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(411 Mania)   RIAA sues four college students for over 96 billion dollars. Students offer to pay off debt in ramen   (411mania.com) divider line 261
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2003-04-13 08:01:52 PM  
What a relief. It was 96 trillion a little while ago.
 
2003-04-13 08:05:53 PM  
I don't support the RIAA in any way, but that was not particularly well written... or rambled... pick a verb. And the 96 billion stuff is about 3/4 of the way down if you're looking.
 
2003-04-13 08:07:05 PM  
This is a repeat from like over a month ago. pretty sad I still remember that.
 
2003-04-13 08:07:20 PM  
Man, this has been posted 96 billion times. It about time it was accepted to the main page. Good headline tho :)
 
2003-04-13 08:39:20 PM  
I liked it better when the reporter couldn't due the math and came up with 96 trillion. It's still quite stupid and the college students should counter sue for intimidation, mental anguish, soft tissue damage from falling out of their chairs and defamation of character.
 
2003-04-13 10:10:47 PM  
How many CD does it take to add up to that? their math is funny.

Oh, and the RIAA called my school last friday, got to the computer lab. The terrified student referred them to the head of the college.

Bright boy.

These guys are a half click removed from the mob, and don't seem particularly concerned that they are ruining peoples' lives to perpetuate a questionable legal standard.
 
2003-04-13 10:34:38 PM  
The lawsuit also claims damages of $150,000 per copyrighted work on the search engines for up to 700,000 files.

Uhm, $150,000 per copyrighted work?!? How in the hell can they justify that they lose $150,000 off of each illegal mp3? I really want to know how these lawyer jerkoffs sleep at night.
 
2003-04-14 12:19:30 AM  
If the RIAA has any sense at all, they'll take the Ramen noodles.
 
2003-04-14 12:44:04 AM  
The RIAA is only suing for SIXTEEN times the current asking price for Universal Music, the largest of the five major record companies and the company that commands almost 25% of the global music market.

Sounds fair to me. :P
 
2003-04-14 02:16:36 AM  
Yep, the RIAA is full of good ideas. I hope I graduate from university so I can have these good ideas too.

They probably picked Boston in their playoff pools too.
 
2003-04-14 02:33:13 AM  
Sue four people and the rest will come falling like a house of cards.
Right, RIAA?
 
2003-04-14 02:34:36 AM  
Why sue for billions when you can sue for . . . millions?



/pinky to corner of mowf
 
2003-04-14 02:34:55 AM  
I know this lawsuit makes me want to go buy some of the high quality CD's they're telling me are "good" today! Britney Spears, Creed, the American Idol people...
 
2003-04-14 02:36:23 AM  
Ramen... it's what's for dinner (for college students).
 
2003-04-14 02:38:45 AM  
Actually, while ramen is cheap, it's fairly low calorie (250-300 calories per pack). If you're really flat broke, cheap peanut butter is a better way to get dirt cheap calories.
 
2003-04-14 02:39:41 AM  
Actually, real ramen is teh r0x0r. The kind that you get at dirty little holes in downtown Tokyo.
 
2003-04-14 02:39:50 AM  
Ramen? Screw that, pay it off in frozen burritos.
 
2003-04-14 02:41:17 AM  
This just in. The secret step 2 has been discovered.
1.Create shiatty music.
2.Sue your customers.
3.Profit!
 
2003-04-14 02:41:23 AM  
ramen n

1. A Japanese dish of noodles in broth, often garnished with small pieces of meat and vegetables.
2. A thin white noodle served in this dish.

i dont get it.

I saw Opeth on friday and i'm still in awe.
 
2003-04-14 02:42:13 AM  
Hrmph! Screw em. They've completely hosed terrestrially broadcast radio. A few years ago in Birmingham, there was this little upstart alternative radio station known as "The Bear". Well, it grew up, and became a top-40 alternative radio station. Screw them, too. I'm listening to radio broadcast on the internet at this moment, and there's all kinds of cool shiznit. I doubt I ever would've ever heard Johnny Cash's "Hurt" if it weren't for Winamp, and that would've been a shame, cuz it's cool as hell.
 
2003-04-14 02:42:30 AM  
$0.14 a package, $96,000,000,000...

$96B / $.14 = 685,714,285,715 packages of ramen noodles

You want paper or plastic?
 
2003-04-14 02:43:00 AM  
"It costs, on average, double to make a cassette than it does a tape, and yet CDs cost double cassettes. Why?"

I am still trying to figure that sentence out.. can anyone help?
 
2003-04-14 02:43:07 AM  
Dreadnaught if you aren't being facetious, ramen is sort of a famous food for poor college students. It's dirt cheap (something like 10 cents a pack) and easy to prepare (throw noodles in boiling water, dump in "seasoning" pack after done, mix).
 
2003-04-14 02:44:04 AM  
Dreadnaught you mean you have never had the pleasure of the 10 cent ramen packet? [image from images.netgrocer.com too old to be available] I could feed myself for a year. If I didn't mind 800% of my daily sodium.
 
2003-04-14 02:44:10 AM  
Sadly this guy was right until he started bashing Pearl Jam . Any farkers going to the Atlanta Show?
 
2003-04-14 02:44:36 AM  
Hey do you all smell that??

It smells like:


[image from news.bbc.co.uk too old to be available]

Send money!

Lars wants a $105,000 toilet seat.
 
2003-04-14 02:45:23 AM  
Young_Fart

That's funny, exact same thing happened in dallas, about 10 years ago we had a little station here called the edge. They played some wicked shiat.

Now they're Clearchannel and proud of it.
 
2003-04-14 02:46:57 AM  
It's nice to see that Fark posted this when it was still relevant
 
2003-04-14 02:47:12 AM  
Young_Fart you're right about Cash. The man is a legend, and he's been doing some great covers lately. I love his version of Rusty Cage.
 
2003-04-14 02:47:14 AM  
Chazcali
I think he meant it costs twice as much to make a tape as it does to make a CD, but a CD costs twice as much to buy...or something.
 
2003-04-14 02:48:43 AM  
We got a nice little notification from our friendly IT department that they'd be forced to cooperate with the RIAA nazis if indeed one of my fellow students was caught with copyrighted material on their hard drive. This sent all the computer geeks into a Class 1A frenzy, with people yanking their computers from their desks and hauling ass to their cars to leave campus. Hell, I woke up to the annoucement from one pasty lil bastard that the SWAT team was down the hall confiscating hard drives. I yawned, scratched my nuts, and went back to sleep. Fark the RIAA, MPAA, and any other fascist media mongering organization.
 
2003-04-14 02:49:35 AM  
For some reason rmen is a comfort foood for me now. I am far removed from college (they threw me out years ago), but every now and then I will get some. Usually at the end of the month when I AM flat broke (getting paid once a month sucks).
 
2003-04-14 02:49:48 AM  
I doubt I ever would've ever heard Johnny Cash's "Hurt" if it weren't for Winamp, and that would've been a shame, cuz it's cool as hell.



yeah not that it's not played all over VH1, Mtv2 and I think I have even came across it on Mtv while flipping. Internet radio is the only thing "keeping it real"
 
2003-04-14 02:50:22 AM  
Young_fart the video for hurt is one of the best videos i've ever seen. Any of you farkers haven't seen it yet you go check out http://www.markromanek.com/video/14.html soon as you read this.
 
2003-04-14 02:55:18 AM  
I'd pay $20 for a CD if it didn't sound like crap.
The music industry hasn't got a farking clue when it comes to signing or supporting talent or creativity. And a better format is needed for people to differentiate the sound quality of an MP3 from an original copy. SACD maybe?
fark the RIAA.
 
2003-04-14 02:55:37 AM  
Oh, speaking of ramen and peanut butter, dried beans are an excellent source of affordable calories, maybe even cheaper than peanut butter on a calorie basis. Plus, easier to control sodium content than those ramen spice packets.

Speaking of internet radio, what are you guys listening to?

Here's some of the ones I got off of Winamp's links that are OK to me:
Mostly Classical http://64.236.34.141:80/stream/1006
GRRL Radio http://205.188.245.133:8068
Newsradio 640 WGST http://shoutcast.streamtoyou.com:9191/
Radio Paradise - eclectic intelligent rock http://152.163.134.164:80/stream/1015

And no wisecracks about the AM.
 
2003-04-14 02:56:13 AM  
Pardon me if I sound a little out of the loop. But what excatly is the "RIAA, MPAA, and any other facist media mongering organization." And whats the whole basis their argument etc.

All I know is that they are copyright guys, who say trading/sharing music is bad.
 
2003-04-14 02:57:00 AM  
Pretty long.

Let's get some newly liberated Iraqis, bring them to the US, tell them that Saddam and the Baath Party and Fedayeen are part of this organisation called the RIAA and let them do their thing, liberation style baby...
 
2003-04-14 02:58:15 AM  
yeah not that it's not played all over VH1, Mtv2 and I think I have even came across it on Mtv while flipping. Internet radio is the only thing "keeping it real"

Well excuse me for being out of the Pop Culture loop. I haven't watched a music video in years. May be related to my non-digital basic cable subscription, as well.
 
2003-04-14 02:59:09 AM  
would just like to add that i am the King of Ramen.

The little packet of sodium is so . . . pedestrian, for my tastes.

To begin the dance, I boil the ramen and arrogantly discard the sodium packet. Whilst the noodles boil in salted water, I often toast pine nuts and sesame seeds in an ungreased pan, and after the noodles are authoritatively yet lovingly cooked al dente , I combine the noodles, seeds and pine nuts.

Splash with olive oil, roll in some chipotle pepper, a tease of oregano and some 4-cheese blend (when the muse strikes, it's crumbled feta) and there, dear reader, is a meal fit for a Motherfarker.
 
2003-04-14 02:59:30 AM  
AgentPothead speaks the truth. Watch it. Now. Cash is kicking all these whippersnappers patooties. You'll never listen to Avril Lavigne again.
 
2003-04-14 03:00:17 AM  
Ya, the RIAA is doing a great job - sue the customers, that's a sure way to get people to support you...

Ah well, 99% of my music is Japanese anyway. And I don't think JASRAC (Japan's version of the RIAA) even knows/cares that North America exists.

N.
 
2003-04-14 03:00:17 AM  
Young_Fart

I remember that station. I thought to myself "Wow, there's hope for B-Ham after all."

Sorry to hear it died. Bust out your aerial pointed east and tune in 99X. That station rocks.
 
2003-04-14 03:00:59 AM  
Cryo hmm. The short answer is the Recording Industry Association of American (RIAA) is basically just a group of all the record/music production companies out there. The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) is basically the same thing for movies.

The RIAA is getting to the point where they're very scared of internet music sharing. They're blaming it for declining sales (or sales not increasing as much as they expect them to), but can't come up with any way to change their marketing scheme. So instead they've been pushing legislation to let them do whatever they want, hack computers, clog up file sharing networks, etc.
 
2003-04-14 03:01:25 AM  
Oh, here's a few hundred recipes for ramen noodles. Cave canem....

http://mattfischer.com/ramen/recipe.html
 
2003-04-14 03:02:20 AM  
Ricky - That doesn't sound too bad actually... Dunno about the pine nuts, but the rest sounds pretty tasty. I'd give it a shot.

N.
 
2003-04-14 03:02:56 AM  
Dyank69

Yeah I figured, but its late and this guys ramblings are hard enough to read when your eyes aren't watering... You know there should be a thread on Fark where its just "Write your own rambling" I think I'll go submit that now.
 
2003-04-14 03:03:27 AM  
Fark 99X. Listen to WREK and bow down in shear bliss. Mmmmm... almost makes me miss Atlanta. That radio station is the best radio station in the freakin' world. Honest to god.
 
2003-04-14 03:03:27 AM  
I was listening to the radio the other day and they said Metallica was coming to town and Limp Bizkit was an opening band.

Now I find that ironic...one of the biggest critics of Metallica opens for them.

Fred Durst is an ahole...but if he wears a Napster shirt or whatever, I will be pleased.

So whoever goes, let me know...I will never give another nickel to Metallica.
 
2003-04-14 03:03:33 AM  
From story: " Then Napster came along, and the file sharing network idea became available to the public. Now, everyone knew about this and music was a giant free for all. Full CDs were available for network downloading, and the Recording Industry panicked. Now, someone who was smart would have looked at this Napster module, bought them out, and then figured out how can we make money off this. Some people would have come up with the fact that this could be a huge boon that, used properly, could actually increase record sales overall. Someone could have realized that millions of eyes would be on this network every day, and millions of ears, too. Some sort of crazy advertising revenue might be possible."

Well, this did happen.. sort of. Napster began operation in June of 1999. By December 1999, Bertelsmann (BMG) and 18 other record companies filed a complaint against Napster for "contibutory and vicarious copyright infringement." Class action ensues, and court grants preliminary injunction to the plaintiffs to try and shut down Napster. Napster appeals, injunction is stayed (put on hold) (this is by July 2000). By September, Napster is almost bankrupt. BMG decides to partner up with Napster to try and make some money off the damn thing. Smart move, right? By January 2001, BMG had "invested" $85 million into Napster through their "Strategic Partnership." Previous injunction is changed in February 2001 and Napster is forced to eliminate copyrighted songs from its service. In July 2001, Napster is ordered to shut down by the Ninth Circuit court of appeals. Immediately following it's shutdown, Bertelsmann "installed a loyal longtime Bertelsmann executive", Konrad Hilbers, as Napster's new CEO.

On May 24, 2002, Napster and Bertelsmann make a deal whereby Bertelsmann will obtain all of Napster's assets on the condition that Napster file for bankruptcy.

June 3, 2002, Napster files for Chapter 11 protection.

Napster Plaintiffs (remember them?) object to the sale on several grounds including that it wasn't negotiated in good faith. No shiat.

Court denies sale.

by December 2002, all of Napster's assets went to someone else.

And by Feb 2003, a complaint is filed against Bertelsmann for fueling the aforementioned "copyright infringement"

So, the moral of this story is, if you're involved in a class action lawsuit against somebody, don't become their partners.

Regards,
Nicculus - Music Industry Major, College of Saint Rose, Albany, NY
 
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