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(Starpulse)   MacGyver creator is trying to stop MacGruber film. If only there was a man he could call that could fix this problem with little more than a paper clip and an elastic band   (starpulse.com) divider line 74
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2010-02-03 01:58:43 PM
MacGyver creator is trying to stop MacGruber film. If only there was a man he could call that could fix this problem with little more than a paper clip and an elastic band

No mention of duct tape = submitter FAIL
 
2010-02-03 02:31:42 PM
HulkHands:

No mention of duct tape = submitter FAIL

Red Green?
 
2010-02-03 03:30:21 PM
HulkHands: MacGyver creator is trying to stop MacGruber film. If only there was a man he could call that could fix this problem with little more than a paper clip and an elastic band

No mention of duct tape = submitter FAIL


You really think MacGyver would need a rocket launcher?
 
2010-02-03 03:51:43 PM
They're going to make a movie out of the totally unwatchable SNL skit? Really.

I mean, I know it's not nearly the first time...but why? Do people actually go and watch this shiat?
 
2010-02-03 03:55:02 PM
bayschool.us...stand in support of the lawsuit.
 
2010-02-03 03:57:35 PM
Demetrius: They're going to make a movie out of the totally unwatchable SNL skit? Really.

I mean, I know it's not nearly the first time...but why? Do people actually go and watch this shiat?


that was my thought exactly until i saw the trailer. this may be the first successful porting of a snl character/skit to the silver screen since wayne's world and the blues brothers.
 
2010-02-03 04:09:40 PM
MacGruber!
Making life-saving inventions out of household materials!
MacGruber!
He has a drink or two each night, but it doesn't affect his job!
MacGruber!
The guy's a social drinker!
 
2010-02-03 04:47:11 PM
Guys's shiat outta luck. Thinks his rights are being infringed because "I retained the movie rights to the character".

This couldn't possibly be a clearer case of parody. Parody's protected.

Still your ball, but it's now 4th and 35.
 
2010-02-03 04:48:02 PM
So, a parody of a show that's been off the air for two decades? Seriously? This is the best they've got?
 
2010-02-03 04:57:23 PM
madmann: Guys's shiat outta luck. Thinks his rights are being infringed because "I retained the movie rights to the character".

This couldn't possibly be a clearer case of parody. Parody's protected.

Still your ball, but it's now 4th and 35.


Thissy McThis
 
2010-02-03 05:12:28 PM
toddalmighty: madmann: Guys's shiat outta luck. Thinks his rights are being infringed because "I retained the movie rights to the character".

This couldn't possibly be a clearer case of parody. Parody's protected.

Still your ball, but it's now 4th and 35.

Thissy McThis


I guess that only means that Richard Dean Anderson won't be able to do a cameo spot (it's established in the skits that MacGruber is MacGyver's son).
 
2010-02-03 05:21:00 PM
aden_nak: So, a parody of a show that's been off the air for two decades? Seriously? This is the best they've got?

Come on. Give Will Forte a break.

They test screened a movie about Tim Calhoun, but the audience shot themselves in the face a quarter of the way in.
 
2010-02-03 05:31:25 PM
"...the parody breaches copyright laws"

Really? You straight up say "parody" and don't understand how you're wrong?

I had doubts about the movie idea too, but the trailer looks decent.
 
2010-02-03 06:34:35 PM
The "What the fark is this?" line actually made me bust out for some reason.
 
2010-02-03 06:37:19 PM
Good taste should have have stopped it.
 
2010-02-03 06:38:59 PM
It makes for a mildly funny 2 minute sketch. As a 90 minute movie, it will be excruciating.

And you'd think that Richard Dean Anderson would be welcoming something like this. It certainly won't hurt his ailing career - it might even help a bit.
 
2010-02-03 06:39:53 PM
BKITU: I guess that only means that Richard Dean Anderson won't be able to do a cameo spot (it's established in the skits that MacGruber is MacGyver's son).

Mobkey: Really? You straight up say "parody" and don't understand how you're wrong?

I'm no Fark Internet Lawyer, but I wonder if the bolded part could be the basis for the case? Since it builds off the original character and so actually claims ties to the original work?
 
2010-02-03 06:43:10 PM
Atomic Spunk: It makes for a mildly funny 2 minute sketch. As a 90 minute movie, it will be excruciating.

And you'd think that Richard Dean Anderson would be welcoming something like this. It certainly won't hurt his ailing career - it might even help a bit.


Ailing career? You mean the Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe/Ark Of Truth/Continuum involvement that has occupied him for the past 12+ years (for which he served as producer for the vast majority of it)? Hard to call any of that "ailing".
 
2010-02-03 06:44:55 PM
Sounds like someone's desperate for an Associate Producer credit.
 
2010-02-03 06:49:27 PM
Is there a threshold where a work would be judged to be so excessively derivative that parody fails to be a defense of copyright infringement? For example, Seth MacFarlane says he can't do full-length Family Guy Star Trek episodes the way he has done Star Wars unless he gets CBS/Paramount's permission (although that may have more to do with trademarks than copyright).
 
2010-02-03 06:54:20 PM
Demetrius: They're going to make a movie out of the totally unwatchable SNL skit? Really.

I mean, I know it's not nearly the first time...but why? Do people actually go and watch this shiat?


nope, nobody watches it. not a single soul is going to go see the movie, and this was known before it was even penned. nobody watches SNL either, as it gets a 0 in the ratings and accordingly the movie will make $0 in the box office.
 
2010-02-03 07:00:50 PM
neilbradley:
Ailing career? You mean the Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe/Ark Of Truth/Continuum involvement that has occupied him for the past 12+ years (for which he served as producer for the vast majority of it)? Hard to call any of that "ailing".


I had no idea he was still working so that was definitely a misstatement on my part. For some reason, I pictured him sitting on a sofa at home with greasy hair, holding a beer in one hand and grabbing for Doritos with the other.
 
2010-02-03 07:06:05 PM
Atomic Spunk: neilbradley:
Ailing career? You mean the Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe/Ark Of Truth/Continuum involvement that has occupied him for the past 12+ years (for which he served as producer for the vast majority of it)? Hard to call any of that "ailing".

I had no idea he was still working so that was definitely a misstatement on my part. For some reason, I pictured him sitting on a sofa at home with greasy hair, holding a beer in one hand and grabbing for Doritos with the other.


Hey if it works for you, why not for him eh?
 
2010-02-03 07:10:30 PM
tvscreener.com
 
2010-02-03 07:21:54 PM
Everybody should be trying to stop it.

After "A Night At the Roxbury," "The Ladies' Man," and "Superstar," among others, nobody should be funding any film based on SNL sketches, ever.
 
2010-02-03 07:25:23 PM
joeyromeo: Everybody should be trying to stop it.

After "A Night At the Roxbury," "The Ladies' Man," and "Superstar," among others, nobody should be funding any film based on SNL sketches, ever.


Hey, I liked Ladies Man. But yeah, their track record sucks donkey schlong. You also forgot the "It's Pat" movie.
 
2010-02-03 07:28:05 PM
Crap, forgot to mentionm "Coneheads",and "Stuart Saves his Family".
 
2010-02-03 07:33:41 PM
And you just know Lorne Michaels will come back with "Well, 'Wayne's World' was good."

Yes, "Wayne's World" was good. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
2010-02-03 07:37:44 PM
ju66l3r: aden_nak: So, a parody of a show that's been off the air for two decades? Seriously? This is the best they've got?

Come on. Give Will Forte a break.

They test screened a movie about Tim Calhoun, but the audience shot themselves in the face a quarter of the way in.


They lasted that long did they? That audience might have been the most battle hardened focus group ever.
 
2010-02-03 07:42:30 PM
joeyromeo: And you just know Lorne Michaels will come back with "Well, 'Wayne's World' was good."

Yes, "Wayne's World" was good. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.


Well, another usable SNL skit movie spinoffs would be the "What's Up With That" skit or that Target lady skit.
 
2010-02-03 07:42:34 PM
rickycal78: joeyromeo: Everybody should be trying to stop it.

After "A Night At the Roxbury," "The Ladies' Man," and "Superstar," among others, nobody should be funding any film based on SNL sketches, ever.

Hey, I liked Ladies Man. But yeah, their track record sucks donkey schlong. You also forgot the "It's Pat" movie.


Does not the wind love the dirt?
 
2010-02-03 07:43:33 PM
The whole "MacGyver makes a nuclear weapon out of a hairpin and pencil" is the most tired joke ever. They even made the joke on the actual show.
 
2010-02-03 08:04:18 PM
Atomic Spunk: neilbradley:
Ailing career? You mean the Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe/Ark Of Truth/Continuum involvement that has occupied him for the past 12+ years (for which he served as producer for the vast majority of it)? Hard to call any of that "ailing".

I had no idea he was still working so that was definitely a misstatement on my part. For some reason, I pictured him sitting on a sofa at home with greasy hair, holding a beer in one hand and grabbing for Doritos with the other.


Oh, he's probably doing exactly that judging by how big he's gotten recently - kinda big in Continuum, and is wearing a LOT of clothing in his cameos of SGU.
 
2010-02-03 08:09:31 PM
God I love Tim Calhoun and his China baby.
 
2010-02-03 08:11:16 PM
Atomic Spunk: I had no idea he was still working so that was definitely a misstatement on my part. For some reason, I pictured him sitting on a sofa at home with greasy hair, holding a beer in one hand and grabbing for Doritos with the other.

He owns a part of every one of the SG franchises, including the ones he isn't in. The man isn't working because he doesn't want to work. Also:

neilbradley: Oh, he's probably doing exactly that judging by how big he's gotten recently - kinda big in Continuum, and is wearing a LOT of clothing in his cameos of SGU.

Yeah, he porked up. He has fark you money coming for the rest of his life, so it appears he's let himself go. I can't say I blame him, he could still get tons of tail if he wanted.

backseatcuddler.com
 
2010-02-03 08:28:56 PM
MacGyver creator is Anyone with good taste or has seen an SNL movie before should be trying to stop MacGruber film.

FTFY
 
2010-02-03 08:32:35 PM
joeyromeo: Everybody should be trying to stop it.

After "A Night At the Roxbury," "The Ladies' Man," and "Superstar," among others, nobody should be funding any film based on SNL sketches, ever.


I agree, those sucked. But Wayne's World, it's sequel, Blues Brothers... Ok, that might be it, but those were pretty good. And "Stewart Saves His Family" wasn't terrible.
 
2010-02-03 08:50:21 PM
Caeldan: BKITU: I guess that only means that Richard Dean Anderson won't be able to do a cameo spot (it's established in the skits that MacGruber is MacGyver's son).

Mobkey: Really? You straight up say "parody" and don't understand how you're wrong?

I'm no Fark Internet Lawyer, but I wonder if the bolded part could be the basis for the case? Since it builds off the original character and so actually claims ties to the original work?


It may be the basis for the case, but it doesn't change the work as a parody. Parodists are allowed to copy "only enough" work so as to invoke a connection to the original work. Although this begs the question "How much copying is 'only enough'?", courts will usually defer to the parodist unless the strength of parody is weak and the odds of consumer confusion are high.

Given that much of the audience who'll likely go see the movie have has probably never seen the show MacGyver, I think it's pretty safe to say that referencing the MacGruber has MacGuyver's son was necessary to ensure the success the parody. It's SNL's way of saying "This is a parody of MacGyver."
 
2010-02-03 08:52:32 PM
I'm just hear to say that Richard Dean Anderson rules. First person with three names not to go evil so he gets bonus points.
 
2010-02-03 08:53:11 PM
Oops...
referencing the MacGruber has MacGuyver's son

referencing the MacGruber character as MacGuyver's son

FTFM
 
2010-02-03 09:06:17 PM
I thought the trailer was funny.
And I had no idea it was an SNL skit.
 
2010-02-03 09:10:16 PM
lobootomy:
Yeah, he porked up. He has fark you money coming for the rest of his life, so it appears he's let himself go. I can't say I blame him, he could still get tons of tail if he wanted.


Actually he had surgery a while back (for flat feet possibly?) and wasn't able to exercise like he normally would. More recent pictures of him show he's losing that weight pretty well, but his face is still pretty chubby.
 
2010-02-03 09:18:22 PM
Nem Wan: Is there a threshold where a work would be judged to be so excessively derivative that parody fails to be a defense of copyright infringement? For example, Seth MacFarlane says he can't do full-length Family Guy Star Trek episodes the way he has done Star Wars unless he gets CBS/Paramount's permission (although that may have more to do with trademarks than copyright).

Probably the name of the characters, the ship's name, the name "Federation", and maybe even the way the term "Warp Factor" is used (prolly a stretch on that last one). All of those is what makes people relate to Star Trek. Making a parody of one single character might be okay, but the use of all of the characters to establish the parody is borrowing too much from the original, especially if you're doing it within that same world. Peter microwaving a Tribble, no problem. Peter microwaving a Tribble on the bridge of the Enterprise, there's an issue.

Just a guess, mind you.

Galaxy Quest parodied everything without using a single name or design matchup. That's the idea. As a Family Guy spoof, that wouldn't work.
 
2010-02-03 09:19:51 PM
Obviously the creator just wants a payout.

The McGruber sketch with Charles Barkley ("Darrell") was hilarious.
 
2010-02-03 09:23:04 PM
As a skit it was a one-note, one-joke effort that's about as funny as your college roommate's MacGyver impersonation. It wasn't even funny in the second SNL skit, let alone all the subsequent ones. If they'd made the skit 20 years ago when MacGyver was current it might have been slightly funnier, but it's hard to redeem something that is essentially one joke.

And now, 3 years after the one-joke skit and nearly 20 years after the show it inspired ended, they want to stretch one mediocre joke into a movie? Good luck with that.
 
2010-02-03 09:40:50 PM
SVenus: Galaxy Quest parodied everything without using a single name or design matchup.

Maybe no names but designs? Come on. I liked the movie, don't get me wrong but they definitely used designs from Star Trek to tell their story. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2010-02-03 09:53:25 PM
3825968: God I love Tim Calhoun and his China baby.

What America needs is another big lake.
 
2010-02-03 10:33:52 PM
Well, another usable SNL skit movie spinoffs would be the "What's Up With That" skit or that Target lady skit.

I like "What Up With That". It is groovy.
 
2010-02-03 10:46:08 PM
 
2010-02-03 10:53:14 PM
rickycal78: Crap, forgot to mentionm "Coneheads",and "Stuart Saves his Family".

Hey, Coneheads was good. No, it was awesome.

/MacGRUUUUUUUUBER!
 
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