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(Boston Globe)   Residents of Mattapan neighborhood of Boston asked for library to give teenagers something to do. Years and $17 million later they're afraid to go to new library because it's full of teenagers   (boston.com) divider line 82
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2010-01-30 08:59:11 AM
www.boston.com

What Boston teenagers might look like
 
2010-01-30 09:00:06 AM
Does it smell too much like teen spirit?
 
2010-01-30 09:00:26 AM
How dare the public use a public utility!
 
2010-01-30 09:06:03 AM
There have been fights, thefts, and a host of problems inside and outside its doors.
Damn, son, I know you're not telling me Henry David Thoreau is longwinded and pedantic! IT'S ON!
 
2010-01-30 09:06:24 AM
I'd say this is more img1.fark.net than img1.fark.net.
 
2010-01-30 09:06:40 AM
bayimg.com

I see the problem
 
2010-01-30 09:06:55 AM
So, the Mattapan Library was counting on the idea that black kids wouldn't congregate there because their peers would accuse them of "acting white?"
 
2010-01-30 09:09:03 AM
FTA:
There have been fights, thefts, and a host of problems inside and outside its doors.

Teenagers - good
Violent teenagers - bad

A good idea screwed up a small subset of the population.

/this is why we can't have nice things
 
2010-01-30 09:10:12 AM
PonceAlyosha: How dare the public abuse a public utility!

FTFY
 
2010-01-30 09:12:20 AM
FTFA: But they also got an unexpected problem: throngs of 'young people' who have daily overwhelmed the library's staff of eight and created a hot spot for trouble. There have been fights, thefts, and a host of problems inside and outside its doors.



Don't worry, they're liberals - and liberals are problem solvers...
 
2010-01-30 09:14:35 AM
I had no idea Murderpan used to be a Jewish community.
 
2010-01-30 09:16:29 AM
Like anyone who's ever been to Murderpan is surprised by this. Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

Murderpan, and most of the southern half of Boston for that matter, is full of people who got mad when Bill Cosby called them out for being bad parents - not because they're not, but because they got called on it. They're stereotypical, and rather than doing anything about it they just live with it and try to turn everywhere they go into Detroit.

\like i say in all these threads, Chris Rock was right.
 
2010-01-30 09:18:59 AM
It's Murderpan. It's a shiathole and will always be a shiathole.
 
2010-01-30 09:26:27 AM
FriarReb98: Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

I'm not sure if you're from Boston, but you're describing Boston in the 1970s.

Charlestown and North End are nice these days, mostly for yuppies, but they're nice.

The South End is nice.

Teh gays are fleeing high property prices in the South End and moving to Dorchester.

Roslindale and West Roxybury are nice suburban-looking neighborhoods, and aren't too bad. If you like sleeping.

JP has been taken over by hipsters and Mexicans.

Hyde Park is a decent working-class neighborhood.

Yes, all of Roxbury sucks, as does half of Dorchester, and Mattapan has always sucked.
 
2010-01-30 09:27:33 AM
How about we have a Fark party at a bar in Field's Corner?
 
2010-01-30 09:27:37 AM
chamblin: I see the problem

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So do I. Get the free, wide open terminals out of the library, and the problem will be solved.

Being from Boston I can tell you that half of those kids barely know how to read (and that has nothing to do with their skin color).
 
2010-01-30 09:28:33 AM

Residents of Mattapan neighborhood of Boston asked for library to give teenagers something to do.


Yes, because teenagers are well-known for loitering amongst the stacks...

This was probably a semi-clever plan - not completely considered - to create a nice library for the adults while they claimed it was for the children.
 
2010-01-30 09:30:52 AM
WRX_Smokescreen: How about we have a Fark party at a bar in Field's Corner?

I got permanently banninated from The Twelve Bens on Adams St. If they didn't like the fact that my friend had too much to drink and stripped down to his banana hammock, they won't like farkers either.
 
2010-01-30 09:32:56 AM
10 U.S.C. 311: chamblin: I see the problem



So do I. Get the free, wide open terminals out of the library, and the problem will be solved.

Being from Boston I can tell you that half of those kids barely know how to read (and that has nothing to do with their skin color).


A blackplanet.com IM? IE?
/And no it's not only a black site I seen plenty of white folks on there and not all of them are wiggers
 
2010-01-30 09:43:22 AM
Mattapan, please.
 
2010-01-30 09:47:01 AM
"I wouldn't send my kids there,'' said one, Anthony Mosely, who said he witnessed a verbal confrontation between two groups of teenagers in the library. "Kids are going to be kids, but you can't let stuff like that happen in a place like a library.''

Oh no, not a verbal confrontation!!!!1111
 
2010-01-30 09:47:53 AM
FriarReb98: Like anyone who's ever been to Murderpan is surprised by this. Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.


NO its NOT, you jackass. I lived in Upham's Corner, Dudley and for YEARS and was down in Iggles all the time; I know this spot. its ghetto light.

you and the others shiatting your pants over mattypatty are dickless crackers.

i've lived in New Orleans, Brooklyn, Oakland and I've *been* to Detroit. Dorchester in't shiat. look at the crime rate, look at the murder rate; its nothing like a real bad city. there are street cleaners and they pick up the trash EVERY WEEK

20-30 years ago, Dot and the Bury were scary and run down, but Mumbles has done a good old job delivering to his 'people of the community' and those places are playgrounds compared to Detroit.

that library is no more out of control than a high school's front door at 3PM. This is a spook story, a SPOOK story if you get me, to titillate the mommys in Brookline.

Also, that girl? fark yeah. i'd bang her like a screen door in a hurricane. she is DELICIOUS. someone find her myspace for me, i need to know how many kids she's got.
 
2010-01-30 09:59:26 AM
willfullyobscure: you and the others shiatting your pants over mattypatty are dickless crackers.

He also probably thinks Somerville is the worst place in the world. Well, I guess the parts of Somerville overrun with hipsters are.
 
2010-01-30 10:02:49 AM
Indeed. Computers with internet access are the problem, they attract people who don't care about the books or the learnin'. Our library got rid of their computers and all the homeless folks and teenagers skipping school went away.
 
2010-01-30 10:09:43 AM
FriarReb98: . Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

Maybe you should stop talking out of your ass.

moops: He also probably thinks Somerville is the worst place in the world.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!
 
2010-01-30 10:19:39 AM
Mattapan isn't even that bad. It's a lot of working class families just trying to live. That's all. Once in a while some wannabe gangstas shoot each other there. That's it.
 
2010-01-30 10:28:21 AM
Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded.
 
2010-01-30 10:29:25 AM
Seriously, outside of Bromley/Heath and a select few other small areas Boston hasn't been all that dangerous in nearly 20 years. The murder rate is higher in Brockton.

Also, I've lived in the hood my whole life, wtf is "Iggles"?
 
2010-01-30 10:29:30 AM
Best library computer system I ever saw only had the card catalog on it.
No internet, no games, no MS Office.

Librarians loved to tell people the computer was a library tool.

Other than that, I guess they don't teach kids how to behave in a library anymore.

Be quiet, or get out.

Most people can grasp that concept by 3rd grade.
 
2010-01-30 10:33:47 AM
I would also like to say that Allston isn't a total shiathole. It's just full of smelly hipsters.
 
2010-01-30 10:34:21 AM
btr3924: I had no idea Murderpan used to be a Jewish community.

Roxbury was too. Mattapan was until block busting, redlining, violence, "white flight" and the BBURG drove them out to Randolph (now Randapan), Sharon and other suburbs in the 60's and 70's. There was something like 90,000 Jews in Mattapan, Roxbury and Dorchester at one time. Now there's about 3,000.
 
2010-01-30 10:43:11 AM
Is it so hard to require a library card? And if you get "in trouble" you get that card revoked?

Maybe i'm daft here, but it seems very simple to exclude those who have been seen being disruptive.
 
2010-01-30 10:47:04 AM
forgetomori.com
My God it's full of Teenagers!
 
2010-01-30 10:51:40 AM
VoiceofGod: Is it so hard to require a library card? And if you get "in trouble" you get that card revoked?

You're being exclusionary!!
 
2010-01-30 10:57:29 AM
YouSirAreAMaroon:
Also, I've lived in the hood my whole life, wtf is "Iggles"?


Egleston Sq -Washington and Columbus Ave. its JP, not Mattapan, but I used to go down there when ALL of the windows were boarded up and a white boy was guaranteed at least one fight for showing up (if you didn't 'help a brother out'). Now its got coffee shops and shiat
 
2010-01-30 11:04:50 AM
scraping-fetus-off-the-wheel: Be quiet, or get out.

Most people can grasp that concept by 3rd grade.


Racist!
 
2010-01-30 11:06:25 AM
willfullyobscure: YouSirAreAMaroon:
Also, I've lived in the hood my whole life, wtf is "Iggles"?

Egleston Sq -Washington and Columbus Ave. its JP, not Mattapan, but I used to go down there when ALL of the windows were boarded up and a white boy was guaranteed at least one fight for showing up (if you didn't 'help a brother out'). Now its got coffee shops and shiat


I kind of assumed that's what you meant, but never heard that before. I grew up in JP, things in Eggy have been slowly improving since the train came down, but I don't know about coffee shops, maybe on Center St.

When I was a kid it was full-blown war around those parts, the Goyas, Mozart Park, Academy, etc.
 
2010-01-30 11:12:26 AM
FriarReb98: Murderpan, and most of the southern half of Boston for that matter, is full of people who got mad when Bill Cosby called them out for being bad parents - not because they're not, but because they got called on it. They're stereotypical, and rather than doing anything about it they just live with it and try to turn everywhere they go into Detroit.

\like i say in all these threads, Chris Rock was right.


Yeah, you and Chris Rock and Bill Cosby and Dave Chappelle, you're all on exactly the same page, I bet. I'm sure they'd be pleased to endorse your perspective on all things black. Your official license to tell jokes with the n-word in them will be in the mail shortly... signed by Chris Rock himself! It's only fair.
 
2010-01-30 11:15:52 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: VoiceofGod: Is it so hard to require a library card? And if you get "in trouble" you get that card revoked?

You're being exclusionary!!


We exclude felons from owning firearms, voting. Drivers licenses are revoked for habitual DWI's. I don't see this as any different.
 
2010-01-30 11:39:27 AM
semiotix: Your official license to tell jokes with the n-word in them will be in the mail shortly... signed by Chris Rock himself! It's only fair.

My official license stems from "them" calling each other that and behaving accordingly.
 
2010-01-30 11:41:06 AM
YouSirAreAMaroon:

When I was a kid it was full-blown war around those parts, the Goyas, Mozart Park, Academy, etc.


Mozart were always a JOKE. It was headline news if they managed to start a fight, let alone actually hurt someone. BH, on the other hand, I didn't go near by myself, it was... unwise.
 
2010-01-30 12:05:25 PM
yeah dawg all you tuff guyz representin' da struggle here on Fark about all the 'hood' living you've done in Boston. Blue Hill Ave is a terrible place. Murdapan and Dorchester suck, and while it's racist to make a connection between the color of the people's skin there and the crappiness of the community, you can at least blame the thug culture and whatnot.
 
2010-01-30 12:19:01 PM
When I worked in Dorchester, I used to get some really good bbq in Mattapan (I think). M&M near Orchard Park. Is that Mattapan or the Bury?
 
2010-01-30 12:26:03 PM
I didn't know black people lived that far north.
 
2010-01-30 12:32:00 PM
To The Escape Zeppelin!: Indeed. Computers with internet access are the problem, they attract people who don't care about the books or the learnin'. Our library got rid of their computers and all the homeless folks and teenagers skipping school went away.

I think this would be going too far the other way. I know that 99% of potential troublemakers who come through the doors will, in fact, just be troublemakers, but you'll always get that 1% who, for whatever reason, decided that since they're already here, they might as well check out these "book" things that libraries are supposed to be full of. What you could do instead is put the computer section right near the front--not directly in front of the doors so that non-potential-troublemakers have to push through the thick of it to get in and out, but right beside the doors--and then have the peaceful areas further back behind soundproofed walls. You know, designate a noisy half and a quiet half, with the noisy half being more convenient to reach.

Confession time: I haven't been to the library in... oh God, coming up on a year now. I stocked up on novels at their last couple of blowout basement sales, so I haven't been going for the fiction, and I usually prefer online nonfiction because it tends to be more up-to-date. I know it's never as in-depth, but I haven't been doing any research of late, so it just doesn't seem worth the bother of hauling my car-free ass through subzero weather for ten-year-plus out-of-date material. Yeah, it feels weird, but I did spend cashmoney on those blowout novels, so I feel obliged to read them first. Ninety percent of them are crap, but I'm still trying to figure out why Tinker got ditched. The naughty parts alone justify its existence; the attendant romp through the author's bizarre imagination is pure bonus.

Speaking of which, see you guys later. I has a book.
 
2010-01-30 12:37:15 PM
moops: FriarReb98: Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

I'm not sure if you're from Boston, but you're describing Boston in the 1970s.

Charlestown and North End are nice these days, mostly for yuppies, but they're nice.

The South End is nice.

Teh gays are fleeing high property prices in the South End and moving to Dorchester.

Roslindale and West Roxybury are nice suburban-looking neighborhoods, and aren't too bad. If you like sleeping.

JP has been taken over by hipsters and Mexicans.

Hyde Park is a decent working-class neighborhood.

Yes, all of Roxbury sucks, as does half of Dorchester, and Mattapan has always sucked.


Don't forget, Chinatown has still evacuated to Quincy, and Quincy is still Little Asia. See you at Ups & Downs LOL
 
2010-01-30 12:51:31 PM
As a high school English teacher who is constantly trying to get my students to read more, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Some people are impossible to please. You built it, they came, give them a damn book already and quityerbiatchin.
//But yeah, kids should have to behave in the library or lose their privileges.
 
2010-01-30 12:51:35 PM
This is why we can't have nice things.

/"This" is the new n-word now?
 
2010-01-30 12:51:43 PM
scraping-fetus-off-the-wheel: Best library computer system I ever saw only had the card catalog on it.
No internet, no games, no MS Office.

Librarians loved to tell people the computer was a library tool.

Other than that, I guess they don't teach kids how to behave in a library anymore.

Be quiet, or get out.

Most people can grasp that concept by 3rd grade.


All of this, in spades, and doubled.

Librarians thinking they had to be "hip" by letting in all sorts of distractions has farked many libraries. We have one near here that's strictly old school: Be Quiet or Be Elsewhere- there is no shortage (in fact a fatal surplus) of noisy places.

A library is a quiet place for communing with friends who won't stay dead. I wish all those kids in that picture could have that gift. But I fear not.
 
2010-01-30 12:53:52 PM
Helen_Arigby: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Indeed. Computers with internet access are the problem, they attract people who don't care about the books or the learnin'. Our library got rid of their computers and all the homeless folks and teenagers skipping school went away.

I think this would be going too far the other way. I know that 99% of potential troublemakers who come through the doors will, in fact, just be troublemakers, but you'll always get that 1% who, for whatever reason, decided that since they're already here, they might as well check out these "book" things that libraries are supposed to be full of. What you could do instead is put the computer section right near the front--not directly in front of the doors so that non-potential-troublemakers have to push through the thick of it to get in and out, but right beside the doors--and then have the peaceful areas further back behind soundproofed walls. You know, designate a noisy half and a quiet half, with the noisy half being more convenient to reach.


This is more or less what the public libraries in the last two towns I've lived in have done. They've also established policies that bar troublemakers from the library after two warnings for disruptive behavior, stationed police officers at the entrance to keep the banned troublemakers out, and increased foot patrols through the library. Also, internet access is limited to 1 1/2 hours at a time, and you have to sign in at the circulation desk to get a passcode.

It's entirely possible to keep a public library with a large teen clientele from disintegrating into a mosh pit, but you have to have the will to keep the place clean and the funds to hire the personnel to do it. Volunteers can't; they're generally too easily intimidated. If the community can fund a building, they ought to fund the salaries to keep the building up.
 
2010-01-30 01:01:02 PM
Suggestion: built a boys & girls club-type place next door (or refurbish whatever old building I'm sure is nearby) and the really rambunctious kids will go there to play ball/be loud and crazy instead.

/Probably no money available.
//The US stretched too thin, what with buying tanks at a 300% markup and paying for congressmen's viagra prescriptions.
///Hint: it costs a lot less to build a community gym than it does to incarcerate a bunch of young people, but taking care of the community before they get into trouble might make us socialists or something.
 
2010-01-30 01:06:17 PM
The 0-20 crowd isn't nearly as scary as the 20-40 crowd.
 
2010-01-30 01:11:59 PM
booklover555: Suggestion: built a boys & girls club-type place next door (or refurbish whatever old building I'm sure is nearby) and the really rambunctious kids will go there to play ball/be loud and crazy instead.

/Probably no money available.
//The US stretched too thin, what with buying tanks at a 300% markup and paying for congressmen's viagra prescriptions.
///Hint: it costs a lot less to build a community gym than it does to incarcerate a bunch of young people, but taking care of the community before they get into trouble might make us socialists or something.


Your troll-fu is weak.
 
2010-01-30 01:27:33 PM
Gothmolly: booklover555: Suggestion: built a boys & girls club-type place next door (or refurbish whatever old building I'm sure is nearby) and the really rambunctious kids will go there to play ball/be loud and crazy instead.

/Probably no money available.
//The US stretched too thin, what with buying tanks at a 300% markup and paying for congressmen's viagra prescriptions.
///Hint: it costs a lot less to build a community gym than it does to incarcerate a bunch of young people, but taking care of the community before they get into trouble might make us socialists or something.

Your troll-fu is weak.


Hm, do you actually think that was trolling? It seemed pretty reasonable to me. Sure, it's naive to think that "if you build it, they will come"... but they built a library and kids went, so this seems like a community where if you did build a community center filled with cheap, energy-burning, and near-unbreakable games (so basketball, not arcade games) they'd go there, too, and be less destructive.

If the kids had a safe place and safe ways to burn off their energy, it might really help. Again, I would normally think that pretty naive, but these kids are willing to go to a library for it, so the demand is clearly there.
 
2010-01-30 01:33:51 PM
I cannot believe this bullshiat:

"But with three librarians, three assistants, a head librarian, and one custodian, staff members are struggling to do their jobs and keep an eye on every nook and corner of the 21,000-square-foot building"

The building is only 21k sq ft of gross space (Small for a public facility), arranged in a giant open floor plan with sight lines that a maximum-security prison warden would admire.

Check the GIS for the building (I've been getting nailed for hotlinking too much, so no more of that): GIS mattapan library boston (new window) (pops)
 
2010-01-30 01:35:30 PM
Starry Heavens: Gothmolly: booklover555: Suggestion: built a boys & girls club-type place next door (or refurbish whatever old building I'm sure is nearby) and the really rambunctious kids will go there to play ball/be loud and crazy instead.

/Probably no money available.
//The US stretched too thin, what with buying tanks at a 300% markup and paying for congressmen's viagra prescriptions.
///Hint: it costs a lot less to build a community gym than it does to incarcerate a bunch of young people, but taking care of the community before they get into trouble might make us socialists or something.

Your troll-fu is weak.

Hm, do you actually think that was trolling? It seemed pretty reasonable to me. Sure, it's naive to think that "if you build it, they will come"... but they built a library and kids went, so this seems like a community where if you did build a community center filled with cheap, energy-burning, and near-unbreakable games (so basketball, not arcade games) they'd go there, too, and be less destructive.

If the kids had a safe place and safe ways to burn off their energy, it might really help. Again, I would normally think that pretty naive, but these kids are willing to go to a library for it, so the demand is clearly there.


Thanks Starry Heavens, for getting what I thought was obvious snarky commentary on both the sad state of government spending priorities and skewed right-wing name-calling.
 
2010-01-30 01:40:28 PM
I live in JP and ride my bike through Mattapan down blue hill ave to get to Blue hill Reservation in the summer...

It's really not that bad..

I'm a 5'1" white woman and I've never felt threatened. You guys are scaredy cats.. if you actually talk to people who confront you like normal human beings they tend to back off. Just sayin'
 
2010-01-30 01:43:10 PM
The picture says it all.
 
2010-01-30 01:44:16 PM
Give the ghetto a gift and that's what happens. This is why you don't get nice things.
 
2010-01-30 01:47:50 PM
booklover555: Thanks Starry Heavens, for getting what I thought was obvious snarky commentary on both the sad state of government spending priorities and skewed right-wing name-calling.

Yeah, I really dislike this new definition of "trolling." Calling snark a "troll" is the same sort of logic that has us calling streakers "sex offenders." Trolling ought to mean something worse than just a little irreverence.
 
2010-01-30 01:49:26 PM
erupt2001: Give the ghetto a gift and that's what happens. This is why you don't get nice things.

What's happening, a few kids acting bad in the library? Honey, this happens in the 'burbs too. Maybe if you spent more time in libraries, you wouldn't make such prejudiced comments.

ps. You forgot to take your hood off before you signed on today.
 
2010-01-30 01:54:26 PM
Liberals up there are afraid of everything.

/ATHF
 
2010-01-30 02:05:07 PM
"The library is not a vacuum,'' said Maurice Gordon, head librarian of the branch. "Although we are here in the community, we need the community to make the library a safe place.''

Once again, the public sector is desperately pleading for someone... anybody... to help out with a problem that the private sector would have resolved immediately.
 
2010-01-30 02:06:23 PM
You just have to start kicking kids out of the library for being loud. Put some filters on the computers. A library is not a clubhouse for teens. Read a book, do some homework or research on the computers or get out.
 
2010-01-30 02:10:23 PM
Is there any public library in an urban environment that isn't taken over by homeless people and arsehole teenagers? The downtown library in Cincy seems to be THE place for the local "thugs" and homeless people to hang out. People aren't comfortable going to the library if they think there is a possibility to get robbed there.
 
2010-01-30 02:47:27 PM
I used to go to Mattapan in the late 90s to buy beer when I was in high school because the cashiers at the packy (liquor store, for non-natives) were behind 3 inches of plexiglass and sold whatever to whoever as long as you weren't pointing a gun in their face. Last December, I drove along Blue Hill Ave and was shocked at how improved it is. The restaurants were nice, the hair-styling places looked nice, and the streets were clean. It is hard to express how different that was from the place I used to get beer, with broken windows everywhere and people smoking crack in the park at 4 pm.
 
2010-01-30 02:50:53 PM
la_cyberchicana: Helen_Arigby: To The Escape Zeppelin!:
This is more or less what the public libraries in the last two towns I've lived in have done. They've also established policies that bar troublemakers from the library after two warnings for disruptive behavior, stationed police officers at the entrance to keep the banned troublemakers out, and increased foot patrols through the library. Also, internet access is limited to 1 1/2 hours at a time, and you have to sign in at the circulation desk to get a passcode.


90 minutes on the internet means fark, IM, and porn.

How about 15 minutes, and only once a week.

You want to surf the web? Buy a modem. The library isn't Rent-a-Center.
 
2010-01-30 03:04:15 PM
moops: FriarReb98: Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

I'm not sure if you're from Boston, but you're describing Boston in the 1970s.

Charlestown and North End are nice these days, mostly for yuppies, but they're nice.

The South End is nice.

Teh gays are fleeing high property prices in the South End and moving to Dorchester.

Roslindale and West Roxybury are nice suburban-looking neighborhoods, and aren't too bad. If you like sleeping.

JP has been taken over by hipsters and Mexicans.

Hyde Park is a decent working-class neighborhood.

Yes, all of Roxbury sucks, as does half of Dorchester, and Mattapan has always sucked.


QFT. Pretty much the same since the 90's.

I also think Chinatown has been cleaned up since the Big Dig.

/also, Allston-Brighton are technically part of Boston, but they're too far west and collegiate
 
2010-01-30 03:09:25 PM
Oh, for the record, Somerville got gentrified out of sucking, especially Davis Square.

/and no love-hate for Southie?
 
2010-01-30 03:19:08 PM
OtherLittleGuy

moops: FriarReb98: Seriously, if you're not in downtown, the Back Bay or around Kenmore Square, Boston is, in fact, hell on earth.

I'm not sure if you're from Boston, but you're describing Boston in the 1970s.

Charlestown and North End are nice these days, mostly for yuppies, but they're nice.

The South End is nice.

Teh gays are fleeing high property prices in the South End and moving to Dorchester.

Roslindale and West Roxybury are nice suburban-looking neighborhoods, and aren't too bad. If you like sleeping.

JP has been taken over by hipsters and Mexicans.

Hyde Park is a decent working-class neighborhood.

Yes, all of Roxbury sucks, as does half of Dorchester, and Mattapan has always sucked.

QFT. Pretty much the same since the 90's.

I also think Chinatown has been cleaned up since the Big Dig.

/also, Allston-Brighton are technically part of Boston, but they're too far west and collegiate


I've lived in and around the city my entire life and Allston is the only place where someone has pulled a knife on me and it was a God damned jacked up fratboy
 
2010-01-30 03:34:13 PM
OtherLittleGuy: Oh, for the record, Somerville got gentrified out of sucking, especially Davis Square.

Come here, so I can stab you.

/trots off to have the best burger on the planet, in Davis square.
 
2010-01-30 04:35:51 PM
BarackHusseinObama: "The library is not a vacuum,' said Maurice Gordon, head librarian of the branch. "Although we are here in the community, we need the community to make the library a safe place.'

Once again, the public sector is desperately pleading for someone... anybody... to help out with a problem that the private sector would have resolved immediately if there was a potential for a quick buck.


FTFY, Mr. Not-Actually-President.
 
2010-01-30 04:36:56 PM
YouSirAreAMaroon: Seriously, outside of Bromley/Heath and a select few other small areas Boston hasn't been all that dangerous in nearly 20 years. The murder rate is higher in Brockton.



That's likely true. I'm from Brockton and we have had around four murders already this year...
 
2010-01-30 04:41:33 PM
semiotix: FriarReb98: Murderpan, and most of the southern half of Boston for that matter, is full of people who got mad when Bill Cosby called them out for being bad parents - not because they're not, but because they got called on it. They're stereotypical, and rather than doing anything about it they just live with it and try to turn everywhere they go into Detroit.

\like i say in all these threads, Chris Rock was right.

Yeah, you and Chris Rock and Bill Cosby and Dave Chappelle, you're all on exactly the same page, I bet. I'm sure they'd be pleased to endorse your perspective on all things black. Your official license to tell jokes with the n-word in them will be in the mail shortly... signed by Chris Rock himself! It's only fair.


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2010-01-30 06:44:33 PM
Indeed. Computers with internet access are the problem, they attract people who don't care about the books or the learnin'. Our library got rid of their computers and all the homeless folks and teenagers skipping school went away.

Exactly. They didn't create a library, they created exactly what they got. I did IT at a community college on occasion. They built a beautiful new library with free internet access. Within days the problems started.

The fix? The library was only open to everyone, but the computers required a student ID and login. Also, no food and drink. The problem solved itself within weeks.
 
2010-01-30 07:15:43 PM
"Kids are going to be kids, but you can't let stuff like that happen in a place like a library."

Should be:

"Black kids are going to be black kids, but you can't let stuff like that happen in a place like a library."
 
2010-01-30 07:23:52 PM
Nerds!
 
2010-01-30 08:49:08 PM
10 U.S.C. 311: 90 minutes on the internet means fark, IM, and porn.

How about 15 minutes, and only once a week.

You want to surf the web? Buy a modem. The library isn't Rent-a-Center.


OK, harsh. I know some actual useful, learning-related things on the Web that do take longer than 15 minutes. Like actual math or English classes for instance.
 
2010-01-30 08:59:42 PM
chamblin: I see the problem

The Irish?
 
2010-01-30 09:47:17 PM
what_now: /trots off to have the best burger on the planet, in Davis square.

Which joint? I've been pleasantly surprised by Boston Burger Company. So have bunches of other people. I talked to the owner about the lack of seating and he says he never expected the crowds to get so big so quick. They're trying to expand for next summer.
 
2010-01-31 10:30:59 AM
MrShivery is going to Hell: I didn't know black people lived that far north.

you should come to toronto! Ever heard of Caribana?
 
2010-01-31 05:40:55 PM
what_now: OtherLittleGuy: Oh, for the record, Somerville got gentrified out of sucking, especially Davis Square.

Come here, so I can stab you.



Come and try, Sonny boy. I'll knock that stabbing thingy out with my cane, and have enough to kick you in the nuts, then shove my cane up your ass.

/Fannie Farmer, Smoke Shop with Archie and Richie Rich comics, and cafeteria-automat FTW
//Slummerville by birth, Meffa by the Grace of God
///why are you still on my lawn?
 
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