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2003-04-15 03:41:05 PM
Bill O'Reilly and all his blubbering minions of revenge-obsessed, malcontented, middle-class, middle-aged, white male impotents should be put in a rocket and shot into the sun.

I got your donkey right here.
 
2003-04-15 03:41:18 PM
Nagasaki
I agree, closing tags is so overrated.
 
2003-04-15 03:41:24 PM
Vroomazoom -
Dro:

can i assume you will not respond to anything that I said?

I have been responding to the intelligent post.
 
2003-04-15 03:41:43 PM
There will ALWAYS be useless questions and followup answers.
 
2003-04-15 03:41:44 PM
i was requesting a direct link between the enlightenment and africa. a language with a completely diffent base, and the piramids, wich offer no similarity to european arcitecture does not show a direct link, or causal effect. piramids were around in south america, and I guarantee they had no effect on european arcitecture during the enlightenment.

Vroomazoom I am sorry but there is no answer that will satisfy you friend. obviously you already have made up that lead lined mind of yours and are not willing to consider any other arguments. I ask you to provide some proof of your own stance: "Africa as a void of cultural significance". By demanding iron clad arguments and proof of me while offering none of your own you are attempting to badger your way through an argument without actually arguing your point.

Whatever, enjoy your day. I fell no need to continue this argument. I might as well be trying to teach my cat Calculus.
 
2003-04-15 03:42:24 PM
Nagasaki
Oops!

/b
 
2003-04-15 03:43:56 PM
Wyczar

I won't argue that there weren't Africans who helped facilitate the slave trade, but all the countries you mentioned are outside of the scope of the argument, or you can include Europe & certain tribes. I think in this case it's most relevant to keep the scope @ America as it was the largest practictioner & the largest beneficiary.

Reperations might have some logistical problems, but conceptually I think it might be fair. Much of the wealth of America was built off the back of slave labor. Reperations is relevant today b/c that wealth has been passed down from generation to generation so that decendants now enjoy the wealth (plus interest) on that labor.

I wasn't trying to equate slavery as practiced in Africa with slavery as practiced in the Americas, even though indentured servitude could be equated by your definition. I'm assuming you're referring to the "lets not forget the West African slave traders" portion of my last post. I was referring to the selling of African slaves by Africans.Too often in the debates about reparations the US is held solely responsible and the resposibility of others is glossed over or ignored. Yes, I know, two wrongs don't make a right, but let's explore all the facts and not ignore anything that's inconvienant.

What I was obviously not getting across is the fact that I think the whole idea of reparations is so much crap.
 
2003-04-15 03:43:57 PM
Axisted
what's the point of having the government artificially inflate "minorities" as a group at the expense of the individual

In theory the idea would be to create an "even" playing ground where previous perceived inadequacies are no longer in effect.

it is another to cure that by lowering the standards of their success

Unfortunately it is difficult to draw a line between a "hand up" and a "hand out". Plus those are very very patronizing terms. "Here's your 'hand up'!"

Affirmative action is like the war on drugs, in the end it causes more problems than it was intended to cure.

You may be correct here. I'd be against affirmative action (for employment purposes - I do genuinely like the idea of a diverse student body) if there were any other plan to rememdy previous injustices. For example, if state (and federal) government were to begin seriously investing in underperforming public schools - i.e. spending money to hire the best teachers, we could potentially get out of this quagmire much faster than AA will ever get us out.
 
2003-04-15 03:45:12 PM
Kpar90 -

"I have more bling bling than your whole family. I won't go so far as to say I could buy and sell you, since slavery is one of the topics in this thread..."


I'm sorry sir, I don't use 'bling, bling' as a barometer of wealth. Did your daughter leave the t.v. on BET again? You'd better slow her down before she starts dressing like us. Again, grow up.
 
2003-04-15 03:45:31 PM
Nagasaki

I understand that useless questions and follow up answers are the driving force behind these threads, however closing tags do help reduce the most useless questions and subsequently the follow-up answers.


<----look no closing tag!!
 
2003-04-15 03:45:57 PM
*things in asterics are actions*
/things behind "close tag" indicate tone of post, or impressions of others

*punches Nagasaki in face*

Yes, we should also stop with the cliche of using those funny little tear drop thingys. You know what I'm talking about the "".
/sarcasm
 
2003-04-15 03:46:51 PM
Weemill, I used it, only after DRO used it. Am I to assume that using a derogatory term is okay if you are of the same race? Is that how it works?

Why don't you step off your little box, tuck your feathers back into your self righteous shirt and look at the statement instead of reacting to the word that sent you into such a "don't use that word around me" jerkfest. You didn't have a problem when DRO used it to describe another human being did you? Where was all the feigned shame and concern then?

get off my dick simpleton
 
2003-04-15 03:48:26 PM
Who's racist? The article says the show "raised $800,000 for the 15-year-old charity benefiting inner-city schoolchildren." No mention of race anywhere in the article. People assume poor kids who need the help of benevolent rich folk are black. That's pretty racist.

And when did "non-pc" replace the simpler phrase "putting your foot in your mouth"? It implied a slip of the tounge that revealed the speaker's better-off-kept-to-himself, inner voice. But now, anytime someone gets called out for being a prick, this cadre of voices whine about how pc everything has become and what a boring, sanitized-for-your-feelings world we live in.

Political correctness, is NOT the same as social awareness. You don't talk about your toenail fungus at a dinner party, your asshole boss at a company picnic, or poor kids stealilng from your priveleged ass at a benefit for inner city youth. What's wrong with that?

It's smart, proper, and classy to know when and where to open your stupid mouth, and when to stuff more pie into it.
 
2003-04-15 03:49:26 PM
Underwhelmed -

Vroomazoom I am sorry but there is no answer that will satisfy you friend. obviously you already have made up that lead lined mind of yours and are not willing to consider any other arguments. I ask you to provide some proof of your own stance: "Africa as a void of cultural significance". By demanding iron clad arguments and proof of me while offering none of your own you are attempting to badger your way through an argument without actually arguing your point.

Whatever, enjoy your day. I fell no need to continue this argument. I might as well be trying to teach my cat Calculus.


Finally, the common sense enters the room. Vroomazoom your sheet is getting wet.
 
2003-04-15 03:50:38 PM
Dro: Taking the moral high ground? That's mighty white of you...
 
2003-04-15 03:53:26 PM
Kpar90 -

"Dro: Taking the moral high ground? That's mighty white of you..."


Kpar with another racist comment, that's mighty you of you.
 
2003-04-15 03:53:34 PM
Notice Dro does not think the common sense presence in the room has anything to do with his particular location.
 
2003-04-15 03:53:51 PM
Maui Haui
Nagasaki
I agree, closing tags is so overrated.


AWESOME! Nothing like a good html joke...

/fan of the closing tag
 
2003-04-15 03:54:14 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND - LOL about the BET comment. Leave the man alone, his best friend is black.
 
2003-04-15 03:54:49 PM
Oh, good a discussion of race relations. That's a nice diversion from the usual hippy/warmonger rants.

O'Reilly's comment, if, indeed he made it, was incredibly stupid. Worse Than Prince Philip Stupid.

And given the fact that incredibly stupid comments about race usually get you in much deeper and much hotter water than most other incredibly stupid comments, with much less benefit of the doubt, I'd say O'Reilly is in for a roasting.
 
2003-04-15 03:55:23 PM
I think it's cute when kids like Dro can make friends on Fark.
 
2003-04-15 03:55:41 PM
I had a dog named Bling Bling. It was a /black lab.
 
2003-04-15 03:56:07 PM
BOBERT -

OK BOBERT YOU HAVE MY UNDIVIDED ATTENTION. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SWEETIE? EVERY ONE OF YOUR POST IS DIRECTED AT ME, SO HERE YOU GO. DAMN, YOU DON'T HAVE SHIAT ELSE TO DO? YOU CAN'T RECOGNIZE WHEN YOU'RE BEING IGNORED?
 
2003-04-15 03:56:22 PM
DRO are you threatening me?
 
2003-04-15 03:56:58 PM
Shortbusdriver:

I think it depends on whether or not you still want to.

Underwhelmed:

I was not saying that africa has no culture, i was just simply stating that I did not believe that it was the cause of the age of enlightnement. You can't come up with examples of how one culture didn't effect another one, unless you just list things you dont think were influenced by said culture. I picked a couple in my original post on the topic, phylosophy, music, ect. I wasnt trying to cause any problems with my statment, or say anything bad about any culture. I think you misunderstood me, and you were not following the discussion from the begining, you just jumped in in the middle, which kinda made my side unclear.

DROxINxTHExWIND:

well, I can qoute myself to discuss your tactics.

from myself at 02:40:51 PM

I can only guess that every point in this will be ignored, or you will just look at one point, or one group of words, or you will misquote me again, or say that I am a waste of time.

well, you looked at one point in the arguement I made, Ignored my post, and indicated my arguments were a waste of time. you have already misquoted me, so seems like you completed my checklist

and, before you say that my arguments really are stupid and you only want to deal with intelegent arguements; can you say you believe that Kpar90's arguments are intellegent? I bet if I needed to I could quote you to show the oposite.

you sir, are now a bigot, and a liar.
 
2003-04-15 03:57:24 PM
This sounds like a fun game:

"Does anyone know where the Italian Five are? I hope they're not in the parking lot fixing boxing matches and swapping pizza recipes."

"Does anyone know where the Polish Five are? They probably went to the wrong place and are now singing their hit song, "My hot Polish sausage" to an audience of old ladies in a Bingo hall."

"Does anyone know where the Indian Five are? I hope they're not in the parking lot sniffing our gasoline."

"Does anyone know where the Catholic Five are? I hope they're not in the parking lot touching our children."

"Does anyone know where the Mexican Five are? I hope they're not in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps." (see, this one works for others too)

"Does anyone know where the Irish Five are? They'll probably show up later, drunk and looking for a fight."

"Does anyone know where the Kosher Five are? I hope they're not in the parking picking up lost pennies."

"Does anyone know where the Scottish Five are? Because I keep hearing "Bahhh, Oh My God", "Bahhh, Oh My God" coming from the parking lot area."

"Does anyone know where the French Five are? Did they already surrender?"

"Does anyone know where the German Five are? I hope they didn't invade any small neighborhoods on the way here."

"Does anyone know where the German Five are? I hope not because German music really sucks."

"Does anyone know where the Korean Five are? I hope everybody left their dogs at home."

and finally my fave!

"Does anyone know where the Arab Five are? I hope they're not going to arrive in an airplane through the wall."
 
2003-04-15 03:57:24 PM
I present previous evidence of bad taste and racial slurs: The O'Reilly Wetback incident.
 
2003-04-15 03:57:45 PM
Axisted
I doubt you're as good as miss cleo at deciding an outcome. I'd leave that for time to decide, and so far more blacks have been able to enter the professional workforce, and get a pretty good education

ToeKnee666
Its that inner voice being let out that shows the racist tendancies that people have. The context of the article simply shows that this was for minority youth. And even if it wasn't it was still some highbrow twit demeaning along class lines instead of racial AND class lines.

fink
Translation: All of you coons should shut-up and dance like that good ni&&er Colin Powell.
If you're too stupid to realize that he was using the term as a derogatory means to get a point across, I feel sorry for you. Apparently you've never learned anything from an English class or from casual conversation, you dimwitted penile-wart. The way you used had a sarcastic tone and with the intent to cause harm. So bugger off, jackhole.
 
2003-04-15 03:58:14 PM
HilarityEnsues
I had a dog named Bling Bling. It was a /black lab.

My grandfather had a black dog that he named with the n-bomb. At least we can be thankful that doesn't happen anymore...
 
2003-04-15 04:00:43 PM
Restricted: That was a lot of work for such a retarded post.

Do Indians sniff gasoline?

/equal opportunity insulter
 
2003-04-15 04:00:51 PM
Well Dro, you might be ignoring me (obviously not), but you are still reading my posts.

temper, temper.
 
2003-04-15 04:00:54 PM
Hmph...I must be slow or something but I thought his lil quip was about best men and weddings not inner city kids. As much as he may have a multitude of assinine comments to make I just can't see him being that stupid at an event like that.
 
2003-04-15 04:01:24 PM
The closing tag is a useful invention.

/IMO
 
2003-04-15 04:02:02 PM
Vroomazoom -

"can you say you believe that Kpar90's arguments are intellegent?"

You have a point there.

"I think you misunderstood me, and you were not following the discussion from the begining, you just jumped in in the middle, which kinda made my side unclear."


SOUNDS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU DID TO ME AND Kpar90. Such hypocrits.
 
2003-04-15 04:02:11 PM
people with political agenda should not make racially motivated jokes.
 
2003-04-15 04:04:10 PM
Hey loser, I got a message for you in my profile.
 
2003-04-15 04:05:02 PM
And oddly, enough, this is the 500,000th post in the 500,000th link.

I rule.
 
2003-04-15 04:05:04 PM
Vroom: Hey man, why you picking on me? Aren't we buds? Or at least both white?
 
2003-04-15 04:06:26 PM
Bobert -

"Well Dro, you might be ignoring me (obviously not), but you are still reading my posts.

temper, temper."


I didn't use CAPS because I'm angry. I was trying to draw attention to your feminine ways. Is that all you had to say to me boo? ou've been trying to get some attention since I started posting. that's it?
 
2003-04-15 04:06:39 PM
Kpar90


We are still friends.
 
2003-04-15 04:08:42 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:

I remember my post that was first (damn filters), directed towards you. I stated that I thought you saying Kpar90 was a racist was incorrect. I stated that I had seen him on fark for quite some time, and most of his arguments were intellegent. I also noted that he was on my favorite farkers list because I liked his personal style on fark. It had to do with my perseption of Kpar90 at that time. I made it clear that I was not commenting on the whole discussion mearly on what I viewed as being an incorrect statement on your part based on what I did know.
 
2003-04-15 04:08:47 PM
Weemill, If you're too stupid to realize that I was using the term as a derogatory means to get a point across, I feel sorry for you. Apparently you've never learned anything from an English class or from casual conversation, you dimwitted Uber Italian. The way I used it had a confrontational tone, with the intent to show hypocrisy. So bugger off, jackhole.

You make this too easy, care to try again Captain Righteous?

WHEN IS IT OKAY TO CALL ANOTHER PERSON A DEROGATORY TERM ? answer this question please.
 
2003-04-15 04:09:42 PM
MrSockpuppet
I'd almost be in agreement with you, except they're trying to bring in more minority voters, esp. black. That'll probably prove to be a failure, especially after Bush's statement about the U of Michigan case, and something else, that I'm not quite remembering ATM.
 
2003-04-15 04:10:43 PM
Vroomazoom -
"can you say you believe that Kpar90's arguments are intellegent?"


Kpar90 -
Vroom: Hey man, why you picking on me? Aren't we buds? Or at least both white?


You both have the same ridiculous logic and you still can't agree. Maybe it's time for you to open a book and formulate some opinions based on fact instead of your sheltered lilly-White existence.
 
2003-04-15 04:11:26 PM
Kpar90:

no sir, not picking on you. I like your arguments, always have. I just dont like that bigot saying he is ignoring me because I am unintellegent, and thats what he does, and saying he is, arguing with you to show you are unintellegent, because thats what he does. should have made that more clear. sorry.
 
2003-04-15 04:11:42 PM
DRO,

How does you using CAPS draw attention to my "feminie" ways.


/willing to bet dro will not directly address this question, boo
 
2003-04-15 04:12:03 PM
500,000th link, 50 billion kittens killed! WTG Drewfus!
 
2003-04-15 04:14:56 PM
Well, usually I'd say never, but in your case, i'd make an exception, fink, since you started this flamewar between you and I. I'm retaliating. I haven't heard you say one thing that made sense, although i do remember you sucking Bill O'Reilly's dick a few posts ago, then complaining that lewinsky got a job for her dick sucking abilities.... Keep sucking dicks, and you'll get one too, kid-o, unless, that is, you think a black person'll get it first, dumbass.
 
2003-04-15 04:15:00 PM
Vroomazoom says -

DROxINxTHExWIND:

"I remember my post that was first (damn filters), directed towards you. I stated that I thought you saying Kpar90 was a racist was incorrect. I stated that I had seen him on fark for quite some time, and most of his arguments were intellegent. I also noted that he was on my favorite farkers list because I liked his personal style on fark. It had to do with my perseption of Kpar90 at that time. I made it clear that I was not commenting on the whole discussion mearly on what I viewed as being an incorrect statement on your part based on what I did know."


What a bunch of bullshiat. You've entire argument against me is BASED on the supposition that I pull the race card for no reason. You began making that accusation after jumping in on a thread THAT WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL THREAD.
 
2003-04-15 04:16:22 PM
OOOOOOOH...

two reasons to celebrate!
 
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