Its a tough one to tackle, but perhaps having someone relatively unknown taking a crack at it they'll be able to quash negative buzz. Dune isn't a good medium to receive a hollywood treatment, so perhaps a screenwriter who isn't really mainstream hollywood is the best bet.

As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS!

a stainless steel rat: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS!

I like the Sci Fi version. I wanna see Masterpiece Theater try it.

There can be only One.



wait?

I'd welcome a Dune inspired HBO series. The scripts loosely based on the plot of the book(s). It just doesn't work as a movie or even mini series.

Shrugging Atlas: The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.



I felt the sam eway when I heard they were going to do The Lord of the Rings.

Dune would be tough.


Still I can watch David Lynch's version.

Shrugging Atlas: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS.

What I would like to do with the franchise however, is a MMORPG made by Valve, Blizzard or CCP Games (EVE)

PonceAlyosha: a stainless steel rat: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS!

I like the Sci Fi version. I wanna see Masterpiece Theater try it.

The Sci Fi version wasn't horrible, but they had a really bad interpretation of Paul in my opinion, particulary at the beginning. Some of the casting was pretty awful too (Stilgar comes to mind). I just didn't envision one of the most fierce Fremen warriors as a short, pudgy, balding man that resembles the guy that sits in the cube across the aisle from me at work.

How hard can it be to write a story somebody else already wrote?

*watches Lynch's Dune again*

Oh. Right.

PonceAlyosha: a stainless steel rat: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS!

I like the Sci Fi version. I wanna see Masterpiece Theater try it.

Children of Dune was ok, but SciFi Dune was horrid. Of course, you cannot replace Patrick Stewart as Gurney with the hack they put in there.

maq0r: What I would like to do with the franchise however, is a MMORPG made by Valve, Blizzard or CCP Games (EVE)

As a huge fan and player of EVE, I agree. I just wonder though if there's a big enough fan base out there for a Dune MMO, regardless of how well it's done. Also, so much of what makes Dune a great tale are the politics and behind the scenes manipulation that just doesn't translate to a video game.

meat0918: Children of Dune was ok, but SciFi Dune was horrid. Of course, you cannot replace Patrick Stewart as Gurney with the hack they put in there.

Hey now, you're talking about Harry "The Hatchet" Lonsdale my man. Watch it, or you may find yourself beaten to death with a massive black rubber cawk.

I don't see having an unknown (or relatively unknown) writer on the project as a bad thing.

Anyway, I'm one of the few people who actually liked the first Dune movie ..

Donno, would be interesting if they did it in a film noir style.. that way you could capture all the inner dialog.

of couse if done badly it could come off like a 3 hour Burn notice episode...

/likes Burn Notice but was an easy cheap shot...
//Shadout Maaaaappppesss

I would second the HBO series suggestion, if I was willing to pay for HBO.

As far as the Lynch v. SciFi series, some characters were better in each. For example, Stilgar was much better in the movie, but Chani was better in the series. The series was more faithful to the books, which I liked.

Suggestion: Make the fighters seem like real fighters and have the most capable leaders (Leto, Paul, Stilgar, etc.) be some truly scary people. They're supposed to portray expert killers and commanders of battle-hardened warriors. The only reason the series' Saardukar would win battles is that defenders couldn't stop laughing at their puffy purple uniforms long enough to lift a sword to defend themselves.

Bslasch: Donno, would be interesting if they did it in a film noir style.. that way you could capture all the inner dialog.

of couse if done badly it could come off like a 3 hour Burn notice episode...

/likes Burn Notice but was an easy cheap shot...
//Shadout Maaaaappppesss

When you're a master of assassins, sometimes you lose sight of simple tricks. Say, a planted operative from the previous regime in a hidden room with a cache of hunter-seeker darts. Be on the lookout for rooms designed to lure targets: an orthonograph throttle for a door handle is generally bait for a young prince or duke in a military family.

/Jeffrey Donovan as Duncan Idaho?
//He can play the drunk parts pretty convincingly.

Until I actually read Dune, Lynch and SciFi alike seemed completely incoherent.

/it's really hard to film someone manipulating their own internal chemistry

More of This please... I miss this game

SGRick: Bslasch: Donno, would be interesting if they did it in a film noir style.. that way you could capture all the inner dialog.

of couse if done badly it could come off like a 3 hour Burn notice episode...

/likes Burn Notice but was an easy cheap shot...
//Shadout Maaaaappppesss

When you're a master of assassins, sometimes you lose sight of simple tricks. Say, a planted operative from the previous regime in a hidden room with a cache of hunter-seeker darts. Be on the lookout for rooms designed to lure targets: an orthonograph throttle for a door handle is generally bait for a young prince or duke in a military family.

/Jeffrey Donovan as Duncan Idaho?
//He can play the drunk parts pretty convincingly.

You owe me on keyboard....

This guy?

I thought the Lynch movie was great.. didn't read the books though.. I like the fact that he didn't dumb it down like Sci-Fi did..

/My brother is coming Baron....

doctorwormwood: More of This please... I miss this game

That game was bad ass. I wonder if there's any way to find a version on the interwebs or steam that would run on Vista or Windows 7.

The Scifi one wasn't bad in my opinion. The one thing that Scifi did really well was the Baron. The Lynch Baron was possibly the worst interpretation of any character I've seen.

Also, Children of Dune had James McAvoy shirtless, so they are going to win regardless. Sting in weird space-underpants just doesn't compare.

Yukon Cornelius: This guy?

Well, he did do some nice re-writes on that guy from High Fidelity's Broadway play.

/sucks to be Olive

doctorwormwood: More of This please... I miss this game

the 3D one they made was also really good. surprisingly good. One of the last westwood titles too.

Shrugging Atlas: doctorwormwood: More of This please... I miss this game

That game was bad ass. I wonder if there's any way to find a version on the interwebs or steam that would run on Vista or Windows 7.

Wasn't it a Dos game? DosBox.....

namatad: at least the mini-series attempted to stay true to the book.
what the fark was that piece of crap that david linch made?
shudder

Dude you can rag on Lynch movie, but the fact is the visuals he created for the Dune Universe are basically the accepted norm by almost everyone. He did the best he could with a relatively small budget and a studio wanting him to turn it into Star Wars. True to the book? No, not really. But how can you be in two hours? Frankly I thought he did a great job not only with the visuals and effects, but much of the casting was fantastic, and he got the point across. Imperfect to be sure, but I'm not sure given the situation at the time what more he could have done.

rovaals: Shrugging Atlas: doctorwormwood: More of This please... I miss this game

That game was bad ass. I wonder if there's any way to find a version on the interwebs or steam that would run on Vista or Windows 7.

Wasn't it a Dos game? DosBox.....

Was it? God I feel old.

nope ye rnot that old.. it was windows 98... ok you are that old... Link (new window)

namatad: what the fark was that piece of crap that david linch made?

It was a science fiction masterpiece, you cretin.


Easily the best costumes of any science fiction film. Great music, wonderful cast, very good special effects for the time, wonderful makeup and sets.

Its real triumph was in getting the scale of the story across and also not completely boring to death the non-nerds who saw it. Sure, it wasn't as faithful to the book, but it was so much more entertaining. Probably Lynch's best work, and defined the Dune universe for most people.

"How can this be? For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!"

Shrugging Atlas: maq0r: What I would like to do with the franchise however, is a MMORPG made by Valve, Blizzard or CCP Games (EVE)

As a huge fan and player of EVE, I agree. I just wonder though if there's a big enough fan base out there for a Dune MMO, regardless of how well it's done. Also, so much of what makes Dune a great tale are the politics and behind the scenes manipulation that just doesn't translate to a video game.

I was under the impression that EVE had like this huge Politic factor going on.

and still no Ringworld movie =(



(although given today's youth it would face cries of "You stole that from HALO!")

Shrugging Atlas: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

I'm a huge fan, too, and I'd agree that the silver screen isn't the place for Dune.

It needs a series treatment, preferably on a pay cable channel that has a higher budget (something like Rome's production would be awesome), and 50+ minutes of commercial-free run-time. Then it might come together well.

It's just not an action series; it's an epic about ideas. Among the 6 books (I refuse to acknowledge the Brian Herbert books as canon), all the big "Hollywood action" takes place outside the narrative; the pages are far more conversations and royal court intrigue than battle scenes.

Plus, any book that has a glossary at the back of it is going to see some major changes to the dialog.

Oh, and all that back story needs some setting up as well ... I watched the SciFi version with friends, and we had to pause the DVD every few minutes to explain something about the Duneverse so something like why they use knives and swords instead of sophisticated lasers so far in the future would make sense.

PonceAlyosha: a stainless steel rat: As a huge fan of the Dune series, I have to say, "Please, no more attempts at a movie."

The scope is too big, and the subtelty of the story too deep to ever do it justice.

THIS!

I like the Sci Fi version. I wanna see Masterpiece Theater try it.

...You know, a moderately budgeted BBC version would probably be so awesome it would fold space better'n the Spacing Guild.

I would watch that, if I were right. I'd watch it, torrent and burn a copy, then get the overpriced collection when it came out for retail.

LOVE the series, i've read it at least 7 times

all you lynch bashers know that frank herbert worked on the film with him right? visually i thought i was great but the voice guns (which were herberts idea IIRC) were a travesty, as was the rain at the end of the movie

skyotter: and still no Ringworld movie =(

It's amazing, isn't it? They'll never stop re-writing PKD's stuff, but no one has ever made a movie from a Larry Niven book. Is he asking for too much money? I just don't get it.

the best we've gotten is his adaptation of The Soft Weapon into an animated Star Trek episode ... even if the kzinti were dressed in pink spacesuits.

Star Trek vs Kzinti (new window) (new window)

maq0r:

What I would like to do with the franchise however, is a MMORPG made by Valve, Blizzard or CCP Games (EVE)


Really? An epic novel reduced to a series of fetch-quests and spreadsheet accounting, that's what you want?

/casts magic missle at your darkness.

skyotter: Star Trek vs Kzinti (new window)

Wow. I think I'm glad I missed that. My inner geek would love to see it, but...pink pussycats?

Ah well, at least the Sy-Fy miniseries fell apart. After what they did to Riverworld, I don't think I could take what they'd do to Ringworld.

Niven needs a better agent.

deadsanta: maq0r:

What I would like to do with the franchise however, is a MMORPG made by Valve, Blizzard or CCP Games (EVE)


Really? An epic novel reduced to a series of fetch-quests and spreadsheet accounting, that's what you want?

/casts magic missle at your darkness.

And imagine the scenery: sand. Lots and lots of farking sand. "Fedaykin Commander wants you to to travel to Sietch Tabr and retrieve 10 bla bla bla..." It would be slit-your-wrists bad as an MMO.

Obnox: Riverworld


still haven't checked that out (no cable). i've heard it's pretty bad, but i'm enough of a PJF fan to want to see even a bad adaptation ...