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2010-02-22 08:27:30 AM
I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.
 
2010-02-22 08:29:52 AM
img18.imageshack.us
 
2010-02-22 08:32:19 AM
Finally a woman driver doing something good. Now people can cross the creek!
 
2010-02-22 09:08:05 AM
jehovahs witness protection: I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.


But, she'll be a woman soon.

/soon, she'll need a man
 
2010-02-22 10:01:04 AM
Just what fark needs, another troll.
 
2010-02-22 10:21:21 AM
Approves

www.emmitsburg.net


/Oblig
 
2010-02-22 10:22:02 AM
Sybarite: jehovahs witness protection: I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.


But, she'll be a woman soon.

/soon, she'll need a man


She'll come take your hand.

/what the hell is a berm?
 
2010-02-22 10:22:45 AM
jehovahs witness protection: I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.

She sure drives like one.
 
2010-02-22 10:23:18 AM
Complete with Troll?
 
2010-02-22 10:24:04 AM
Sybarite: jehovahs witness protection: I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.


But, she'll be a woman soon.

/soon, she'll need a man


pedobearpics.com
 
2010-02-22 10:24:45 AM
I am guessing cell phone/texting.
 
2010-02-22 10:24:46 AM
The number of times articles from The Morning Call are featured on this website bothers me. It's almost like we need a Florida-esque "Lehigh Valley" tag.
 
2010-02-22 10:25:44 AM
Fonseca, who was charged with careless driving, was not injured, police said.

Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court. How can they charge her with careless driving, if they didn't SEE her driving carelessly. Maybe a dog ran out in front of her. Maybe someone cut her off. Maybe her car lost traction on ice. None of those examples would constitute careless driving. Cops seem to think that if there is an accident, someone HAS to be cited. It's bullshiat. I'd make the cops PROVE that I was driving carelessly.

That is not to be saying that she WASN'T driving carelessly...she IS a woman, after all.
 
2010-02-22 10:26:10 AM
Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: The number of times articles from The Morning Call are featured on this website bothers me. It's almost like we need a Florida-esque "Lehigh Valley" tag.

I moved here two years ago and this place amazes me on a daily basis.
 
2010-02-22 10:30:58 AM
Yakk: Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: The number of times articles from The Morning Call are featured on this website bothers me. It's almost like we need a Florida-esque "Lehigh Valley" tag.

I moved here two years ago and this place amazes me on a daily basis.


Hi, neighbour!

My company has two offices--one in the Lehigh Valley and one closer to Philly...and it's amazing how different the people in each office are.

But at least I get perogies when I go up to LVO.
 
2010-02-22 10:32:06 AM
Sin_City_Superhero: Fonseca, who was charged with careless driving, was not injured, police said.

Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court. How can they charge her with careless driving, if they didn't SEE her driving carelessly. Maybe a dog ran out in front of her. Maybe someone cut her off. Maybe her car lost traction on ice. None of those examples would constitute careless driving. Cops seem to think that if there is an accident, someone HAS to be cited. It's bullshiat. I'd make the cops PROVE that I was driving carelessly.

That is not to be saying that she WASN'T driving carelessly...she IS a woman, after all.


Probably something she said. In the Lehigh Valley I think it'd be pretty easy to say "a deer jumped out of the woods and I swerved".

Careless driving is just a ticket, though. It's going to cost less than the insurance deductible.
 
2010-02-22 10:34:17 AM
Sin_City_Superhero: Fonseca, who was charged with careless driving, was not injured, police said.

Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court. How can they charge her with careless driving, if they didn't SEE her driving carelessly. Maybe a dog ran out in front of her. Maybe someone cut her off. Maybe her car lost traction on ice. None of those examples would constitute careless driving. Cops seem to think that if there is an accident, someone HAS to be cited. It's bullshiat. I'd make the cops PROVE that I was driving carelessly.

That is not to be saying that she WASN'T driving carelessly...she IS a woman, after all.


True... Should have charged her with failure to maintain control of her vehicle. Pretty easy to uphold that one at traffic court.

Judge: Was your car in a ditch?
Girl: Yes.
Judge: Were you driving?
Girl: Yes.
Judge: I find that you failed to maintain control of your vehicle. $50 plus court costs.

I just sat through 4 hours of traffic court last week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Ya'Rly
//Cool story
 
2010-02-22 10:34:49 AM
OMG, IM IN CREEK. FML.
 
2010-02-22 10:36:32 AM
Round the Curve
 
2010-02-22 10:36:56 AM
Sin_City_Superhero: Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court. How can they charge her with careless driving, if they didn't SEE her driving carelessly. Maybe a dog ran out in front of her. Maybe someone cut her off. Maybe her car lost traction on ice. None of those examples would constitute careless driving. Cops seem to think that if there is an accident, someone HAS to be cited. It's bullshiat. I'd make the cops PROVE that I was driving carelessly.

Dunno about PA, but in WA, traffic tickets (except for reckless driving, negligent driving, and a couple others which actually are misdemeanors), are "infractions", rather than crimes. They've designed the law so all that they have to do is show that its more likely that you committed the infraction than you didn't, and they consider the fact that you lost control of your vehicle to be evidence enough that its likely that you were committing an infraction. (I have no idea what "careless driving" is though, I don't believe we have that here in WA.. Just reckless and negligent, with reckless being the worse of the two.

Though, IANAL..
 
2010-02-22 10:37:28 AM
Lickety-split
 
2010-02-22 10:41:53 AM
I'm a good driver, dammit!
 
2010-02-22 10:42:04 AM
Sybarite: jehovahs witness protection: I would hardly consider a 17 year old girl a woman.

But, she'll be a woman soon.
/soon, she'll need a man



Not if she keeps driving like that she won't.
 
2010-02-22 10:42:29 AM
But did she have a paddle?
 
2010-02-22 10:46:29 AM
Beautiful Car
 
2010-02-22 10:47:11 AM
Wasn't it?
 
2010-02-22 10:47:50 AM
In other words, "Woman goes for a drive."

I kid! I kid!
 
2010-02-22 10:48:31 AM
Burma-Shave
 
2010-02-22 10:49:16 AM
I smell female car related incident trifecta brewing ...
 
2010-02-22 10:49:47 AM
I did a GIS for "good woman driver" and it yielded no results.

/lighten up, Francine
 
2010-02-22 10:50:13 AM
Careless driving here in PA is tacked onto just about every accident. Hard to disprove careless driving when your car is wrapped around a tree or stuck in a creek.
 
2010-02-22 10:51:19 AM
what an efficient beaver!
 
2010-02-22 10:53:02 AM
clipperbox: what an efficient beaver!

Dam misogyny?
 
2010-02-22 10:55:03 AM
Woman loses control of car.
Stop the presses!



/presses fail to stop as woman hits gas instead of break
 
2010-02-22 10:56:11 AM
break. jesus.
Post invalid due to spelling error.
 
2010-02-22 10:59:09 AM
What a horrific accident. It's a miracle anyone survived.
 
2010-02-22 10:59:28 AM
Sin_City_Superhero: Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court.

Generally speaking, you'd lose. It's one of those guilty by default infractions. Usually, if there's a circumstance that's even remotely predictable and you didn't account for it, then you are by definition at fault. If you are going too fast to react to a deer, ice, murderer with pickax, dog, other car, pedestrian, drunken ditch swerving in front of you, trees jumping out, etc, you are by definition going too fast for "conditions".

Usually the only way to get out of those kinds of tickets is to plea to something else that you can get excused. For example, perhaps you were driving safely, but it turns out it were "driving an unsafe vehicle" and can get that reduced and thrown out by the DA. (Or whatever the similar is in your state)
 
2010-02-22 11:03:39 AM
Must be nice to live somewhere where a car in a ditch is front page news, instead of the big city where a minimum of a double homicide (or pretty white female murder) is required for front page coverage. I am envious, really.
 
2010-02-22 11:06:27 AM
Poppyale: I'm a good driver, dammit!

Uh oh... 15 minutes to Wapner.
 
2010-02-22 11:10:13 AM
I NEVER understood the "women are bad drivers" thing. Insurance companies charge women drivers less than men, because statistically, they are less likely to cause an accident or need to file a claim. This suggests that they are better drivers. I also know that of all of my friends and family I ride in a car with on a regular basis, the men scare me more than the women ever do, and the 2 best drivers I know are women. One's my wife. So tell me... where does this dumb stereotype come from? If there's evidence out there of it being valid, I've not seen it. And "anecdote" doesn't equal "data." So don't post the pic of the lady standing near her Honda that's caught between the boat and the dock, or the BMW with the gas pump hose attached to it (you get no indication as to the sex of that driver anyway, other than the caption which was added long after that pic first appeared) Besides, there's lots of examples of male drivers doing incredibly dumb things. The 2 cars jammed in between 2 toll booths, for example.
 
2010-02-22 11:10:54 AM
doubled99: Woman loses control of car.
Stop the presses!


/presses fail to stop as woman hits gas instead of break


Presses eventually stop on their own from lack of maintenance.
 
2010-02-22 11:13:07 AM
statistically, they are less likely to cause an accident or need to file a claim


This does not address the accidents they CAUSE.
 
2010-02-22 11:15:29 AM
Escalator is temporarily stairs.

We apologize for the convenience.
 
2010-02-22 11:18:39 AM
EZ Writer: Sin_City_Superhero: Fonseca, who was charged with careless driving, was not injured, police said.

Unless the cops actually saw the accident with their own eyes, I believe I'd fight that charge in court. How can they charge her with careless driving, if they didn't SEE her driving carelessly. Maybe a dog ran out in front of her. Maybe someone cut her off. Maybe her car lost traction on ice. None of those examples would constitute careless driving. Cops seem to think that if there is an accident, someone HAS to be cited. It's bullshiat. I'd make the cops PROVE that I was driving carelessly.

That is not to be saying that she WASN'T driving carelessly...she IS a woman, after all.

True... Should have charged her with failure to maintain control of her vehicle. Pretty easy to uphold that one at traffic court.

Judge: Was your car in a ditch?
Girl: Yes.
Judge: Were you driving?
Girl: Yes.
Judge: I find that you failed to maintain control of your vehicle. $50 plus court costs.

I just sat through 4 hours of traffic court last week, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Ya'Rly
//Cool story


That's how it works here in Florida (ha, I know). I caused an accident by going around a corner right after a brief shower and slid into the oncoming lane and sideswiped a car.

The officer who handed me the ticket basically put it as I got the careless driving ticket due to the fact that I was unable to maintain control of the car and the proof was in the fact that I hit another car. The only redeeming fact was that the officer understood the corner that caused the crash and offered to vouch on my behalf that maintain control would have been hard to do (there were other road conditions that made the corner suck more).

I just ended up taking an online class, bla, bla. Didn't feel the officer was going to speak up for me.

/the ended up redoing that intersection.
//Put a light there
///Heck, now that I think of it they probably did that about a year after that accident!
 
2010-02-22 11:21:31 AM
Prosecutor: Ma'am, you crashed.
Woman: Yes.
Defense: Do you care?
Woman: Yes.
Jury Foreman: Mi'Lord ("your honor" in Canada), we find the defendant not guilty of driving carelessly.
Queen's Bench: Ma'am, you may go. Slow down a bit, it's winter.
 
2010-02-22 11:23:59 AM
Greek: I NEVER understood the "women are bad drivers" thing. Insurance companies charge women drivers less than men, because statistically, they are less likely to cause an accident or need to file a claim.

As I understand it, the argument is that women have more accidents but are less likely to total a car with injuries which is where the bucks go.
 
2010-02-22 11:25:48 AM
MonstarMike: I just ended up taking an online class, bla, bla. Didn't feel the officer was going to speak up for me.

Sincere question: Insurance make you squeal much for that?
 
2010-02-22 11:27:00 AM
Strik3r: statistically, they are less likely to cause an accident or need to file a claim

This does not address the accidents they CAUSE.


How does this not address the accidents that they cause? Statistically, women are less likely to cause accidents! Therefore, their insurance tends to be lower! If you're involved in an accident in which someone else is at fault, it doesn't count against you for insurance purposes. Why? because the actions of the other person caused the accident. Statistics on accidents have shown that female drivers cause fewer accidents than males do. How does my original statement address anything OTHER than the accidents women cause?
 
2010-02-22 11:32:35 AM
Greek:
www.ralphmag.org

I know your wife has a handle and you don't want her to get mad at you I can read between the lines ;)
 
2010-02-22 11:35:14 AM
Greek: claim. This suggests that they are better drivers. I also know that of all of my friends and family I ride in a car with on a regular basis, the men scare me more than the women ever do, and the 2 best drivers I know are women. One's my wife. So tell me... where does this dumb stereotype come from? If there's evidence out there of it being valid, I've not seen it. And "anecdote" doesn't equal "data." So don't post the pic of the lady standing near her Honda that's caught between the boat and the dock, or the BMW with the gas pump hose attached to it (you get no indication as to the sex of that driver anyway, other than the caption which was added long after that pic first appeared) Besides, there's lots of examples of male drivers doing incredibly dumb things. The 2 cars jammed in between 2 toll booths, for example.

You sound gay metrosexual. Women do not know how to drive, period
 
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