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2010-02-23 03:46:22 AM
I truly believe that it is all dependant on the person. I'm not saying that being able to see every bone beneath the girls skin is hott, because it's NOT!!! But some people just do NOT look good under (or over) a certain weight. I can tell you that I am a female in my early twenties 5'4" and I'm 140lb. If I go under that weight, I look sick. If I'm under 135 I look deathly ill.

It's been stated prior to me, firstly don't let your child look at such hyped up and photo shopped magazine. Explain that one weight will not look good on everybody. Yes, what other people/children say can and will be hurtful, but hell, it's only words... what was it we said in elementary school " I am rubber you are glue. Everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you."

Also for those parents that agree with what I and most of the rest of the farkers are saying but aren't sure how to translate it to your child I can tell you what got me over the skeleton thin appearance. "Who would you want to cuddle up and hug? Somebody that is thin and boney? Or somebody that has a little meat on their bones?" use people that you and your child know. It definitely helped me when I was little, even now when I get a little self conscience of my appearance.
 
2010-02-23 04:15:28 AM
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This hag will gladly help them reach their goal.
 
2010-02-23 04:25:58 AM
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2010-02-23 04:27:21 AM
HPSpyk: Yes, what other people/children say can and will be hurtful, but hell, it's only words... what was it we said in elementary school" I am rubber you are glue. Everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you."

I don't mean to offend you or anything, but I really feel that statement is coming from someone who really didn't have to put up with it a lot while growing up, or someone who relied on another factor in life to rise above it (usually friends and a normal level of popularity).

While the words only have the power one gives to them, the social exclusion that stems from verbal harassment/teasing/bullying/whatever can be pretty destructive and have long lasting impacts in a persons life.

I had to put up with shait from elementary through high school and, unsurprisingly, it shaped a large portion of how I interacted with people. Now that I'm in college, I'm beginning to understand the implications of this, and I've noticed that I am essentially learning to be more extroverted.

Also:
RainbeauxSue: Teach your kids not to be bastards to other people. Please.

THIS
 
2010-02-23 04:35:09 AM
My 6 yr old started going to drama school this year.
On the first day we went a group of 8 year olds were hugging outside and talking about their holidays when another girl turned up. They ran towards her and the first thing out of their mouths was 'Oh my God look at you, you look amazing, have you lost weight?'. They all then started talking about how they'd been trying really hard over Christmas not to eat any puddings and how they absolutely refused to eat the chocolates they were given etc etc.
Luckily my daughter has no issues with food and weight. She knows eating two much sugary fatty food is unhealthy and eating fruit and vegetables is healthy, no other emphasis has been put on it. I
 
2010-02-23 04:38:07 AM
THIS JUST IN, KIDS ARE STUPID

This is Ric Romero, reporting.
 
2010-02-23 04:41:19 AM
Efferus X: Anyways, if female youth stopped having toys pushed onto them telling them they need to be thinner to be attractive and likable, this kind of shiat wouldn't be happening.

We have no one else to blame but ourselves as a collective society.


God I'm tired. I read that sentence three times and my mind changed "onto" to "into" the first two times.
 
2010-02-23 04:51:44 AM
Go for it. What's holding you back, except that delicious, tasty food? You don't want that delicious, tasty food. Even enjoying it is evil. Thin! The payoff is worth it!
 
2010-02-23 05:01:22 AM
smooshie: Is anyone actually attracted to super-skinny (like anorexic) females? If not, why does the media continue to peddle it as the ideal body shape, and if so, I hate you, I don't like fapping to skeletons dammit.

What percentage of the fashion industry is run by gay men?
 
2010-02-23 05:14:13 AM
Ow My Balls
By that logic, straight guys will only work with men who look effeminate?
 
2010-02-23 05:16:56 AM
Ow My Balls: smooshie: Is anyone actually attracted to super-skinny (like anorexic) females? If not, why does the media continue to peddle it as the ideal body shape, and if so, I hate you, I don't like fapping to skeletons dammit.

What percentage of the fashion industry is run by gay men?


It's gay men telling women (incorrectly) how to attract guys so more men will go gay. Or is it that the lack of curves on women tend to make them look more like men and gay guys like that look?
 
2010-02-23 05:30:50 AM
Epsilon: cksewell: Six-year old British girls should have better role models.

They need less Amy Winehouse and more Kate Winslet. This is a nice body, and she ain't super-skinny:


Could have picked an image that hasn't had the shiat 'shopped out of it, making her look skinnier.

Here's one from Sunday.
img52.imageshack.us
 
2010-02-23 05:33:31 AM
Age six is way too young to be thinking about that sort of thing. So much can happen with your body when you grow up.

When I was a child, I was slightly overweight (according to the doctor). Then suddenly one summer I grew so much that my body sort of evened out and I was no longer fat.
 
2010-02-23 05:47:29 AM
Romero: adults are dumbasses, stressed parents even more so.
 
2010-02-23 05:49:11 AM
So I says to Mabel: Age six is way too young to be thinking about that sort of thing. So much can happen with your body when you grow up.

When I was a child, I was slightly overweight (according to the doctor). Then suddenly one summer I grew so much that my body sort of evened out and I was no longer fat.


You sound justifiably fat.
 
2010-02-23 05:56:20 AM
FTFA:

Last week it was reported that five-year-old Lucy Davis, 3st 9lbs, had been classed as "unhealthily fat" by NHS doctors in Poole, Dorset because she was one per cent over her ideal Body Mass Index.


Talk about a slow news day...
 
2010-02-23 05:56:23 AM
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2010-02-23 06:01:31 AM
Maybe, in our obese times, 49.5% of the children are actually fat.
 
2010-02-23 06:23:37 AM
rebelyell2006: I was the fat girl in grade school and junior high. I legitimately threatened to kill myself in the fifth grade. The only reason I never had the balls to try it was that I was lucky enough to have amazing, loving parents whom I knew would be devastated if I had, and I couldn't bear putting them through that.

Life IS pain, highness.
 
2010-02-23 06:37:03 AM
I'd imagine it'd be the half that are still virgins.
 
2010-02-23 06:42:22 AM
I had a super skinny girl once, was painful (as too what, were keeping this family friendly :P).

No thanks, I prefer women with curves.
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Back to the subject at hand..
6-year old worrying that much about being skinny.
EVERYONE should take the blame for that one!!
Television that makes fun of females of size.
Magazines that push the popularity and "correctness" of being skinny.
Perfectly healthy women appearing on TV commercials stating they need to lose weight and saying they feel fat simply because they weigh slightly over 100 pounds (the big offense).
Us guys who publicly verbally-slam women who gain ANY weight. People in general for being soo f'ing shallow we make stupid comments about other people in general and DON'T pay any attention to who's around us listening (I.E. our kids).
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/I love my nearly 200 pound wife, she has a beautiful face, she is VERY caring / giving. She is well aware she needs to lose weight (for health reasons AND NOT public image).

So, when we have 6-year old girls spewing this non-sense. Everyone should be ashamed!!

/end rant!!
 
2010-02-23 06:53:40 AM
funkyflashfive: rebelyell2006: I was the fat girl in grade school and junior high. I legitimately threatened to kill myself in the fifth grade. The only reason I never had the balls to try it was that I was lucky enough to have amazing, loving parents whom I knew would be devastated if I had, and I couldn't bear putting them through that.

Life IS pain, highness.


You quoted the words of the person I quoted, while you left out what I typed in. I didn't type that out. I'm not a fat little girl.
 
2010-02-23 06:53:53 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't also very common here in the US. To give an example of why I say this: for the past few months, I have posted a picture of the front cover of Woman's World on Facebook. Every copy has two things. A huge headline telling you how you can lose weight. And a picture of cakes or muffins or pies at the bottom of the page.

Every week, millions of kids and parents line up a a supermarket checkout, waiting to have the groceries tallied and bagged. Standing right next to the new copy of Woman's World.
 
2010-02-23 06:54:27 AM
The mother of six-year-old Saffron Davis, who opted for the thinnest image

There's the root of the problem - stupid, immature parents who give their kids silly names.
 
2010-02-23 07:00:44 AM
Gussie Fink-Nottle: The mother of six-year-old Saffron Davis, who opted for the thinnest image

There's the root of the problem - stupid, immature parents who give their kids silly names.



Chelsea, Britney, Chantelle, Chardonnay, and Jordan are giving you the evils and are not bovvered.
 
2010-02-23 07:01:09 AM
funkyflashfive:

Life IS pain, highness.


Anyone who tells you different is selling something.
 
2010-02-23 07:03:19 AM
What's wrong with telling them that that is not really important right now, bodies will even out, you're growing too much still and whatnot ? That settled it for my oldest, anyway, and she's got a sweet tooth like nobody else.
 
2010-02-23 07:06:42 AM
Nothing here is really new, it's just that media coverage has intensified. For recorded history it has always been the case that
- Women are strongly motivated by vanity
- Women can be surprisingly biatchy to other women about their appearance
 
2010-02-23 07:15:38 AM
mister aj: - Women can be surprisingly biatchy to other women about their appearance

Well, when so much of your self-worth is rolled up in looks, it makes sense.
 
2010-02-23 07:26:45 AM
Ender's: mister aj: - Women can be surprisingly biatchy to other women about their appearance

Well, when so much of your self-worth is rolled up in looks, it makes sense.


And yet every time a woman is ever discussed on fark for any reason, the comments are always about whether she's hittable. She can be an athlete, a politician, a scientist...doesn't matter: do guys want to sleep with her?

/I know, I sound fat.
 
2010-02-23 07:41:56 AM
bighasbeen: Dear British (and all other) Parents,

Stop letting your 6 year old daughters look at crappy tabloid magazines where all they talk about is physical appearance and they won't care so much. Buy them a chemistry set, a softball mitt, a microscope or a tool set. Give them something else to care about.


This. First, if your kid actually does have extra weight, she'll lose it and become healthy. She'll take pride in what her body can actually do instead of just how it looks compared to 17 year olds. And she'll be too busy actually doing stuff and learning things to be sitting around gossiping with other little biatches in training critiquing what to wear.

My six year old did *not* get the best shake in the genetic bar dice, but I'm getting her exposed to different activities through the rec center -- this cycle it's gymnastics and cheerleading, last was baton and swimming -- plus art, music, and soon volunteer work. We both encourage her to walk and get out and run around by doing it ourselves. She loves veggies and fruit and a variety of foods, so we keep it mixed up. I was concerned when she was three and sick and the doctor said, "well, she's got some extra weight on her so I'm not immediately concerned with her not eating" ?????? but a couple growth spurts later, you can see her ribs when she stretches, but she's still got kid-fat. I figure "so far so good." The next challenges will mostly be helping her see how silly some of her friends' opinions are before the perceived omnicient glow dims from around my head.
 
2010-02-23 07:56:31 AM
Jackpot777: It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't also very common here in the US. To give an example of why I say this: for the past few months, I have posted a picture of the front cover of Woman's World on Facebook. Every copy has two things. A huge headline telling you how you can lose weight. And a picture of cakes or muffins or pies at the bottom of the page.

Every week, millions of kids and parents line up a a supermarket checkout, waiting to have the groceries tallied and bagged. Standing right next to the new copy of Woman's World.


It's amazing how gullible people are to well-targeted marketing efforts to "create" culture. Look at pictures of females at the end of the 19th century and compare them today's scrawny models.

Need more convincing? Do some research on DeBeers and how the created the "tradition" of giving diamonds=true love out of thin air in the 1940s and 1950s. With all the evidence you'll never convince the average female that the "sentimental old timey tradition of diamond engagement rings" was INVENTED by a bunch of cynical, cruel and greedy old Dutchmen and their ad agencies.

Before WW1, underarm deodorants were NOT very common. People just ACCEPTED their fellow humans STINK in hot weather. A few decades of savvy marketing and now you NEVER go out without your speed stick.

I could go on and on. We have had some success with turning back some of the more blatantly exploitative marketing, such as banning tobacco advertising and sponsorship, and rules for marketing to kids. Unfortunately, it usually takes the government to do this. Corporations, generally run by cynical, cruel and greedy old men just don't have the morals to do this themselves.
 
2010-02-23 08:01:06 AM
Ender's: mister aj: - Women can be surprisingly biatchy to other women about their appearance

Well, when so much of your self-worth is rolled up in looks, it makes sense.

Not necessarily. Rather than bringing others down to make yourself look better, what's wrong with self improvement?

Feeling the urge to talk about a slightly plump co-worker behind her back? Try hitting the gym yourself so your self-esteem is high enough that you don't need to do that.
 
2010-02-23 08:02:48 AM
Day_Old_Dutchie: Unfortunately, it usually takes the government to do this. Corporations, generally run by cynical, cruel and greedy old men just don't have the morals to do this themselves.

While true, that's also the problem with turning the job over to government. People assume that the government is actually doing the job of protecting them, and so they stop thinking for themselves. Then, the very companies that the government is supposed to be protecting you from write the laws which the government then passes. It would be better if people accepted a bit more responsibility for their safety themselves. I know, I know, that's not going to happen.
 
2010-02-23 08:04:59 AM
I would guess that they are picking up on their mother's or sister's body image problems.

I think that at some point every girl sees their mother obsess over a little weight gain and gets the mindset that they have to be thinner too.
 
2010-02-23 08:11:28 AM
www.brandonberndt.com
 
2010-02-23 08:14:58 AM
Hooray to farkers for the first intelligent thread having anything to do with weight, in any context, I've ever read to date. You even resisted posting the McDonald's kid pic (so far) :[
 
2010-02-23 08:23:26 AM
www.theonion.com


It's nice to see that they are starting at a young age.
 
2010-02-23 08:31:48 AM
fromafar: Hooray to farkers for the first intelligent thread having anything to do with weight, in any context, I've ever read to date. You even resisted posting the McDonald's kid pic (so far) :[

Knowing a few ex- and current fatties, where is intelligence involved here? The more food you eat without burning it off the fatter you get. This isn't a hard concept. It's plus and minus and most people get that. If your children don't they're retarded and you should seek help - it's simple arithmetic.
 
2010-02-23 08:37:21 AM
Well, considering one in four British children is overweight (new window), at least half of them are correct.

The other half probably need a sammich.
 
2010-02-23 08:39:23 AM
SpeckledJim:
Knowing a few ex- and current fatties, where is intelligence involved here? The more food you eat without burning it off the fatter you get. This isn't a hard concept. It's plus and minus and most people get that. If your children don't they're retarded and you should seek help - it's simple arithmetic.

That's certainly the correct mechanics of it, but it's hardly as simple as you make out. Quickly now, tell me how many kcal you ingest a day, and how many you burn? I'll let you round to the nearest whole kcal. You should be able to tell us, because you're not retarded, right?

Dieters don't and can't do it based on pure mathematics. It's a matter of changing habits that might have been entrenched for years.
 
2010-02-23 08:45:41 AM
mister aj: SpeckledJim:
Knowing a few ex- and current fatties, where is intelligence involved here? The more food you eat without burning it off the fatter you get. This isn't a hard concept. It's plus and minus and most people get that. If your children don't they're retarded and you should seek help - it's simple arithmetic.
That's certainly the correct mechanics of it, but it's hardly as simple as you make out. Quickly now, tell me how many kcal you ingest a day, and how many you burn? I'll let you round to the nearest whole kcal. You should be able to tell us, because you're not retarded, right?

Dieters don't and can't do it based on pure mathematics. It's a matter of changing habits that might have been entrenched for years.


I ingest enough to sustain myself and not get noticeably fatter. Heavier a week later? Eat less.

I realize the addiction aspect of it is hard (I have my own) but the mechanics of it is simple and requires willpower and belief in self, not intelligence.
 
2010-02-23 08:52:30 AM
SpeckledJim:
I ingest enough to sustain myself and not get noticeably fatter. Heavier a week later? Eat less.

You're serious? To be honest, that seems a little bit obsessive. Bear in mind that if your daily intake goes up, you don't keep growing indefinitely; the body reaches an equilibrium (even fat cells consume calories to stay alive). I know my own eating habits changed a couple of years ago, and my weight has gone up by a couple of kg and stayed there, so I'm not bothered.

I realize the addiction aspect of it is hard (I have my own) but the mechanics of it is simple and requires willpower and belief in self, not intelligence.
"Addiction" is probably the best way of looking at it, even if technically it's not. The really annoying aspect of it being an addiction is that you can hardly cold turkey safely ;-)
 
2010-02-23 08:54:33 AM
Also, reading back over the last few comments, I don't think the reference to this being an "intelligent" thread was about dieting techniques. It was more related to social attitudes; fromafar is correct to observe that this is probably one of the least obnoxious threads on weight you'll find on Fark. Yes, letting yourself get overweight is avoidable and foolish, but rudeness and bullying is inexcusable.
 
2010-02-23 09:07:42 AM
mister aj: SpeckledJim:
I ingest enough to sustain myself and not get noticeably fatter. Heavier a week later? Eat less.
You're serious? To be honest, that seems a little bit obsessive. Bear in mind that if your daily intake goes up, you don't keep growing indefinitely; the body reaches an equilibrium (even fat cells consume calories to stay alive). I know my own eating habits changed a couple of years ago, and my weight has gone up by a couple of kg and stayed there, so I'm not bothered.

I realize the addiction aspect of it is hard (I have my own) but the mechanics of it is simple and requires willpower and belief in self, not intelligence.
"Addiction" is probably the best way of looking at it, even if technically it's not. The really annoying aspect of it being an addiction is that you can hardly cold turkey safely ;-)


I dunno, it pays to be obsessive if you finally realize you're a fatty, it bothers you being a fatty and you decide to do something about it.

In my experience people who are overweight simply EAT TOO MUCH. Watch them. The ones who do succeed in clawing back to a somewhat normal weight just have a little discipline. Close your mouth, box up half of that huge portion and have it for lunch tomorrow. Once again this doesn't require a huge brain, just the will to do it.
 
2010-02-23 09:11:43 AM
Good, how else will I fit 21 one of them in my king size bed?
 
2010-02-23 09:11:53 AM
Asa Phelps: Maybe half of britain's 6 year old girls are fat?

My thoughts, as expressed before I arrived.

/this
 
2010-02-23 09:14:29 AM
SpeckledJim:
I dunno, it pays to be obsessive if you finally realize you're a fatty, it bothers you being a fatty and you decide to do something about it.

I've not been there, so I was probably being insensitive to you, sorry. I'm fortunate in that I was raised with fairly good eating and exciting habits that are second-nature, so it's not something I have to keep reminding myself about regularly.

On the subject of raising people right ... I want to farking throttle parents that relentlessly teach their kids to clean their plates even when they're not hungry any more. Guess what gramps, rationing is long over, we have a surplus. But no, too late, you've now got adults to whom finishing a whole plate of whatever they've been given is as reflexive as breathing.
 
2010-02-23 09:15:23 AM
^ D'oh. For "exciting" read "exercising". An obvious slip ... I find my current exercise regime exciting :-).
 
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2010-02-23 09:15:59 AM
smooshie: Is anyone actually attracted to super-skinny (like anorexic) females? If not, why does the media continue to peddle it as the ideal body shape, and if so, I hate you, I don't like fapping to skeletons dammit.

I think Kate Moss is pretty damn looking for a twig.
 
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