dottedmint: "This poll by CNN (Link) shows an even split on the morality of gay marriage. So what should we do now? What if a majority eventually agree with it? Will you think it's OK to enact it then?"I question how much support gay marriage has because I don't know of any state that has actually passed it with a popular vote. It has always been a judge making a ruling. As said before in my state a ban on gay marriage passed by a large margin. IF the people of my state did not care if gays married the ban would not have passed.And for the record, if my state had passed gay marriage with a popular vote I would have been fine with it. I object to a judge deciding what we (as society) must allow."Why is telling a black guy he can't marry a white woman discrimination, but telling a gay guy he can't marry another gay guy not discrimination?"Because if a white man can marry a white woman you would be discriminating against a black man if you did not allow him to marry the same woman.A straight man is allowed to marry a woman.A gay man is ALSO allowed to marry a woman.Both a gay or straight man is allowed to marry a woman and so there is no discrimination there.In order to be discriminated against you need to not be allowed to do something that someone else is allowed to do.I know the argument is that the gay man is not allowed to marry who he wants but that is not the point.Both men could marry the same woman. (not at the same time. lol)You tell me where he is discriminated against.
dottedmint: In order to be discriminated against you need to not be allowed to do something that someone else is allowed to do.
dottedmint: I see Herb thinks that way.
dottedmint: Do you support their right to marry or not?
dottedmint: They simply say (basically) that a man can marry a woman.
dottedmint: So Herb, you do? support a brother and sisters right to get married?And how about a father and his adult daughter?
dottedmint: I'm not looking for your permission for anything. Earlier in this conversation you said," Its nobody's business - and that includes yours and "society's" and the government's - to decide which consenting adults can be married and which ones can't,"I'm just trying to figure out if you actually meant what you said or if you think in certain cases it is OK for society to tell certain adults that they cannot get married.
dottedmint: I don't care what concenting adults do to/with each other. I never have and I never will.Then STFU.
Cleveland-Steamer: majority rule was what got us into trouble in the first place.
Saiga410: How about the drooling seething hatred for the new AZ immigration bill is similar to the drooling seething hatred generated by the teaparty movement towards HC reform?
dottedmint: I would love to see someone in here explain why the AZ immigration law is so bad. I think a lot of the complaints are based on (for lack of a better word) lies.
Cleveland-Steamer: This will cost AZ way more than it could ever possibly save thanks to the inevitable lawsuits that will now flow in from all directions.
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