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2010-02-11 11:43:09 AM
PhaserQuest: I was sent an article from a relative in Sweden with a list of demands from the Islamic Association of Norway.

Here's what Google brings up:

Demands from Muslims in Norway / Norske Muslimers krav - Stormfront
1 post - 1 author
Recognition of the 2 Muslim Eid holy days as official in Norway. ... news from Basim Ghozlan, leader of the Rabita Mosque and Islamic Association of Norway. ...
www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=7794989 - 16 hours ago -

If you can't trust Stormfront to give you the facts,who can you trust.
 
2010-02-11 11:43:16 AM
godofusa.com: learn to read

Learn to read books that are more than Islamophobic bedwetting.
 
2010-02-11 11:44:05 AM
jordawesome: I thought this too, but I think subby is right.

You immigrate to Norway from someplace
You emigrate from someplace to Norway

Makes sense to me.


If you (as a non-Norwegian, possibly [likely] an American) wish to move to Norway then you are wishing to *emigrate*. If you're already a Norwegian and you're talking about people coming into your country then they are said to *immigrate*.

I'm guessing from the context that most people are in the former camp, therefore the correct word is emigrate.
 
2010-02-11 11:44:30 AM
moops: Psumek: It's ok. Just wait until he gets to TX and sees all the Mexicans running around.

you know why those mexicans are there? because people flagrently fragrantly hire illegal workers left and right.


FTFY
 
2010-02-11 11:48:27 AM
Cajnik: OlafTheBent: Eastern European women tend to be more warty/moley.

Youz trollin, but I think because you want to have a Norwegian girls thread. To counter your warty/moley charge, I give you from the Czech Rep


I find irony in that the smaller chested woman says world cup, where the larger chested woman does not.

That being said...
i352.photobucket.com
 
2010-02-11 11:49:16 AM
drewkumo: godofusa.com: learn to read

Learn to read books that are more than Islamophobic bedwetting.


He has a point though; there are Europeans out here such as myself that will consistently vote for the Muslimiest name on the ballot for local or national elections just to bring forth the Islamapocalypse (we don't get the Rapture over here so that's the closest thing we can aim for).

So yes, it's all true.
 
2010-02-11 11:49:37 AM
schnarff: CtrlAltDelete: That'd be cool and all, but I don't speak Norwish.

Totally irrelevant. I was there on business last year, and basically everyone in all of farking Scandinavia speaks impeccable English (I was able to ask a group of elementary-school aged kids to take a picture of me in Stockholm, for example, without a word of Swedish).

If Norway wasn't so damn cold, it'd be awesome. There's just something about it being -16C with wind chill that puts a real damper on it for me.


I was in Geiranger, a tiny little town at the end of a fjord. While walking through the woods, I came across a group of school children about 9 or 10 years old. They spoke better English than my Polish wife, a linguist, who used to work as a Spanish-English translator (at least accent wise - she probably has a better grasp of Grammar than most native English speakers.)
 
2010-02-11 11:49:40 AM
DangerousDaze: How can we have got this far down the thread before some grammar Nazi like myself informed subby that it's "emigrate", not "immigrate"? Seriously, people!

pet peeve?
 
2010-02-11 11:52:39 AM
You mean they don't just open their doors and allow everyone to move on in? Those racists!
 
2010-02-11 11:53:03 AM
Cthulhu Theory: Cajnik: OlafTheBent: Eastern European women tend to be more warty/moley.

Youz trollin, but I think because you want to have a Norwegian girls thread. To counter your warty/moley charge, I give you from the Czech Rep

I find irony in that the smaller chested woman says world cup, where the larger chested woman does not.

That being said...


Good point, but I don't think a lot of women top Jana Defi
 
2010-02-11 11:53:44 AM
Hindmost: So yes, it's all true.

Don't worry, we Americans will still be able to bail you out. Just like when we beat back the Communazi Russkies in WWII.
 
2010-02-11 11:54:20 AM
PhaserQuest: I don't care about riots but...

I was sent an article from a relative in Sweden with a list of demands from the Islamic Association of Norway. Among some of the Muslim demands are division of sexes in classes, recognition of the two Muslim Eid holy days as official in Norway, no work on Fridays, and easier access to hospitals that practice circumcision. I don't have or care for the actual numbers of Muslims in Norway but that is unfortunate.


How is that unfortunate? Seems far more outrageous to encourage a foreign, backwards population to immigrate to your country and then declare there were strings attached all along. "Hey, we invited you guys to come over en masse but now you must give up your ancient culture, strong traditions and unsightly way of life."

And if they refuse they the alternative of being alienated from the naive Europeans exploiting them for any of the common reasons for European immigration (alleviating white guilt, cheap labor, fulfilling misguided sense of progressiveness etc.)
 
2010-02-11 11:56:59 AM
Persnickety: pet peeve?

Not really. Just bored. Oh, and +1 vote for Czech women. I can recommend a particularly excellent (and very in-your-face) establishment in Prague that is a "must visit" for any stag/bachelor party.
 
2010-02-11 11:57:28 AM
godofusa.com: Ah yes, I'm a troll for telling the truth about Europe.

Almost a million hits on "muslim riots europe". Plenty of pictures.


Sometimes it is fun to feed the troll :D

BTW a Google search with moderate security filters for "racist teabaggers (new window)" yields about 1.5 million hits. I guess this means that teabaggers are half a million google hits more racist than Muslims are terrorists?
 
2010-02-11 11:58:45 AM
TheGogmagog: Forget Norway.

I vote Kenya! (new window)
 
2010-02-11 11:58:45 AM
Uncle Tractor: redj: I'd love to live in Norway - beautiful women, scenery, no crime etc. To get round the booze issue

This is how the natives get around the booze issue:


Funny. That is exactly how I distill moonshine at my house. A pressure cooker makes a great still.
 
2010-02-11 11:59:19 AM
palelizard: BlorfMaster: Yeah, go to Norway and enjoy your Muslum riots.

Hopefully they and the deathmetal people will have a totally kickass war.


The death metal guys would win. Even their roosters (pops) are hardcore.
 
2010-02-11 12:06:51 PM
Or yo can just sneak across the border. That seems to work well for the illegals,here in America.
 
2010-02-11 12:07:18 PM
brap: I often wonder why grandpa brap left Norway. I wouldn't mind getting a visa. i would be willing to summer over there. If immigration officials in Oslo are readling this and can hook me up, I bring a skill set. I can bring back the lost art of making coil pots and I give a pretty mean backrub.

Well, grandpa keypusher left norway because he was the third of five sons (like gulliver) and norway was poor in 1922. America was very good to him. Also, some of his relatives who stayed behind got killed in World War II. But yeah, sometimes I wish he'd stuck it out.

Of course, if our respective grandfathers had stayed where they were, neither you nor I would exist.
 
2010-02-11 12:07:54 PM
beoswulf: Muslims are only 5% of the European population, that makes them serious overachievers for violence and media attention whoring.

They're no good at anything else of course they'll over represented in those fields.
 
Pav
2010-02-11 12:08:32 PM
I am disgusted with you farkers.

You have the chance to post pics of the most beautiful chicks in the world and you shiat all over it with your trolling.
 
2010-02-11 12:09:18 PM
Psumek: godofusa.com: G. Tarrant: godofusa.com: Enjoy VATs.

You know, it's stunning to me that there are people who could be living in a paradise with beautiful people, good food, a generally happy society, higher life expectancy, healthier environment, fun things to do, and yet say "What, a few cents tax? Well fark THAT."

I'm not saying Norway is that paradise, but seriously, STFU. If the VAT is the only negative that gets brought up about someplace, then things are pretty damn good.

On the other hand, there's people here that say "What, roads and police? Of course I want those things. What, we need to pay for them? They cost money? fark THAT!" So maybe it doesn't surprise me.

State governments fund their fix this and that with sales and property taxes. That should be enough, but no. They have to pay for education and pensions for public sector workers. Look at CA and NJ. They are each BROKE. I can't wait to move out of NJ and go to a state with no income tax, like TX.

You do realize that tax you pay is so you don't have to live in a place like Texas.


No, but you get a chance to feel what Detroit's like. Texas may not be as smart in the education dept, but at least we aren't massively violent and dumb...

/least not NATIVE Texans.
 
2010-02-11 12:12:40 PM
Anyone else read the article linked on that page Norway shipped out its own poorest

I'm guessing that can also help your bottom line financially.
 
2010-02-11 12:15:10 PM
pheed:
By the way if you want to live in the far northern reaches (can't remember the name of the town) near the Arctic circle they have a work-permit free zone. Anyone can work there without the need for special paperwork. Personally I'd love to get citizenship there. The only downside as far as I can see would be high property prices and high booze prices.



No we don`t. We have a more or less tax-free zone in Svalbard, but thats way north of the polar circle (almost half of Norway is above the polar circle).
 
2010-02-11 12:16:03 PM
dbcarey: Anyone else read the article linked on that page Norway shipped out its own poorest

I'm guessing that can also help your bottom line financially.


That happened 150 years ago. I doubt it means shiat in regard to their current financial health.
 
2010-02-11 12:19:32 PM
godofusa.com: I live in NJ, not DC. Why is over 40% of my income stolen?

Because you touch yourself at night.
 
2010-02-11 12:21:30 PM
keypusher: Of course, if our respective grandfathers had stayed where they were, neither you nor I would exist.

Oh I would have. I am the reincarnation of a lichen. It was my time.
 
2010-02-11 12:23:46 PM
For those who asked above, VAT is sales tax. That's actually the EU offical term for it (though I forget exactly what the full name is). Norway isn't a part of the EU, so we actually have a different term for it, but for non-Norwegian speakers we call it VAT or sales tax anyway.

The sales tax is 25% in Norway, by the way. I think it's about the same in the rest of Scandinavia as well.

It's really the sales tax that gets you. My income tax is around 35%, and that is the whole thing. You can easily move in that direction in the US as well, when you start to compound state taxes, federal, 401Ks, health insurance and so on. Cost of living is definitely higher here in Norway though. But you get much more for it in social services and goods.

For the record, I'm a dual US/Norwegian citizen who's lived about equal chunks of my adult life in either country, so I do have a pretty good basis for comparison.

Also, for a short movie about Norway, here's a good one (new window). ;)

/ I came for the 10 months of winter and two months of poor skiing conditions
// I stayed for my six weeks of vacation per year and 37.5 hour work week
/// The mööse is in Sweden
 
2010-02-11 12:24:12 PM
Cajnik: Cthulhu Theory: Cajnik: OlafTheBent: Eastern European women tend to be more warty/moley.

Youz trollin, but I think because you want to have a Norwegian girls thread. To counter your warty/moley charge, I give you from the Czech Rep

I find irony in that the smaller chested woman says world cup, where the larger chested woman does not.

That being said...

Good point, but I don't think a lot of women top Jana Defi


I don't most women grow that... large... naturally. So you're right. Not a lot of women can top beoswulf: PhaserQuest: I don't care about riots but...

I was sent an article from a relative in Sweden with a list of demands from the Islamic Association of Norway. Among some of the Muslim demands are division of sexes in classes, recognition of the two Muslim Eid holy days as official in Norway, no work on Fridays, and easier access to hospitals that practice circumcision. I don't have or care for the actual numbers of Muslims in Norway but that is unfortunate.

How is that unfortunate? Seems far more outrageous to encourage a foreign, backwards population to immigrate to your country and then declare there were strings attached all along. "Hey, we invited you guys to come over en masse but now you must give up your ancient culture, strong traditions and unsightly way of life."

And if they refuse they the alternative of being alienated from the naive Europeans exploiting them for any of the common reasons for European immigration (alleviating white guilt, cheap labor, fulfilling misguided sense of progressiveness etc.)


Just postulating here, but, if you move to a country because you like their country then shouldn't you want to embrace their culture?
 
2010-02-11 12:25:03 PM
godofusa.com: G. Tarrant: godofusa.com: Enjoy VATs.

You know, it's stunning to me that there are people who could be living in a paradise with beautiful people, good food, a generally happy society, higher life expectancy, healthier environment, fun things to do, and yet say "What, a few cents tax? Well fark THAT."

I'm not saying Norway is that paradise, but seriously, STFU. If the VAT is the only negative that gets brought up about someplace, then things are pretty damn good.

On the other hand, there's people here that say "What, roads and police? Of course I want those things. What, we need to pay for them? They cost money? fark THAT!" So maybe it doesn't surprise me.

State governments fund their fix this and that with sales and property taxes. That should be enough, but no. They have to pay for education and pensions for public sector workers. Look at CA and NJ. They are each BROKE. I can't wait to move out of NJ and go to a state with no income tax, like TX.

Norway is a nice country, but you'll end up paying more than 50% in income taxes. Then you have taxes on food (WHAT THE FARK!?!?!) and VATs on electronics, clothes, etc.

In Europe, many households have 2-3 generations living in one house because it's too farking expensive. In America, it's 1-2.

I live in NJ, not DC. Why is over 40% of my income stolen?


Wait till you see the property taxes in TX.
 
2010-02-11 12:25:20 PM
mordi: No we don`t. We have a more or less tax-free zone in Svalbard, but thats way north of the polar circle (almost half of Norway is above the polar circle).

Norway has all of 4.5 million people. I am sitting within 60 miles of nearly double that population, and most of that is a Lake.

Not sure what my point is.

/and at about 9:15 this morning, one of them was standing at his hotel window naked as a god damn jay bird. Hi naked guy, we see you, yes you are very naked. eye bleach.
 
2010-02-11 12:26:40 PM
godofusa.com:
Norway is a nice country, but you'll end up paying more than 50% in income taxes. Then you have taxes on food (WHAT THE FARK!?!?!) and VATs on electronics, clothes, etc.

In Europe, many households have 2-3 generations living in one house because it's too farking expensive. In America, it's 1-2.

I live in NJ, not DC. Why is over 40% of my income stolen?


1. Your 50% must be from cop-math..
2. I don`t know about any households who have 2-3 generations living in one house because of expences. But I`m sure you kown better, I only live here.
3. You pay 40% income tax? Seriously? And you pay extra for healtcare? No wonder you`re so grumpy
 
2010-02-11 12:26:58 PM
Are there language requirements?

I suck at learning languages, I've made failed in my attempts at Spanish and German.

Don't mind the winter.
Like hot chicks.
Plan on having children and it'll probably cost a 1M give or take to put them through college here.
Plus this whole healthcare snafu.
I already pay a huge portion of my income to the basics that are 'free' over there, so that's a wash.

Plus the cars. They get all the fun cars that America will never see.
 
2010-02-11 12:28:40 PM
Pav: I am disgusted with you farkers.

You have the chance to post pics of the most beautiful chicks in the world and you shiat all over it with your trolling.


i580.photobucket.com
 
2010-02-11 12:30:41 PM
lukelightning: The Mexicans have long known that it is almost impossible to immigrate to Norway, and this situation has entered the language as a term to mean something is virtually impossible... surely you've heard the phrase "Norway, José!"

I lol'ed.

/And nearly spit out my seltzer.
 
2010-02-11 12:34:30 PM
BlorfMaster:
Yeah, go to Norway and enjoy your Muslum riots.


Throw out the Israeli embacy, problem solved...;)

We got a muslim riot going on now due to the usual cartoons being reprinted. Muslims all over Oslo went on a 2 hour strike. At night.


nlscb:
/half-danish
//danish women made it very clear a long time ago that I was not tall enough to do any of the impregnating (good luck getting laid if you're under 6'1" and are not already an expert in courting and seduction)
///chose a life in America instead


FYI, someone is having fun at your expence...
 
2010-02-11 12:36:22 PM
\mordi: BlorfMaster:
Yeah, go to Norway and enjoy your Muslum riots.


Throw out the Israeli embacy, problem solved...;)

We got a muslim riot going on now due to the usual cartoons being reprinted.retards with thin skin getting butt-hurt Muslims all over Oslo went on a 2 hour strike. At night.


nlscb:
/half-danish
//danish women made it very clear a long time ago that I was not tall enough to do any of the impregnating (good luck getting laid if you're under 6'1" and are not already an expert in courting and seduction)
///chose a life in America instead


FYI, someone is having fun at your expence...


FTFY
 
2010-02-11 12:37:42 PM
moops: i was looking for photos of rioting BNP members, but found this. i'll just leave it here.

Heeey, I'm sure I saw those guys at the Roskilde Festival in 96! I remember so clearly now. Düreforsög was playing and there were thousands of crazy, half naked, happy, drunk Danes dancing. Er... or was it Eläkeläiset?

/not your bro
 
2010-02-11 12:38:04 PM
darkscout: Are there language requirements?

I suck at learning languages, I've made failed in my attempts at Spanish and German.




If you failed at German, Norwegian will kick your ass.
 
2010-02-11 12:39:16 PM
I can recommend Bergen - fantastically beautiful fjordal town with a seemingly endless supply of restaurants and bars. :)
 
2010-02-11 12:41:15 PM
Pandora's Handbag: Heeey, I'm sure I saw those guys at the Roskilde Festival in 96! I remember so clearly now. Düreforsög was playing and there were thousands of crazy, half naked, happy, drunk Danes dancing. Er... or was it Eläkeläiset?

Cool story, girl.
 
2010-02-11 12:41:52 PM
ddam: godofusa.com: G. Tarrant: godofusa.com: Enjoy VATs.

You know, it's stunning to me that there are people who could be living in a paradise with beautiful people, good food, a generally happy society, higher life expectancy, healthier environment, fun things to do, and yet say "What, a few cents tax? Well fark THAT."

I'm not saying Norway is that paradise, but seriously, STFU. If the VAT is the only negative that gets brought up about someplace, then things are pretty damn good.

On the other hand, there's people here that say "What, roads and police? Of course I want those things. What, we need to pay for them? They cost money? fark THAT!" So maybe it doesn't surprise me.

State governments fund their fix this and that with sales and property taxes. That should be enough, but no. They have to pay for education and pensions for public sector workers. Look at CA and NJ. They are each BROKE. I can't wait to move out of NJ and go to a state with no income tax, like TX.

Norway is a nice country, but you'll end up paying more than 50% in income taxes. Then you have taxes on food (WHAT THE FARK!?!?!) and VATs on electronics, clothes, etc.

In Europe, many households have 2-3 generations living in one house because it's too farking expensive. In America, it's 1-2.

I live in NJ, not DC. Why is over 40% of my income stolen?

Wait till you see the property taxes in TX.


I live in NJ. We have the highest property taxes in the country.

In my area, for every $100 assessed value of a home is taxed $4.10. In the area of TX I am looking at.. it's $.40.. that's 1/10

Oh, the sales' tax is 1.25% higher. I'll keep shopping online.
 
2010-02-11 12:44:13 PM
El Dudereno:
If you failed at German, Norwegian will kick your ass.


And don't forget that they have not one but *two* written languages! Bokmål and Nynorsk. O_O
 
2010-02-11 12:45:34 PM
Only that long of a wait if you do it leagally, just get in then cry about your rights and you'll be good to go... with welfare goodness.
 
2010-02-11 12:46:41 PM
Shush!1!!!! (new window)
And bring more Nordic girls.
 
2010-02-11 12:48:34 PM
halfof33: Norway has all of 4.5 million people. I am sitting within 60 miles of nearly double that population, and most of that is a Lake.

Not sure what my point is.

/and at about 9:15 this morning, one of them was standing at his hotel window naked as a god damn jay bird. Hi naked guy, we see you, yes you are very naked. eye bleach.



Remember that during the Olympics.

/No, I don`t know what your point was ether
 
2010-02-11 12:50:13 PM
nlscb Quote 2010-02-11 10:18:31 AM
Scandinavia is awesome if you're a white woman. Free education, health care, and housing for your kids. Plus (at least in the case of Denmark) $4000/year/kid TAX FREE (a big deal where the tax burden often hits 70% of your income). A tolerant society allows you to sleep and be impregnated by the men you want to father your kids without having to really worry about whether they will stick around to raise them. I remember talking to a Danish pre-school teacher who had 1 out 20 of her students living with both biological parents (and saying this was pretty typical). Denmark even passed the "Love Bridge Laws" (later repealed) to punish Danish men seeking foreign wives by making it financially impossible for them to live in Denmark.

If you're not white and female, you're mileage may vary. Don't get me wrong - they're not Alabama racist. You won't have a cross burned on your lawn or a loved one hung from a lamp post. But you can probably expect to have to comfort your small kids as they have vicious racist taunts said to them at school with the teachers refusing to do anything about it and hearing your neighbors say shocking things that wouldn't be tolerated in most other parts of the developed western world.

As for the women being hot - yeah they're definitely hotter than most of America - but that's like winning a race against a special olympics kid. They are starting to get fat, too. Eastern European women are definitely more attractive.

I'm not trying to say Scandinavia is the root of all evil. It's just not the paradise for everyone that it is made out to be.

/half-danish
//danish women made it very clear a long time ago that I was not tall enough to do any of the impregnating (good luck getting laid if you're under 6'1" and are not already an expert in courting and seduction)
///chose a life in America instead



Really?

have you considered that its just you?
 
2010-02-11 12:55:44 PM
simpsonfan:

You forgot 'be attacked by a flock of parrots'.


Probably pining for the fjords.
 
2010-02-11 12:58:38 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: In 3-4 generations, in key parts of the country, you'll have enough people to represent a vocal majority and plenty of politicians who will pander to them for votes.

In theory, yes. In practice, 3-4 generations down the line "your people" will have adopted "our" culture. The minimullahs who want to convert the world to Islam are usually seen as outdated old farts by the 3rd gen. immigrants.

/my experience so far, anyway
 
2010-02-11 01:01:14 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: Just enter illegally....

Don't pay taxes and poop out as many kids as you can. Even if you get kicked out, your kids will be natural citizens! Enjoy the public schools and protest to get your native language taught and signs duplicated and encourage your kids to have as many kids as possible.


You left out "Be willing to accept the nastiest suck-arse jobs that the local population wouldn't take on a bet, and do it for ridiculous pay."
 
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