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(Boston Globe)   Almost half of Americans believe global swine flu epidemic is over. In other news, almost half of Americans believe there was a global swine flu epidemic   (boston.com) divider line 115
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2010-02-06 10:10:10 AM  
I haven't left my bunker yet. Is everyone dead now?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2010-02-06 10:15:49 AM  
likes838

99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.
 
2010-02-06 10:26:01 AM  
"pandemic"

And yes, it was. The definition doesn't depend on how many people die. All that matters is that it's widespread, and the people have no natural immunity to it.

It could have been really, really bad. I'd rather feel relieved that it wasn't than cry about overreaction. If more people had died, including people close to you, you'd all be crying "why didn't THEY do something!?!?!"
 
2010-02-06 10:34:59 AM  
In other news, almost half of Americans got their definition of "pandemic" from Hollywood disaster movies. Kinda like how they get their knowledge of forensics from CSI.
 
2010-02-06 10:58:31 AM  
Adman12: And yes, it was. The definition doesn't depend on how many people die

Yes, this. Pandemic refers to the infection rate, not the death rate.
 
2010-02-06 11:16:03 AM  
likes838: I haven't left my bunker yet. Is everyone dead now?

I'll be in my bunk(er)

/Bunker? I hardly know 'er
 
2010-02-06 11:51:22 AM  
*gnaws happily on a pork chop*

...

What?

It's my way of fighting back... for AMERICA!

Nay... THE WORLD!
 
2010-02-06 11:56:08 AM  
Put me down for the half that thinks that just maybe all the vaccines and precautions took may have prevented a more widespread outbreak.
 
2010-02-06 12:36:19 PM  
Pandemic not epidemic.
 
2010-02-06 12:36:25 PM  
mr_a: Put me down for the half that thinks that just maybe all the vaccines and precautions took may have prevented a more widespread outbreak.

As they have been doing for over a hundred years.
 
2010-02-06 12:36:47 PM  
Alacritous: Adman12: And yes, it was. The definition doesn't depend on how many people die

Yes, this. Pandemic refers to the infection rate, not the death rate.


Yep, cause y'know, that crazy infection rate that would up some 100 times less than the regular flu for the year definitely qualifies, even if the small total number of deaths doesn't.
 
2010-02-06 12:37:24 PM  
Barakku: likes838: I haven't left my bunker yet. Is everyone dead now?

I'll be in my bunk(er)

/Bunker? I hardly know 'er


clever :D
 
2010-02-06 12:41:46 PM  
I had the swine flu... It wasn't fun.
 
2010-02-06 12:41:49 PM  
In other news, the opinion of half of all Americans is somehow meaningful, as opposed to the opinion of a handful of highly trained experts who have studied the biology, epidemiology, and history of influenza and influenza vaccines.

mr_a: Put me down for the half that thinks that just maybe all the vaccines and precautions took may have prevented a more widespread outbreak.

Yup. Especially vaccination of children -- in Japan, rates of flu in the elderly went up when they stopped vaccinating kids, then down when they restarted.

Source: http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/344/12/889

Adman12: It could have been really, really bad. I'd rather feel relieved that it wasn't than cry about overreaction. If more people had died, including people close to you, you'd all be crying "why didn't THEY do something!?!?!"

Exactly. There's no way to win this one.
 
2010-02-06 12:42:31 PM  
As somebody who actually did come down with Swine Flu a few months ago, i have to say that it lived up to the hype. It was without doubt the worst flu i've ever experienced.
 
2010-02-06 12:47:25 PM  
moralpanic: As somebody who actually did come down with Swine Flu a few months ago, i have to say that it lived up to the hype. It was without doubt the worst flu i've ever experienced.

I did not have access to the vaccine until yesterday, but I got it as soon as I could. There were some old people making fun of me for getting it, but they have a lot more pounds they can spare than I do. I don't need any kind of flu.
 
2010-02-06 12:47:59 PM  
They're giving us free H1N1 shots at work this coming week.
 
2010-02-06 12:48:01 PM  
From www.thefreedictionary.com:

pan·dem·ic
adj.
1. Widespread; general.
2. Medicine Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population: pandemic influenza.


So the medical definition disagrees with many Farkers in this thread; the word "pandemic" does imply a large proportion of the population, not the tens out of billions in the case of the swine flu.
 
2010-02-06 12:48:05 PM  
ZAZ: likes838

99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.


Don't join the dark side likes838, come to Boulder.
 
2010-02-06 12:48:07 PM  
diecommiebastard.com
 
2010-02-06 12:48:28 PM  
irwhiteboi: I had the swine flu... It wasn't fun.

I'm just getting over a 3-week-long flu bug. Whatever it was....it wasn't fun.
 
2010-02-06 12:48:32 PM  
ZAZ: likes838

99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.


No thanks, I'm heading to Boulder.
 
2010-02-06 12:49:20 PM  
Submitter, until you produce some epidemiology credentials, I humbly suggest you STFU.
 
2010-02-06 12:51:37 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-02-06 12:52:59 PM  
ZAZ: 99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.

I like you.
 
2010-02-06 12:53:17 PM  
I had it last summer. As far as I'm concerned, the pandemic is over.
 
2010-02-06 12:56:08 PM  
Why no terrorism charges againsts the medical pros and the pharmacies?????
 
2010-02-06 12:57:13 PM  
Still 7 billion people swarming over the land and see... wasn't much of an epidemic.
 
2010-02-06 01:01:44 PM  
bmihura: From www.thefreedictionary.com:

pan·dem·ic
adj.
1. Widespread; general.
2. Medicine Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population: pandemic influenza.

So the medical definition disagrees with many Farkers in this thread; the word "pandemic" does imply a large proportion of the population, not the tens out of billions in the case of the swine flu.


WHO lists about 1.6 million "confirmed" cases, most of those in developed countries that actually have the money to confirm diagnosis. That's just the tip of the iceberg but even if you assume that those are the only people infected thats a rate of about 1 out of every 4250 people, a considerably higher rate than your 10 out of a billion.
 
2010-02-06 01:03:57 PM  
Darwin's Prophet: bmihura: From www.thefreedictionary.com:

pan·dem·ic
adj.
1. Widespread; general.
2. Medicine Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population: pandemic influenza.

So the medical definition disagrees with many Farkers in this thread; the word "pandemic" does imply a large proportion of the population, not the tens out of billions in the case of the swine flu.

WHO lists about 1.6 million "confirmed" cases, most of those in developed countries that actually have the money to confirm diagnosis. That's just the tip of the iceberg but even if you assume that those are the only people infected thats a rate of about 1 out of every 4250 people, a considerably higher rate than your 10 out of a billion.


They also didn't bother trying to confirm in many cases...especially after the pandemic had already kicked into high gear.
 
2010-02-06 01:04:00 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-02-06 01:04:44 PM  
I printed out that Zombie Flu hoax, and more than half of the people I work with fell for it, even though it was over 4 years old.

It even had writing about the 'reanimation of dead flesh' and the people becoming 'violent'.

/facepalm
 
2010-02-06 01:05:39 PM  
bmihura: So the medical definition disagrees with many Farkers in this thread; the word "pandemic" does imply a large proportion of the population, not like the tens of millions out of billions in the case of the swine flu.

FTFY. sounds like you need some better sources.

=Smidge=
 
2010-02-06 01:06:32 PM  
ZAZ: likes838

99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.


Naw, just come to Boulder. It is closer to Denver. Plus, you don't have to worry as much about the trustafundians considering the collapse of society as we know it has left them unable to access their parent's bank accounts.
 
2010-02-06 01:07:46 PM  
It was just the flu, fer chrissakes. The rest was hype.
 
2010-02-06 01:08:40 PM  
I had the swine flu, meh, I've had far worse regular flu. Color me unimpressed.
 
2010-02-06 01:09:50 PM  
Addendum- Anecdata: When I went to the hospital a couple months ago for a PAP, I was in the waiting area with about 25 people who were SURE they had swine flu (overhearing conversations with each other), and talked about symptoms/etc and the rest thought they had been infected by someone who _thought_ they had it, but my guess was that less than 4 of them actually had it. There were symptom sheets all over the hospital that would have shown they didn't have it, but they still wasted the doctor's time.

That being said, the trip they made to the hospital would have more likely exposed them to it than if they just stayed home and drank some Theraflu.
 
2010-02-06 01:11:03 PM  
belindashort: I printed out that Zombie Flu hoax, and more than half of the people I work with fell for it, even though it was over 4 years old.

It even had writing about the 'reanimation of dead flesh' and the people becoming 'violent'.

/facepalm



Boy howdy, don't tell them about the Mayan Apocalypse...
 
2010-02-06 01:14:18 PM  
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: belindashort: I printed out that Zombie Flu hoax, and more than half of the people I work with fell for it, even though it was over 4 years old.

It even had writing about the 'reanimation of dead flesh' and the people becoming 'violent'.

/facepalm


Boy howdy, don't tell them about the Mayan Apocalypse...


Or the dangers of unregulated dihydrogen monoxide.
 
2010-02-06 01:15:07 PM  
I had it for a week way back in November.

I probably took it too lightly. It was the worst flu I've had and looking back at it, it kicked my ass. I have no idea how bad the fever was at it's peak, but it could've been really really bad for all I know.

Most people who got were either like me, who never reported it, or had mild symptoms and didn't think of them as swine flu due to the hype about the severity. Whatever the reported statistics are, they are probably very low. I know here they even stopped diagnosing it for cases that didn't require hospitalization. Since every flu case in town was h1n1, there was no point.
 
2010-02-06 01:16:52 PM  
Goryus: Yep, cause y'know, that crazy infection rate that would up some 100 times less than the regular flu for the year definitely qualifies, even if the small total number of deaths doesn't.

One more time.. in english please.
 
2010-02-06 01:17:48 PM  
AmazingRuss: Still 7 billion people swarming over the land and see... wasn't much of an epidemic.

Am I supposed to see that it wasn't much of epidemic. I'm confused as to your usage of the pause.

There's a reason we react to flu the way we do. That's because, in it's many forms, it has racked up one of the greatest death counts of any illness. It's a serious contender for number 1. A new flu strain can conceivably wipe out millions upon millions. And they have. There are epidemics of flu that have estimated kill counts that are higher than WWI and II combined. Sometimes a little worry is both prudent and justified you slack-jawed monkey.
 
2010-02-06 01:19:56 PM  
Aarontology: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: belindashort: I printed out that Zombie Flu hoax, and more than half of the people I work with fell for it, even though it was over 4 years old.

It even had writing about the 'reanimation of dead flesh' and the people becoming 'violent'.

/facepalm

Boy howdy, don't tell them about the Mayan Apocalypse...

Or the dangers of unregulated dihydrogen monoxide.



Or the fact that they may have epidermis.
 
2010-02-06 01:20:49 PM  
ZAZ: likes838

99.9% of the people died, but a few are still alive in Las Vegas. Come join us.


My life for you!

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2010-02-06 01:22:18 PM  
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Or the fact that they may have epidermis.

Not only do they have it, but everyone else can see it.
 
2010-02-06 01:22:23 PM  
I'm just getting over it right now.....

It sucked, enough that I will take off my tinfoil hat and get a shot next time.
 
2010-02-06 01:25:51 PM  
Mangoose: AmazingRuss: Still 7 billion people swarming over the land and see... wasn't much of an epidemic.

Am I supposed to see that it wasn't much of epidemic. I'm confused as to your usage of the pause.

There's a reason we react to flu the way we do. That's because, in it's many forms, it has racked up one of the greatest death counts of any illness. It's a serious contender for number 1. A new flu strain can conceivably wipe out millions upon millions. And they have. There are epidemics of flu that have estimated kill counts that are higher than WWI and II combined. Sometimes a little worry is both prudent and justified you slack-jawed monkey.


Go fap with your hand sanitizer, bubble boy.
 
2010-02-06 01:29:36 PM  
I think if we hit half a billion worldwide, pandemic would have been an appropriate word.

Hospitalization rate for swine flu in California from April to January was about 8500 people. source (new window)

California's population (other source new window) was 36,756,666. Let's assume for the sake of argument that the infection rate was, I dunno, 5 times hospitalization rate. That's 42,500 people.

42,500/36,756,666 = .00116 or 0.1156% infection rate. That's 1 in 864 people.

Conclusion: NOT a pandemic.

/if an idiot can figure this out...
 
2010-02-06 01:30:06 PM  
Aarontology: In other news, almost half of Americans got their definition of "pandemic" from Hollywood disaster movies. Kinda like how they get their knowledge of forensics from CSI.

What are you talking about? Aren't all forensics done by once attractive women long past their prime in dimly lit rooms?

/TV doesn't lie
 
2010-02-06 01:31:40 PM  
AmazingRuss: Mangoose: AmazingRuss: Still 7 billion people swarming over the land and see... wasn't much of an epidemic.

Am I supposed to see that it wasn't much of epidemic. I'm confused as to your usage of the pause.

There's a reason we react to flu the way we do. That's because, in it's many forms, it has racked up one of the greatest death counts of any illness. It's a serious contender for number 1. A new flu strain can conceivably wipe out millions upon millions. And they have. There are epidemics of flu that have estimated kill counts that are higher than WWI and II combined. Sometimes a little worry is both prudent and justified you slack-jawed monkey.

Go fap with your hand sanitizer, bubble boy.


Using the hand sanitizer makes me think about the time I had sex with the large woman in a greyhound bus bathroom.
 
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