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(Seattle Times)   $10/hour Security guard saved hundreds of lives in the basement of WTC 2 - was buried for two hours in rubble   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 39
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2001-09-26 09:19:20 AM
And his employers haven't even tried to call any of the workers since this happened.

Assholes. Hope they don't get the security contract for the next building.
 
2001-09-26 09:26:05 AM
For EVERY hour that EVERY person who survives the WTC attack
was buried alive, we should do the same to OBL one thousand fold!
 
2001-09-26 09:31:32 AM
It's just sad that they feel it's important to mention that he's a high school dropout. Apparently normally people like that don't help others and this is extraordinary.
 
2001-09-26 10:11:29 AM
I think we still need a "Hero" tag.

These stories will be coming out more and more as time progresses.

They are also inspirational, and there are other stories un-related to the WTC tragedy that deserve the "Hero" tag as well.

Common Drew!
 
2001-09-26 10:15:09 AM
The employers may have had their office in the WTC, and so might not have been able to contact him, I dunno.

But anyone who manages a security or rescue or whatever organization that isn't contacting this guy for a job at much higher pay is a FOOL.
 
2001-09-26 10:27:16 AM
 
2001-09-26 10:28:26 AM
Nice one Jax.. damn..

here is the one I had:



I like yours better though :-)
 
2001-09-26 10:28:55 AM
I'm going to find out if there's any way we can financially help this guy. He deserves at least to be able to pay his bills. If I find any information, I'll post it here. If anyone else finds out how to send him a check, post it here also.
 
2001-09-26 10:56:46 AM
Think this guy will get a raise? Probably not.

-he who stacks pork
 
2001-09-26 11:25:04 AM
Labman, before you start railing against his employers, remember that story from a week ago about the Executive who lost nearly his entire workforce in the attack. Family members of employees were calling him up paychecks, and furious when he couldn't provide them. A lot of things have just fallen to pieces.
 
2001-09-26 11:40:53 AM
It's people like this that make this species worth being a part of.
 
2001-09-26 11:49:14 AM
News flash tag
 
2001-09-26 12:19:37 PM
Jax, it looks like the Texas flag, upside down.

For Torres, it was a simple: Duty means putting others' welfare before your own.

How true it is.
 
2001-09-26 01:07:45 PM
Situations like this, I have come to realize, are a showcase for the best and worst parts of humanity.
 
2001-09-26 03:10:07 PM
kickass!, the hero tag!
 
2001-09-26 03:10:51 PM
I agree with Vilainefemme, This guy does something great, yet they still feel the need to call attention to his being a dropout. Obviously, he did well without it (not financially, but morally)

cool tag, by the way
 
2001-09-26 03:15:34 PM
Nice move, security guy. You have restored my faith in humanity.

And so has that nifty nifty tag. Like it!
 
2001-09-26 03:34:12 PM
Go Jax, nice tag!
 
hnb
2001-09-26 03:41:33 PM
Vilainefemme and ScrappyMcGee: I agree completely. I, as a high-shool-kickout (OK, I was a little uncooperative asshole), am offended, although I DID get my GED. I don't see how your diploma affects your humanity.

It reminds me of that old story in The Onion:
"Area Homosexual saves family from fire"
 
2001-09-26 03:56:13 PM
I think the point was to point out that a HS drop out can be capable of heroism and keeping a cool head.

Not "Nice guy - too bad he's an academic failure."

The media has gone about trying to get a deep cross-section of the U.S. banding together to help in the WTC disaster. Sometimes it comes off as condescending to those with smaller incomes, but I don't think that's the intention.
 
2001-09-26 03:56:37 PM
The patriotic tag is indeed fitting, but only under the circumstances...there's heroes in every country(they're just outnumbered by farking morons, just like here in the good ol USA!). A non nation-specific tag would be better. Perhaps metallic gold, with raised or embossed letters?

Also, would "Hero" or "Heroes" be better? "Heroes" is more versatile(like the exalted "boobies" tag).

I can't do jack.....I'm only an idea man. But I'm sure one of you out there can whip up a kickass tag.
 
2001-09-26 03:57:55 PM
Oh, and even though I think a less nation-specific tag would be better....that's still some really nice work, Jax.
 
2001-09-26 04:41:18 PM
Instead of "hero" or "heroes," how about just a "heroic" tag?

No offense Jax, great tag :P
 
2001-09-26 04:54:11 PM
crill: that's what I thought, too. How many times do you think people have said about him or told him that he'd never amount to anything?
Anyway, what a guy. Pleasant thing to read.
 
2001-09-26 05:02:26 PM
"Torres' girlfriend isn't surprised by his actions. 'He always helps people,' said Vivien Vicente. 'I guess you'd call him a gentleman.'"

Girlfriend got herself a real man.

"Heroic" would be appropriate considering the adjectival nature of most Fark tags. Nice tag, Jax.

Give this man a job, somebody!
 
2001-09-26 06:43:30 PM
i farkin hate all this "you won't amount to anything" shiat, i haven't gotten any of it yet, but i know i will as i'm of a philosophical bent and am leaving a great opportunity to go the way of my destiny.

what sort of bullshiat is that anyway? why is society the marker for one's success? it's interesting how more often than not financial success is one of the major standards to be a success in society.

"fark you, fark you, fark you, ur cool, peas, i'm out."

just needed to yell at the amorphous blob of society, then add in this "apology" so i could feel accepted again.

yeah, so.... yeah. he's still a hero even if he doesn't make any money. one person who becomes a financial success is worth nothing compared to he who is poor all his life and writes one poem that inspires millions... who's the failure?

now for my "apology": forgive me my tangential mood.

*the ill*
 
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2001-09-26 07:01:36 PM
A texas flag!?!?! ohh nm, puerto rican flag.
 
2001-09-26 07:13:33 PM
Ok well. Heres my attempt.

 
2001-09-26 07:48:03 PM
But yes, heroic indeed. Its people like him that make me want to be more nice to people. Makes me proud to be an American. I dont know any afghani who would do that. In fact, i dont know any afghanis.
 
2001-09-26 07:51:34 PM
Who made all the other tags? Is it one person? They're a similar style....the same font should be used.

I still think shiny gold with embossed or raised letters would be best. If there isn't enough contrast one could color the surface of the letters and still get the three-dimensional look of the embossing effect...you know what I mean?

And you guys are right, "Heroic" is best.
 
2001-09-26 08:14:13 PM
Embossing is hard as balls when youve got so little space to work with. Gold would be cool, but i think red white and blue would be just spiffy.
 
2001-09-26 08:17:59 PM
Oh yeah. shiat.

Um.....hmm.

I guess I'll shut up now. ^_^;;
 
2001-09-26 08:36:49 PM
Well, i shouldnt say its hard, it only takes 2 clicks in photoshop.. What i mean is its hard to tell that its embossed without a magnifying glass. Its kinda makes things look bad too. Like, i dont know. Just does.
 
2001-09-26 09:52:56 PM
(old fart's tangent warning)

I wanted to drop out of college when I was younger. I didn't and I'm glad I stuck it out. Education is one of the few things in this life that can't be taken from you. Others are courage and integrity.

You may not be learning much in school, but there is far more out there. I didn't realize what I had learned until I realized that my education gave me a framework with which to interpret the world. I don't get swept up by the latest bit of news I hear, and I can see beyond the surface of what I see and hear to interpret what may really be happening.

This guy is a hero, by any measure of the word. His education is irrelevant, and should be left out of the story. But don't pass up the best opportunity you have to prepare yourself for what is out there. The world is confusing, erratic, chaotic, and hard to decipher. It's also not going anywhere.

Best of luck, whatever your decision.

(end of old fart's tangent)
 
2001-09-26 10:49:21 PM
Nice Hero tag!

BTW--Link Hylia, I take it you like Zelda games? I do too, they rock! :)


--Lady Alexandra of Hyrule
 
2001-09-26 10:51:08 PM
no
the texas flag is like this:

and the puerto rico flag is like this:


but the hero tag has the red stripe on top, making it not exactly like the texan flag...which is good, because i almost thought it was saying dubya was a hero. :P
 
2001-09-27 05:52:40 AM
Could this be another verse in the Flight 93 folk song?
 
2001-09-27 03:04:02 PM
High school dropout, $10-an-hour security guard, and I can see why. You won't make it very far in the corporate world without a "me me me me me gimme gimme now!" attitude.
 
2001-09-27 07:50:35 PM
Although no one cares anymore... I just realized all the tags were in capital letters. Im a moron, thanx. Heres my rendition of what the heroic tag should be.

 
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