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(News.com.au)   Far be it from us to cast aspersions on the quality of the US education system, but while your kids are competing in spelling bees, Australian children have a contest which tests their knowledge of advanced neuroscience   (news.com.au) divider line 127
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2010-02-01 08:15:58 AM  
And the home-schoolers are kicking ass in the spelling bees.

Here's your name-tag and hairnet. Hope you liked celebrating diversity in school instead of celebrating math.
 
2010-02-01 08:39:16 AM  
FTFA: As the Australian Brain Bee Champion, she will travel to California for the International Brain Bee Challenge in August.

So, obviously, no Americans will be at this "Brain Bee." Right, subby?
 
2010-02-01 08:44:24 AM  
Hey, i'll be the first person to take the piss out of any article referencing the words "america" and "education" in the same sentence, but:

http://www.internationalbrainbee.com/startup.html (new window)

No cigar, subby.
 
2010-02-01 08:46:02 AM  
Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.
 
2010-02-01 08:48:15 AM  
Aspersions

A-S-P-E-R-S-I-W-T-F

Ebert made me.
 
2010-02-01 09:15:07 AM  
benlonghair: Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

I agree and disagree. If you spell things incorrectly in your business correspondences, others will think you are an idiot regardless of the content of the message. I agree, though, that spelling is not necessarily an indicator of intelligence (even if people use it that way). I've known people who were horrible spellers and yet they excelled in every subject they attempted in school from elementary through college.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.

This place would become a ghost town ;P
 
2010-02-01 09:15:32 AM  
benlonghair: Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.

That would make political tab thread so hilarious...

FreeperWingNut: HA HA Libtards!!! You know that ACORN had no part to play at all in the election of Obama and is being used as a smokescreen by the right to hide the innefectiveness of their candidate and their message.

FreeperWingNut: Hey! I didn't write that! I meant to write: You know that ACORN had no part to play at all in the election of Obama and is being used as a smokescreen by the right to hide the innefectiveness of their candidate and their message.

FreeperWingNut: WTF? Sigh. I give up!
 
2010-02-01 09:20:57 AM  
Uma Jha...Australian runner-up was Andrew Li

Yeah, Asian kids pretty much win all of our contests too.
 
2010-02-01 10:05:22 AM  
Hey y'all, can ya dumb that headline down fer me? I think subby just called us queers.
 
2010-02-01 10:32:25 AM  
Oh, and it's cast dispersions, you horrendous ass.

/pet peeve
 
2010-02-01 10:36:55 AM  
Gulper Eel: And the home-schoolers are kicking ass in the spelling bees.

Yeah, kicking ass in the important field of producing weirdos who can spell "ranunculaceous" from memory--good for them.
 
2010-02-01 10:42:05 AM  
hillbillypharmacist: Oh, and it's cast dispersions, you horrendous ass.

/pet peeve


That's very interesting. I'd never heard it phrased like that before.

/Not subby
 
2010-02-01 10:42:27 AM  
ne2d: good for them.

You never know when that might come in handy...
 
2010-02-01 10:52:11 AM  
Gulper Eel: And the home-schoolers are kicking ass in the spelling bees.

Here's your name-tag and hairnet. Hope you liked celebrating diversity in school instead of celebrating math.


It's not really fair to compare the homeschoolers to mainstream students. The kids being homeschooled that are excelling at crap like spelling bees are basically training the way that any athlete might. That's not to say that they're dumb, but I would put money that any homeschholer winning these contests doesn't have nearly the breadth of knowledge that a smart kid coming out of a good public school would.
 
2010-02-01 11:04:41 AM  
IrateShadow: I would put money that any homeschholer winning these contests doesn't have nearly the breadth of knowledge that a smart kid coming out of a good public school would.


Yeah. But they get awesome girlfriends with bright, shiny teeth...
 
2010-02-01 11:05:12 AM  
Talon: benlonghair: Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

I agree and disagree. If you spell things incorrectly in your business correspondences, others will think you are an idiot regardless of the content of the message. I agree, though, that spelling is not necessarily an indicator of intelligence (even if people use it that way). I've known people who were horrible spellers and yet they excelled in every subject they attempted in school from elementary through college.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.

This place would become a ghost town ;P


So THAT'S what the underlines on certain words are!

Auto spellcheck is kinda like a car alarm at this point: a good idea that
has become so pervasive that it is routinely ignored.
 
2010-02-01 11:55:49 AM  
the Australian kids do have the advantage of being able to do medical research on humans
 
2010-02-01 11:56:07 AM  
I'm heading to the Grammar Rodeo, so I'm getting a kick out of this, subby.
 
2010-02-01 11:57:28 AM  
turtleking: the Australian kids do have the advantage of being able to do medical research on humans

And they've got that whole rocketry program, too.
 
2010-02-01 11:58:13 AM  
Isn't Fark all about casting aspersions on ... everything?
 
2010-02-01 11:59:00 AM  
I guess you have a lot of time to study neuroscience when your dad has kept you locked up in an underground compound since birth.

/Fritzl.
 
2010-02-01 11:59:09 AM  
Well, the world needs ditch diggers too...
 
2010-02-01 11:59:25 AM  
Far be it from us to cast aspersions on the quality of the US education system, but while your kids are competing in spelling bees, Australian children have a contest which tests their knowledge of advanced neuroscience

Big deal. My 6 year old son is learning applied physics:

img694.imageshack.us
 
2010-02-01 11:59:26 AM  
benlonghair: Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.


And yet, there are still numerous misspellings on the internets.

It's almost as if nobody told them what that little red underline means...
 
2010-02-01 12:00:38 PM  
Perducci: turtleking: the Australian kids do have the advantage of being able to do medical research on humans

And they've got that whole rocketry program, too.


And snazzy uniforms. So much easier to dress the kids that way.
 
2010-02-01 12:01:25 PM  
Starryeyes: benlonghair: Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.

And yet, there are still numerous misspellings on the internets.

It's almost as if nobody told them what that little red underline means...


Even more amazing - not everyone uses FF.
 
2010-02-01 12:01:39 PM  
Enforcing a minimum standard is racist.
 
2010-02-01 12:02:27 PM  
Now I am willing to give up neuroscience for a month over booze.
/and they will too.
 
2010-02-01 12:03:24 PM  
benlonghair: Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.

How would this affect my pass time of ridiculing people in the Politics tab for taking things way too seriously?
 
2010-02-01 12:04:13 PM  
Teachers unions have fought hard to build a system that is the envy of the world. They can keep their "advanced science"; we have diversity training.
 
2010-02-01 12:04:28 PM  
My grandad met my grandmum in Australia.

/when I say met I mean raped.
//brb, gotta murder a brown snake
 
2010-02-01 12:04:32 PM  
Gulper Eel: And the home-schoolers are kicking ass in the spelling bees.

Here's your name-tag and hairnet. Hope you liked celebrating diversity in school instead of celebrating math.


Here's the thing about home-schooling:

It is basically about keeping your child away from non-Christians and minorities. Plus, artificially inflating your child's grades and test scores. Oh, and let's not forget stunting their social skills.

Yeah, there are exceptions, but they're just that - EXCEPTIONS. I've encountered quite a few families that home school their kids, and almost all of them are nuts. And the kids turn out to be nuts, too.
 
2010-02-01 12:05:01 PM  
benlonghair: Spelling is not all that important to intelligence. I mean seriously, everyone has a spell checker built into Firefox.

Imagine if there was a fact- or intelligence-checker and what it would do to Fark.


It's a pretty good indicator of poor intelligence, at least to me.

Spell check is not perfect, either. It's the reason why I read dumb shiat like "I don't want to weight that long" and "sneak peak" on the internet.
 
2010-02-01 12:05:22 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Laughs
 
2010-02-01 12:06:00 PM  
xanadian: FTFA: As the Australian Brain Bee Champion, she will travel to California for the International Brain Bee Challenge in August.

So, obviously, no Americans will be at this "Brain Bee." Right, subby?


Came here to say this. Sad to see this comment is, thus far, being ignored.

Does the U.S. have systemic problems with its education system? Hell yes. And I can't wait to help fix them, or to support someone to do a better job of it. But let's just remember - the brainiest child in Australia is coming here to compete, not the other way around.
 
2010-02-01 12:07:21 PM  
GoldSpider: Teachers unions have fought hard to build a system that is the envy of the world. They can keep their "advanced science"; we have diversity training.

Teachers unions my ass. Have you met a staff member at a school district? Most of them are ignorant as fark, and they get a bigger share of the wealth than teachers do.
 
2010-02-01 12:07:30 PM  
It's well-known that Australia and Canada are the generally most well-educated countries in the English-speaking world. (Most-well-educated referring to the general education of the average Joe Shmoe, not the specialized knowledge of Dr. Calculusisawesomebutwhatsapronoun that seems to be overtaking even the best American Academia)

And spelling bees are just memorization contests. Not a particularly good measure of either intelligence or education. Those who are good at it should be proud, sure, but no more so than cup stackers, pool sharks, or any other practitioner of a highly specialized skill-oriented contest.
 
2010-02-01 12:07:54 PM  
umm, most other countries/languages don't have spelling bees. Why? Because if you can say the word, you can spell it. English has a habit of keeping foreign words in a near native spelling.
 
2010-02-01 12:09:55 PM  
No_One_Special: And spelling bees are just memorization contests.

I'd contest this statement slightly. Sure, there's a lot of memorization involved, but there's application of spelling rules involved. That's why the kids ask for country of origin, definition, etc.
 
2010-02-01 12:10:01 PM  
Why is it then, subby, that Australians come over HERE to have real neuroscience done? Huh? It won't be for much longer if Obama gets his way.

/obligatory
 
2010-02-01 12:11:12 PM  
Um, yeah, the biggest threat in the education race comes from Australia. Um, yeah
 
2010-02-01 12:11:25 PM  
realmolo: Gulper Eel: And the home-schoolers are kicking ass in the spelling bees.

Here's your name-tag and hairnet. Hope you liked celebrating diversity in school instead of celebrating math.

Here's the thing about home-schooling:

It is basically about keeping your child away from non-Christians and minorities. Plus, artificially inflating your child's grades and test scores. Oh, and let's not forget stunting their social skills.

Yeah, there are exceptions, but they're just that - EXCEPTIONS. I've encountered quite a few families that home school their kids, and almost all of them are nuts. And the kids turn out to be nuts, too.


There is a palpable lack of pictures of what a homeschooled wife might look like.
 
2010-02-01 12:12:37 PM  
Not sure Australian's should be bragging about how great they are as parents.

www.abc.net.au
 
2010-02-01 12:13:42 PM  
Goddamnit! You can't try and teach important stuff to kids! They're supposed to... lessee... barely learn to read.. some 'ritmetic, um.. pick their noses, pick fights, get acne.. some useless diploma..

And THEN they can go to a university where it costs MONEY to learn things.

Damnit, if something generates a profit, we ain't gonna just GIVE it away to.. KIDS, for God's sake.

What the hell's wrong with you people. The educational system has been carefully structured to put that carrot on that stick and keep those checks rolling in. How can we run a society if we don't make kids WAIT to learn the important stuff so they can join society at 25 with enough debt to choke a horse? DEBT! That's what we make here! Fu*k those snot nosed little sh*ts!
 
2010-02-01 12:14:10 PM  
My kid can spell neuroscience.

And she performed a lobotomy on our cat.
 
2010-02-01 12:14:50 PM  
dittybopper: Far be it from us to cast aspersions on the quality of the US education system, but while your kids are competing in spelling bees, Australian children have a contest which tests their knowledge of advanced neuroscience

Big deal. My 6 year old son is learning applied physics:


I have serious problems with six year olds in uniform, bearing weapons. I was gonna say something stronger, but hell, it's your kid. Carry on.
 
2010-02-01 12:16:15 PM  
starsrift: dittybopper: Far be it from us to cast aspersions on the quality of the US education system, but while your kids are competing in spelling bees, Australian children have a contest which tests their knowledge of advanced neuroscience

Big deal. My 6 year old son is learning applied physics:

I have serious problems with six year olds in uniform, bearing weapons. I was gonna say something stronger, but hell, it's your kid. Carry on.


If you want your kid to be a supreme douche bag, you need to start them early.
 
2010-02-01 12:16:50 PM  
bunner: Goddamnit! You can't try and teach important stuff to kids! They're supposed to... lessee... barely learn to read.. some 'ritmetic, um.. pick their noses, pick fights, get acne.. some useless diploma..

And THEN they can go to a university where it costs MONEY to learn things.

Damnit, if something generates a profit, we ain't gonna just GIVE it away to.. KIDS, for God's sake.

What the hell's wrong with you people. The educational system has been carefully structured to put that carrot on that stick and keep those checks rolling in. How can we run a society if we don't make kids WAIT to learn the important stuff so they can join society at 25 with enough debt to choke a horse? DEBT! That's what we make here! Fu*k those snot nosed little sh*ts!


Almost makes me cry.
/slow clap
 
2010-02-01 12:19:29 PM  
There's a geography bee too, for kids who specialize in a different sort of totally useless trivia. I was pretty good at that one.
 
2010-02-01 12:20:41 PM  
Shostie: No_One_Special: And spelling bees are just memorization contests.

I'd contest this statement slightly. Sure, there's a lot of memorization involved, but there's application of spelling rules involved. That's why the kids ask for country of origin, definition, etc.


Are they required to memorize these rules?
 
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