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(The New York Times)   "Advocates plan a Poverty Olympics on Sunday. Competitions include Skating Around Poverty and Welfare Hurdles. Mascots include a cockroach and a rat"   (nytimes.com) divider line 39
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2010-02-05 11:13:00 AM
FTFA: Two men started fighting. One brandished a bicycle seat, the other a salad that spilled onto the sidewalk.

So basically the worst poverty in Canada has to offer is a humorous "Bumfights"-style clash of bicycle seats and salads?
 
2010-02-05 11:40:54 AM
Both winners and losers are expected to be poor sports about the whole thing.
 
2010-02-05 11:42:03 AM
Cagey B: FTFA: Two men started fighting. One brandished a bicycle seat, the other a salad that spilled onto the sidewalk.

Your salad-style is no match for my bikeseat-fu!
 
2010-02-05 11:43:17 AM
I live besides the DTES you could drop a atomic bomb on the area and not tell the difference
 
2010-02-05 11:44:08 AM
I want to watch the Sterno chug.
 
2010-02-05 11:46:09 AM
FTFA: "North America's festering sore of what do with its homeless and disenfranchised is crystallized in a few short blocks,"

You sterilize a festering sore and kill off all the bacteria. Same solution here we just don't have the stones to do it.
 
2010-02-05 11:46:20 AM
In competition earlier today at the Poverty Olympics, Gene Masseth (address unknown) won three gold and one silver medals, which he promptly traded for two bottles of malt liquor and a half-pack of Old Gold cigarettes...
 
2010-02-05 11:46:28 AM
Sounds like it'll beat the sh*t out of the real Olympics anyway.
Lots of fuss over crappy sports nobody likes. Bag of bollocks.
 
2010-02-05 11:46:29 AM
We have two shelters here in Austin that will provide the homeless with medical care, drug and alcohol rehabilitation, clothing and job placement assistance. They are funded through private donations and grants from the city. Instead of seizing on the opportunity to better themselves the homeless of Austin instead turned the locations into the filthiest most crime-ridden area in the city. Instead of using the shelters amenities they instead use it as soon kind of auction house to share booze and drugs. Rather than use the shelters bathrooms which are all of thirty feet away they urinate and defecate into the nearby alleyways.

I have absolutely no sympathy for them and PR stunts such as this do nothing to sway me.

Now if we're talking about an individual who has lost his home due to unforeseen financial or medical issues and is actively working to improve his situation, hell yeah. Here's some cash for clothes and a number for a friend of mine who needs some yardwork done.
 
2010-02-05 11:46:39 AM
No "Im Gonna Get You Sucker" reference?

The ghetto games had the guys doing the 100 yard dash while carrying a TV on their shoulder and Police dogs chasing them...

Fark... you have failed me
 
2010-02-05 11:53:21 AM
smerfnablin: No "Im Gonna Get You Sucker" reference?

The ghetto games had the guys doing the 100 yard dash while carrying a TV on their shoulder and Police dogs chasing them...

Fark... you have failed me


how about you make the reference yourself you lazy fark. This isn't a Fark welfare program. You don't just get to mooch off our references without putting in any of your own work. Ya bum!
 
2010-02-05 11:53:50 AM
Contrabulous Flabtraption: FTFA: "North America's festering sore of what do with its homeless and disenfranchised is crystallized in a few short blocks,"

You sterilize a festering sore and kill off all the bacteria. Same solution here we just don't have the stones to do it.


/Snert!

Either the stones or the grade A Psyco mindset it would take to kill folks for being homeless.

/But hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
2010-02-05 11:58:28 AM
offacue: I want to watch the Sterno chug.

I want to see the can-filled shopping cart races.
 
2010-02-05 11:59:18 AM
RonEdwards
smerfnablin: No "Im Gonna Get You Sucker" reference?

The ghetto games had the guys doing the 100 yard dash while carrying a TV on their shoulder and Police dogs chasing them...

Fark... you have failed me

how about you make the reference yourself you lazy fark. This isn't a Fark welfare program. You don't just get to mooch off our references without putting in any of your own work. Ya bum!


www.forumammo.com
 
2010-02-05 11:59:29 AM
So a dinner is being served?
 
2010-02-05 12:08:04 PM
For some reason, I want Colbert to cover this when he's up there. I don't know why, I just think it'd be funny.
 
2010-02-05 12:12:48 PM
Mascots include a cockroach and a rat

What, no sloth?
 
2010-02-05 12:13:20 PM
RonEdwards: smerfnablin: No "Im Gonna Get You Sucker" reference?

The ghetto games had the guys doing the 100 yard dash while carrying a TV on their shoulder and Police dogs chasing them...

Fark... you have failed me

how about you make the reference yourself you lazy fark. This isn't a Fark welfare program. You don't just get to mooch off our references without putting in any of your own work. Ya bum!


Smack. Forget a newsletter, do you sell ribs?
 
2010-02-05 12:16:17 PM
Keep in mind that the reason Vancouver has a homeless problem is because it is the only point of land in the entire country that doesn't turn into permafrost during the winter.

So we get regular pilgrimmages of the destitute and downtrodden from other cities every fall, and they seem to go back every spring. So it's a seasonal thing.

The weird thing about the downtown eastside is that it is literally two blocks away from the financial nervous centre of the city. You cross a street and literally drop five income brackets -- from rich, corporate banking towers to slumsville. It's an odd thing to see.
 
2010-02-05 12:32:48 PM
farm3.static.flickr.com
Ya lousy bums!
 
2010-02-05 12:34:46 PM
Among the promises: construction of affordable housing, employment for residents and no displacement, as during previous Olympics, when residents were bused to the suburbs and abandoned.

What the motherf*ck?!
 
2010-02-05 12:37:07 PM
Ishkur: Keep in mind that the reason Vancouver has a homeless problem is because it is the only point of land in the entire country that doesn't turn into permafrost during the winter.


That is a slight over-exaggeration, don't you think? Given the amount of money being poured into the olympics, one would think that a little bit more money could be put into helping the homeless out... The city's idea of "dealing" with the homeless, at the moment, is putting them on buses to the Fraser Valley, and saying "Ya'll don't come back now .."
 
2010-02-05 12:40:19 PM
farm1.static.flickr.com

And the winners can celebrate with a heaping helping of hobo turducken!
 
2010-02-05 12:51:14 PM
Canadian Slums and Poverty LOL!

I've been to both East Vancouver and Jane n' Finch and could not stop laughing. There are yuppie neighborhoods in and around DC that don't look that nice and a lot more violent.

Call me when Canada has places like this:

www.planetizen.com
 
2010-02-05 01:28:23 PM
ghostwind: That is a slight over-exaggeration, don't you think?

No. As a local, I agree with Ishkur. Even Alberta premiere Ralph Klein once crassly suggested that their province would offer a bus ticket to Vancouver to their destitute so they could exploit our social services.

This article (pops) mentions that 1/3 of the people using a recently opened shelter are francophones from Eastern Canada. The article mentions that 8 percent of our homeless population are francophone, even though percentages for francophones for the province in general are around 1.5%.
 
2010-02-05 01:29:22 PM
ghostwind: Given the amount of money being poured into the olympics, one would think that a little bit more money could be put into helping the homeless out...

Look, I am not trying to justify what anybody is doing but let us get real.......

You do get that "All that money" that is being poured into the olympics is done with the hopes of reclaiming it right? I mean the idea is that you build a new hotel, and then can use the visitors to help cover the costs as they brought a whole lot of money to spend at the olympics.

My big point is their is not ROI when it comes to helping the homeless(well in terms of the olympics), so their is little reason to spend money on them.....
 
2010-02-05 01:35:20 PM
CapitolG: ghostwind: Given the amount of money being poured into the olympics, one would think that a little bit more money could be put into helping the homeless out...

Look, I am not trying to justify what anybody is doing but let us get real.......

You do get that "All that money" that is being poured into the olympics is done with the hopes of reclaiming it right? I mean the idea is that you build a new hotel, and then can use the visitors to help cover the costs as they brought a whole lot of money to spend at the olympics.

My big point is their is not ROI when it comes to helping the homeless(well in terms of the olympics), so their is little reason to spend money on them.....




This article fails to mention that after the Olympics the temporary buildings being used will be relocated for social housing. The government will be embarking on a large scale project.

So, yes, other than the new shelters that are opened (and often not used) the legacy of the Olympics will not just be a fancy Whistler village and a higway but social housing throughout BC.
 
2010-02-05 01:53:30 PM
www.palmettoscoop.com

DOES NOT APPROVE
 
2010-02-05 03:16:13 PM
sleeps in trees
So, yes, other than the new shelters that are opened (and often not used) the legacy of the Olympics will not just be a fancy Whistler village and a higway but social housing throughout BC.

The protesters' point is that although every government that's hosted Olympics has promised that, they have largely failed to deliver; and there's no reason to expect this to be any different, especially given that Canada and Vancouver will almost certainly lose money on the Games and will therefore be more interested in recouping as much money is possible afterwords rather than fulfill their non-binding promises.
 
2010-02-05 03:30:40 PM
RanDomino: sleeps in trees
So, yes, other than the new shelters that are opened (and often not used) the legacy of the Olympics will not just be a fancy Whistler village and a higway but social housing throughout BC.

The protesters' point is that although every government that's hosted Olympics has promised that, they have largely failed to deliver; and there's no reason to expect this to be any different, especially given that Canada and Vancouver will almost certainly lose money on the Games and will therefore be more interested in recouping as much money is possible afterwords rather than fulfill their non-binding promises.




How can they have failed to deliver if they haven't finished using the buildings yet. Further, the units have already been bought by the gov. (and there are a lot), and contracts are being shopped around.

I understand the skepticism but I find it a wee bit stupid to be protesting about a promise that they "think" won't be fulfilled. Futher, it's a know thing that these same people show up to ever protest ie: Woodward's tent city.

I suppose I'm a little resentful of the fact that they want housing, free drugs, free needles, free food and free medical attention. Meanwhile, I'm busting my ass to support my family. After a while it gets a little trying.
 
2010-02-05 04:27:59 PM
What's wrong with having a rat as a mascot?
farm5.static.flickr.com
 
2010-02-05 05:27:06 PM
Is this another event where everyone pretends poverty is caused by lack of money and ignore the elephant in the room? Sounds awkward.
 
2010-02-05 05:59:31 PM
I'd like to propose Minnie The Mooch as the games mascot. Hands?
 
2010-02-05 06:34:17 PM
Advocates plan a Poverty Olympics on Sunday, the brainchild of four Downtown Eastside groups. Competitions include Skating Around Poverty and Welfare Hurdles. Mascots include a cockroach and a rat.

Advocates? I do not think that word means what they think it means...


www.made2mentor.com
 
2010-02-05 07:02:22 PM
I saw the "poverty torch" yesterday in burnaby. I just wish i took a picture.

For your enjoyment.... Do You Believe? (new window)

/I believe!
 
2010-02-05 07:03:38 PM
No. As a local, I agree with Ishkur. Even Alberta premiere Ralph Klein once crassly suggested that their province would offer a bus ticket to Vancouver to their destitute so they could exploit our social services.


As mayor of Calgary he actually did bus homless people to Vancouver for the Olympics.
 
2010-02-05 07:36:27 PM
blazeon: I saw the "poverty torch" yesterday in burnaby. I just wish i took a picture.

For your enjoyment.... Do You Believe? (new window)

/I believe!




Dear god the video just makes them look like a bunch of drug addled nut bags. Not exactly what they are looking for.

As an aside, if these people are so poor, how the hell can they afford an 8 buck pack a day habit. shiat even I had to quit.
 
2010-02-06 12:25:19 AM
Really good recent documentary about the downtown east side
Streets of Plenty
Parts of it are on the goofy side, worth watching all the way through
 
2010-02-06 02:38:05 AM
sleeps in trees
How can they have failed to deliver if they haven't finished using the buildings yet.

Past
host governments/cities have failed to deliver on promises, and the anti-2010 people's websites have lots of arguments for why they think Vancouver will fail to deliver as well.

I suppose I'm a little resentful of the fact that they want housing, free drugs, free needles, free food and free medical attention. Meanwhile, I'm busting my ass to support my family. After a while it gets a little trying.

agreed- I despise charities that don't have any analysis of the systemic causes of poverty... so, basically, Christian charities; but otoh the on-the-ground full-time staff seem to often have a good understanding. But they're so overwhelmed that there's not much they can do about it; and they have the whole house of Capitalism stacked against them.
 
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