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(Yahoo)   Microsoft readies new Zune Phone just in time for 2007   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 59
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2010-02-16 12:59:42 AM
I hope it supports all my Plays For Sure DRM-encoded wma songs! If they get that right, this thing is a StarTac-killer!
 
2010-02-16 02:29:46 AM
I suppose somewhere there are 5 people who have been waiting to get FM radio on their phone.
 
2010-02-16 02:30:53 AM
Actually Subby, they're not calling it Zune. Because that would be like Ford calling a new car the Edsel.
 
2010-02-16 02:34:18 AM
syrynxx: I hope it supports all my Plays For Sure DRM-encoded wma songs! If they get that right, this thing is a StarTac-killer!

i629.photobucket.com

Yeah, like Windows can beat that, chicks think I'm Knight Rider.
 
2010-02-16 02:35:30 AM
Thats a really farked up article (and worse headline), given that every other tech site that has seen the thing is raving about it.
 
2010-02-16 02:36:48 AM
It doesn't matter that it's not going to be called the "Zune Phone" by Microsoft. It'll be called that by a lot of people. And that will be its downfall. Either that or the remaining horrible stench from windows mobile. Even if Microsoft only makes the software.
 
2010-02-16 02:36:59 AM
syrynxx: I hope it supports all my Plays For Sure DRM-encoded wma songs! If they get that right, this thing is a StarTac-killer!

Honestly, that's a feature I really like on my Nokia phone. Thanks to their licensing out Microsoft Windows Media DRM, I can use my phone as a music player for Napster subscription tracks. I really don't mind not owning my music when I have thousands of dollars worth of music I can load up on my phone for $15 a month. It's way cheaper than buying CDs or using iTunes.
 
2010-02-16 02:57:20 AM
Can we get an iPhone Killer of the Week tag already? We can shape it exactly like an iPhone.

/does it come in brown?
//lolPre
 
2010-02-16 03:00:39 AM
According to Best Buy the Zune HD 32 that I use does not support PlaysforSure so I don't know if the Windows 7 phone will support that standard. I like my Zune but the iPod is definitely the standard. I despise the itunes software and Apple products tend to explode on me so I went with the Zune.
 
2010-02-16 05:30:20 AM
wildsnowllama: I suppose somewhere there are 5 people who have been waiting to get FM radio on their phone.

I really want FM radio on my phone. I listen to NPR every morning when I bike to work on a $10 RiteAid radio in my backpack. Until 3G data is ubiquitous and far more reliable FM radio will remain relevant.

/to me
 
2010-02-16 06:21:16 AM
Tyler Perry's Windows 7 Zune Phone is a mouth full.
 
2010-02-16 06:36:25 AM
I think it looks good. I'm due for an upgrade now though, and this isn't coming out until the holidays.
 
2010-02-16 06:56:30 AM
It's not a phone dumbass-mitter, it's the new version of Windows Mobile. MS might be building their own phone as well, but currently it's being licensed for new phones running at least a snapdragon cpu.
 
2010-02-16 07:21:25 AM
FTFA: He notes that those who have current Windows phones don't seem excited about the brand - many of them believe their phones are made by Apple or Nokia Corp., according to his firm's research.

What the Hell? How could anyone think their "Windows" phone is made by Apple. Also, doesn't Nokia actually make Windows Mobile devices? This article confuses me.

/But it is very early. Caffeine incoming.
 
2010-02-16 07:35:38 AM
Microsoft "is resolved at a company level to be successful in mobile," Lees said. He indicated Microsoft is willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing to ensure it's successful.

IOW, they plan on releasing a POS and saturating the market with BS about how awesome it is.
 
2010-02-16 08:11:08 AM
Petit_Merdeux: Microsoft "is resolved at a company level to be successful in mobile," Lees said. He indicated Microsoft is willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing to ensure it's successful.

IOW, they plan on releasing a POS and saturating the market with BS about how awesome it is.


That's some serious marketing fail right there. 100 million dollars not well spent. shiat... even if you are spending that much cheese on marketing you don't admit to it... you say we're spending x amount of money on engineering/designers...
 
2010-02-16 08:24:54 AM
gaspode: Thats a really farked up article (and worse headline), given that every other tech site that has seen the thing is raving about it.

I'm with ya. I know it's cool to hate on Microsoft but from Engadget (new window) to Gizmodo (new window) (and others) they are very impressed with the UI and reboot of Windows mobile.

Too bad we have to wait til the holidays to see it in the market. I'm looking to upgrade phone soon and I'm eying the new HTC Desire that comes out in a couple of months.
 
2010-02-16 08:52:20 AM
EnderWigginDA: According to Best Buy the Zune HD 32 that I use does not support PlaysforSure so I don't know if the Windows 7 phone will support that standard.

Sorry, the post must have dropped my sarcasm tag. I was poking fun at Microsoft for championing a DRM standard using their proprietary not-much-better-than-the-defacto-MP3-standard file format, enlisting several industry partners to support the format and distribute the music.....

and then screwing over partners and customers by introducing a new device that doesn't even support PlaysForSure in parallel to their new DRM format. If anything, it was a job-of-the-guy-who-thought-of-this killer.
 
2010-02-16 09:28:06 AM
Somehow I don't think Microsoft has quite figured out that nobody wants a Zune anything or even just a Zune.
 
2010-02-16 10:06:44 AM
Microsoft is ridiculous. They wouldn't know innovation if it sat on their face. They have tons of equity and software, so they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, but they won't be changing the way things are done either.
 
2010-02-16 10:13:43 AM
Submitter doesn't know the difference between hardware and software. That's pretty stupid.

Windows Mobile 7 looks awesome.
 
2010-02-16 10:19:09 AM
so replace silly with awesome and we're set.
 
2010-02-16 10:26:54 AM
kregh99: Somehow I don't think Microsoft has quite figured out that nobody wants a Zune anything or even just a Zune.

Huh. I love my Zune 30 gig. I don't have to have my MP3's in a different format, it plays movies just fine for when I'm going on a trip, the interface doesn't annoy me. What's seriously not to like about it?

How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.

/it helps that I got the deal of a lifetime for mine on ebay. Some goy was selling one that he got as a gift (he already had an iPod) and I paid somethign like $45. CSB
 
2010-02-16 10:53:56 AM
Huh. I love my Zune 30 gig. I don't have to have my MP3's in a different format, it plays movies just fine for when I'm going on a trip, the interface doesn't annoy me. What's seriously not to like about it?

How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.


Seconded, I love my Zune 120 and I show it to all my friends who have iPod Classics and after showing them all mine does, they think it's amazing. Of course they are all still brainwashed Apple sheep, but whatever.
 
2010-02-16 11:03:49 AM
I've gone from Android to iPhone, and I have to say the new Windows Mobile 7 looks fantastic. I'm eager to try it out and see how it compares.
 
2010-02-16 11:15:04 AM
GameSprocket: FTFA: He notes that those who have current Windows phones don't seem excited about the brand - many of them believe their phones are made by Apple or Nokia Corp., according to his firm's research.

What the Hell? How could anyone think their "Windows" phone is made by Apple. Also, doesn't Nokia actually make Windows Mobile devices? This article confuses me.

/But it is very early. Caffeine incoming.


No, Nokia uses the unfortunately named Symbian OS (which is getting a much needed update this year), and the Linux based Maemo OS. Nokia smartphones have never been popular in the US, but they are the #1 manufacturer of smartphones around the world, with 39% global marketshare in 2009. For comparison, Blackberry is close with 20% global marketshare and Windows Mobile is in the single digits.

The vast majority of the Win Mo phones you see are manufactured by HTC, although they have recently gotten into Android in a big way.
 
2010-02-16 11:19:06 AM
ZipSplat: wildsnowllama: I suppose somewhere there are 5 people who have been waiting to get FM radio on their phone.

I really want FM radio on my phone. I listen to NPR every morning when I bike to work on a $10 RiteAid radio in my backpack. Until 3G data is ubiquitous and far more reliable FM radio will remain relevant.

/to me


They are also really useful because a lot of gyms broadcast the audio from their TVs via FM transmitter.
 
Ant
2010-02-16 11:19:08 AM
kregh99: Somehow I don't think Microsoft has quite figured out that nobody wants a Zune anything or even just a Zune.

I like my Zune 120. Unfortunately, the drive died and it's being repaired/replaced right now. I should have it back in a couple days.
 
Ant
2010-02-16 11:21:22 AM
Orgasmatron138: How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.

The only advantage the iPod has is more 3rd party support. I've had both. I like the Zune's screen better, but I wish it had as many available accessories as the iPod.
 
2010-02-16 11:22:36 AM
I have never felt the need to get an MP3 player that costs more than $20. If I did, though, I would probably go with the Zune, because I have heard such great things about the interface.
Bring on the Zune Phone.
 
2010-02-16 11:30:29 AM
Microsoft should be very worried about the iPhone and Android. I think we've reached the point where computers are 'fast enough', and now the trend is to make computers small enough to fit in the pocket. My iphone is faster than the first computer I had, and my needs haven't really changed all thatmuch over the years. Apple has basically shown that with multi-touch you can do basically the same thing as a full blown computer.

There is eventually going to be a dominant mobile platform for applications, and this is going to be the windows of the the small device world.

The whole idea that these are phones is a misnomer. They are pocket computers with a nice wireless modem in them...and this is going to be the trend for computers in the coming years. MS definitely doesn't want to lose it's spot as the owner of the OS, which unfortunately is where things are headed for them.
 
2010-02-16 11:34:23 AM
Ant: Orgasmatron138: How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.

The only advantage the iPod has is more 3rd party support. I've had both. I like the Zune's screen better, but I wish it had as many available accessories as the iPod.


Ah, accessories. I've got the ones I need - the armband, the line out cables, etc. I did have to send away, though - the local best Buy didn't stock any of it. I did get better prices on ebay anyway, though.

What I'd love to get for flying are the glasses that make it look like you're in the theater. That'd be sweet.
 
2010-02-16 11:35:22 AM
Ant: Orgasmatron138: How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.

The only advantage the iPod has is more 3rd party support. I've had both. I like the Zune's screen better, but I wish it had as many available accessories as the iPod.


I switched recently when my old Zune 80gb broke to the Ipod (nano). I must say that I really prefer the Zune interface to the iPod's, tough. And I cannot stand iTunes!
 
2010-02-16 11:47:58 AM
Funny enough, I've only seen a grand total of 3 Zunes outside of stores. Are owners ashamed of the. And just hiding them?
 
2010-02-16 12:25:24 PM
I guess you could consider me an Apple guy. We have a few different Macs in our household, as well as assorted iPods, and we're pretty happy with them.

That said, when it came time for me to buy a smartphone recently, I got a Palm Pre. The iPhone is just not going to be in consideration as long as they are sticking with AT&T only. AT&T sucks. I wanted to stay with Verizon.

But I'm happy with my purchase. I love the Pre user interface.
 
2010-02-16 12:39:05 PM
Tobin_Lam: Funny enough, I've only seen a grand total of 3 Zunes outside of stores. Are owners ashamed of the. And just hiding them?

I love my 80gb Zune. I've only seen one other person who has a Zune though. Who cares? It works great and MP3s stay MP3s. I just bought my wife an 8gb for $70. It does the exact same thing as the $150 8gb Nano.
 
2010-02-16 12:40:46 PM
gaspode: Thats a really farked up article (and worse headline), given that every other tech site that has seen the thing is raving about it.

Really? Where? I saw no raves at CNET and no coverage at all at SlashDot. Stopped looking after that.

/I wonder whose signature is on gaspode's paycheck
 
2010-02-16 12:57:58 PM
SomebodyElsesShoes: Ant: Orgasmatron138: How does an iPod really beat a Zune in anything but marketing? Not trolling, serious question.

The only advantage the iPod has is more 3rd party support. I've had both. I like the Zune's screen better, but I wish it had as many available accessories as the iPod.

I switched recently when my old Zune 80gb broke to the Ipod (nano). I must say that I really prefer the Zune interface to the iPod's, tough. And I cannot stand iTunes!


Funny, the greatest strength of the iPod is iTunes.

Not a troll; but when I had USB-drive mp3 players managing my music was a right PITA. Now with iTunes and playlists/smart playlist integration I have less work and less thinking to do. For my wife's smaller ipod we can do it manually or do it by playlists. For my big ol' iPod the Genius feature was one of the greatest inventions. True, it doesn't handle my niche electronic music (and probably couldn't tell dubstep from neurofunk if it had to) but for everything else it ties everything together.

So the value of the iPod is that I can give one to my dad and say "Just feed your silver disks into the computer box and then it will do everything for you."
 
2010-02-16 01:01:58 PM
Doc Daneeka: AT&T sucks.

For as much as they suck (which I think has been scientifically proven?) they have way better coverage in my area than Verizon.


/plus I never had roll over minutes with verizon which totally sucked, but thats a different story.
 
2010-02-16 01:07:18 PM
Tobin_Lam: Funny enough, I've only seen a grand total of 3 Zunes outside of stores. Are owners ashamed of the. And just hiding them?

I think this is because, unless you're looking really, really close, they're not exactly easy to spot out in public. You see someone walking around with white earbuds on, you pretty much know what they're listening with.

Zune users don't really stand out.

/people ask me where I got my 'Gears of War' edition ipod . . .
 
2010-02-16 01:08:46 PM
mekkab: Funny, the greatest strength of the iPod is iTunes.

iTunes is a bloated piece of garbage. It was by far the worst software I had installed on my computer. Thankfully I could replace it with third party software that worked OK. Then I just got rid of my iPod and got a Zune, which has far better software/hardware/interface. BTW, the Zune has MixView which is better than genius.
 
2010-02-16 01:28:41 PM
If Windows Mobile 7 is snappy and get developers to support it, it could be a winner. Definitely won't be an early adopter, winmo 6 then 6.5 both made my soul hurt until I upgraded to android.
 
2010-02-16 01:29:18 PM
mekkab: Funny, the greatest strength of the iPod is iTunes.

HAHAHAHAH!
 
2010-02-16 01:32:44 PM
Arnold T Pants: Thankfully I could replace it with third party software that worked OK.

Name(s), please?


/seriously, iTunes works for me.
//Point and laugh all you want.
 
2010-02-16 01:41:54 PM
mekkab: Arnold T Pants: Thankfully I could replace it with third party software that worked OK.

Name(s), please?



I used Floola. Just drop it on your iPod and you can use it wherever you want.
 
Ant
2010-02-16 03:20:17 PM
Tobin_Lam: Funny enough, I've only seen a grand total of 3 Zunes outside of stores. Are owners ashamed of the. And just hiding them?

No. Why would they be?
 
Ant
2010-02-16 03:22:30 PM
Lloyd Braun: I've only seen one other person who has a Zune though. Who cares? It works great and MP3s stay MP3s.

To be fair, they stay mp3s on the iPod too.
 
Ant
2010-02-16 03:24:42 PM
mekkab: So the value of the iPod is that I can give one to my dad and say "Just feed your silver disks into the computer box and then it will do everything for you."

It's pretty much the same with the Zune
 
2010-02-16 04:42:02 PM
lilbjorn: gaspode: Thats a really farked up article (and worse headline), given that every other tech site that has seen the thing is raving about it.

Really? Where? I saw no raves at CNET and no coverage at all at SlashDot. Stopped looking after that.

/I wonder whose signature is on gaspode's paycheck


It was definitely on Slashdot. I don't know about CNet, I don't really ever go there.
 
2010-02-16 04:57:05 PM
lilbjorn: Really? Where? I saw no raves at CNET and no coverage at all at SlashDot. Stopped looking after that.

/I wonder whose signature is on gaspode's paycheck


CNET: Link (new window)

@ 1:18 "We're really looking forward to checking out the Windows Phone 7 Series. They've made the smart phone OS interesting again"

Slashdot:Link (new window)

From CmdrTaco himself: "A phone from Microsoft to get excited about that is going to work properly and take on the iPhone's world domination?" 418 comments

You were saying?
 
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