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(Mail Tribune)   Police department switches to four-cylinder Saturns, requests that you please not drive over 55 if they are chasing you   (mailtribune.com) divider line 385
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2003-04-17 02:07:31 PM  
"Stop! Or I'll say 'Stop' again!"
 
2003-04-17 02:24:31 PM  
At least now when they do the PIT maneuver, the bumper will spring back.
 
2003-04-17 02:39:44 PM  
So the community service officers are getting them. Even the kids at the local elementary school are going to make fun of them. Oh and soccer moms in their Excursions and Hummers are going to mow them down.
 
2003-04-17 02:40:39 PM  
A friend of mine was from up north somewhere in Minnesotta.. He lived in this small town that had a nice airport, palm trees, etc. All of this was bought by some drug lord during the 80s. To keep the cops off his back, the guy buys the police force new cars. But all of the cars have governors that only let the cars go 55.

Smart guy... guess it was the drugs...
 
2003-04-17 03:01:21 PM  
WTF are they talking about? A Crown Vic gets 4 to 6 MPG, 10 at best? No it doesn't! I have a Crown Vic, and that thing gets about 15 in the city, 22 on the highway. 4 to 6 sounds more like a Hummer.
 
2003-04-17 03:02:24 PM  
Chakalakasp You probably don't drive the way the average cop drives. 10mpg is probably on the high side for them...
 
2003-04-17 03:11:28 PM  
The cars arrive at the police department ready for patrol minus only a portable computer, cell phone and shotgun,

I wish shotguns were an option you could pick when getting a new car
 
2003-04-17 03:41:48 PM  
What next? Will they go back to Ford Escorts?

Although, I think it's really cool that they use Volvos and stuff in the U.K. The other European nations (excluding Germany) use the pitiful little Passat-looking things. Of course, I understand the German cops drive like Porsches and BMWs and stuff like that. That would be the one benefit of being a cop, at least in Europe.
 
2003-04-17 04:09:47 PM  
I like my Saturn, it hauls enough balls for me but I certainly wouldn't want to be in a police chace with it. I don't see how they think they can compete with any other sports car... but you know what they say, 'you can't outrun a motorola'
 
2003-04-17 04:21:30 PM  
With many police departments adopting anti-chase or limited chase policies, maintained high-end speeds are not much of an issue. I have a Saturn 4 cyl and I love it. I think the engine's an Opal product.

The only concern I would have is whether the Crown Vic's offer more collision protection to the officers. Saw a state police CV rear-ended the other day and I doubt that the Saturn would have withstood the impact as well as the Ford.
 
2003-04-17 04:35:24 PM  
We have state troopers that drive unmarked BMW's.
 
2003-04-17 04:47:52 PM  
I can't imagine getting pulled over by a Saturn, even if it did have blue lights in the grill.

I'm afraid my laughter might seem discourteous to the officer and I'd be in jail before I dried my tears of hilarity.

Over Sam's Gap into Tennessee, they have a Mustang GT highway patrol car that is so stealthy guys in Z-28s pull up beside it and try to race. Yeah, they got your race....
 
2003-04-17 05:06:04 PM  
I like my Saturn, it hauls enough balls for me but I certainly wouldn't want to be in a police chace with it.

My Saturn can hit 100mph, but it takes a while to build up that much speed since the pick-up isn't that great.

It's tons better than my old Mitsubishi Mirage, though...

I think the bigger issue (from the POV of a Saturn owner) is the wide turning radius. Pulling a U-turn in a Saturn is NOT the easiest thing in the world. Considering how many U-turns cops tend to pull, I can see this being a problem ... unless you have REALLY wide streets.

Never drove a Crown Victoria, maybe the turning radius is about the same...?
 
2003-04-17 05:26:14 PM  
Did anybody read the article? They're still buying crown vics to chase down suspects. They just used to use old crown vics for other duties where speed wasn't important, and they've found that they can save money by leasing out the old crown vics and using saturns for jobs where speed isn't important. Nice to see somebody in government taking some steps to save money; I expect lots of police departments would get SUVs for duties like that, just to make themselves look more intimidating.
 
2003-04-17 06:20:40 PM  
I remember in Dalton Georgia, when I lived down there, they had Mustangs with 450 engines to catch the bad guys. Vroom.
 
2003-04-17 06:39:49 PM  
Did anybody read the article? They're still buying crown vics to chase down suspects.

Consider for a moment that a guy runs up, steals a purse, hops into a car, and speeds off. The lady points it out to a cop who jumps into his Saturn and tries to follow. He's still a cop, and he still has a duty to perform, even in a Saturn. At this point though, he probably has to radio in and ask for someone with a Crown Victoria to back him up...

Just because the force is still buying Crown Victoria's doesn't mean they will always be in the right place at the right time.
 
2003-04-17 09:02:12 PM  
those new police cars the Iraqi police department are kinda small....can't quite place the make/model..
 
2003-04-17 09:02:18 PM  
Holy crap! Xkenny13 stole that women's purse!
 
2003-04-17 09:03:54 PM  
The 1997 Saturn SC2 has a twin cam engine with something like 130hp. It's pretty zippy with the manual transmission, but there's no way you would want to run from the cops in it.
 
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2003-04-17 09:04:08 PM  
Heh heh: "Methford". Too funny.
 
2003-04-17 09:04:25 PM  
"I think the bigger issue (from the POV of a Saturn owner) is the wide turning radius. Pulling a U-turn in a Saturn is NOT the easiest thing in the world."

Did you try changing the tires from those cheap stock ones? I did and it made a world of difference on road handling.
 
2003-04-17 09:05:05 PM  
Ugly, ugly ass headlights
 
2003-04-17 09:06:17 PM  
/In best Southern drawl, "Give me the keys to the Saturn, Barney."
 
2003-04-17 09:07:22 PM  
A Crown Vic gets 4-10 miles per gallon? Yeah, RIGHT. That's plausible if the car sits idling all day since it's getting 0 miles per gallon for hours at a time, but a Saturn won't do much better.

If I saw a Saturn try to pull me over, I'd be inclined to assume it was a ricer who found a way to pack more lights onto the front of his car, so I'd outrun the damn thing.
 
2003-04-17 09:07:51 PM  
Yeah, my little Saturn sports coupe can get up to 100mph...but it sure as hell does move around on the road a lot. It's so lightweight that I've feared for my life many a time when it's windy and rainy and some bigass semi passes me.

True dat to the turning radius comment. I feel like I'm driving a big ol' truck sometimes.

I miss my Maxima :( more balls and a better turning radius. Dammit!! I had to go and get a "cute", economic car!
 
2003-04-17 09:07:52 PM  
Maybe i missed it in the article but what Saturn are they using? 'cos in the photo on the page it looks like a Ion. But I could be wrong. And the Ion is heaps better then the SC's they had out just last year.

Either way it's a good thing they will still be using the Vic as a pursuit car.
 
2003-04-17 09:08:38 PM  
SC State Troopers also have Suburbans and other various vehicles. The Florence Police Dept. has a gold camaro that they seized from a drug dealer and turned into an undercover car. Normally you could tell that it's an undercover car because of the strobes visible through the back window, but since the camaro has heavily tinted windows, that's no longer an option. I do like how San Antonio police did their marked cars. Took the top lights off and used strobes inside the car, and the paint on the outside of the car stating it's San Antonio Police is only like 2 shades lighter than the rest of the paint on the car. Since it's visible up close, they can say it's marked, but it's hard to tell at a distance.

I wonder if they'll make a 4cyl version of the Interceptor engine? Heh.
 
2003-04-17 09:09:30 PM  
Christ, they could've at least given them 4-door civics

I can just imagine some riced-out State Patrolman trying to pull people over,
good times, good times
 
2003-04-17 09:10:32 PM  
I have a '98 SL. It can't accelerate worth anything. That's oaky, my Mini should be coming in next month. Couldn't afford the S model. :)
 
2003-04-17 09:10:34 PM  
Worst.Headline.EVER!!! And not funny

It's just the body of the saturn.
 
2003-04-17 09:10:56 PM  
DarthG That's what British cops say!
 
2003-04-17 09:11:06 PM  
My 4 bang Saturn can do 90 just fine. :P
 
2003-04-17 09:11:32 PM  
I've driven a Crown Vic police interceptor once. I've also driven various 4- cyl. cars. Number of cylinders has nothing to do with how fast a car goes. It has to do with power/ weight ratio. The Crown vic really doesn't have a whole lot on most cars as far as acceleration goes. The saturn would certainly be more than adequate for occasional use as a pursuit car. The reason they wouldn't use it for pursuit on a regular basis is that it isn't designed for that kind of use on a regular basis. But in an emergency, it would do just fine.

A 1500 pound car with a 130 HP engine will be faster than a 4,000 pound car with a 250 HP engine, all else being equal.

As for the crash protection, well, the crown vic is a ladder- frame car with a frame design that dates back to the 1970s. It's not that great in crashes. Saturns do quite well in general, as the body absorbs impact well. Ladder- frame cars (including most large SUVs) simply transmit the energy to the occupants of the car.
 
2003-04-17 09:11:42 PM  
MUAHhahaha.. I thought the headline was funny.. THEN saw that it was for Medford.. the next city over. What a bunch of morons. Funny shiat though.
 
2003-04-17 09:12:42 PM  
04-17-03 03:11:28 PM Trunks
The cars arrive at the police department ready for patrol minus only a portable computer, cell phone and shotgun,

I wish shotguns were an option you could pick when getting a new car


Your from the states right? ;0)
 
2003-04-17 09:13:08 PM  
First car:

Volkswagen. Rabbit. Diesel.

/Some animals on this planet have a faster top speed
 
2003-04-17 09:13:38 PM  
My 4cyl 96 Contour seems to do quite well on the road. I like the Zetec engine, and the car goes much faster down I-77 than my 4cyl Mustang did. I can actually pass people now without worrying that someone's going to plow into me headon because of the time it takes. (BTW, the Contour is basically just a Ford version of the Mazda 626 I believe.)
 
2003-04-17 09:13:40 PM  
In Nederlands, we got Mercedes C class. Taxis are E class.

Both are latest generation.
 
Rat [TotalFark]
2003-04-17 09:14:43 PM  
can we just think of the poor soul who will be the first to get pulled over by one of these in a high speed pursuit?

please folks, lets focus!
 
2003-04-17 09:14:46 PM  
LMAO. I don't know why, but this is quite funny to me. Sure, most police forces are trying to cut back on their high speed chases, but sometimes they're necessary. How the fark to they plan on keeping up with ANYTHING in a 4 cyl. Saturn? Hell, I could outrun that in a Toyota (pretty much any model). Not that they can catch me now anyway....but it's the principle. Kind of retracts from the whole challenge...
 
2003-04-17 09:15:08 PM  
AngelofDeath

Dude! Who's the hottie in your bio?
 
2003-04-17 09:15:35 PM  
Case in point: try out British's Mini. Tiny car+ powerful engine= lots of get up and go. And, the Mini is definitely a 4- cyl.
 
2003-04-17 09:15:42 PM  
The cars are for administrators and desk jockies. They are not used for chasing or pulling people over.
 
2003-04-17 09:16:08 PM  
I had a 4 cylinder saturn, and it wasnt that bad. Sure its not a Ford Mustang but it was no volvo. I pushed 110 one time, it almost fell apart but still...110 for a POS car aint bad =)
 
2003-04-17 09:17:17 PM  
ya know.... I'd laugh at this but I have a friend that has a 4 banger Saturn..... he's polished the throttle body, added air intake and exhaust pipes, chip, and that thing does near 14's ..... he's beat Chevy's off the line before.
 
2003-04-17 09:17:18 PM  
the police department here in austin has big ass ford trucks. it looks like an F-250. BIG! god bless texas. id hate to be running from the man and look in the rearview and see this HUGE truck coming at me. i'd give up. and the best part about those trucks is that no matter how many heads you have to arrest, you can just keep putting more of 'em in the bed.
 
2003-04-17 09:17:50 PM  
[image from mfnrocks.com too old to be available]

But... but I can't drive 55!
 
2003-04-17 09:18:07 PM  
The true mark of excellence in automobile manufacture is not what the Establishment prefers, but what the other side elects to use. Consider the Red Army Faction, reputed always to use BMW's due to their reliability.
 
2003-04-17 09:18:40 PM  
I drive a Wrangler now, and I love it. I do miss my 5 speed saturn though, I beat that thing to hell. I hit trash cans with it, those road markers that construction workers use. Mmm dent resistance rules...haha good times.
 
2003-04-17 09:19:18 PM  
Crown Vics are beautiful, posh cars. Unfortunately they sometimes explode if you hit them hard enough from behind.
The differential case rips into the fuel tank, just like the Ford Pintos of yore. This happens a disproportionate amount of times to police officers because they are in the breakdown lane on a highway writing a ticket or somesuch when they get hit by some speeding asshat in the breakdown lane. Ford has a fix, but there's a class action lawsuit about this. That said, I'd rather take my chances with the crown vic than the Saturn which is all plastic except for the frame and roof panel.
 
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