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2010-02-05 09:48:51 PM  
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2010-02-05 10:51:06 PM  
Maybe because we saw our parents sacrifice their lives for a company that turned around and fired them five years before retirement. We're not going to kill ourselves working for a company that doesn't care about us.

\My boss is an asshole
 
2010-02-05 10:55:18 PM  
And I'm that boss. I'm not paying you to tell everybody in the office about your level 50 Douchebag in Ass Effect 2. STFU/GBTW.
 
2010-02-05 10:58:23 PM  
Toots McGee: And I'm that boss. I'm not paying you to tell everybody in the office about your level 50 Douchebag in Ass Effect 2. STFU/GBTW.

My Generation Y employee is a farking slacker. Always on Fark when he should be working.

\Like now
 
2010-02-05 11:00:36 PM  
I break my back each day at work. With that said, I am not loyal to my company and if another opportunity presents itself I will jump on that faster than you can even imagine. I say this only because I know deep down that my company and almost every single other one out there is not loyal to their workers and you have to look out for yourself.

I don't care how old you are, you're either a great worker or you're not. Age has nothing to do with it.
 
2010-02-05 11:05:01 PM  
Look! I even caught that lazy bastard drinking on company time!

avatar.movetoiceland.com
 
2010-02-05 11:09:01 PM  
Duudeee, that's so rude. I'm going to tweet all my friends about your insensitivity.
 
2010-02-05 11:10:04 PM  
There's plenty of people out there better qualified than you at your job, your employer just hasn't found them yet. It's never a good idea to give them a reason to start looking.
 
2010-02-05 11:40:27 PM  

Toots McGee: There's plenty of people out there better qualified than you at your job, your employer just hasn't found them yet. It's never a good idea to give them a reason to start looking.


Unless you're hiring someone to man a deep fryer, it's a giant pain in the ass to replace someone who is competent to do the same job. Turnover farks things up if you're doing things more complicated than sticking your arms into a bucket of fish.

If you're one of those people who constantly treats people like they're always expendable, you're a giant gaping asshole, and your unit is not performing as it should under a competent manager.
 
2010-02-06 01:23:35 AM  
I'm Gen X (age 37) and way more qualified/smarter than any Gen Yer, and I still can't get a decent job.
 
2010-02-06 01:58:05 AM  

The Icelander: Maybe because we saw our parents sacrifice their lives for a company that turned around and fired them five years before retirement. We're not going to kill ourselves working for a company that doesn't care about us.

\My boss is an asshole


SO MUCH THAT. I watched the majority of the big players adopt the attitude that their workers are replaceable cogs and no more. I saw my father going through every day f*cking miserable and working himself to the bone for twenty years for a company that spent the last five of those trying to find any excuse to get rid of him (and turn his position over to a more junior employee making half what he did). I watched him spend the next eight years after that fighting the company tooth and nail to get his contractually agreed-upon benefits honored. And beyond all that, I've seen how much of a waste of time it is to sacrifice your life chasing after money to buy sh*t you don't need and/or won't have time to enjoy.

As a result, I have a job I sometimes enjoy and rarely loathe. The pay's not perfect, but it's what I need to take care of the necessities, plus a buck or two left over for luxuries. My schedule is such that I get my work done while still having an above-average amount of time to spend doing the things I enjoy. You can take your soul-sucking claw to the top and shove it up your ass.
 
2010-02-06 02:51:30 AM  

Occam's Chainsaw:
As a result, I have a job I sometimes enjoy and rarely loathe. The pay's not perfect, but it's what I need to take care of the necessities, plus a buck or two left over for luxuries. My schedule is such that I get my work done while still having an above-average amount of time to spend doing the things I enjoy. You can take your soul-sucking claw to the top and shove it up your ass.


As a Generation Y employee, so much this. Yeah, I'm well aware that if "changes have to be made", my boss who's been nice to me for three years won't have the slightest problem showing me the door. So I'm going to give my 40 hours of work per week, with occasionally some extra if the situation really calls for it, and I'm going to go to Fark and Facebook occasionally during work. You're going to get what you pay for in an employee, and we both know it isn't going to be a lifelong relationship. If it were a 35-year deal with a pension, I'd show a little more loyalty, but things don't work that way anymore. Neither do the employees.
 
2010-02-06 03:14:07 AM  

Epsilon: I'm Gen X (age 37) and way more qualified/smarter than any Gen Yer, and I still can't get a decent job.


You want some cheese to go with that whine?

P.S. I'm 41
 
2010-02-06 04:51:24 AM  
I swear, this article has been reprinted every year since at least the early 60's. The next generation is ALWAYS a bunch of lazy good-for-nothing slackers, just as the current group of politicians are ALWAYS the most corrupt in history.

There's always some asshole who thinks everything was better in the past.
 
2010-02-06 06:58:09 AM  
Hell I'm 27 and I've seen this. When I have a choice I'd much rather work with someone older than me than younger, things get done so much faster and easier without a bunch of drama.
 
2010-02-06 07:01:49 AM  

Cagey B: Toots McGee: There's plenty of people out there better qualified than you at your job, your employer just hasn't found them yet. It's never a good idea to give them a reason to start looking.

Unless you're hiring someone to man a deep fryer, it's a giant pain in the ass to replace someone who is competent to do the same job. Turnover farks things up if you're doing things more complicated than sticking your arms into a bucket of fish.

If you're one of those people who constantly treats people like they're always expendable, you're a giant gaping asshole, and your unit is not performing as it should under a competent manager.


I've seen even the bucket of fish level jobs get farked up by that management style. High turnover rates are usually bad news.
 
2010-02-06 07:02:46 AM  
Isn't Gen Y in their late 20s/early 30s now? I'm 25 and was led to believe that I was iGeneration or something.

Silly, meaningless labels, of course. As a recent graduate, I completely agree that the lion's share of my peers are spoiled, entitled children with no sense of courtesy or responsibility.

Thankfully, my step-father beat that out of me (only semi-literally) in middle school.
 
2010-02-06 07:03:30 AM  
I've seen a lot of this from Gen Y'ers and, yes, from some Gen X'ers, too. In many instances, the people were just lazy pieces of shiat who didn't want to do the slightest bit more than they had to do.

But the other side of the coin is that my employers didn't give them very much incentive. Salaries were lower, loyalty was non-existent on both sides, and not a damn time did anybody from above say something as simple to them as, "Thanks, you did a good job."

So what do people expect when they treat others like that?
 
2010-02-06 07:06:07 AM  
Our parents were all drugged-up over-sexed hippies and we're the ones that get ragged on? Oh please...
 
2010-02-06 07:06:53 AM  
Might this be the result of not giving them enough work? I recall a recent study that many employers weren't allowing any of their younger workers to get new experience with projects, and opted instead to simply overwork their more experienced workers.
 
2010-02-06 07:07:58 AM  
Wow, the same repeated article since the dawn of time.
 
2010-02-06 07:09:49 AM  
A Gen Y was escorted out of my building just yesterday for playing WoW at work up to 6 hours per day, and had a habit of falling asleep in his cube because he played all night.

I also enjoy waiting in lines at retail stores because the cashier is busy talking on the phone.
 
2010-02-06 07:10:13 AM  
It's not that paticular generation that's the problem, it's the sense of entitlement that some people have, mostly the young and the protected snowflakes of any age.
\my lawn...off it
 
2010-02-06 07:10:16 AM  
The only GenYs I know are strippers. They work plenty hard for those dollars.
 
2010-02-06 07:12:46 AM  

Gunther: I swear, this article has been reprinted every year since at least the early 60's. The next generation is ALWAYS a bunch of lazy good-for-nothing slackers, just as the current group of politicians are ALWAYS the most corrupt in history.

There's always some asshole who thinks everything was better in the past.


This. It never changes. The only truth to it is the general truth that youngsters have a few things to learn. 99% mature and learn those things.
The world continues to turn.
Of course, employee loyalty is a different matter - after 30 years of corporatist neoconservatism, that's pretty much gone - but then, that whole system has to go, anyway. And when things get bad enough, it will.
 
2010-02-06 07:14:06 AM  
EMO KIDS NEEDS TO DIE
 
2010-02-06 07:14:45 AM  
need
 
2010-02-06 07:17:48 AM  
Wait a minute. They are talking about my generation. I was the youngest supervisor in company history. STFU.
 
2010-02-06 07:19:14 AM  
I am one of the last of Generation Y and the first of the "iGen" (name courtesy of Wikipedia), being that my parents both straddled the line between baby boomers and Gen X. From what I've seen, the "iGen" will be the next hippies, but a special brand of hippies that are technologically savvy. But that's just my prediction.
 
2010-02-06 07:19:47 AM  

Racht:
As a Generation Y employee, so much this. Yeah, I'm well aware that if "changes have to be made", my boss who's been nice to me for three years won't have the slightest problem showing me the door. So I'm going to give my 40 hours of work per week, with occasionally some extra if the situation really calls for it, and I'm going to go to Fark and Facebook occasionally during work. You're going to get what you pay for in an employee, and we both know it isn't going to be a lifelong relationship. If it were a 35-year deal with a pension, I'd show a little more loyalty, but things don't work that way anymore. Neither do the employees.


This is one of the many reasons I'm a fireman. I love my job and I'm garuanteed a pension (at least for the foreseeable future). I'll never make a ton of money, and I'll probably die earlier than most due to cancer. But I have almost zero stress, I like the people I work with, and I have fun everyday. I'll take that any day of the week.

/and I drive a big red fire truck
 
2010-02-06 07:21:43 AM  
. . . but I can't spell "guaranteed"
 
2010-02-06 07:22:12 AM  

disgustip8ed:
This is one of the many reasons I'm a fireman. I love my job and I'm garuanteed a pension (at least for the foreseeable future). I'll never make a ton of money, and I'll probably die earlier than most due to cancer. But I have almost zero stress, I like the people I work with, and I have fun everyday. I'll take that any day of the week.

/and I drive a big red fire truck


Cool story, bro. No really, I'm glad you are having fun actually making a difference.

\Not that I would want to become a firefighter any time soon.
 
2010-02-06 07:23:48 AM  
I wish I had that facebook fail pic at hand, where somebody is complaining about her job and her boss responds to it.
 
2010-02-06 07:28:20 AM  

disgustip8ed: . . . but I can't spell "guaranteed"


LoL
 
2010-02-06 07:30:28 AM  
Ask and ye shall receive...

2.bp.blogspot.com

/Hot like the boss' response
 
2010-02-06 07:35:59 AM  

merc16: Our parents were all drugged-up over-sexed hippies and we're the ones that get ragged on? Oh please...


Well, part of this is an excuse for the fact that there aren't any jobs for you anyway. The Reaganomics program worked by leaving a part of the working class with just enough bread and circuses to keep them content, while shovelling the nation's wealth into the pockets of the top 5%.
But it was financed on credit - and the bank is just about broke.
The tipping point is almost here - when the majority become have-nots.
In the long run, the masses get what they want, and when things get bad enough - they'll change.
It's a Ponzi scheme, and everybody from the "young boomers" (born after '50) and later gets farked. We aren't anywhere near where we had to get to in the Thirties, yet - but if nothing changes, we'll get there. We are already at the point that 40% of Americans only "health plan" is the emergency room. When that number reaches 51% - look out, brother.
 
2010-02-06 07:39:00 AM  

Flapjack727: I am one of the last of Generation Y and the first of the "iGen" (name courtesy of Wikipedia), being that my parents both straddled the line between baby boomers and Gen X. From what I've seen, the "iGen" will be the next hippies, but a special brand of hippies that are technologically savvy. But that's just my prediction.


The next brand of Wobblies, more likely. A "socialist" is a "libertarian" who just got his layoff notice and his foreclosure letter.
 
2010-02-06 07:39:45 AM  
Epsilon:

I'm Gen X (age 37) and way more qualified/smarter than any Gen Yer, and I still can't get a decent job.

My job doesn't pay much, but it has health insurance

.
 
2010-02-06 07:40:08 AM  
From a different thread:

RemyDuron 2009-07-12 06:46:32 PM
IronTom: Whatever happened to respect your elders?

Technology and society began to advance at such a rate that elders began to appear not only stodgy and strict, which they always were, but often ignorant and bigoted compared to the youth. Instead of being the keepers of knowledge, elders became more like lost and angry children in a world they could no longer understand. Tradition, instead of being unifying, became constrictive and divisive and seemingly pointless.



I'm sure that plays a big role too.
 
2010-02-06 07:43:33 AM  
merc16:

Our parents were all drugged-up over-sexed hippies who can work circles around us to this day and we're the ones that get ragged on? Oh please...

FTFY

.
 
2010-02-06 07:46:10 AM  

Sand in my Pants!: From a different thread:

RemyDuron 2009-07-12 06:46:32 PM
IronTom: Whatever happened to respect your elders?

Technology and society began to advance at such a rate that elders began to appear not only stodgy and strict, which they always were, but often ignorant and bigoted compared to the youth. Instead of being the keepers of knowledge, elders became more like lost and angry children in a world they could no longer understand. Tradition, instead of being unifying, became constrictive and divisive and seemingly pointless.


I'm sure that plays a big role too.


RemyDuron 2009-07-12 07:09:32 PM

It felt good when I was typing it, although it seems sort of condescending and nasty upon rereading. Not really what I intended, and I was speaking rather generally. There are certainly people of older generations worth respecting and traditions worth upholding, but those judgments should be made individually and mere age of a person or practice does not prove it is wise.



I figured I should add this part too, to be fair.
 
2010-02-06 07:47:27 AM  
My boss is from Gen Y. He's a total douche.

I had a few bosses from that age bracket and, except for one, they were doing more harm than good to the company, regarding business and also as community. Selfish, arrogant, irresponsible douchebags.
 
2010-02-06 07:48:23 AM  

SemiSpook: Ask and ye shall receive...

/Hot like the boss' response


While I realize this is supposed to be one of those "oh SNAP" moments, to me, the "boss"'s response and attitude is just as, if not more, cringe-worthily immature than that of the girl making the comment. Very unprofessional (although at least he's mostly literate).

/ Self-employed
// Also poor as shiat, but at least I don't have to worry about bosses or employees
 
2010-02-06 07:48:51 AM  

disgustip8ed: . . . but I can't spell "guaranteed"


Well, no one's perfect.

Fortunately, it's a skill you'll probably never need to put out a fire.
 
2010-02-06 07:50:03 AM  

The Icelander: Maybe because we saw our parents sacrifice their lives for a company that turned around and fired them five years before retirement. We're not going to kill ourselves working for a company that doesn't care about us.

\My boss is an asshole


I'm this guy's boss, FYI.

This guy farks around all damned day--his job is to fill out three reports. THREE REPORTS.

This hacky-sack motherfarker can't even manage to adhere to the company dress code. He shows up in his toes to the nose t-shirt and wrinkled khakis, like he just came from a Panic at the Disco concert.

He's totally undependable, and I think he has a marijuana habit. I'm considering firing him, but it's crossed my mind that it would probably just be cheaper to have him liquidated.
 
2010-02-06 07:50:29 AM  

Sand in my Pants!: From a different thread:

RemyDuron 2009-07-12 06:46:32 PM
IronTom: Whatever happened to respect your elders?

Technology and society began to advance at such a rate that elders began to appear not only stodgy and strict, which they always were, but often ignorant and bigoted compared to the youth. Instead of being the keepers of knowledge, elders became more like lost and angry children in a world they could no longer understand. Tradition, instead of being unifying, became constrictive and divisive and seemingly pointless.


I'm sure that plays a big role too.


A great role. I have never gotten anything but appreciation and respect and hard work out of the younger people who have worked for or under me - but that's because I've always understood that it's a two way street. Sadly, right now we are in a cycle where the corporatists have been able to treat workers as expendable for a quarter-century - and it's just beginning to dawn on them that while workers may be "expendable" - consumers aren't.
If you are a boss, and you treat people like adults and colleagues - 99% of the time that's what you'll get. Treat people like cattle, and that's what you'll get.
 
2010-02-06 07:51:48 AM  

Gunther: I swear, this article has been reprinted every year since at least the early 60's. The next generation is ALWAYS a bunch of lazy good-for-nothing slackers, just as the current group of politicians are ALWAYS the most corrupt in history.

There's always some asshole who thinks everything was better in the past.


Everything was better in the pasHEY fark YOU PAL
 
2010-02-06 07:52:27 AM  
I was going to write a big rant on how us Gen-Y's aren't lazy but...
 
2010-02-06 07:54:08 AM  
I'm kind of torn on this one. We see a lot of new hires/new grads and I see exactly what they're talking about. They're unprofessional, they take their job for granted, they come in hungover all the time, they goof of way too much, work is just a big party or social function. They really are pretty shiatty employees.

But at the same time - they're in their 20s and this is probably their first career-level job. I think it's unreasonable to think they'll enter the workplace aligned with whatever in-place culture you've established. They've never been in the professional world and we all know high-school and college really is one big party. Of course they suck, that's all they know.

Generation-Y isn't the problem. Incompetent mangers are the problem. Bad employees? Stop complaining and start leading. You don't manage people from behind your desk.
 
2010-02-06 07:54:42 AM  

PacersJAM3s: I break my back each day at work. With that said, I am not loyal to my company and if another opportunity presents itself I will jump on that faster than you can even imagine. I say this only because I know deep down that my company and almost every single other one out there is not loyal to their workers and you have to look out for yourself.

I don't care how old you are, you're either a great worker or you're not. Age has nothing to do with it.


I couldn't have said it better myself. And although I do feel like I'm with a good company (relatively speaking), it still appears that the only prerequisite for advancement is how long you've been there.
 
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