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(New York Daily News)   Anti-anxiety drugs are addictive. EVERYBODY PANIC attack   (nydailynews.com) divider line 179
    More: PSA, anti-anxiety drugs, xanax, neurotransmitters, dopamine, Valium, pathways, benzodiazepines, heroin  
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2010-02-16 02:20:10 PM  
people get addicted to things that calm or sedate them? when did we find this out?
 
rmz
2010-02-16 02:24:49 PM  
Next you'll tell me people can get addicted to painkillers.
 
2010-02-16 02:27:40 PM  
I'm eating adavan with a vicodin chaser while smoking a joint, so i'm really getting a.... wait, where was i going with this? Who are you people? Where am I? Whoa... check out those lights.... you people are so nice...
 
2010-02-16 02:34:25 PM  
My ex-wife's doc told her that 15 years ago when he prescribed them to her for anxiety attacks. He said no more than a month, and only take them when absolutely necessary.
 
2010-02-16 02:37:31 PM  
"Hello? Research grants for the blindingly obvious? Yes, I'd like to study the effects of decapitation on a person's lifespan".
 
2010-02-16 02:48:37 PM  
"Popular anti-anxiety drugs like Valium and Xanax have something in common with heroin and cannabis..."

When did cannabis suddenly become an addictive drug?
 
2010-02-16 02:51:49 PM  
still no vaccine for FARK
 
2010-02-16 02:53:48 PM  
PacManDreaming: "Popular anti-anxiety drugs like Valium and Xanax have something in common with heroin and cannabis..."

When did cannabis suddenly become an addictive drug?


Apparently at the same time I moved back to Oregon.

Hi Yo!
 
2010-02-16 02:56:12 PM  
Meh. Who cares.
 
2010-02-16 03:09:51 PM  
According to the Daily Mail, Valium and Xanax, well-known medications in the benzodiazepine class of drugs, boost the action of a neurotransmitter in the brain, which activates the gratification hormone known as dopamine. This is the same "reward pathway" that illegal drugs, such as heroin and cannabis, activate.


They open your brain and pour in a cup of rainbows!
 
2010-02-16 03:21:52 PM  
According to the Daily Mail, Valium and Xanax, well-known medications in the benzodiazepine class of drugs, boost the action of a neurotransmitter in the brain, which activates the gratification hormone known as dopamine. This is the same "reward pathway" that illegal drugs, such as heroin and cannabis, activate.

Sadly for the Daily Mail according to anyone that has a farking clue this is not the case.

They are GABA agonists you tard. And neither of the other two have a direct impact on dopamine either.
 
2010-02-16 03:30:09 PM  
You know cannabis actually helps some people with anxiety, or ADD or ADHD or autism. Without the addictiveness, without the liver problems, without the side effects.

This article is a lousy propoganda piece.
 
2010-02-16 03:31:48 PM  
Cannabis doesn't exactly have the "reward pathways" as much as it utilizes the consumer's endocannabinoid system.
 
2010-02-16 04:03:28 PM  
jonasborg: Cannabis doesn't exactly have the "reward pathways" as much as it utilizes the consumer's endocannabinoid system.

Shhh! Who needs medical facts! POT IS TEH EVIL!
 
2010-02-16 04:06:55 PM  
I keep hearing about this "Pot" thing, apparently also called "cannabis", "weed", "marijuana" or "chowdah". I shall have to investigate it.
 
2010-02-16 04:22:32 PM  
question_dj: jonasborg: Cannabis doesn't exactly have the "reward pathways" as much as it utilizes the consumer's endocannabinoid system.

Shhh! Who needs medical facts! POT IS TEH EVIL!


ZOMBIE ASSLINGER WANTS BRAINS, AND A JOINT...
 
2010-02-16 04:29:47 PM  
PacManDreaming: "Popular anti-anxiety drugs like Valium and Xanax have something in common with heroin and cannabis..."

When did cannabis suddenly become an addictive drug?


it didn't, but that's the official party line. remember - to the dedicated drug warrior, facts are completely irrelevant. In their view, cannabis is exactly the same as heroin. Despite the fact that anyone who's ever gotten more than a 'C' in high school chemistry class knows that's a blatant lie, that's what we tell people. we lie about drugs because...well...nobody's really sure anymore.
 
2010-02-16 04:30:59 PM  
SushiJoe: people get addicted to things that calm or sedate them? when did we find this out?

yeah...

done in one.
 
2010-02-16 04:31:51 PM  
I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.
 
2010-02-16 04:41:34 PM  
mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.

The fact that cannabis is Schedule I utterly floors me. i'm not a chemist or doctor...but geez, NOTHING in any of the chemistry of cannabis comes even close to the requirements for Schedule I. ok, *maybe* you could make a case for Schedule IV or V, but not Schedule I. Christ - even cocaine is Schedule II.
 
2010-02-16 04:56:05 PM  
Don't you dare touch my particular .....zepam.
 
2010-02-16 05:20:51 PM  
mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies.

Then you should probably give your patients with panic disorder a referral...

/Member of MPP
 
2010-02-16 05:50:37 PM  
mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.

I have anxiety and marijuana makes it much worse. I'm always curious about those with anxiety that smoke it for its soothing effects.
 
2010-02-16 05:52:29 PM  
Biggs: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies.

Then you should probably give your patients with panic disorder a referral...

/Member of MPP


Of course, I hyperbolize, but there are lots of other options besides xanax. When used sparingly, it's fine. When used regularly, it's a disaster. It's withdrawal induces panic attacks. Brilliant.

/
 
2010-02-16 05:55:11 PM  
mysticcat: Biggs: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies.

Then you should probably give your patients with panic disorder a referral...

/Member of MPP

Of course, I hyperbolize, but there are lots of other options besides xanax. When used sparingly, it's fine. When used regularly, it's a disaster. It's withdrawal induces panic attacks. Brilliant.

/


wait...so, you take Xanax to control/stop panic attacks...but if you stop taking Xanax, one of your withdrawl systems is to have a panic attack?

how did that ever get past the FDA?!
 
2010-02-16 05:55:33 PM  
coco ebert: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.

I have anxiety and marijuana makes it much worse. I'm always curious about those with anxiety that smoke it for its soothing effects.


Weed is unusual like that. Its effects differ not so much with dose but with chronicity of use. The more often you smoke, the less it takes to get high and the less intense the paranoia/anxiety and other effects like dry mouth and munchies. The less often you smoke, the more it takes and the more intense the less desirable effects are.
 
2010-02-16 06:02:15 PM  
the constant worry over my anxiety makes me too anxious
 
2010-02-16 06:04:13 PM  
Subby's headline is pure win
 
2010-02-16 06:04:52 PM  
news.3yen.com

"Popular anti-anxiety drugs like Valium and Xanax have something in common with heroin and cannabis..."
 
2010-02-16 06:05:07 PM  
Well, DUH!

That was known 20 years ago when I started on antianxiety drugs.

I took them for a few years, weaned myself off. Now I'm on Xanax twice a day.

/Xanax and pot... no worries mate
 
2010-02-16 06:05:12 PM  
How is this news?

To anyone taking anti-anxiety meds: if your doctor didn't tell you they're addictive, you should probably switch doctors.
 
2010-02-16 06:05:28 PM  
Weaver95: mysticcat: Biggs: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies.

Then you should probably give your patients with panic disorder a referral...

/Member of MPP

Of course, I hyperbolize, but there are lots of other options besides xanax. When used sparingly, it's fine. When used regularly, it's a disaster. It's withdrawal induces panic attacks. Brilliant.

/

wait...so, you take Xanax to control/stop panic attacks...but if you stop taking Xanax, one of your withdrawl systems is to have a panic attack?

how did that ever get past the FDA?!


That's the norm, not the exception. For example, if you take Excedrine for headaches every day for a while, stopping it will cause a headache. If you take blood pressure meds for long enough, stopping them will cause rebound hypertension. Take stimulants for long enough, withdrawal from them will make you tired.
 
ecl
2010-02-16 06:06:03 PM  
mysticcat: coco ebert: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.

I have anxiety and marijuana makes it much worse. I'm always curious about those with anxiety that smoke it for its soothing effects.

Weed is unusual like that. Its effects differ not so much with dose but with chronicity of use. The more often you smoke, the less it takes to get high and the less intense the paranoia/anxiety and other effects like dry mouth and munchies. The less often you smoke, the more it takes and the more intense the less desirable effects are.


lolwut?

If you want to know what its like to smoke and relax, try just chilling at home and smoking.
 
2010-02-16 06:06:36 PM  
Take steroids long enough, stopping them will make your testosterone levels lower than they were to begin with.
 
2010-02-16 06:06:52 PM  
Benzos (Xanax, Atavan, Klonopin, etc) are not only terribly addictive but detoxing from them is very dangerous. Detoxes across the country are filled with people with benzo dependency.

My doctor actually gave me 1mg of Xanax, I never refilled it. All it did for me was make me blackout then passout without any euphoric effects. I am not sure how one even goes about abusing it since it basically just knocks you the f out. Never take that crap before driving.
 
2010-02-16 06:07:19 PM  
coco ebert: I have anxiety and marijuana makes it much worse. I'm always curious about those with anxiety that smoke it for its soothing effects.

Me too. Second time I ever smoked it I had a nearly full blown panic attack. Never touched the stuff again. Different people have different reactions to it. I think just being in an altered state makes my body freak out, as in HOLY SHIAT WHAT THE fark IS GOING ON, PANIC PANIC.

Anyway, worked at a psych hospital for a while during college, everyone on xanax was an addict. I would never prescribe it, either. It's just a hold over from the 'Give your hysterical old lady some valium' school of thought that we haven't gotten rid of yet. On the other hand, when you're on the verge of a panic attack, I'm not sure what else would work as quickly. People are just bad self medicators.
 
2010-02-16 06:08:14 PM  
What's good in life that ISN'T addictive?
 
2010-02-16 06:08:35 PM  
GimpyNip: My doctor actually gave me 1mg of Xanax, I never refilled it

A scrip for 1mg (30 pills)
 
2010-02-16 06:09:06 PM  
The blue one keep me from screamin'...
 
2010-02-16 06:09:41 PM  
Umm, no shiat?
 
2010-02-16 06:10:09 PM  
jonasborg: You know cannabis actually helps some people with anxiety, or ADD or ADHD or autism. Without the addictiveness, without the liver problems, without the side effects.

And...without the risk of autism!

Everybody wins.
 
2010-02-16 06:11:29 PM  
mysticcat: coco ebert: mysticcat: I'm a physician and I would never prescribe xanax except to my enemies. The withdrawal and personality disturbances on that stuff are frightening. Not sure weed is a great anxiolytic either, but I'd much rather my patients smoke that once in a while as opposed to taking xanax. The fact that we can prescribe xanax and oxycontin but not marijuana kills me.

I have anxiety and marijuana makes it much worse. I'm always curious about those with anxiety that smoke it for its soothing effects.

Weed is unusual like that. Its effects differ not so much with dose but with chronicity of use. The more often you smoke, the less it takes to get high and the less intense the paranoia/anxiety and other effects like dry mouth and munchies. The less often you smoke, the more it takes and the more intense the less desirable effects are.


Is that bizarro weed you're talking about? Seriously, I want to switch some of that weed with the weed that my friends smoke. They have to take a break from it once in awhile to make their tolerances go down.
 
2010-02-16 06:11:50 PM  
Glass Joe: What's good in life that ISN'T addictive?

Well said, well said!
 
2010-02-16 06:12:03 PM  
GimpyNip: Benzos (Xanax, Atavan, Klonopin, etc) are not only terribly addictive but detoxing from them is very dangerous. Detoxes across the country are filled with people with benzo dependency.

My doctor actually gave me 1mg of Xanax, I never refilled it. All it did for me was make me blackout then passout without any euphoric effects. I am not sure how one even goes about abusing it since it basically just knocks you the f out. Never take that crap before driving.


THIS. I work as a drug and alcohol rehab counselor and I deal with xanax/benzo addicts on a daily basis. They're usually some of the loopiest, most strung-out people I talk to, and they don't remember anything (including what they said 5 seconds before hand). I also once had a scrip to these and all they did was turn me into a complete zombie. What's the point in getting so "relaxed" you practically have drool coming out the corner of your mouth?
 
2010-02-16 06:12:18 PM  
My brain shut off the second they compared those drugs to heroin *AND* cannabis. Amazing how working for a nationally known paper makes you suddenly go full retard on pot.

You want to compare them to heroin? Go for it. Sure, we'll have a realistic discussion about how C-IV's shouldn't be compared to a C-I drug and all, but once you start throwing in pot, which has similar effects to C-IV's and C-V's and is only C-I because it's illegal (as already stated), it's just opening the door to you being labeled a tard.
 
2010-02-16 06:12:31 PM  
When I was an intern, my resident passed on this pearl:

"There are three things that will tell you straight away a patient is crazy: 1)Multiple drug allergies, 2)Xanax on the med list, 3)Rose colored glasses."

He was right.
 
2010-02-16 06:12:40 PM  
When I was 19 I smoked weed every day for a year. I decided to ween myself off it and that's when my anxiety kicked in. For 4 years I was a mess and constantly had panic attacks. Finally a doctor prescribed Effexor for me and I've been fine ever since. Not sure if the weed's to blame for the start of my anxiety but you never know...
 
2010-02-16 06:12:52 PM  
Smoking can cause cancer.
 
2010-02-16 06:13:11 PM  
jonasborg: You know cannabis actually helps some people with anxiety, or ADD or ADHD or autism. Without the addictiveness, without the liver problems, without the side effects.

This article is a lousy propoganda piece.


The Munchies is a side affect. Thinking stupid shiat is funny is a side affect. Telling the same story over and over is a side affect.
 
2010-02-16 06:13:43 PM  
I have a bottle of Xanax for emergencies. I probably take 2 or so per month. But then, I know better than to treat it like the first go-to for a bad anxiety attack. So far, no addiction.
 
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