fructose corn syrup. Real scientists have already proven that they are no worse than other forms of sugar.
 
2010-02-26 03:32:40 PM
Postal Penguin: Here is an idea America: stop subsidizing corn, tax anything with HFCS and apply those taxes to subsidize fresh/frozen fruits and vegetables.

ok ok. enough making sense. your scaring people.
 
2010-02-26 03:32:44 PM
Il Douchey: Factors not considered:

-Portion sizes were much smaller
-Everything wasn't partially hydrogenated
-LBJ and Welfare food stamps hadn't yet embiggened the poor


Another factor not considered: the survey concerned the UK.

Now, I personally do not know the history of welfare assistance in the UK, but I am willing to bet that LBJ and his food stamps were not a factor.
 
2010-02-26 03:33:02 PM
w00ty: hartzdog: That's because they had to walk everywhere, uphills both ways.

in 3 feet of snow. with bears chasing them. whilst carrying 100lbs of books.


Naked, with only a handful of gravel and lard for lunch.
 
2010-02-26 03:33:07 PM
do you know how much weight one can lose by chomping some shrooms, hanging out by a drum circle while twirling those damn devil sticks for hours at a time...like..like..a lot man.
 
2010-02-26 03:33:16 PM
Hey, I know. Let's turn this into a proper Baby-boomer bashing thread. I need a good bashing on the Boomer about all the garbage I have to clean up after them.
 
2010-02-26 03:33:16 PM
I think it has a lot to do with bigger portions and less exercise.

In other words, we are a bunch of lazy pigs.

Well. I'm not.
 
2010-02-26 03:33:51 PM
w00ty: hartzdog: That's because they had to walk everywhere, uphills both ways.

in 3 feet of snow. with bears chasing them. whilst carrying 100lbs of books.


Don't forget that the Russians were riding said bears while armed with harpoons.

Where can I get a shagaerobics DVD?
 
2010-02-26 03:33:58 PM
40 years ago in Britain things were much different. TFA listed some lifestyle differences. Processed food was nearly non-existent. People went to their local shops (butcher, fishmonger, baker, etc) to buy their dinner the same day they cooked it. And they walked or biked to get there. 20 years ago in the UK some of the older (50+) folks in the small towns and villages were still doing this on a regular basis. Younger folks, not so much.


Lifestyles in the US were not like that. The explosion to live in the 'burbs, television, frozen dinners, etc had been around since the 50s.
 
2010-02-26 03:34:06 PM
Ubiquitous and cheap soda. Nothing like being able to drink 320-960 calories a day in addition to what you're eating.
 
2010-02-26 03:35:33 PM
Postal Penguin: Want to know why? High fructose corn syrup and massive corn subsidies have made it incredibly cheap to eat unhealthy. When it costs me $5/lb for apples compared to $2.50 for a tub of ice cream I wonder what people are going to choose.

Where do you shop? I find it to be the opposite, apples are $2.00 a pound and a tub of ice cream is like five bucks.
 
2010-02-26 03:35:43 PM
While the claim is that HFCS is "nutritionally the same as sugar" they forget to mention that there is no way to seperate the enzymes they add to corn that makes it a sweet and sugary goo, and those same enzymes get absorbed in the human body giving them more fuel to convert... turning your blood plasma into a sugary sweet goo...

Hello diabetes!
 
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