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(Kansas City)   AP writer, apparently having never heard of the NHL, calls US Olympic Hockey team "a bunch of unproven kids"   (kansascity.com) divider line 93
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2010-02-23 02:39:38 PM  
Moderately hilariously, even the lowly Toronto Maple Leafs can claim four Olympians from four countries:

Kessel (USA)
Kaberle (CZE)
Gustavsson (SWE)
Grabovski (BLR)
 
2010-02-23 02:41:50 PM  
I'm a proud Canadian who sees this as "our game", and of course want to see our boys on the highest podium, but as a fan of the sport there's no denying the amazing showcase of talent this year.

The Americans aren't a bunch of come-from-behind untested miracle workers - they have an extremely talented team that is firing on all cylinders. Just like the Czechs, the Russians, the Swedes.. Canada has to take its competitors seriously and stop with this entitled "own the podium" mentality. Anything less shows a serious lack of respect for your fellow athletes.
 
2010-02-23 02:45:12 PM  
Thomas Greiss (Germany) plays for San Jose... so there is some German contingent in there without Goc or Erhoff.
 
2010-02-23 02:48:20 PM  
img109.imageshack.us
 
2010-02-23 02:55:04 PM  
Canadians Racial Characteristics: Hard to tell a Canadian from an extremely boring regular white person unless he's dressed to go outdoors. Very little is know of the Canadian country since it is rarely visited by anyone but the Queen and illiterate sport fishermen. It is thought to resemble sort of an arctic Nebraska. It's reported that Canadians keep pet French people. ... At any rate, they are apparently able to train Frenchmen to play hockey, which is more than any any European has been able to do.

//loves me some PJ
 
2010-02-23 02:55:20 PM  
It was great to see those college kids from America defeat those Canadian commie bastards...
 
2010-02-23 02:55:46 PM  
poisonedpawn78:
Not for long. bettman wants to end the partnership because it cuts into the season and he cant control it like the little napoleon DICKtator he is.

So it will go back to being the boring nobody cares beer league olympics that it was in the past.


If it happens it has less to do with Bettman than the owners wishing to protect their investments. The reason he'll remain "in power" is he does his job so perfectly: take the heat for the owners.
 
2010-02-23 02:59:29 PM  
Killer Cars: I was about to say San Jose, but I forgot both Goc and Erhoff no longer play for them, and I doubt they can go all "sprechen sie deutsch?" to the Canadians and get beyond them and others to a medal.

1) Either Nabakov (Russia), or Thornton/Marleau/Heatley/Boyle (Canada) will surely medal
2) Pavelski (USA) could get one
3) Murray (Sweden) could get one

I'm pulling for a Usa/Canada/Sweden (is that possible?) finish, and 6 medals for SJ

If Nabby, Pavelski, and Murray all get medals, I think the SJ locker room will be amusing for awhile.

As it is, watching the Canadian sharks vs Nabby would be all kinds of awesome.

Also, does anyone know if Griess played in germany's 2nd and 3rd games? I know Griess held Sweden to two goals in the first game, but after that, germany sucked.
 
2010-02-23 03:04:58 PM  
I guess technically Germany could start playing better, eliminate Canada, and Griess could medal for SJ (but I doubt it)

I suspect SJ will have the most medals at the end, regardless.
 
2010-02-23 03:11:41 PM  
Well in a way he's right. Compared to the other teams they are kids, and they're unproven.

Only 3 players on the team have played in the Olympics before Drury, Rafalski, and Langenbrunner.

Also the average age for the team is 26, which is 5 years younger than the team in 2006.

As for Stanley Cup experience on the 2 teams

US - Rafalski, Drury, Orpik. Langenbrunner

CAN - Broduer, Fleury, Boyle, Neidermayer, Pronger, Crosby, Getzlaf, Perry, Staal
 
2010-02-23 03:35:33 PM  
Sami Salo (Finland)
Ryan Kesler (USA) That empty netter hurt so good.
Roberto Luongo (Canada)
Henrick Sedin (Sweden)
Daniel Sedin (Sweden)
Pavol Demitra (Slovakia)
Christian Ehrhoff (Germany)
 
2010-02-23 03:39:30 PM  
Full list of NHL players by team or country here.

NHL.com (new window)

/ you can thank me later.
 
2010-02-23 03:57:16 PM  
mtylerjr: I guess technically Germany could start playing better, eliminate Canada, and Griess could medal for SJ (but I doubt it)

I suspect SJ will have the most medals at the end, regardless.


Greiss played games 1 & 3; they had former-Shark Patzold play game 2 (why they played Patzold is anyone's guess).
 
2010-02-23 03:57:25 PM  
Washington Capitals could do it with Czech(Flash), Sweden(Backstrom), Capitals(practically the rest of the team).
 
2010-02-23 04:11:14 PM  
Killer Cars:

/having Miller behind the pipes helps a lot too


If I were the USA coach, I would suggest Miller situates himself between the pipes, perhaps slightly in front of, but hey, what do I know?

/too easy...
 
2010-02-23 04:13:27 PM  
Free Radical: LOL! Awesome!

A bunch of unproven players whooped up on a buch on proven players to bet a bye in the tourney.....LOL!

America....F YEAH!!!
 
2010-02-23 04:26:20 PM  
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: US, Canada, Russia

Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland
 
2010-02-23 04:28:53 PM  
one wiz with: Washington Capitals could do it with Czech(Flash), Sweden(Backstrom), Capitals Russia(practically the rest of the team).

ftfy
 
2010-02-23 04:33:46 PM  
Brodeur was a frickin' sieve in that game.

The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

That's an extreme complement to the goalie and not a putdown of the rest of the US team.
 
2010-02-23 04:41:44 PM  
Jonny Ninja: Full list of NHL players by team or country here.

NHL.com (new window)

/ you can thank me later.


Thanks!

/Too soon?
 
2010-02-23 04:48:09 PM  
Firefly4F4: The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

This is the popular story, but it's not totally accurate to say that Canada was better in all facets of the game except goaltending.

Canada carried the play for almost all of the 2nd period, and the last three minutes of the 3rd. But I thought the US played them fairly even during other times. There were a few stretches where the teams were trading chances up and down the ice, and both goalies had to make good saves. And I thought the US had the better of the play in the early part of the the 3rd period.

Plus the US special teams were better, I thought. The US powerplay looked a lot better than the Canada powerplay. And US defensemen, I thought, did a better job supporting their goaltender, blocking shots, etc.
 
2010-02-23 05:01:02 PM  
Doc Daneeka: Firefly4F4: The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

This is the popular story, but it's not totally accurate to say that Canada was better in all facets of the game except goaltending.

Canada carried the play for almost all of the 2nd period, and the last three minutes of the 3rd. But I thought the US played them fairly even during other times. There were a few stretches where the teams were trading chances up and down the ice, and both goalies had to make good saves. And I thought the US had the better of the play in the early part of the the 3rd period.

Plus the US special teams were better, I thought. The US powerplay looked a lot better than the Canada powerplay. And US defensemen, I thought, did a better job supporting their goaltender, blocking shots, etc.


The US was also a lot better at the whole not screening your own goalie thing.
 
2010-02-23 05:02:12 PM  
rynthetyn: The US was also a lot better at the whole not screening your own goalie thing.

And not giving Canada's point men an hour to shoot.
 
2010-02-23 05:15:13 PM  
SlothB77: one wiz with: Washington Capitals could do it with Czech(Flash), Sweden(Backstrom), Capitals Russia(practically the rest of the team).

ftfy


Just going to pretend that didn't happen.
 
2010-02-23 05:23:59 PM  
Firefly4F4: Brodeur was a frickin' sieve in that game.

The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

That's an extreme complement to the goalie and not a putdown of the rest of the US team.


1st...you don't get outplayed and lose. It just doesn't happen. You don't win on fluke...except in maybe soccer.

2nd...5 goals doesn't constitute a game 'saved by an extremely good goalie'.

It really sounds like your buying the crap the moron talking-heads are selling on CTV/TSN.
 
2010-02-23 06:09:51 PM  
sn0wblind: Firefly4F4: Brodeur was a frickin' sieve in that game.

The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

That's an extreme complement to the goalie and not a putdown of the rest of the US team.

1st...you don't get outplayed and lose. It just doesn't happen. You don't win on fluke...except in maybe soccer.

2nd...5 goals doesn't constitute a game 'saved by an extremely good goalie'.

It really sounds like your buying the crap the moron talking-heads are selling on CTV/TSN.


Some where in Toronto, Don Cherry is wearing his angry suit because of those comments.
 
2010-02-23 07:07:13 PM  
Doc Daneeka:
And they are, for the most part, unproven in Olympics competition, having only a few players who appeared in previous Olympics.



But their Captain has won a World Series. That makes up for it imho.
 
2010-02-23 07:10:24 PM  
Wulfman: Doc Daneeka:
And they are, for the most part, unproven in Olympics competition, having only a few players who appeared in previous Olympics.


But their Captain has won a World Series. That makes up for it imho.


Jamie Langenbrunner won a World Series?

How is that again?
 
2010-02-23 07:11:28 PM  
Wulfman: But their Captain has won a World Series. That makes up for it imho.

?
 
2010-02-23 07:21:41 PM  
Doc Daneeka: Jamie Langenbrunner won a World Series?

How is that again?



My apologies, I was certain I had read somewhere that he was a co-captain (a concept I hate) with Chris Drury. It seems I was mistaken.

Of course we all know about Chris Drury winning the World Series in 1989, right?
 
2010-02-23 08:14:25 PM  
one wiz with: SlothB77: one wiz with: Washington Capitals could do it with Czech(Flash), Sweden(Backstrom), Capitals Russia(practically the rest of the team).

ftfy

Just going to pretend that didn't happen.


Yeah, but look at former/retired Caps and you can at least add Slovakia (Bondra) and Czech (Jagr) ^_^

// mostly Russia though
 
2010-02-23 08:47:03 PM  
RsquaredW: fruitloop: RsquaredW: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dletter: Aren't all the Olympic hockey teams now basically the "NHL" All stars from their countries now, and have been since like the late 90s?

US, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic... if these teams finish 1-2-3 in any order, there are going to be NHL teams that can boast 3 different medals.

Can't happen, either Russia or Canada can medal but both cannot.

FTFY

Hmm, I know the Pens would've gotten a USA-RUS-CAN triple medal (Crosby/Malkin/Orpick) but I'm trying to think of an NHL team with triple medal potential with current brackets. Anyone help?


Detroit could pull it off with the USA, Finland and either Sweden or Russia.
 
2010-02-23 08:53:08 PM  
Wulfman: Doc Daneeka: Jamie Langenbrunner won a World Series?

How is that again?


My apologies, I was certain I had read somewhere that he was a co-captain (a concept I hate) with Chris Drury. It seems I was mistaken.

Of course we all know about Chris Drury winning the World Series in 1989, right?


I read somewhere that there are more participants of the little league world series playing in the NHL then in MLB.
 
2010-02-23 09:02:19 PM  
erikike: Wulfman: Doc Daneeka: Jamie Langenbrunner won a World Series?

How is that again?


My apologies, I was certain I had read somewhere that he was a co-captain (a concept I hate) with Chris Drury. It seems I was mistaken.

Of course we all know about Chris Drury winning the World Series in 1989, right?

I read somewhere that there are more participants of the little league world series playing in the NHL then in MLB.


Aren't there also some women's hockey players who participated in the Little League World Series too?
 
2010-02-23 10:24:11 PM  
The Onanist: Jonny Ninja: Full list of NHL players by team or country here.

NHL.com (new window)

/ you can thank me later.

Thanks!

/Too soon?


Bit late, was starting to get worried, turning emo over it.

/ Thanks
 
2010-02-23 11:22:56 PM  
GoteamVenture: sn0wblind: Firefly4F4: Brodeur was a frickin' sieve in that game.

The US got outplayed, but was saved by an extremely good goalie.

That's an extreme complement to the goalie and not a putdown of the rest of the US team.

1st...you don't get outplayed and lose. It just doesn't happen. You don't win on fluke...except in maybe soccer.

2nd...5 goals doesn't constitute a game 'saved by an extremely good goalie'.

It really sounds like your buying the crap the moron talking-heads are selling on CTV/TSN.

Some where in Toronto, Don Cherry is wearing his angry suit because of those comments.


But could we tell the difference? Are his angry suits ones that are made of dark colored wool suiting fabric?
 
2010-02-24 12:21:11 AM  
There are 6 or 7 teams that are made up of a lot of NHL players, yeah Canada, U.S. and Russia have a high majority.


My guess is U.S. will end up knocking off Finland (obviously saying both teams beat their next opponent). Sweden beats whoever they play, Russia loses to Canada. Canada beats Sweden. Sweden beats Finland for bronze. Finally U.S. and Canada have one of the most entertaining games in hockey history, and who knows who wins.
 
2010-02-24 03:15:28 AM  
Lt. Cheese Weasel: And despite all that, Brett Hulls goal still counts......

YOU =
hotdogandfriends.com
 
2010-02-24 01:08:32 PM  
dletter: But, the guys writing about hockey from Kansas City, so, give him a little slack.

The dood who wrote the article is an Associated Press writer from New York City. The AP sells subscription to their warblgarbl and the KC star picks it up. See how that works? And, Kansas City is a hockey town. So, the author fails once, you fail twice. Back to class, dletter.
 
2010-02-24 02:29:32 PM  
RsquaredW: fruitloop: RsquaredW: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dletter: Aren't all the Olympic hockey teams now basically the "NHL" All stars from their countries now, and have been since like the late 90s?

US, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic... if these teams finish 1-2-3 in any order, there are going to be NHL teams that can boast 3 different medals.

Can't happen, either Russia or Canada can medal but both cannot.

FTFY

Hmm, I know the Pens would've gotten a USA-RUS-CAN triple medal (Crosby/Malkin/Orpick) but I'm trying to think of an NHL team with triple medal potential with current brackets. Anyone help?


Don't know if anyone said it yet, but the Devils (Brodeur, Parise, Kovalchuk)
 
2010-02-24 02:35:46 PM  
kevinshields: Hmm, I know the Pens would've gotten a USA-RUS-CAN triple medal (Crosby/Malkin/Orpick) but I'm trying to think of an NHL team with triple medal potential with current brackets. Anyone help?

Don't know if anyone said it yet, but the Devils (Brodeur, Parise, Kovalchuk)


Buffalo Sabres:
-Miller (USA)
-Tallinder (SWE)
-Lydman (FIN)

USA-Sweden-Finland are a highly feasible top three given the current brackets.

Sweden has as good a chance as either Russia or Canada of coming out of that side of the bracket into the gold medal game.

In the other bracket, USA and Finland is your likely semi-final, so both those teams will likely be heading to medal games
 
2010-02-25 07:01:13 PM  
Looks like, of all teams, the Canucks will have an all three-medalist team for sure, with Pavol Demitra (SVK), Roberto Luongo (CAN), Sami Salo (FIN), and Ryan Kesler (USA).

Lots of other teams have a shot at it depending on who wins:

USA/CAN/FIN: Ducks, Hurricanes, Canucks
USA/CAN/SVK: Bruins, Blackhawks, Kings, Canucks
USA/FIN/SVK: Sabres, Rangers, Lightning, Canucks
CAN/FIN/SVK: Canucks only

/thanks, Wikipedia
 
2010-02-26 12:22:35 AM  
Do the coaches get medals too? Because then Sabres could count Lindy Ruff too.
 
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