The Sun was there...and then it wasn't.

AdolfOliverPanties: Which is the better site, light-pollution-wise?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

AdolfOliverPanties: Which is the better site, light-pollution-wise?

I guess it depends on the cloud coverage.

AdolfOliverPanties: Serious question. I don't know the answer. L.A. light pollution can be seen from sites in Nevada. I assume it can from Arizona too.

You're doing it wrong. This is a mod-troll article that's intended to make you complain that Obama is favoring his home state by relocating federal research funds towards it.

Mods must be trying out ways to make the ad impressions from the Geek tag be more profitable.

/geek taggers probably all use ad-block

AdolfOliverPanties: Serious question. I don't know the answer. L.A. light pollution can be seen from sites in Nevada. I assume it can from Arizona too.

I thought you were yanking our chain. Does light pollution affect a solar observatory?

What Kitt's peaks may look like:

To the victor goes the spoils. Suck it AZ.

YoungSwedishBlonde: Knara: This is a mod-troll article that's intended to make you complain that Obama is favoring his home state by relocating federal research funds towards it.

Then why would the headline suggest Hawaii?

Because Kilamanjaro is actually in Tanzania.

TheOther: AdolfOliverPanties: Serious question. I don't know the answer. L.A. light pollution can be seen from sites in Nevada. I assume it can from Arizona too.

I thought you were yanking our chain. Does light pollution affect a solar observatory?

Only when you observe the sun at night

No problem as long as the webcam stays up. (new window)

TheOther: I thought you were yanking our chain. Does light pollution affect a solar observatory?

Nope. Here's a pic of the Kitt Peak observatory: (hot as the sun)



Light from the sun is sent down the angled tube. It's useful for viewing sunspot activity and the like, IIRC.

Hawaii is the better site: higher elevation, drier climate, more stable atmosphere, i.e. better "seeing." The US's best telescopes are in Hawaii.

TheOther: AdolfOliverPanties: Serious question. I don't know the answer. L.A. light pollution can be seen from sites in Nevada. I assume it can from Arizona too.

I thought you were yanking our chain. Does light pollution affect a solar observatory?

It's not light pollution, it's regular old air pollution that's the problem for solar observatories. The air at the summit of Haleakala (Maui's highest point) is among the clearest in the world, which is why there are so many observatories up there.

Besides, why would Obama be bringing home the pork when he's a seekrit Muslin?

YoungSwedishBlonde: Knara: This is a mod-troll article that's intended to make you complain that Obama is favoring his home state by relocating federal research funds towards it.

Then why would the headline suggest Hawaii?





This guy probably had more to do with it then Obama

Dan Inouye: Chairman of Senate Appropriations Committee.

astrotri: Hawaii is the better site: higher elevation, drier climate, more stable atmosphere, i.e. better "seeing." The US's best telescopes are in Hawaii.

It's a drier climate than Arizona? hmm, didn't know that.

mason4300: astrotri: Hawaii is the better site: higher elevation, drier climate, more stable atmosphere, i.e. better "seeing." The US's best telescopes are in Hawaii.

It's a drier climate than Arizona? hmm, didn't know that.

Shhh, he's on a roll. Islands are always drier than the desserts.

deserts, damnit! and I'm even from the desert =/

yogaFLAME: It was the headiest of times, it was the perilousest of times.

Message yogaFLAME?

TheShavingofOccam123: I pulled a coati mundi's tail at Kitt Peak. It's one of my earliest memories.

Out of curiosity, how many fingers do you have left?

MyRandomName: mason4300: astrotri: Hawaii is the better site: higher elevation, drier climate, more stable atmosphere, i.e. better "seeing." The US's best telescopes are in Hawaii.

It's a drier climate than Arizona? hmm, didn't know that.

Shhh, he's on a roll. Islands are always drier than the desserts.

Almost any place on Earth's surface at an altitude of 4.2km is going to be drier than a spot at 2km altitude. Water runs downhill, you know.

MyRandomName: deserts, damnit! and I'm even from the desert =/


If Kitt Peak moves to Hawaii, they have to take this.

If McCain won, would this thread be about Maui's telescope being shelved?

ScreamingHangover: This guy probably had more to do with it then Obama

Dan Inouye: Chairman of Senate Appropriations Committee.

Obama probably gave him a hand.

Sometime in the late 80's, I got a rental toyota up to about 125 on the flat road leading up to Kit's peak. No one around, blasting along, wife pointing out if a jackalope walks on to the road, we're screwed.

Maybe there was something wrong with the gas pedal.

musashi1600: If McCain won, would this thread be about Maui's telescope being shelved?

ScreamingHangover: This guy probably had more to do with it then Obama

Dan Inouye: Chairman of Senate Appropriations Committee.

Obama probably gave him a hand.



What is the sound of one hand clapping?

"What Kitt's peaks may look like"

We have no money for space studies. Turnips! Turnips and tubers are the future.

/kill me now

dbirchall: jfarkinB: MyRandomName: mason4300: astrotri: Hawaii is the better site: higher elevation, drier climate, more stable atmosphere, i.e. better "seeing." The US's best telescopes are in Hawaii.

It's a drier climate than Arizona? hmm, didn't know that.

Shhh, he's on a roll. Islands are always drier than the desserts.

Almost any place on Earth's surface at an altitude of 4.2km is going to be drier than a spot at 2km altitude. Water runs downhill, you know.

Haleakala is at about 3km, but yeah, it's still pretty dry up there, unless it's cloudy.

4.2km would be Mauna Kea... I've got 14.4% humidity right now at 4.14km on Mauna Kea, but a few nights back it was running around 1.8%.

Awesome! You're one of the Subaru TO's. We've been getting some very nice data from Subaru for a weak lensing study. Thanks for the help. :)

At least you can tour Kitt Peak. One of the coolest rides I've ever taken was on a motorcycle up to the top. Talk about views! (and I'm not referring to the ones up into space.) The ride back down was a little less fun due to the "aw fudge, I'm going to miss a turn and go flying off a thousand-foot cliff" factor.

At the top, they let you go into or get close to lots of the instruments, including the solar observatory, which is the highlight of the tour IMHO. Just the views off the mountain side make it spectacular enough, though. However- not the place to go if you have respiratory issues. I was in my 30's and in good shape when I visited, and while I didn't have any major difficulty I could definitely tell that the altitude was playing fark with my breathing.

Wouldn't Kenya be a better choice?

We're that much closer to giving Arizona back to Mexico. Everybody wins!