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(CNN)   Frank Buckles, the last surviving U.S. WW1 veteran turns 109 today. We will stand on your lawn only so that we may salute you, kind sir   (cnn.com) divider line 281
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2010-01-31 10:44:09 PM
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Indeed
 
2010-01-31 10:51:18 PM
Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?
 
2010-01-31 11:02:06 PM
DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

During the war Buckles served in England and France, driving ambulances and motorcycles for the Army's 1st Fort Riley Casualty Detachment. After the Armistice in 1918, Buckles escorted prisoners of war back to Germany.

In the 1940s Buckles worked for a shipping company in Manila, Philippines. He was captured by the Japanese in 1942 and spent the next three and a half years in the Los Baños prison camp. He became malnourished, with a weight below 100 lb, and developed beriberi, yet led his fellow inmates in calisthenics. He was rescued on February 23, 1945.

Up to you about calling him a hero or not but that's his war record via wikipedia.
 
2010-01-31 11:02:52 PM
Gwendolyn: DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

During the war Buckles served in England and France, driving ambulances and motorcycles for the Army's 1st Fort Riley Casualty Detachment. After the Armistice in 1918, Buckles escorted prisoners of war back to Germany.

In the 1940s Buckles worked for a shipping company in Manila, Philippines. He was captured by the Japanese in 1942 and spent the next three and a half years in the Los Baños prison camp. He became malnourished, with a weight below 100 lb, and developed beriberi, yet led his fellow inmates in calisthenics. He was rescued on February 23, 1945.

Up to you about calling him a hero or not but that's his war record via wikipedia.


Sounds like he had some tough luck. Oof.
 
2010-01-31 11:04:04 PM
DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

He was an ambulance driver in the first world war. That should count.

It's not really who he is though. It's what he represents. He represents a generation almost lost, many of whom served their country and many of whom died for it. I think that deserves a Hero tag in itself.
 
2010-01-31 11:04:47 PM
rynoon: DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

He was an ambulance driver in the first world war. That should count.

It's not really who he is though. It's what he represents. He represents a generation almost lost, many of whom served their country and many of whom died for it. I think that deserves a Hero tag in itself.


He represents world war I. In that sense it should be the "FAIL" or "sad" tag.
 
2010-01-31 11:05:31 PM
What a great name. Frankie Buckles.
 
2010-01-31 11:07:03 PM
DamnYankees: In that sense it should be the "FAIL" or "sad" tag.

Pretty much just you are fail or sad.
 
2010-01-31 11:14:47 PM
DamnYankees: rynoon: DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

He was an ambulance driver in the first world war. That should count.

It's not really who he is though. It's what he represents. He represents a generation almost lost, many of whom served their country and many of whom died for it. I think that deserves a Hero tag in itself.

He represents world war I. In that sense it should be the "FAIL" or "sad" tag.


Whole lot of projection going on. How about he represents someone who volunteered for his country. Did his duty.
 
2010-01-31 11:15:42 PM
2wolves: Whole lot of projection going on. How about he represents someone who volunteered for his country. Did his duty.

Did he volunteer? WWI and WWII were draft wars.

I seriously don't know if this guy was drafted or not.
 
2010-01-31 11:19:40 PM
DamnYankees: 2wolves: Whole lot of projection going on. How about he represents someone who volunteered for his country. Did his duty.

Did he volunteer? WWI and WWII were draft wars.

I seriously don't know if this guy was drafted or not.


Seriously, just have some damn respect. You are not half the man to be judging Frank Buckles.
 
2010-01-31 11:22:09 PM
R.A.Danny: Seriously, just have some damn respect. You are not half the man to be judging Frank Buckles.

Have I shown a lack of respect to the guy? Is the opposite of "he's a hero" now disrespect? Please.

I feel bad for him, like I do most soldiers in those ridiculous wars.
 
2010-01-31 11:27:23 PM
DamnYankees: I feel bad for him, like I do most soldiers in those ridiculous wars.

He doesn't need your pity.
 
2010-01-31 11:28:00 PM
R.A.Danny: DamnYankees: I feel bad for him, like I do most soldiers in those ridiculous wars.

He doesn't need your pity.


I don't pity him. He simply has my empathy.
 
2010-01-31 11:28:01 PM
DamnYankees: R.A.Danny: Seriously, just have some damn respect. You are not half the man to be judging Frank Buckles.

Have I shown a lack of respect to the guy? Is the opposite of "he's a hero" now disrespect? Please.

I feel bad for him, like I do most soldiers in those ridiculous wars.


Trolling 101. You get an A+. Nicely done.
 
2010-01-31 11:29:23 PM
superdolfan1: Trolling 101. You get an A+. Nicely done.

I've never trolled in my life.

World War I and World War II were largely entirely lament-worthy wars where millions and millions of people died in vain. Merely being one of the people who died, or one of the people lucky enough not to, is not in and of itself a mark of a hero.
 
2010-01-31 11:39:14 PM
Knock yourself out, Doughboy.

img130.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-31 11:41:26 PM
i369.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-31 11:41:43 PM
DamnYankees: World War I and World War II were largely entirely lament-worthy wars where millions and millions of people died in vain. Merely being one of the people who died, or one of the people lucky enough not to, is not in and of itself a mark of a hero.

I agree. Having said that, I would still salute the man -- not even standing on his lawn -- just to honor their memory. The glory and honor of war is mostly manufactured by people who never actually take part in it, except maybe to start it, or profit from it. Doesn't sound like he did either, and that alone is worth a salute.
 
2010-01-31 11:43:36 PM
oldebayer: DamnYankees: World War I and World War II were largely entirely lament-worthy wars where millions and millions of people died in vain. Merely being one of the people who died, or one of the people lucky enough not to, is not in and of itself a mark of a hero.

I agree. Having said that, I would still salute the man -- not even standing on his lawn -- just to honor their memory. The glory and honor of war is mostly manufactured by people who never actually take part in it, except maybe to start it, or profit from it. Doesn't sound like he did either, and that alone is worth a salute.


Sure. I respect him as much as any other man. I'd call him "sir" and greet him warmly, and I'd love to pick his brain if his memory is still in good shape.
 
2010-01-31 11:52:49 PM
DamnYankees: oldebayer: DamnYankees: World War I and World War II were largely entirely lament-worthy wars where millions and millions of people died in vain. Merely being one of the people who died, or one of the people lucky enough not to, is not in and of itself a mark of a hero.

I agree. Having said that, I would still salute the man -- not even standing on his lawn -- just to honor their memory. The glory and honor of war is mostly manufactured by people who never actually take part in it, except maybe to start it, or profit from it. Doesn't sound like he did either, and that alone is worth a salute.

Sure. I respect him as much as any other man. I'd call him "sir" and greet him warmly, and I'd love to pick his brain if his memory is still in good shape.


In good shape is something you wouldn't be in if he met you.
 
2010-01-31 11:52:54 PM
If you've ever ridden in the back of an ambulance and lived to tell the tale, then the ambulance driver is about as heroic as it gets.
 
2010-01-31 11:53:44 PM
stevegarbowski: In good shape is something you wouldn't be in if he met you.

I've actually been working out recently. I'm in pretty good shape.
 
2010-01-31 11:58:00 PM
DamnYankees: I've actually been working out recently. I'm in pretty good shape.

I hope you're in better shape than the eye-bleach-worthy pic NewportBarGuy foisted on us all.
 
2010-02-01 12:02:04 AM
Thank you sir, for all you've done for your country.
 
2010-02-01 12:02:31 AM
oldebayer: I hope you're in better shape than the eye-bleach-worthy pic NewportBarGuy foisted on us all.

Hey, maybe Frank's a tit man? You ever think of that?
 
2010-02-01 12:38:17 AM
DamnYankees: R.A.Danny: DamnYankees: I feel bad for him, like I do most soldiers in those ridiculous wars.

He doesn't need your pity.

I don't pity him. He simply has my empathy.


I get the feeling that you can't come anywhere close to empathizing with this guy. He is a hero simply for going through that sh*t and coming out alive. Twice.
 
2010-02-01 12:39:26 AM
cameroncrazy1984: He is a hero simply for going through that sh*t and coming out alive. Twice.

I just don't subscribe to this characterization of heroism. Far too diluted to me.
 
2010-02-01 12:49:52 AM
DamnYankees: cameroncrazy1984: He is a hero simply for going through that sh*t and coming out alive. Twice.

I just don't subscribe to this characterization of heroism. Far too diluted to me.


He made the other poor dumb son of biatches die for the their country, without having to die for his first.

Good enough yet?

Seriously though, unless he was an old deserter, I think hero applies for the last surviving soldier of a great war.

"I'm the sole survivor!" (new window)

I'm just hoping he isn't dyslexic. "Hi! My name is Frank Buckles!"
 
2010-02-01 12:57:11 AM
DamnYankees: cameroncrazy1984: He is a hero simply for going through that sh*t and coming out alive. Twice.

I just don't subscribe to this characterization of heroism. Far too diluted to me.


Yeah yeah, we get it. You're a rebel.
 
2010-02-01 01:15:54 AM
img.photobucket.com
 
2010-02-01 03:07:20 AM
NewportBarGuy: img130.imageshack.us

You deserve a cockpunch for that picture. There is such a thing as too much boob on one person.
 
2010-02-01 03:35:08 AM
I thought the last remaining WWI vet died last year. But now this dude was between 13 and 17 years old when he joined the war? WTF?
 
2010-02-01 03:52:58 AM
Epsilon: I thought the last remaining WWI vet died last year

That was the last WWI vet from Britain. Harry Patch. Died at age 111.
 
2010-02-01 03:59:38 AM
stevegarbowski: DamnYankees: oldebayer: DamnYankees: World War I and World War II were largely entirely lament-worthy wars where millions and millions of people died in vain. Merely being one of the people who died, or one of the people lucky enough not to, is not in and of itself a mark of a hero.

I agree. Having said that, I would still salute the man -- not even standing on his lawn -- just to honor their memory. The glory and honor of war is mostly manufactured by people who never actually take part in it, except maybe to start it, or profit from it. Doesn't sound like he did either, and that alone is worth a salute.

Sure. I respect him as much as any other man. I'd call him "sir" and greet him warmly, and I'd love to pick his brain if his memory is still in good shape.

In good shape is something you wouldn't be in if he met you.


What would he do? Gum him to death?
 
2010-02-01 06:31:06 AM
DamnYankee's trolling is possible only because there were people like
Frank Buckles in previous generations.

That said: I've seen the memorial he's talking about, and it does need to
be restored/revived/cleaned up and given National Monument status. It isn't
that far from the Lincoln Memorial and the Vietnam and Korean War memorials,
but you'd never know it for all the trees and overgrown foliage.

The Doughboys deserve better.
 
2010-02-01 06:43:44 AM
DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

Obvious troll is obvious.
 
2010-02-01 06:45:04 AM
Yes, I've seen the monument, too. It's a disgrace, and should be restored from top to bottom. They deserve it.

I remember my mom telling me that when she was little they'd "trot out a handful of Civil War vets" in the Independence Day parade. She thought it was pretty amazing.
 
2010-02-01 06:45:04 AM
www.cartwilliams.com
 
2010-02-01 06:46:56 AM
www.talkingproud.us
 
2010-02-01 06:54:12 AM
Epsilon :
I thought the last remaining WWI vet died last year. But now this dude was between 13 and 17 years old when he joined the war? WTF?


You have to look at it this way men from that generation were from a different ilk. It was not unusual for kids as young as 12 to try and join the military as young as 12. back then they did not have the same documentation criteria that we have now to join the military. WWII and prior there was no crime fraudulently enlisting they just sent you home, or if by the time they figured it out you were old enough to serve they just let you stay.
 
2010-02-01 06:58:43 AM
DjangoStonereaver: DamnYankee's trolling is possible only because there were people like
Frank Buckles in previous generations.

That said: I've seen the memorial he's talking about, and it does need to
be restored/revived/cleaned up and given National Monument status. It isn't
that far from the Lincoln Memorial and the Vietnam and Korean War memorials,
but you'd never know it for all the trees and overgrown foliage.

The Doughboys deserve better.


DamnYankees is not trolling. The only significant thing about this thread is the overall complete agreement, only sullied by the blind patriotic reaction some people have toward old veterans.

Damnyankees is presenting a sympathetic reaction for all the right reasons, tempered by not overreacting to knee-jerk patriotism. His viewpoint seems to be the objective one, not the "doughboys deserve better" "vague assertion that the 109-yr-old would totally BEAT HIS ASS" "projection!" "show some respect, maggot!" bullshiat.

Come on fark. What the fark. Thread full of people i have favorited going apeshiat for no reason.

Tell me how you would similarly overreact to any situation involving the 50-odd Vietnam vets that live within 10 miles of you...
 
2010-02-01 07:02:43 AM
DamnYankees, Something is wrong with you. Seriously.
 
2010-02-01 07:04:37 AM
DamnYankees: Why is an old soldier a hero? Did he do something heroic?

He's an American soldier, and as such he is to be worshiped as the demigod that he is... as all American soldiers are.

At least that the impression I get.
 
2010-02-01 07:07:07 AM
Epsilon: I thought the last remaining WWI vet died last year. But now this dude was between 13 and 17 years old when he joined the war? WTF?

That other guy was the last surviving *combat* veteran from WWI. Frank Buckles never saw combat, he was an ambulance driver. Much safer and healthier job, although he probably saw a few artillery bombardments.
 
2010-02-01 07:08:13 AM
I and these gallant soldiers salute Mr. Buckles:

i78.photobucket.com
 
2010-02-01 07:08:23 AM
Jesus Christ, you ridiculous tools, can't you just grant for a moment that DamnYankees has a reasonable position here even though your own feelings or experience don't allow you to agree? Does it really rile you up that badly that someone needs a little more information before bestowing the "hero" title on someone he's never met and is unlikely to ever learn much about?
 
2010-02-01 07:13:22 AM
Ambulance driver was not all that much safer and healthier than infantryman in WW1. It's a novel, but Hemmingway's "Farewell to Arms" will give a little insight. There is also a pretty decent book entitled "Gentlemen Volunteers" by Arlen Hansen about the Americans who volunteered to drive ambulances in the French army prior to US entry into the war. Easy enough way to get killed.
 
2010-02-01 07:13:28 AM
FIRST, he is 109. Don't care who or what you are here, lasting 109 years is better than most ANY of us.
Second he served his country, and is continuing to serve by speaking his mind, in public about things he believes in. Not in some chat room.
Third, I respect him for doing the right thing, helping his vet's back then and still now.

Hero?? You bet. To some who respect this kind of thing. And I for one do. Thank you Frank. And Happy Birthday!
 
2010-02-01 07:14:51 AM
Fair_Poopsmith: Jesus Christ, you ridiculous tools, can't you just grant for a moment that DamnYankees has a reasonable position here even though your own feelings or experience don't allow you to agree? Does it really rile you up that badly that someone needs a little more information before bestowing the "hero" title on someone he's never met and is unlikely to ever learn much about?

Don't get the pussies riled up, they're liable to get all internet-y at you
 
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