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(Cleveland Plain Dealer)   Bill Watterson reflects on "Calvin & Hobbes" with local newspaper reporter in his first interview since 1989   (cleveland.com) divider line 630
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2010-02-01 11:09:52 AM
Fano: FrancoFile: Jubeebee: tom servo bit me: As far as current strips go, I always sort of thought of Frazz as being what Calvin would have been like as a twenty-something. Wiser for his experiences, but still spunky and individualist, passing on his knowledge to a new generation of inquisitive troublemakers. Do they even still do Frazz?

Yeah, Frazz is going strong, and is actually decent more days than not.

Cow and Boy is too meta and relies too much on O LOOK AT THIS CRAZY THING IN THE 3RD PANEL HAHAHAHAHA most of the time to be entertaining. When Cow and Boy is on, it's really good, but that happens maybe once every month or so. Just enough to be frustrating when the firebreathing helicopter orca shows up for the 8th day in a row.

Calvin and Hobbes and The Far Side are still the kings of comics though. Far better than Peanuts or For Better or Worse, IMO. The only active comic that is as consistently good in terms of writing (although nowhere near as good in terms of art) is XKCD.

No love for Zits? That strip does a great job of juxtaposing objective reality with the inner perceptions of a kid (albeit a 16-year-old, rather than a 6-year-old)

Zits seems to get teenagers pretty well, at least when I last read it.


I REALLY liked Zits when it first came out, probably because I was in high school. It's still good now and again, but they seem to have gotten away from exploring relationships and friendship and have lately focused on the parents being shocked by and disconnected from reality, and that gets old. I really liked the story arcs when Jeremy and Hector were fixing up the van and when Hector got the succubus girlfriend. The mom being confused about computers again and the dad being old? Not so much.
 
2010-02-01 11:10:56 AM
GhostWing: ms_lara_croft:

//Want Choco-Fruity Sugar Bombs for breakfast

"Interesting. I can hear your heart racing from here."

/so not obscure


That stuff sounds like crack in a box. Me want. :)
 
2010-02-01 11:11:07 AM
I take out my frustrations on Jim Davis:

www.thamike.com
 
2010-02-01 11:12:06 AM
www.tooned.in

That is all.
 
2010-02-01 11:12:10 AM
FightDirector: 2wolves: FightDirector: Fark all the C&H trolls in this thread

The top pic was new to me. Disturbing, but new.

The Prozac one? That's been around a while. There's a rebuttal to it floating around too. Here you go:

The one that's was new to me was PJMurphy's image. Screw that.


Thanks. I favorited you for posting that one a while back.
 
2010-02-01 11:12:23 AM
Gunny Highway: Jubeebee: alvin and Hobbes and The Far Side are still the kings of comics though.



There are 3 IMHO


Any good links to online content? I only know about that because of Watterson's mention of it's influence on him, that's way before my time.
 
2010-02-01 11:12:45 AM
themishkin: I never saw a pic of Bill Watterson before, but I always had a hunch that he looked like Calvin's dad.

He looks more like Calvin's uncle.
 
2010-02-01 11:13:25 AM
FightDirector: Fark all the C&H trolls in this thread

That first one is as bad as the prozac one. And worse than the "Calvin's college girlfriend" one.

The other two are beautiful, but that first one smacks of High Times pothead art. Don't think Watterson would approve.
 
2010-02-01 11:13:27 AM
Cheap laugh...
www.darntoothysam.com

Followed by 'awww...'
bob.bigw.org

/hot, hot, hot
 
2010-02-01 11:14:08 AM
Ugly Baby Judges You: OniNeko: That being said, what's up with a lazy six year old that fails in school having such a huge vocabulary?

Failing in public education systems doesn't necessarily indicate stupidity or lack of knowledge. It's likely that if Calvin had been a real child, he would have been one of the ones that chased after knowledge on their own because things fascinated them, but were bored beyond measure by the structure of classroom 'learning' environments.

/Probably worse now, thanks to NCLB.


Heck ya. I knew plenty of bright but bored kids in school. Some of them got pretty crappy grades, they just weren't into turning in homework.
 
2010-02-01 11:14:27 AM
If you're reading this thread, Mr. Watterson: Thank you!

I was just entering middle school when C&H was first published, perfect timing to be influenced by its philosophies. You'd better believe my young children will be reading it in the near future!
 
2010-02-01 11:14:35 AM
I love C&H, but I disagree with Watterson.

It is very hard to know when someone has exhausted his creative talent. We can all name names of comic-strippers who over-estimate their creative talent and have been coasting on good will and lack of new competition to remain on the comics page for decades. These people generally start out or become convinced by their success that they really are hot stuff. They have high-self esteem and can't see when their creative well has run dry.

But Watterson and, to a lesser extant, Larson strike me as people who started out with low-self esteem and never, despite their success, really gained the belief that they really deserved their success due to their creative genius. You can read it in his interview. It's like he doesn't really understand just how good his work was. I think, therefore, Watterson under-estimates his own talents. I bet he could still turn out hundreds of strips as good or better than the strips he has already created. He just doesn't believe it because of under-estimates his talent.

Of course, I've never met the man and I'm trying to read his mind, so take it for what it's worth.
 
2010-02-01 11:15:18 AM
FightDirector: 2wolv

No, the one involving doobage. And teeth.
 
2010-02-01 11:15:19 AM
rnatalie: Maybe we can have a Calvin pissing photoshop run:

i.imgur.com

/obviously.
 
2010-02-01 11:16:26 AM
Ugly Baby Judges You: OniNeko: That being said, what's up with a lazy six year old that fails in school having such a huge vocabulary?

Failing in public education systems doesn't necessarily indicate stupidity or lack of knowledge. It's likely that if Calvin had been a real child, he would have been one of the ones that chased after knowledge on their own because things fascinated them, but were bored beyond measure by the structure of classroom 'learning' environments.

/Probably worse now, thanks to NCLB.


This is part of the reason I identified so well with Calvin, even if I tend to be far more reserved. In fact, he helped me come out of my shell a bit when I was an extremely shy kid.

He really did have a love for exploring and questioning his reality, which is exactly what helped teach me at an early age that it was okay to inquire and think for one's self. The independent thinking that Watterson instilled in my early self has helped me overcome indoctrination I went through as a kid when I became an adult.

/or at least age of majority
//still a kid.
 
2010-02-01 11:16:50 AM
Ant: eddyatwork: Could someone explain why Calvin and Hobbes is gone while crap like Cathy and Garfield lives on?

I've known people who like Garfield, but who the fark actually enjoys Cathy?


I'm pretty sure the Cathy writing is shooting for the "single women who own several cats" demographic.
 
2010-02-01 11:16:56 AM
Oh, and one for the trolls:
www.kevinwolf.com
 
2010-02-01 11:17:02 AM
destitute college kid: FightDirector: Fark all the C&H trolls in this thread

That first one is as bad as the prozac one. And worse than the "Calvin's college girlfriend" one.


Y'know something weird? I never realized until this moment that they were smoking. I looked at the image and saw C&H rolling around on the ground laughing through the haze of memory. Never even noticed the joint in his hand until you mentioned High Times, and really looked hard at the image trying to figure out what you meant.

I totally apologize - I always saw that as a good image. Mea Cupla.
 
2010-02-01 11:17:05 AM
I Said: themishkin: I never saw a pic of Bill Watterson before, but I always had a hunch that he looked like Calvin's dad.

He looks more like Calvin's uncle.


The dad was modeled more after Watterson's own father, who really loved the outdoors, getting up at 5am, running and camping in freezing weather, and eating plain oatmeal and prunes for breakfast. Stuff Calvin (and Watterson) hated. Physically, however, he modeled the dad a bit after himself.

Susie is modeled after his wife, in personality.
 
2010-02-01 11:17:27 AM
Was this interview in response to Salinger's death? Did Watterson want us to discuss the Holden/Calvin interface? Venn diagram?
 
2010-02-01 11:17:52 AM
FrancoFile:
No love for Zits? That strip does a great job of juxtaposing objective reality with the inner perceptions of a kid (albeit a 16-year-old, rather than a 6-year-old)

I LOLed at yesterday's Sunday strip dressing young Jeremy just enough like Calvin for it to be noticeable:

www.arcamax.com
 
2010-02-01 11:18:27 AM
Fano: Heck ya. I knew plenty of bright but bored kids in school. Some of them got pretty crappy grades, they just weren't into turning in homework.

A friend of mine gave me a C&H strip when I was in high school. It was the one where Calvin is at the Natural History Museum just to see all the dinosaurs he already knew. She said she thought I was probably "that kid" growing up.
 
2010-02-01 11:18:39 AM
This thread makes my day. I was finishing High School when Calvin and Hobbes ended, so a part of my childhood ended right when I headed off into the adult world. I was very sad to see C&H go, but at the same time it's nice that every strip, from the first to the last, was of high quality.

We're also better off for never having learned what the "Noodle Incident" was all about.

Always loved the snowmen strips. The hot-water bottle/suicide still cracks me up.

/get off my lawn!
//unless you want to play Calvinball. Then you can stay.
 
2010-02-01 11:18:54 AM
Jubeebee: Fano: FrancoFile: Jubeebee: tom servo bit me: As far as current strips go, I always sort of thought of Frazz as being what Calvin would have been like as a twenty-something. Wiser for his experiences, but still spunky and individualist, passing on his knowledge to a new generation of inquisitive troublemakers. Do they even still do Frazz?

Yeah, Frazz is going strong, and is actually decent more days than not.

Cow and Boy is too meta and relies too much on O LOOK AT THIS CRAZY THING IN THE 3RD PANEL HAHAHAHAHA most of the time to be entertaining. When Cow and Boy is on, it's really good, but that happens maybe once every month or so. Just enough to be frustrating when the firebreathing helicopter orca shows up for the 8th day in a row.

Calvin and Hobbes and The Far Side are still the kings of comics though. Far better than Peanuts or For Better or Worse, IMO. The only active comic that is as consistently good in terms of writing (although nowhere near as good in terms of art) is XKCD.

No love for Zits? That strip does a great job of juxtaposing objective reality with the inner perceptions of a kid (albeit a 16-year-old, rather than a 6-year-old)

Zits seems to get teenagers pretty well, at least when I last read it.

I REALLY liked Zits when it first came out, probably because I was in high school. It's still good now and again, but they seem to have gotten away from exploring relationships and friendship and have lately focused on the parents being shocked by and disconnected from reality, and that gets old. I really liked the story arcs when Jeremy and Hector were fixing up the van and when Hector got the succubus girlfriend. The mom being confused about computers again and the dad being old? Not so much.


Thanks for confirming my suspicions. :( That's why I qualified with "when I read it." Teenagers are hard to nail consistently.
 
2010-02-01 11:18:56 AM
rnatalie: Maybe we can have a Calvin pissing photoshop run:

If I see Calvin pissing on Calvin pissing on a [brand] logo, I'll vote for it.

Or better yet, Calvin pissing on Calvin bowing before the cross.
 
2010-02-01 11:19:01 AM
Why is a person who simply chooses to ignore the bleatings of reporters deemed reclusive? I'm sure Mr. Watterson goes to the store and the gas station, maybe even church, talks to his neighbors over the fence and has other normal societal interactions in the course of a day. But if he won't do interviews he's reclusive. Com'n.
 
2010-02-01 11:19:49 AM
C'mon, guys - toughing it out without Calvin & Hobbes builds character.



/Best comic ever. And I've read a lot of comics.
 
2010-02-01 11:20:06 AM
Babwa Wawa: eddyatwork: Could someone explain why Calvin and Hobbes is gone while crap like Cathy and Garfield lives on?

Because Watterson quit before it could morph into something tired and bad. He placed the integrity of the strip above his desire for money.


Was Garfield ever good? Even as a kid, I was born in 1977, Garfield wasn't funny. I just always thought Cathy was for chicks.
 
2010-02-01 11:20:28 AM
Did anyone ever see that C&H bit on Robot Chicken, where it showed Calvin as a psychotic killer? To me, that's about a thousand times worse than the ADD strip shown above. I mean, I already hated Seth Green, but that cemented it for me. farking douche.
 
2010-02-01 11:21:17 AM
I understand Watterson's reaction. It's a powerful thing to realize that you have actually created the perfect comic strip. I probably wouldn't have had the balls to chicken out.

/that's gotta make sense to somebody.
 
2010-02-01 11:21:59 AM
Fano: I Said: eddyatwork: Could someone explain why Calvin and Hobbes is gone while crap like Cathy and Garfield lives on?

Let Bill himself explain that to you:

"It's always better to leave the party early," Watterson says. "If I had rolled along with the strip's popularity and repeated myself for another five, 10 or 20 years, the people now 'grieving' for 'Calvin and Hobbes' would be wishing me dead and cursing newspapers for running tedious, ancient strips like mine instead of acquiring fresher, livelier talent. And I'd be agreeing with them.

He's right, but it doesn't make it any easier, it's tough love.

C&H is one of the few things that Fark universally loves.

Considering the membership here, I'm always amazed with this love affair. Maybe the world isn't so bad after all.



Nah.
 
2010-02-01 11:22:35 AM
lolcifer: Did anyone ever see that C&H bit on Robot Chicken, where it showed Calvin as a psychotic killer? To me, that's about a thousand times worse than the ADD strip shown above. I mean, I already hated Seth Green, but that cemented it for me. farking douche.

I rather thought he nailed the situation up through where Calvin is put on medication. The whole thing is an indictment on the over-medicating of children, in my view.
 
2010-02-01 11:23:10 AM
General_Failure: I see C&H's end like I see Arrested Development's. Really, really sorry to see them end, but even more glad that they didn't go on waaaaay too far and become crappy.

This. I just watched Season 3 yesterday, yes, it was a lazy day. And as funny as that show was, I am glad it didn't get crappy.

Niether the comic nor the show every jumped the shark.
 
2010-02-01 11:23:14 AM
FightDirector: I totally apologize - I always saw that as a good image. Mea Cupla.

Fair enough. The last two you posted more than make up for it. Absolutely beautiful.
 
2010-02-01 11:23:16 AM
stuhayes2010: Was Garfield ever good? Even as a kid, I was born in 1977, Garfield wasn't funny. I just always thought Cathy was for chicks.

I always thought Cathy was for gnarled mutants who were too stupid to comprehend Rex Morgan.
 
2010-02-01 11:23:21 AM
stuhayes2010: Was Garfield ever good? Even as a kid, I was born in 1977, Garfield wasn't funny.

Actually, from 1977 to about, say, 1983, Garfield was amusing, sometimes laugh-out-loud funny a times (at least, to a ten-year-old kid). I had the books up to about #10. It was about then I noticed the quality was beginning to fade--or I started growing up and noticed that it really did suck.
 
2010-02-01 11:24:22 AM
thamike: I always thought Cathy was for gnarled mutants who were too stupid to comprehend Rex Morgan Apartment 3-G or Mary Worth.

FIFY.
 
2010-02-01 11:24:50 AM
stuhayes2010: Babwa Wawa: eddyatwork: Could someone explain why Calvin and Hobbes is gone while crap like Cathy and Garfield lives on?

Because Watterson quit before it could morph into something tired and bad. He placed the integrity of the strip above his desire for money.

Was Garfield ever good? Even as a kid, I was born in 1977, Garfield wasn't funny. I just always thought Cathy was for chicks.


Hope there isn't any dust in your office (new window)
 
2010-02-01 11:25:13 AM
I know it's blasphemy, but I think the strip where Calvin and Susie are getting it on is hilarious.
 
2010-02-01 11:25:15 AM
My favorite episode was when Calvin and Hobbes found an injured squirrel, and got Mom to help nurse it back to health. But it died anyway.

Rarely do comic strips, let alone novels, achieve that level of emotional transcence away from their medium as that strip did.

// Sorely missed, but greatly appreciated.
// Rest well, Mr. Watterson.
 
2010-02-01 11:26:07 AM
theorellior: FIFY.

Yes. But, speaking of Rex Morgan, I took it upon myself to rectify the situation:

www.thamike.com
 
2010-02-01 11:26:24 AM
Loadmaster: My favorite episode was when Calvin and Hobbes found an injured squirrel, and got Mom to help nurse it back to health. But it died anyway.

Rarely do comic strips, let alone novels, achieve that level of emotional transcence away from their medium as that strip did.

// Sorely missed, but greatly appreciated.
// Rest well, Mr. Watterson.


Baby raccoon.

But, still, yeah.
 
2010-02-01 11:26:25 AM
OniNeko: Calvin pissing on Calvin bowing before the cross.

I swore I've seen at least one sticker that had Calvin pissing on the cross.
 
2010-02-01 11:26:50 AM
stuhayes2010: Garfield wasn't funny.

Heathcliff
 
2010-02-01 11:26:59 AM
:-(

I miss that comic so much, I would lose myself reading them.
 
Ant
2010-02-01 11:27:20 AM
FeedTheCollapse: is it just me, or is this much worse than Calvin Peeing?:

Much, much worse.
 
2010-02-01 11:27:47 AM
Fano: stuhayes2010: Babwa Wawa: eddyatwork: Could someone explain why Calvin and Hobbes is gone while crap like Cathy and Garfield lives on?

Because Watterson quit before it could morph into something tired and bad. He placed the integrity of the strip above his desire for money.

Was Garfield ever good? Even as a kid, I was born in 1977, Garfield wasn't funny. I just always thought Cathy was for chicks.

Hope there isn't any dust in your office (new window)


Y'know, I started to watch that, and then I stopped. I have a sense that's pretty much going to wreck me for the day.
 
2010-02-01 11:28:35 AM
FeedTheCollapse: OniNeko: Calvin pissing on Calvin bowing before the cross.

I swore I've seen at least one sticker that had Calvin pissing on the cross.


I don't mean in a way to insult religion, but as a show of insult to those that would use Calvin's popularity to proselytize for religion or market a product.
 
2010-02-01 11:28:58 AM
bessyglass: Heathcliff

I bet a quick GIS would reveal a Heathcliff/Garfield/Marmaduke three-way.

theblackboxoffice.com

close...
 
2010-02-01 11:29:13 AM
theorellior: I know it's blasphemy, but I think the strip where Calvin and Susie are getting it on is hilarious.

I see it as a natural continuation of the relationship.

What would have been blasphemous would be a three way between Calvin, Hobbs and Susie.
 
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