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(The Age (Melbourne))   Atheist convention miraculously sells out six weeks in advance   (theage.com.au) divider line 724
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2010-02-02 07:32:43 PM
Has to be the first time 'grass roots' will be accurately applied to describe an organization.
 
2010-02-02 07:34:56 PM
Praise the Lord!!

Wait....
 
2010-02-02 07:37:00 PM
Richard Dawkins is God.
 
2010-02-02 08:12:31 PM
I hear the speaker line up is divine.
 
2010-02-02 08:29:31 PM
i dont believe it
 
2010-02-02 08:32:44 PM
''We think this is a turning point for secularism in Australia, and it will be looked at by the rest of the world,'' Mr Nicholls said. ''We will see it happening more through the free planet, and our aim is to make the whole planet free.''

Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader. Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

Now if it were an agnostics convention, I might buy that. Atheists and religious types both just need to stfu and quit trying to feel important. Nobody cares.
 
2010-02-02 09:03:17 PM
I'm glad they sold it out. I was planning on attending purely out of curiosity, but at $200 a ticket, not a chance.
 
2010-02-02 09:05:50 PM
MonkeyVegetables: i dont believe it

/snicker/
 
2010-02-02 09:12:11 PM
So they're not waiting for God?....Doh!

/obscure?
//a stretch?
 
2010-02-02 09:28:42 PM
nekom: 'We think this is a turning point for secularism in Australia, and it will be looked at by the rest of the world,' Mr Nicholls said. 'We will see it happening more through the free planet, and our aim is to make the whole planet free.'

Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader. Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

Now if it were an agnostics convention, I might buy that. Atheists and religious types both just need to stfu and quit trying to feel important. Nobody cares.


Would you care... For a Klondike Bar?.

/Seriously
//Militant Religious = Militant Atheists
 
2010-02-02 09:29:06 PM
Any other non-stamp collectors want to get together and party?

Please?

/so so lonely
 
2010-02-02 09:29:29 PM
Is this almost as silly as Atheist Summer Camps?
 
2010-02-02 09:31:08 PM
See what happens when you just have faith?
 
2010-02-02 09:31:32 PM
Let us gather and praise...?
 
2010-02-02 09:31:40 PM
nekom
Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader. Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

You would have a point, except that religion is stupid and atheism is not.
 
2010-02-02 09:31:58 PM
No snark from me.

Enjoy the convention, and tell Dawkins that his wife kicks major ass!

/not only I'm a theist, I'm a Whovian!
 
2010-02-02 09:32:03 PM
CygnusDarius: //Militant Religious = Militant Atheists

This. If you're Fundy Theist and keep the Fundy but lose the Theism, you're still a Fundy. FUNDY
 
2010-02-02 09:32:16 PM
a convention? seriously? what the hell are they thinking? god dammit

/atheist
 
2010-02-02 09:32:42 PM
nekom: t how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

Now if it were an agnostics convention, I might buy that. Atheists and religious types both just need to stfu and quit trying to feel important. Nobody cares.


I'm pretty sure she meant free to do anything you want and not have relgion force anything on you as most atheists do.
 
2010-02-02 09:32:44 PM
Last years event went really well...

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2010-02-02 09:33:07 PM
I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.
 
2010-02-02 09:33:57 PM
InCaseOfFire: a convention? seriously? what the hell are they thinking? god dammit

/atheist


How else are they going to meet and reproduce to form the army that will defeat the evil Lord Robertson?
 
2010-02-02 09:34:21 PM
What do they need a convention for?
 
2010-02-02 09:35:50 PM
Bhasayate: CygnusDarius: //Militant Religious = Militant Atheists

This. If you're Fundy Theist and keep the Fundy but lose the Theism, you're still a Fundy. FUNDY


I read that as fondue. Which I'd totally support.

/Mmmm
//Fondue cheese
 
2010-02-02 09:36:43 PM
Sold out? And Theists are giving this shiat away for free? No wonder they're so popular. Get your shiat together Atheists. S
 
2010-02-02 09:36:45 PM
"In order not to believe in evolution you must either be ignorant, stupid or insane." - Richard Dawkins

somehow i don't think this will go over well with the creationist crowd.
 
2010-02-02 09:37:04 PM
Angry Magic Sky Man will be angry.
 
2010-02-02 09:38:01 PM
Nightjars: I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.

That's why Werner Heisenberg never threw parties
 
2010-02-02 09:38:05 PM
Nightjars: I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.

You could just be an Academic Skeptic and say things like "It seems like people are going to show up, so I'll plan on it, knowing full well that I don't know that, but that's OK, because beliefs cause anxiety, and since I don't have any belief about it one way or the other, I'm totally cool with whatever happens."
 
2010-02-02 09:38:22 PM
Nightjars: I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.

But deep down inside don't you wonder if maybe they would?
 
2010-02-02 09:38:36 PM
A busy convention, eh? If only there was a way for like minded individuals to meet on a regular basis at a place dedicated to their belief system.

/Doesn't really care.
//Atheists will find out in the end.
 
2010-02-02 09:39:12 PM
Isitoveryet: "In order not to believe in evolution you must either be ignorant, stupid or insane." - Richard Dawkins

somehow i don't think this will go over well with the creationist crowd.


"The fool says in is heart 'there is no evolution'"

St. Dawkins
 
2010-02-02 09:39:33 PM
Sooo....what?
Are they going to stand around talking about what they don't believe?

Or is it just another excuse to fart into wine glasses and sniff it?
 
2010-02-02 09:39:52 PM
Nightjars
I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.

SATURDAY AGENDA:
8:00 Breakfast, perhaps
9:00 Does God exist? Who knows? Anyone?
10:00 Do we even care whether or not God exists?
11:00 Everyone gives up and goes home because we're a bunch of blubbering wimps who can't take a stand on anything and don't know how to use basic logic or scientific reasoning.
12:00 Lunch
 
2010-02-02 09:40:07 PM
RanDomino: nekom
Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader. Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

You would have a point, except that religion is stupid and atheism is not.


To me you are comparing zero and infinity. Both are important concepts, but neither one truly means anything.
 
2010-02-02 09:40:57 PM
I'm a little confused to who is mad at whom. It says the organizers didn't want to risk putting it in bigger venues, but also that the organizer David Nicholls is mad at the government for not supporting it? Were they expecting the government to foot the bill or something.

/ only scanned the article.
 
2010-02-02 09:41:36 PM
"He said more than 2500 tickets had been sold, about half to Victorians..."


I thought them to be generally prudish people.
 
2010-02-02 09:41:42 PM
friedrice2003: Sooo....what?
Are they going to stand around talking about what they don't believe?

Or is it just another excuse to fart into wine glasses and sniff it?


That's why I posed my question asking what they needed a convention for. I was not trolling. It just seems like a bunch of people patting themselves on their backs for having similar beliefs, kind of like going to church.
 
2010-02-02 09:42:09 PM
D-Liver: Nightjars: I should throw an agnostic convention, but its impossible to know if anybody would show up.

But deep down inside don't you wonder if maybe they would?


Not if you're skeptic. You wouldn't get attached to any outcome, or form beliefs about it one way or the other, thus achieving a state of ataraxia - i.e., unpurterbedness. Absolute equanimity with respect to the truth value of statements.

Of course, you could still go with appearances, and so say "Oh that looks like a duck" and "That quacks like a duck", you just wouldn't form a belief about it's being a duck, or not being duck.
 
2010-02-02 09:42:22 PM
Panty Sniffer: What do they need a convention for?

To protect our rights form the knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping masses?

Just a thought...
 
2010-02-02 09:42:24 PM
Bhasayate: Isitoveryet: "In order not to believe in evolution you must either be ignorant, stupid or insane." - Richard Dawkins

somehow i don't think this will go over well with the creationist crowd.

"The fool says in is heart 'there is no evolution'"

St. Dawkins


it's weird, he walks like a Liberal heathen yet talks like a god fearing conservative.
 
2010-02-02 09:43:39 PM
jingks: I'm a little confused to who is mad at whom.

Confusion results only because you want to KNOW what's going on. Give up, stop trying to figure it out. Only then will you be happy.
 
2010-02-02 09:43:46 PM
nekom: `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

Um, by not threatening the disbelievers with eternal punishment in a lake of fire?
 
2010-02-02 09:43:53 PM
Point02GPA: Let us gather and praise...?

Hypno-toad. Obviously.

RanDomino: nekom
Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader. Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?

You would have a point, except that religion is stupid and atheism is not.


Look, believing everything someone says betrays both the basics of religious discourse and scientific procedures. And sadly, a lot of people that have that claim, and that are Dawkins' groupies, believe everything the "top atheists" believe: If suddenly Dawkins would claim that the universe was created by a gain vomit thrown up by the Benevolent Cosmic Bunny, some people will believe it.

I can only talk with a Catholic POV, so take this with a grain of salt; it betrays religious discourse because it betrays one of Jesus' teachings: Do not believe everything you say. That, and the loud minority that claims to be christian don't really behave in a christian manner.

It also betrays Scientific Procedures because trusting only one source is akin to ignorance, the core principles of science is to question everything, and to test those afforemented "laws" to see if they work, and even then, you never get an answer, only more options to which to test the laws. You seek answers, not look for them, catch my drift?.
 
2010-02-02 09:43:57 PM
Bhasayate: CygnusDarius: //Militant Religious = Militant Atheists

This. If you're Fundy Theist and keep the Fundy but lose the Theism, you're still a Fundy. FUNDY


They may be fundies, but given the choice I'd rather listen to fundy atheists than fundy religious. Fundy atheists just sound like assholes, fundy religious sound like retarded assholes.
 
2010-02-02 09:43:57 PM
Isitoveryet: it's weird, he walks like a Liberal heathen yet talks like a god fearing conservative.

Link (new window)
 
2010-02-02 09:44:38 PM
I don't believe in atheists.
 
2010-02-02 09:44:48 PM
imprimere
To me you are comparing zero and infinity. Both are important concepts, but neither one truly means anything.

Religion says it has all the answers, based on the drug-and-fasting-fueled visions of cavemen. Atheism says that's stupid, stop trying to confuse people.

I mean, religious people seriously think they can get some kind of effect by holding their hands together and saying some words?? What the fark? Oh, oh, maybe if they just believe hard enough, something will happen!
Someone should tell them, you need to point your finger at something to cast Lightning Bolt!
 
2010-02-02 09:45:43 PM
nekom: "Change a few words in there and it sounds like it could have come from the mouth of the most dogmatic of religious fundamentalists, or even some wacky fringe cult leader."

Yes, when you change words around, you can make anything say anything.

nekom: "Make the whole world `Free' you say? Free to adhere to your particular belief that there is no god, but how are you promoting the freedom to subscribe to any particular religion?"

Do you know what secularism is? Did you see that they took care to promote the event as a turning point for secularism in Australia?

nekom: "Now if it were an agnostics convention, I might buy that."

Of course, because you're an agnostic.

nekom: "Atheists and religious types both just need to stfu and quit trying to feel important. Nobody cares."

I do, and I'm someone. Evidently there are an awful lot of someones who care, or the convention hall would have been empty. I can buy that you, personally, don't care. But that's because you're a South Park Agnostic. I.e. you don't actually understand the nuances in either side of any issue, so you take a position halfway between them while deriding both as extremists. You hope to appear moderate and reasonable without having to actually research the matter and form an opinion that doesn't boil down to trendy contrarianism and false equivalence.

People like you do absolutely nothing to improve the human condition. You're out to elevate yourself above all parties in any given argument by shiatting on all of them, without doing anything to conclusively resolve the matter. You're worse than useless, you're actively obstructing progress.
 
2010-02-02 09:46:24 PM
Panty Sniffer: What do they need a convention for?

I'd never go to one, but why do you give a shiat? I haven't seen any atheists trying to stop any tent revivals. Someone should regulate those thieves but I don't think the atheists want the job.
 
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