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2003-04-12 08:51:26 AM  
...unless, of course, your name is Jerry Falwell.
 
2003-04-12 10:24:34 AM  
The only kiddie sex allowed at Falwell's university is the kiddie sex in the Bible.

Esther, for example. Good stuff.
 
2003-04-12 11:23:55 AM  
BUSTED!!
 
2003-04-12 11:24:42 AM  
Getting caught ruined his chances at becoming a priest.
 
2003-04-12 11:26:20 AM  
It's dumb to download porn? Ooops...
 
2003-04-12 11:26:59 AM  
Oh, I didn't see the word "kiddie". Ooops again
 
2003-04-12 11:28:13 AM  
HAHAHAHAHAHA... GRAND
 
2003-04-12 11:29:44 AM  
It's the "Burn in Hell" brand firewall!
 
2003-04-12 11:32:01 AM  
This guy should have gotten a hero tag. Jerry Falwell, the voice of reason and enlightenment. I was hoping he was the one downloading so only Pat Robertson and Benny Hinn would be left. Bakker,Swaggart,Roberts=Disgraced.

Ah Dattaway, they don't churn out priest at Liberty University. They churn out asshat televangelists and ignorant republican types there.Either that or Strippers and serial killers. The motto of Ole LU is "closed doors,closed minds."
 
2003-04-12 11:36:09 AM  
It may be dumb, but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of kiddie porn was downloaded at some sort of religious institution. Catholic Priests, anyone?
 
2003-04-12 11:36:35 AM  
"I have SINNED..."
 
2003-04-12 11:41:27 AM  
Ah, man, the wonders of repressive theology on people. I wonder what Jerry Falwell looks at on his computer...
 
2003-04-12 11:41:57 AM  
You know, I look and look, but I can never find all this kiddie porn to download. Seriously, it's way too elusive. All you can get is regular porn that's called kiddie porn. How are you going to get people arrested with that? YOU'RE NOT!.

/Has some people he really doesn't like around here.
 
2003-04-12 11:43:46 AM  
Uh, where does the article say anything about Jerry Falwell? Perhaps the university is associated with or owned by Falwell or something like that and I'm unaware of it, but the article itself doesn't even mention Falwell in any capacity.
 
2003-04-12 11:43:55 AM  
Downloading kiddie porn? I thought religious institutions were the traditional SOURCE of kiddie porn.
 
2003-04-12 11:45:37 AM  
Jerry Falwell makes kiddie porn look good.
 
2003-04-12 11:48:13 AM  
Now if it had been a Catholic university, that'd be the fast track to getting ordained.
 
2003-04-12 11:48:45 AM  
Christ, I know fark is anti-religion buy I had no idea it was this bad. You know you have reached some kinda of warped demension when people in a forum are talk about christians repressing people when those people are downloading CHILD PORN. ITS FARKIN KIDDY PORN. In any other thread you would screaming about how vile and disgusting this is, but never ever ever pass up the chance to bash organized religion, even if it means trying to make looking up child pornography as some kind of damned idealogical right oppressed by the man.
 
2003-04-12 11:49:48 AM  
04-12-03 11:43:46 AM BobTheBuilder
Uh, where does the article say anything about Jerry Falwell? Perhaps the university is associated with or owned by Falwell or something like that and I'm unaware of it, but the article itself doesn't even mention Falwell in any capacity.


See:

http://www.liberty.edu/Chancellor/index.cfm?PID=157
 
2003-04-12 11:52:25 AM  
Thornhill, you mean "Liberty University" didn't used to be called "French University"?
 
2003-04-12 11:52:34 AM  
BobTheBuilder: Liberty was founded by Falwell and he is still chancellor. I guess this was assumed to be common knowledge.
 
2003-04-12 11:52:39 AM  
Davidv - organized religion causes nothing but trouble. What was it that Marx said? Oh yes, opiate for the masses. But then you get drug-crazed fanatics that cause all sorts of problems throughout history.
If either Mohmamad or Jesus could have forseen what people would do with it, both would have kept their mouths shut, and stayed home.
 
lbn
2003-04-12 11:54:08 AM  
04-12-03 11:32:01 AM Dickenscyder This guy should have gotten a hero tag.

"While searching Sullivans computer, the officers found dozens of photos showing men having sex with small girls. Some of the girls were as young as 3."

You have a very, very disturbing definition of "hero."
 
2003-04-12 11:56:12 AM  
Thornhill & Knucklebreather

Ah ok, thanks for the info. I guess you really do learn something new every day.
 
2003-04-12 11:56:38 AM  
even if it means trying to make looking up child pornography as some kind of damned idealogical right oppressed by the man.


Where did you see that in this thread?
 
2003-04-12 11:57:06 AM  
Actually that sounds like more fun!
 
2003-04-12 11:57:10 AM  
Sure kiddy porn should not be. But this guy had his civil rights smashed. First of all, the campus cops only knew that he downloaded porn, not kiddy porn. Then they come into his room with a police officer and confiscate his data. Yes data, that is all it is, so what if a computer translates that data into images. And now they're reccommending he be registered as a sex offender! I don't think downloading kiddy porn makes you a sex offender. The second he touches a kid sure, but looking at pictures is a far cry.
 
2003-04-12 11:58:18 AM  
"Representatives from Fortrex Technologies Inc., which provides computer security for Liberty, detected that someone in Sullivans room was visiting a pornographic Web site, said Chief Deputy Commonwealths Attorney Mike Doucette."

THEY CAN DO THIS? holy shiat, time to switch to magazines

/big brother is watching
 
2003-04-12 12:00:12 PM  
Davidv
Falwellian beliefs are incredibly restrictive. Take a look at the university, it's certainly no Amsterdam. Just because one guy has a thing for young children, it doesn't mean the rest of the religion is fine with that. They're not endorsing downloading kiddie porn, it's most definitely a sin to the adherents of Falwell's sect.

It's not organized religion that's the problem, it's the farking people who run it, that's all.
 
2003-04-12 12:00:51 PM  
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

--Karl Marx

Just for the record, because it gets quoted out of context more often than not.
 
2003-04-12 12:01:52 PM  
Heh...read that too quick, missed the kiddie part.
 
2003-04-12 12:03:43 PM  
Well, if there is anyone who knows about helping to create an oppressed, heartless, soulless society, then it's Karl Marx.
 
2003-04-12 12:05:29 PM  
Holy farking shiat. Can someone please explain kiddie porn? I can see wanting to bone, like, a sixteen year old. Not a good thing to do, but not that much of a stretch age-wise. But 3?! 3 years old!!! What in the fark could make anyone ever want to see or do that?!
 
2003-04-12 12:05:48 PM  
"04-12-03 12:00:12 PM State_College_Arsonist
Falwellian beliefs are incredibly restrictive. Take a look at the university, it's certainly no Amsterdam. Just because one guy has a thing for young children, it doesn't mean the rest of the religion is fine with that"


Great use of the word Amsterdam in a great discussion about child porn and religion. *sigh*
 
2003-04-12 12:06:12 PM  

04-12-03 12:03:43 PM Micah476
Well, if there is anyone who knows about helping to create an oppressed, heartless, soulless society, then it's Karl Marx.


Actually, that'd be Stalin. Soviet "communism" had very little to do with what Marx had in mind.
 
2003-04-12 12:08:34 PM  
St. Alfonzo: I agree...but he got the ball rolling with the Communist Manifesto...hence the phrase "helping to create"...
 
2003-04-12 12:08:40 PM  
04-12-03 12:05:29 PM Antialias
Holy farking shiat. Can someone please explain kiddie porn? I can see wanting to bone, like, a sixteen year old. Not a good thing to do, but not that much of a stretch age-wise. But 3?! 3 years old!!! What in the fark could make anyone ever want to see or do that?!


I'm with you, brother. Teenagers are one thing, but farking 3? That's just amazingly farked up. That guy needs to get his dick cut off with a razor.
 
2003-04-12 12:10:26 PM  

The guy probably had one of these T-shirts:


[image from tshirthell.com too old to be available]

 
2003-04-12 12:11:07 PM  
MisterSpim - I think most of us would thing that would not be quite enough. Make it do it himself, with a rusty butterkife.
 
2003-04-12 12:12:23 PM  
Just for the record, Liberty University isn't even a real college. It's even located at a residential address!

people in a forum are talk about christians repressing people when those people are downloading CHILD PORN

Err... maybe those posts were deleted before I got here, cos I don't see anybody bashing Xians for repressing people viewing child porn
 
2003-04-12 12:13:02 PM  
It's even dumber attending Jerry Falwell's university. Let's face it, this guy was two coupons short of a toaster long before he discovered the Intarweb.
 
2003-04-12 12:14:22 PM  
Ugandarox, do you really want one? WTF is wrong with you?
 
2003-04-12 12:14:30 PM  
How bout castration with a soldering gun?
 
2003-04-12 12:14:50 PM  
Dorf11, I'm sure he was two coupons short of a toaster, getting his ged at 16 and enrolling in a college.

/sarcasm
 
2003-04-12 12:15:21 PM  
Ugandarox, just kidding...if you want one go to tshirthell.com...but seriously, would you really wear that thing?
 
2003-04-12 12:15:39 PM  
Well, if there is anyone who knows about helping to create an oppressed, heartless, soulless society, then it's Karl Marx.

How would he have known, given that he died many years before any country (supposedly) based on his ideas came to be? For all you know, Marx would have disowned his own ideas if he could have seen what the USSR or Red China became.

Your quip reminds me of an exchange in the Daily Texan (UT's student newspaper) years ago. Someone taking offense to an editorial opinion wrote "Why don't you publish your rag in Russian like your hero Karl Marx?" The editorial response merely pointed out that Das Kapital was originally published in German -- but for some reason I thought it was dripping in sarcasm.
 
lbn
2003-04-12 12:16:33 PM  
Genki831
Sure kiddy porn should not be. But this guy had his civil rights smashed.

I think you mean civil liberties here. Civil rights are the rights to personal liberty guaranteed to all U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th Amendments and by acts of Congress. Civil rights ensure equal opportunity to citizens regardless of race, religion, or sex.

Civil liberties refer to the freedoms one has from arbitrary governmental interference and are guaranteed in the United States by the Bill of Rights to the Constitution.

Regardless, Liberty University is a private institution and has a right to monitor the use of its network. Those monitoring the network noticed that it was being used in the commission of a crime and notified the authorities. Based upon this evidence they obtained a warrant to search his room and his computer. Thus, his civil liberties were not violated.

The "it's just 1s and 0s" argument doesn't hold up in court and doesn't hold up to rational individuals as a plead of ignorance. Data stored on a computer is valid evidence. Since possession of child pornography is a crime -- whether or not you produce it -- this guy committed a crime. The fact that he burned it to CD-R shows he intended to archive it and he didn't just accidentally stumble across a verboten website and have the images in his cache.
 
2003-04-12 12:18:25 PM  
Holy farking shiat. Can someone please explain kiddie porn? I can see wanting to bone, like, a sixteen year old. Not a good thing to do, but not that much of a stretch age-wise. But 3?! 3 years old!!! What in the fark could make anyone ever want to see or do that?!

Well, technically, nekkid 16 yr olds would still be considered "child porn"
 
2003-04-12 12:18:56 PM  
04-12-03 12:06:12 PM St.Alfonzo

04-12-03 12:03:43 PM Micah476
Well, if there is anyone who knows about helping to create an oppressed, heartless, soulless society, then it's Karl Marx.

Actually, that'd be Stalin. Soviet "communism" had very little to do with what Marx had in mind.


True. Anyone ever realized that modern-day institutionalized Christianity maybe isn't exactly what Jesus (and Paul) envisioned in the first century A.D.? It has since lost entirely its rebellious, progressive character. That degradation has, IMO, nothing to do with the teaching as it is written in the New Testament. Something to think about, methinks.
 
2003-04-12 12:21:10 PM  
Uh, I don't think priests are too welcome by the Falwell crowd, Dattaway.
 
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