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		When pleading guilty to four bank robberies in front of the judge, don't volunteer information about the other 23 nobody knew about (reuters.com)		36
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HockeyGuy		2003-04-15 11:00:36 AM

So does this green mean that this will get posted on fark mainpage?! and I will get teh F-Rst post?

Evil Camel		2003-04-15 11:01:00 AM

...I'm shocked.

Jive_Turkey		2003-04-15 11:32:03 AM

04-15-03 11:00:36 AM HockeyGuy
So does this green mean that this will get posted on fark mainpage?! and I will get teh F-Rst post?

Yes Hockey. The glory is all yours

stevarooni		2003-04-15 12:27:41 PM

Maybe he was thinking that Double Jeopardy applies?

DownSouth		2003-04-15 12:37:24 PM

HockeyGuy if they turn bright pink run!

skinink		2003-04-15 12:55:55 PM

What does he have to fear owning up to robbing more banks ? Really, can jail be a hardship, if you've already worked at the Post Office ? This guy will probably run his cellblock.

"I told you biatch, sort my cigaretts FASTER !"

GCD		2003-04-15 03:14:31 PM

He's farked. Literally and later on, physically.

StockCars4Rednecks		2003-04-15 03:15:04 PM

How could you pull them off, then be stupid enough to blab about them in court? Darwinism works for criminals too, even Cazzie (WTF) got nipped. Cazzie... is that slang for Casbah?

Miles_OToole		2003-04-15 03:15:11 PM

23 other robberies during a four-year spree

One robbery every other month = spree?

StockCars4Rednecks		2003-04-15 03:16:04 PM

Maybe Cassandrew

ScreaminFreeman		2003-04-15 03:16:08 PM

sometimes you just gotta get it all out.

tressermckay		2003-04-15 03:16:45 PM

good help is so hard to find now-a-days.

Can't we, just for once, have an ordinary decent criminal?

ScreaminFreeman		2003-04-15 03:17:07 PM

DID MOMMY PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO YOU AS A CHILD?

Dave_Demonic		2003-04-15 03:18:31 PM

con 1: What are you in for?
con 2: 10 years for robbery, 30 for being stupid.

ISeeYourDisease		2003-04-15 03:19:37 PM

con 3: I'm innocent

mjording		2003-04-15 03:20:12 PM

so they did not know about the other 23 robberies? WTF
he probably was just trying to make a reputation for himself before he went to jail - i've heard that limits the number of people who cn claim you as their biatch

Quick1		2003-04-15 03:21:23 PM

So does this green mean that this will get posted on fark mainpage?! and I will get teh F-Rst post?

No, it means you're a loser that should go back to Slashdot, where people actually care about who gets the Boobies.

InternetSecurityGuard		2003-04-15 03:21:55 PM

In for a penny, in for a pound.

Llois		2003-04-15 03:22:07 PM

Tressermckay Excellent movie reference! I rented that a while back, the mooning scene in front of the courthouse made me almost wet myself.

AtomicToad		2003-04-15 03:22:08 PM

04-15-03 03:15:53 PM Maveno
Even if he admits that he robbed more, he probably won't get prosecuted for them.

Even if theoretically he couldn't get prosecuted for them, it was still a bad move to fess up to them before being sentenced. Right now he faces a maximum of 20 years for each of his 4 counts, or 80 years altogether, which is a life sentence. If he didn't fess up about the other 23, maybe he wouldn't have gotten the max. Now he's almost certain to get it. It looks like his life is over now.

modernhamlet		2003-04-15 03:25:22 PM

Quick1:

I care who gets the boobies!

Oh, that's not what you meant...

Move along folks, nothing to see here

Quick1		2003-04-15 03:26:26 PM

Wow, good filtering. I wonder how many variants Mike has put in there?

Samsin		2003-04-15 03:28:12 PM

sigh, sorry for being off topic but does anyone have a link to that picture with that guy with the caption " Awww jeez, not this shiat again"? I accidentally deleted my copy and have been looking for a new one for like 20 minutes.

productiveslacker		2003-04-15 03:29:05 PM

I had to go to traffic court early in the morning a few years ago.

The first guy argued about all the previous speeding and traffic violations he had gotten away with, and was stuck with some minor ticket. Judge not amused.

The second guy, a teenage punk, argues about a altercation with the cop, including "his reving the engine was a engine malfunction" and "his muffer was broken" blah blah, kid was an ass. Judge not amused and threatened contempt of court.

I am sitting there thinking that I feel sorry for the next guy after these two asswipes have ticked off the judge. Guess who was next.

adam_cole		2003-04-15 03:34:26 PM

Maybe it's a self esteem issue. He doesn't feel so slick now that he was caught committing these four robberies so to help boast his self image he felt the need to brag about his other robberies that they were unaware of. That way he (maybe in his eyes) still seems smarter than the legal system that caught him. Who knows?

Diogenes		2003-04-15 03:37:07 PM

Someone get this guy a copy of Crime and Punishment, stat!

kpar90		2003-04-15 03:48:54 PM

Actually, if you cop to other offenses, the sentence includes those too, and you can never be tried for them. Of course, that is something to negotiate for, not to do on your own at the last minute...

CreepyNeighborGuy		2003-04-15 04:08:55 PM

I'm not sure. He might be better off to volunteer his other robberies now rather than get prosecuted later for them, depending on how likely it is for the cops to figure out that he did others.

Chances are, once you get nailed for one bank, the investigators for the other robberies are gonna see if you might have done theirs.

He would have been really farked then. As each one came to light, he would have gotten another trial with, probably, a worse sentence. At least this way, he'll get the same sentence for each crime, and not have to worry about getting away with those crimes as he approaches parole.

Of course, chances are he will never live to see parole. If he does, his admitting this will probably help him.

ninjafish		2003-04-15 04:34:50 PM

In the UK if you give info on other crimes you have committed it helps clear up the cases. So we say the confessions are taken 'into consideration'.
It can mean less time locked up.

Kinda like a plea bargain.

MilkBone		2003-04-15 04:51:51 PM

...and the Truth shall set ye free.

/Not

ZAZ		2003-04-15 05:30:36 PM

Use of confessions related to plea bargains is limited. I don't know if they can use these confessions to prosecute him for the other crimes.

But under US federal law the judge can punish the defendant for other crimes he may have committed, even if he has never been charged and even if he has been acquitted of those other crimes. There is no right to a trial by jury as long as the judge says it is a "sentencing factor" rather than a "crime". And double jeopardy doesn't apply to "sentencing factors", so the defendant can later be tried for those 23 robberies even if the judge has already considered them in the present case.

We were headed for a system where the jury could convict of jaywalking and the judge could sentence the defendant to life in prison because he was suspected of murder. The Supreme Court slowed down the trend in the Apprendi case a few years back. But the right to trial by jury is still badly eroded.

Yoshi		2003-04-15 05:38:36 PM

Well one thing to think about is the world record is only in the 20's for number of banks robbed by one person. So I am guessing that he might be trying to go down in history as having the most.

Hybrid		2003-04-15 05:40:58 PM

*cough*PSA TAG*endcough*

batcar01		2003-04-15 06:19:26 PM

"The Truth Shall Set You Free!!!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............NOT THIS TIME.

Freschel		2003-04-15 06:26:30 PM

Well if he didn't confess, sooner or later those robberies will catch up to him. Confessing to those would prolly be a great idea. Then again I know nothing.