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(Fox News)   Most Americans want a "do-over" on health reform, suffer from delusion that they have any control over it and that it would turn out at all different   (foxnews.com) divider line 54
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2010-02-05 08:14:45 PM  
I'd like a "do-over" on this entire past decade. Thanks.
 
2010-02-05 08:15:42 PM  
I'll take a "do-over" on your mom, because it was fantastic.
 
2010-02-05 08:16:14 PM  
OnmyojiOmn: I'll take a "do-over" on your mom, because it was fantastic.

damn, already taken.
 
2010-02-05 08:18:23 PM  
I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm

www.jwpcivitasinstitute.org
aroundthesphere.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-02-05 08:19:10 PM  
while only 23 percent say lawmakers believe the legislation before Congress is good policy.

Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.
 
2010-02-05 08:19:15 PM  
You know, people push back pretty well on a lot of bullshiat conservative talking points, but I don't think this idea that "most Americans" want one thing or another has gotten enough attention. "Most Americans", including the "Real Americans" Fox panders to, are too busy with their own concerns to care much about politics.
 
2010-02-05 08:20:22 PM  
Well now that we know the Republicans won't go along with anything no matter what, hopefully the Dems won't spend months courting them this time.
 
2010-02-05 08:20:23 PM  
wilshire: OnmyojiOmn: I'll take a "do-over" on your mom, because it was fantastic.

damn, already taken.


That never me
 
2010-02-05 08:21:10 PM  
That *never* stopped me

/from accidentally the whole thing
 
2010-02-05 08:22:12 PM  
cato113: That *never* stopped me

/from accidentally the whole thing


I am disappoint.
 
2010-02-05 08:23:32 PM  
smitty04: Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.

smitty04: Everyone I know in Chicago admits that Chicago sucks.

You know so many people with so many opinions!

WHO ELSE DO YOU KNOW!? WHAT IS IT THAT THEY THINK!?!
 
2010-02-05 08:26:16 PM  
Dusk-You-n-Me: smitty04: Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.

smitty04: Everyone I know in Chicago admits that Chicago sucks.

You know so many people with so many opinions!

WHO ELSE DO YOU KNOW!? WHAT IS IT THAT THEY THINK!?!


You know who else do it what is think that they?

img.slate.com
 
2010-02-05 08:26:53 PM  
amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).
 
2010-02-05 08:27:12 PM  
Hey, we went for the "do-over" plan in 1993-94 and it worked out great. Right?
 
2010-02-05 08:30:21 PM  
The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm
smitty04: while only 23 percent say lawmakers believe the legislation before Congress is good policy.

Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.


Well, since congress was immune to this bill, it is easy for someone to be against it. If it ain't good enough for the public servants, why should the public take it?
 
2010-02-05 08:31:10 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).


Why you gotta go and DO a thing?
 
2010-02-05 08:31:36 PM  
The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm

10 years of butthurt? Thats farking committment right there. You might as well eat a bullet, you are to far gone in your bitterness to contribute anything worthwhile
 
2010-02-05 08:32:05 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).


You know, I almost think I prefer the Kenyan black guy remarks to the teleprompter ones. At least he's the only demonstrably black President we've ever had. He is not the first TOTUS.
 
2010-02-05 08:34:42 PM  
Trollomite: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm

10 years of butthurt? Thats farking committment right there. You might as well eat a bullet, you are to far gone in your bitterness to contribute anything worthwhile


ahahaha. Trollomite. grade-A troll-level stupid right there.

/more people voted for gore
 
2010-02-05 08:34:48 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm
smitty04: while only 23 percent say lawmakers believe the legislation before Congress is good policy.

Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.

Well, since congress was immune to this bill, it is easy for someone to be against it. If it ain't good enough for the public servants, why should the public take it?


Becuase they are your better citizen
 
2010-02-05 08:35:37 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese - Say... would sending Obama into a roomful of Republicans for a QA sassion without teleprompter support be akin to sending him into a boxing match with one hand tied behind his back, or with two hands tied behind his back?

What do you think?
 
2010-02-05 08:37:23 PM  
Homer Nixon: tenpoundsofcheese: amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).

You know, I almost think I prefer the Kenyan black guy remarks to the teleprompter ones. At least he's the only demonstrably black President we've ever had. He is not the first TOTUS.


1. You forgot Bill Clinton.
2. I am amazed that given the communication skills of Obama and the technical prowess of the TOTUS, that the public doesn't understand the bill
3. Amazing that they believe that Fox News could derail something that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, etc are all pulling for what Obama wants.
 
2010-02-05 08:39:03 PM  
I'd like a "do-over" of last election's GOP VP nominee. Probably wouldn't have made a bit of difference in the outcome, but it was the harkening of a new era of low partisanship. Making that buffoon a candidate was McCains concession speech.
 
2010-02-05 08:40:21 PM  
Scrotar: tenpoundsofcheese - Say... would sending Obama into a roomful of Republicans for a QA sassion without teleprompter support be akin to sending him into a boxing match with one hand tied behind his back, or with two hands tied behind his back?

What do you think?


Neither. There is a lot of respect for the office.

Don't tell me that you think that he isn't overly reliant on his teleprompter.
 
2010-02-05 08:41:01 PM  
smitty04: while only 23 percent say lawmakers believe the legislation before Congress is good policy.

Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.


Yeah, I don't anyone that likes it either. That obviously means nobody likes it.

/except people we don't know
 
2010-02-05 08:41:23 PM  
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Trollomite: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm

10 years of butthurt? Thats farking committment right there. You might as well eat a bullet, you are to far gone in your bitterness to contribute anything worthwhile

ahahaha. Trollomite. grade-A troll-level stupid right there.

/more people voted for gore


Apparently the SCOTUS didn't see it that way. The butthurt still remains though doesn't it. 10 years is long time to cry. You'll either get over it, or you can recharge it in 2012. You just can't argue with a conspiracy theorist. I'll let you get back to your bellyaching. It was 10 farking years ago! You still pine away for the first biatch that broke your heart too dont ya?
 
2010-02-05 08:41:47 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: I'd like a "do-over" of last election's GOP VP nominee. Probably wouldn't have made a bit of difference in the outcome, but it was the harkening of a new era of low partisanship. Making that buffoon a candidate was McCains concession speech.

and Obama's victory speech though so not all bad
 
2010-02-05 08:42:40 PM  
Resin33: smitty04: while only 23 percent say lawmakers believe the legislation before Congress is good policy.

Must be that young people like it. I only know one person that likes the current bill.

Yeah, I don't anyone that likes it either. That obviously means nobody likes it.

/except people we don't know


I have never been asked a poll question
 
2010-02-05 08:42:45 PM  
I'd like a do-over without the pandering to the middleman and insurance interert PACs. We've become entrenched in a cash circle jerk.

I'd also like a do-over with pandering to shiatty bureaucrats that don't give a shiate about anything but tenure and gumming things up.
 
2010-02-05 08:43:51 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Homer Nixon: tenpoundsofcheese: amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).

You know, I almost think I prefer the Kenyan black guy remarks to the teleprompter ones. At least he's the only demonstrably black President we've ever had. He is not the first TOTUS.

1. You forgot Bill Clinton.


Hexidecimally speaking, I meant.
 
2010-02-05 08:44:36 PM  
Trollomite: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Trollomite: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'd like a "do-over" on this tyvm

10 years of butthurt? Thats farking committment right there. You might as well eat a bullet, you are to far gone in your bitterness to contribute anything worthwhile

ahahaha. Trollomite. grade-A troll-level stupid right there.

/more people voted for gore

Apparently the SCOTUS didn't see it that way. The butthurt still remains though doesn't it. 10 years is long time to cry. You'll either get over it, or you can recharge it in 2012. You just can't argue with a conspiracy theorist. I'll let you get back to your bellyaching. It was 10 farking years ago! You still pine away for the first biatch that broke your heart too dont ya?


I know you're just a retarded troll

but you do realize that the effect of that "10 year old" decisions are clearly still with us? in fact the most direct, retarded-man-child-related effect only left office a year ago?
 
2010-02-05 08:54:32 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Scrotar: tenpoundsofcheese - Say... would sending Obama into a roomful of Republicans for a QA sassion without teleprompter support be akin to sending him into a boxing match with one hand tied behind his back, or with two hands tied behind his back?

What do you think?

Neither. There is a lot of respect for the office.

Don't tell me that you think that he isn't overly reliant on his teleprompter.


You lie!
 
2010-02-05 08:55:47 PM  
Most Americans are idiots.

If the current health care bill fails, history tells us we're not going to get another crack at a "do-over" for another 15-30 years. By that point, escalating health care costs and the increasing numbers of uninsured will leave us with a health care system that's well and truly farked.
 
2010-02-05 08:59:26 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Scrotar: tenpoundsofcheese - Say... would sending Obama into a roomful of Republicans for a QA sassion without teleprompter support be akin to sending him into a boxing match with one hand tied behind his back, or with two hands tied behind his back?

What do you think?

Neither. There is a lot of respect for the office.

Don't tell me that you think that he isn't overly reliant on his teleprompter.


I don't, but I also happen to think it's a nonissue. Who do you go to as the exemplar of presidential poise?
 
2010-02-05 09:00:51 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Scrotar: tenpoundsofcheese - Say... would sending Obama into a roomful of Republicans for a QA sassion without teleprompter support be akin to sending him into a boxing match with one hand tied behind his back, or with two hands tied behind his back?

What do you think?

Neither. There is a lot of respect for the office.

Don't tell me that you think that he isn't overly reliant on his teleprompter.


The man gives speeches almost daily. Every one is written down, recorded and scrutinized. We are in troubled times, and a large part of his job is visible leadership. OF COURSE HE USES A TELEPROMPTER! All presidents do. The notes for the Gettysburg Address are an important historical document.

Are you ret... mentally challenged?
 
2010-02-05 09:00:54 PM  
wilshire:

I don't, but I also happen to think it's a nonissue. Who do you go to as the exemplar of presidential poise?


Probably Gerry Ford
 
2010-02-05 09:04:40 PM  
The All-Powerful Atheismo: wilshire:

I don't, but I also happen to think it's a nonissue. Who do you go to as the exemplar of presidential poise?

Probably Gerry Ford


Fore!
 
2010-02-05 09:31:27 PM  
Whatever. I'll take your word for it, subby.

/fark Fox news
//don't click on it
///don't give the idiots who cheered on the teabaggers any needed page views kplsthxbye
 
2010-02-05 09:32:10 PM  
Perhaps this time they'll at least keep some kind of meaningful reform in it instead of of putting us all in a box marked "Rape contents at will" and mailing it to the insurance companies.

/Every other developed country in the entire world has figured this out
//Jesus Farking Christ!
 
2010-02-05 09:42:36 PM  
Why don't the states just do their own health care plans like Massachusetts did?
 
2010-02-05 10:18:38 PM  
The teleprompter has been around for a quarter-century, and suddenly it becomes the Mark of the Beast.

You gotta give the hysteria industry its due--they are a creative bunch

.
 
2010-02-05 10:20:09 PM  
Noam Chimpsky: Why don't the states just do their own health care plans like Massachusetts did?

Lead balloon. That's how well it'd go over, especially in states too broke to even count people, never mind actually provide health care for them.

Universal healthcare. It's not hard - other civilized nations handle it just fine.
 
2010-02-05 10:35:12 PM  
Most Americans want a "do-over" on health reform

So given the huge mess, political bickering and monsterous problems that we have been going through for months now trying to get the current health care reform passed, people are still willing to go through it all again?

Wow, sounds to me like the general public wants health reform and wants it bad.
 
2010-02-05 10:57:49 PM  
Doc Daneeka: Most Americans are idiots.

If the current health care bill fails, history tells us we're not going to get another crack at a "do-over" for another 15-30 years. By that point, escalating health care costs and the increasing numbers of uninsured will leave us with a health care system that's well and truly farked.



Wait, it isn't now? I have been misinformed.

Cheers.

/I am entertained yet saddened every time I read the politics tab.
 
2010-02-05 10:58:01 PM  
tenpoundsofcheese: Homer Nixon: tenpoundsofcheese: amazing that the results are so favorable for the bill given how poorly it was communicated.
The TOTUS (teleprompter of the US) never clearly laid out the specifics of the goals. Only some generalizations (e.g. fix the problem, help those who need help).

You know, I almost think I prefer the Kenyan black guy remarks to the teleprompter ones. At least he's the only demonstrably black President we've ever had. He is not the first TOTUS.

1. You forgot Bill Clinton.
2. I am amazed that given the communication skills of Obama and the technical prowess of the TOTUS, that the public doesn't understand the bill
3. Amazing that they believe that Fox News could derail something that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, etc are all pulling for what Obama wants.


Don't worry, your team will win next time. Then you can stop sulking. :D
 
2010-02-05 10:59:52 PM  
Noam Chimpsky: Why don't the states just do their own health care plans like Massachusetts did?

Most states can't run deficits. Their constitutions make it illegal. A state run plan would see it's highest influx of applicants during periods of poor economic growth when work-based insurance is declining. These times would also be when state income is at it's lowest. You would either force a lot people off their plans when they need it the most (and defeat the perks defeat the purpose of having a near full ensured population) or throw the state into a vicious budget fight to try the money. And since a program like this is going to be highly experimental in it's first forms (not to mention a scapegoat and bogey man among more conservative politicians) the program itself will likely end up on the chopping block.
 
2010-02-05 11:59:36 PM  
when congress turns over a vast number of seats this november to the republicans we'll finally have an open and honest discussion on health care. Dem's blew their chance for a liberal wet dream, welcome back to reality
 
2010-02-06 12:03:16 AM  
Le Grand Inquisitor: when congress turns over a vast number of seats this november to the republicans we'll finally have an open and honest discussion on health care.

Good point. With Republicans at the helm, we'll finally be able to have that honest discussion and remove death panels and health care coverage for animals from the bill.
 
2010-02-06 12:42:07 AM  
It's not that universal health care doesn't work - it's that AMERICANS can't make it work. Big difference.
 
2010-02-06 02:00:33 AM  
Le Grand Inquisitor: when congress turns over a vast number of seats this november to the republicans we'll finally have an open and honest discussion on health care. completely ignore the issue for another 16 years and hope it magically goes away
 
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