Oh National Joke, you're always good for a laugh, you silly Conservative rag.

dramboxf: lantawa: That's gonna be my new line: Hey, I'm gonna occupy you like you've never been occupied before.

The real trick will be to pull a Cheney. Insist that you'll be greeted as a liberator, NOT as an occupier.

Even the most hardcore hooker doesn't have room down there for rows of cheering Iraqi peasants.

I love how the author doesn't have the balls to put their name on that piece of crap. Editorial "board" my ass.

I had no idea Canada had reactionary pricks too; they always seem so reluctant to offend. Maybe it's different when they think no one outside their country is looking.

I'm not sure when feminism and women's studies was about advocating equality, but it hasn't been as far as I can remember.

robmilmel: dramboxf: lantawa: That's gonna be my new line: Hey, I'm gonna occupy you like you've never been occupied before.

The real trick will be to pull a Cheney. Insist that you'll be greeted as a liberator, NOT as an occupier.

With me, it might last 6 seconds...I doubt 6 minutes.

Going for the shock and ... _ahh.

lantawa: FTFA:
Over the years, Women's Studies scholars have argued all heterosexual sex is oppression because its "penetrative nature" amounts to "occupation."

/That's gonna be my new line: Hey, I'm gonna occupy you like you've never been occupied before.

Like the Israelis in Palestine, baby.

Seriously though, who the fark wrote this article, and why have they not been beaten with a shovel yet?

Wow. Just...wow. I wonder what kind of drugs TFA author is on?

robmilmel: dramboxf: lantawa: That's gonna be my new line: Hey, I'm gonna occupy you like you've never been occupied before.

The real trick will be to pull a Cheney. Insist that you'll be greeted as a liberator, NOT as an occupier.

With me, it might last 6 seconds...I doubt 6 minutes.

My occupations could potentially last a thousand years.

Women's Studies programs are great! They easily identify which women any sane man should stay far, far away from.

"Hey, what's your major?"
"Women's Studies"
"I'm gay and I think I hear my mother calling. Bye."

Well that was a shiat article. I kept reading it wondering when they were going to be more specific and define "Women's Studies."

/3 minutes of my life I want back
//that's what she said

As with everything else, there will be people involved in Women's Studies programs (and newspapers) more interested in dividing us monkeys along their preferred lines than by bringing us together.

Editorial board =

Divide and conquer is an effective way to win. So who is doing the dividing here?

At least we should encourage cooperation rather than division to make a better world.

xiaodown: This piece, ostensibly spurred by the recent changes of Women Studies departments across Canada to names such as Gender, Social Justice, or Sexuality Studies, has left me completely dumbfounded as how such regressive and hateful speech could possibly be allowed to go to print. The premise of this piece, as one in relation to the name change, is simply an excuse to attempt to legitimize sexist thought.

Both authors seem equally sparse on facts and heavy on bloviating.

You've come a long way, baby.

I'm glad this carefully considered, unbiased article could bring to light the horror of this field of study.

Powerslacker:2/10 for effort.

And this America, is why Canada is a farkin' crazy place, aside from Quebec French.

National Post editorial board, National Post = Nancy Boys

xiaodown: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/beisan-zubi/2010/01/national-post-fails-women-s t udies-homework

This piece, ostensibly spurred by the recent changes of Women Studies departments across Canada to names such as Gender, Social Justice, or Sexuality Studies, has left me completely dumbfounded as how such regressive and hateful speech could possibly be allowed to go to print. The premise of this piece, as one in relation to the name change, is simply an excuse to attempt to legitimize sexist thought.

Not only does the story reek of white, male privilege (arguing among other things, that it is unnecessary for judges to undergo diversity training, equitable hiring practices are unfair, and that universal daycare and mandatory kindergarten (!!!) are somehow detrimental to our societal fabric) but it is a shocking display in ignorance as well. None of the 'signs' of damage to Canada are in any way qualified, and the article seems more like one disgruntled man's recounting of stories he heard in the sauna of a country club than anything resembling fact: "Oh, poor Conrad!" While I am convinced none of the authors have ever attended a Women Studies course, it is impossible for me to know this for sure, as none of the authors (or most likely the single, deluded author) is named.

Such programs take young minds who have never been trained to think, and turns them into paranoid parrots with a limited but highly charged vocabulary.

They're like B-School for cranks.

Wow - they have wingnuts in Canada? Who knew??

Seriously, though, the Andrea Dworkin kind of feminism has always been too scary. I'm sure being psychotically bitter helped kill that pathetic woman.

I do miss Gloria Steinem, though.

lantawa: Over the years, Women's Studies scholars have argued all heterosexual sex is oppression because its "penetrative nature" amounts to "occupation."


I just started a class about deviance, and the professor is a whiny liberal a-hole, and calls himself a feminist. He actually suggested the other night that it was a bad thing for women to have to prove they were raped...Because, you know, it's ok to accuse someone of something so horrific with no evidence.

I'm a feminist, too, in that I think men and women should be treated equally. What ever happened to people just wanting everyone to be equal?

I love women's studies classes.

I'm the one guy, I talk about gender equality and how I believe in equal, honest partnership, and I get to swim in feminist poon.

Pfft. You aint been occupied until you been occupied by a turkey baster

/approves

"Fear leads to the dark side. I sense much fear in TFA writer."

This is like a Scientology editorial about the mental health profession.

xiaodown

Sexist thought. Check.
White male privilege. Check.
Diversity training. Check.
Shocking display of ignorance. Check.
Sauna of a country club. Check.

Wow. Thanks for summarizing for us what is probably the core essence of every Women's Studies program. And you did it so well. I'm going to guess you probably minored in some other grievance studies as well. You know, to be well rounded.

Have no problem with women's studies as long as it isn't 'angry' women's studies. There is no point in teaching anger. One of the largest thing I have seen since families and schools telling their girls that they can do anything, that they're great and to be self reliant is that many of the traditional values that were taught to boys when they were taught these same topics also stressed being a gentleman, being polite, holding doors, never hitting a lady, etc. One MAJOR thing missing from the women's movement is the same teaching of manners. The end result is a power wave of mannerless, classless angry women that get pissed when you hold a door for them.

To sum up, let women do as they please, and if they want to be treated equal then act it. The meanest, most senseless, most vindictive people on the planet wear a bra. How about teaching some manners along with that equality.

/flame on...

That author sounds fat. And divorced, probably because he is fat.

I took one women's studies course in college, and it was intense. The professor baited me to come out of the closet (as a gay male). I was very unsure about my sexuality, but she made it very clear I could better contribute to the class if I were less ambiguous and more gay. I ended up with a C- in the class, which given the rest of my grades was a huge outlier--she was the head of the department though, so not much I could do. Hegemonic masculinity. That was the big theme of the class. And how women like Gwen Stefani were discriminated against because of being overweight by hegemonic males, something like that. That was a big argument I got into with her--she claimed Gwen Stefani was considered overweight by men and thus discriminated against. Britney Spears was also a victim of men, as I recall. Come to think of it, a lot of the class was spent on talking about how successful female artists were the victims of men. The class was just seething with anger. I used to jokingly (only to myself as I had no friends in the class) refer to as the Pro-Ana department, as all the majors and professors were rail-thin. There was one guy in the class who asked why there was no men's studies department, and the professor snorted, "That's the economics department."

Oh and don't get me started on the black studies department. I don't think these people realize they're given token gifts like these departments where they can tire themselves out whining and that they are actually segregating themselves from the rest of the world.

Swede: xiaodown

Sexist thought. Check.
White male privilege. Check.
Diversity training. Check.
Shocking display of ignorance. Check.
Sauna of a country club. Check.

Wow. Thanks for summarizing for us what is probably the core essence of every Women's Studies program. And you did it so well. I'm going to guess you probably minored in some other grievance studies as well. You know, to be well rounded.

Do they have a white guilt studies focus?
/DNRTT, yes TT

And a quick GIS on "Women's Studies" gives us:

Well at least they've backed off "all sex is rape", well, they haven't actually... Just changed the terminology.

I care just as much about race, gender, or religion as the person I'm currently talking to regarding the subjects. If you don't care then I don't care, if you insist on screaming and throwing any of that in my face then I will respond accordingly by telling you what a damn fool you are.

Want equality? How about this: When people apply for anything, college, jobs, whatever... They are given a number. There is no space on the application for name, gender, race, or any personal information at all... Nothing but accomplishments, education, and qualifications.

The top 20% get interviews.

The author, while a reactionary asshole, does have a legitimate point. In the United States, those burn-the-bra coonts are responsible for the death of male athletics courtesy of Title IX. Men's Gymnastics used to be dominant on the international and Olympic level and courtesy of the complete misinterpretation of a law designed to promote higher education now struggle to competitively compete. And it's not just the guys on the rings that are struggling: Title IX is killing off collegiate men's swimming, wrestling and baseball, and those are just the Olympic sports.

/The penis is evil because you couldn't get one in a bar if you tried biatch!

TFA is one big newspaper troll.

This article would have been much more effective if it cited an example of any of the things it is claiming are happening.

Tell me which course exactly is claiming that all heterosexual sex is an occupation.

I'm not saying that everything that happens in a women's studies course is awesome, but this article sounds like typical reactionary crap. Takes a few extreme rumors of what could happen and spouts them as facts without any backup.

xiaodown: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/beisan-zubi/2010/01/national-post-fails-women-s t udies-homework

This piece, ostensibly spurred by the recent changes of Women Studies departments across Canada to names such as Gender, Social Justice, or Sexuality Studies, has left me completely dumbfounded as how such regressive and hateful speech could possibly be allowed to go to print. The premise of this piece, as one in relation to the name change, is simply an excuse to attempt to legitimize sexist thought.

Not only does the story reek of white, male privilege (arguing among other things, that it is unnecessary for judges to undergo diversity training, equitable hiring practices are unfair, and that universal daycare and mandatory kindergarten (!!!) are somehow detrimental to our societal fabric) but it is a shocking display in ignorance as well. None of the 'signs' of damage to Canada are in any way qualified, and the article seems more like one disgruntled man's recounting of stories he heard in the sauna of a country club than anything resembling fact: "Oh, poor Conrad!" While I am convinced none of the authors have ever attended a Women Studies course, it is impossible for me to know this for sure, as none of the authors (or most likely the single, deluded author) is named.

Satire?

It's a good thing African studies haven't causes similar problems.