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(CNN)   NASA scrubs space shutle launch, will try again Monday, when the entire crew and launch team is super hungover after tonight's Super Bowl   (cnn.com) divider line 69
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2010-02-07 10:16:40 AM  
space shutle

Space shootle?
 
2010-02-07 11:21:20 AM  
I woke up at 4 AM this morning for nothing, so I'm getting a kick.

Beer tonight or space shuttle in the AM?

/can drink beer any time
//dork
 
2010-02-07 11:22:18 AM  
Link (new window)

/had to post this first.
 
2010-02-07 11:28:57 AM  
Perhaps they will be too busy to watch the game, and too professional to get drunk. Just throwing that out there.

/not watching the game
//not getting drunk
///boring
 
2010-02-07 11:29:16 AM  
More likely someone got Super Bowl tickets at the last minute.
 
2010-02-07 11:29:21 AM  
Your headline doesn't seem to have any logical connection to the article, Subby. Care to explain?

/Superbowl parties affect the weather?
 
2010-02-07 11:29:48 AM  
Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?
 
2010-02-07 11:30:42 AM  
We were tempted to load up the kids and go see this, since it was supposed to be the last night launch. I said, "you know if we jump in the car and drive several hours they are gonna scrub it". We decided not to go, and good thing. My younger son is only 5 months old so it would be lost on him, but my other is almost 7 and I know he'd love it.

Ive seen a night launch in person before, and I highly recommend it to any one who can make it. Spectacular doesn't even start to cover it.
 
2010-02-07 11:32:52 AM  
They wanted to watch the game like everyone else.
 
2010-02-07 11:33:11 AM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Low clouds might promote getting zapped by lightning?

That'd put a damper on your ascent.
 
2010-02-07 11:33:50 AM  
gregfark: Perhaps they will be too busy to watch the game, and too professional to get drunk. Just throwing that out there.

/not watching the game
//not getting drunk
///boring


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2010-02-07 11:35:18 AM  
I'm gonna be in Florida next weekend... they should just postpone the launch for the full week and do it when I'm there so I can finally see one!
 
2010-02-07 11:35:36 AM  
C0rf: OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Low clouds might promote getting zapped by lightning?

That'd put a damper on your ascent.


Thanks for the info/confirming my suspicions. Next time try without the water/vinegar solution.
 
2010-02-07 11:37:18 AM  
Sultan Of Herf: We were tempted to load up the kids and go see this, since it was supposed to be the last night launch. I said, "you know if we jump in the car and drive several hours they are gonna scrub it". We decided not to go, and good thing. My younger son is only 5 months old so it would be lost on him, but my other is almost 7 and I know he'd love it.

Ive seen a night launch in person before, and I highly recommend it to any one who can make it. Spectacular doesn't even start to cover it.


My parents drove up from West Palm twice to see a night launch when I was around 7-9 years old.....One of the coolest things I've ever seen. If the launch chances look good, make the trip. Worst case scenario is you get more quality time with your family.
 
2010-02-07 11:38:08 AM  
Space_Fetus: gregfark: Perhaps they will be too busy to watch the game, and too professional to get drunk. Just throwing that out there.

/not watching the game
//not getting drunk
///boring


Close, but no sideburns. Also, I'm Canadian, FWIW. Although I'm pretty sure more Canadians watch the Superbowl than watch the Grey Cup.
 
2010-02-07 11:38:36 AM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Low cloud ceiling makes it hard to see the landing strip in case they have to do a RTLS abort, among other things.
 
2010-02-07 11:38:43 AM  
I was up at that hour, listening live as the pilot reported the conditions and stuff, from a thousand miles away. Smartphones can be pretty kewl sometimes...
 
2010-02-07 11:40:07 AM  
BZWingZero: OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Low cloud ceiling makes it hard to see the landing strip in case they have to do a RTLS abort, among other things.


This sounds like a better reason than lightning as well. Thanks for the info.
 
2010-02-07 11:40:20 AM  
I spent a great week waiting for Columbia to launch a few years back. Kennedy is a neat place. The VAB's roof is getting eaten by vultures though.

Don't stay at the Gaylord, they search your room daily for "security" purposes and they made a bunch of people sick with their overpriced food.
 
2010-02-07 11:41:40 AM  
C0rf: OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Low clouds might promote getting zapped by lightning?

That'd put a damper on your ascent.


But if there are no signs of lightning, why not fly with cloud cover? The ship moves 9 bajillion miles per hour. It surely can cut through some clouds. Is it a moisture issue? The astronauts don't reallly need to see where they are going. Up and wherever the rocket takes them seems to be their direction.
 
2010-02-07 11:42:31 AM  
sunlion: I was up at that hour, listening live as the pilot reported the conditions and stuff, from a thousand miles away. Smartphones can be pretty kewl sometimes...

Is there an interweb link you can give us?

/also was up at 4 AM
 
2010-02-07 11:42:37 AM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

If you can't see the sky, how else you gonna know where to drive the thing?!
 
2010-02-07 11:43:41 AM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Several issues, biggest being that in the event of an RTLS (return to launch site) abort, it would make an already pretty much unpossible maneuver even more impossible. Another issue is being able to photograph the shuttle during critical flight phases to watch for junk hitting the tiles. Don't think the stuff night wasn't convective, so lightning wasn't an issue.

Apollo 12 got hit by lightning on the way up. No big deal; just reset some breakers and continued on their way. If lightning hit the shuttle, it would probably be a catastrophe.

/shuttle is a POS that ruined NASA.
//and now Obama is going to kill the sad remnant.
 
2010-02-07 11:43:43 AM  
The pilot doing the flyover said that the runway location could be identified, but the individual lights could not be, thus it didn't meet specs or whatever. I think the cloud layer started at 3700 xSL and I forget what he said it topped out at...
 
2010-02-07 11:44:58 AM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

Because there could be some shiat right on the other side of the clouds and there would be no way of knowing because you cant see it.
 
2010-02-07 11:45:45 AM  
nbrfwhoooo: C0rf:

But if there are no signs of lightning, why not fly with cloud cover? The ship moves 9 bajillion miles per hour. It surely can cut through some clouds. Is it a moisture issue? The astronauts don't reallly need to see where they are going. Up and wherever the rocket takes them seems to be their direction.


Depending on droplet size and the speed of the vehicle when passing through them, rain and clouds can damage the tiles.
 
2010-02-07 11:46:40 AM  
PanicMan: The app I use on my phone is called PoliceStream, for the Motorola Droid. I'm sure there are regular web sites that do the same thing... if you google for online police scanners you'll find some but I don't know which are the good ones.
 
2010-02-07 11:49:57 AM  
Why rush it? Putin's on first and goal waiting for the snap from the 5 launches remaining line. Can't believe we're leaving the field to the team that wants fouls called for illegal use of toilets on the ISS.

Should have gone with the original Project Orion. Built the sucker out at L2 and went booming off to Proxima Centauri, thirty years ago.

/guess we'll all end up watching soccer...
 
2010-02-07 11:49:58 AM  
Retief of the CDT: Apollo 12 got hit by lightning on the way up. No big deal; just reset some breakers and continued on their way. If lightning hit the shuttle, it would probably be a catastrophe.



Why the difference? External fuel tanks?
 
2010-02-07 11:50:13 AM  
I never really understood why low cloud cover prevents launch! I mean if it's a tornado or hurricane sure but low cloud cover?
Even old beat up 737s take off and land hundreds of times a day all over US in similar weather conditions but a billion dollar highly advanced spacecraft wussied out?
 
2010-02-07 11:56:54 AM  
Was at KSC this morning. Cold, windy, long lines- only to sit outside for two hours to hear "no-go"...

Oh yeah, and low clouds...
 
2010-02-07 11:57:37 AM  
My father was dying of cancer last summer. he was living in Orlando. As my wife and I were driving through georgia around midnight on I-95 to try and get down to see him one last time, we saw the shuttle lifting off (didn't realize what it was) about the time we noticed it off the coast, my cell phone rang.

Circumstances as they were, I thought what I was seeing to be an omen and I was about to get a really bad call. It was my sister at my fathers place, telling me the shuttle just lifted off and could we see it.

/cool story, no.
 
2010-02-07 12:04:34 PM  
time to check your spelling again. ugh.
 
2010-02-07 12:05:30 PM  
msnbcmedia1.msn.com
 
2010-02-07 12:05:36 PM  
"Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?"

Low clouds affect the ability of the ground to optically track Endeavour as she ascends. Example: optical tracking may become important if there is a failure of the o-rings similar to the Challenger accident - they could possibly call for an abort.

It also affects the visibility of the runway at the Kennedy Space Center. In an Abort-To-Launch Site situation, it is kind of critical that the pilot can see the landing area clearly. That's because he only gets one chance to land the spacecraft because it is in un-powered descent any time it lands.

Retief of the CDT: Apollo 12 got hit by lightning on the way up. No big deal; just reset some breaker

Your butt, stop the words from coming from it. You have no idea of what you are talking about.

It was a very big deal and the launch was moments from abort.

Then there was a second lighting strike that knocked out the flight attitude indicator, causing thoughts of a second abort.
 
2010-02-07 12:07:13 PM  
The shuttle was an outstanding idea, and a great achievement. Unfortunately, the shuttle we see today is a "Proof of concept" that never developed beyond that point. Expensive as shiat, pretty to look at, but never meant to be taken out on the road, as it were.
 
2010-02-07 12:13:48 PM  
OniNeko: Why is low cloud ceiling a problem for the launch? The article doesn't mention, so does anyone care to enlighten us?

The problem is, the space shuttle is more than just a spacecraft. Its an aircraft too. Low cloud ceiling is a problem because if there is a problem during launch, they shuttle has to be able to land at Kennedy Space Center in that unlikelihood (After preforming the dreaded RTLS (new window)). Now the shuttle has power it self, so its a glider and thus you have to be able to see where you are going if you're going to land on the first try (The RTLS as you've seen is as impossible as you can get even without bad weather).
 
2010-02-07 12:13:57 PM  
Space Shuttle what delayed 'til Monday?
 
2010-02-07 12:15:27 PM  
Er, has no power. :P
 
2010-02-07 12:24:30 PM  
SuperNinjaToad: I never really understood why low cloud cover prevents launch! I mean if it's a tornado or hurricane sure but low cloud cover?
Even old beat up 737s take off and land hundreds of times a day all over US in similar weather conditions but a billion dollar highly advanced spacecraft wussied out?


Read up on the RTLS, its a crazy idea in the best of weather and the last thing you want to do is have to do it blind. As for the 737's, they have one big difference from the shuttle. They actually have powered flight, the shuttle wont during a return to landing site landing.
 
2010-02-07 12:24:33 PM  
What is this stereotype of everyone drinking like a frat boy during the super bowl? At one time, maybe. And most folks that I work with will tell the same tale. More likely to lay in a bunch of food than a excessive amounts of alcohol.

Not that I won't drink a beer or two but, like most of America, I have to go to work tomorrow.

The giant booze fest went away when the super bowl was shifted to so late in the day. At least for me.
 
2010-02-07 12:26:34 PM  
Roger Shuttle, you're go at bottle up.
 
2010-02-07 12:35:15 PM  
Good heavens.

This is why we can't has nice things cos a few of y'all are
so bloody dumb you can't be bothered to Google LOW CLOUDS
SHUTTLE LAUNCH
.

Y'all being busy discussing creationism, American Idol, Flat Earth
Theory (oh, that's "just a theory too!!") or how this is all
fake shiat done on some Satanic Illuminati-conspired soundstage again!?

Where are the Teabaggers screaming
"N0bama Tuk R Moon Away!1!! We Want Are Country Bak!
WhAr ConsTulashUn?"


www.rikomatic.com
 
2010-02-07 01:03:22 PM  
Oh shutle up!
 
2010-02-07 01:08:19 PM  
bbfreak: (The RTLS as you've seen is as impossible as you can get even without bad weather).

To the idea that the first shuttle test flight should be an RTLS, commander John Young, who had flown almost every type of U.S. manned spacecraft including the lunar lander, is said to have replied, "We don't need to practice bleeding."
 
2010-02-07 01:16:24 PM  
Nem Wan: bbfreak: (The RTLS as you've seen is as impossible as you can get even without bad weather).

To the idea that the first shuttle test flight should be an RTLS, commander John Young, who had flown almost every type of U.S. manned spacecraft including the lunar lander, is said to have replied, "We don't need to practice bleeding."


Indeed, its a last ditch effort but if you were an astronaut wouldn't you at least like to have an option not to be dead if possible? The idea that the astronauts are being wussies by not launching early this morning is ridiculous. The flight rules are in place to keep risk to a minimum.
 
2010-02-07 01:43:40 PM  
gregfark: "Perhaps they will be too busy to watch the game, and too professional to get drunk. Just throwing that out there.

/not watching the game
//not getting drunk
///boring"

Agreed and lame headline -1, suby.
 
2010-02-07 01:56:44 PM  
What's a "shutle?"
 
2010-02-07 02:26:29 PM  
Drunk Astronaut:

Retief of the CDT: Apollo 12 got hit by lightning on the way up. No big deal; just reset some breaker

Your butt, stop the words from coming from it. You have no idea of what you are talking about.

It was a very big deal and the launch was moments from abort.

Then there was a second lighting strike that knocked out the flight attitude indicator, causing thoughts of a second abort.


And I may safely assume you're an expert of some kind, Mr. ITG? Wanna compare CV's? Disagree if you like, but no need to be an ass.

Yes, the strike was a true emergency, but in fact they reset the blown breakers and pressed on to land on the moon. Apollo/Saturn was a tough bird. In all likelihood a shuttle would not have survived a hit like that.
 
2010-02-07 02:29:40 PM  
King Something: What's a "shutle?"

Something you shoost into orbit, Dahling.

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