Drakonas: So I'm late to the thread but I knew a girl like this. She was in her 20's had the fake tail and all. As far as furrie they only typically sport the tail. They usually are messed up socially and use it as there escape. Its more like they think they can transform like the homo from twilight at night. Yes there very sexual but very stupid on there decisions. Many Ive seen are strippers as well. I live in California so think of some strange fetish they got it out here, Including the ones that think there Vampires.



/wat

Drakonas: So I'm late to the thread but I knew a girl like this. She was in her 20's had the fake tail and all. As far as furrie they only typically sport the tail. They usually are messed up socially and use it as there escape. Its more like they think they can transform like the homo from twilight at night. Yes there very sexual but very stupid on there decisions. Many Ive seen are strippers as well. I live in California so think of some strange fetish they got it out here, Including the ones that think there Vampires.

Wheeeeeeeeeee

datdamwuf: Oznog: RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

datdamwuf:There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.

It's not that they want to dominate you. Wolves in the wild stay far away from humans. They're the ones likely to claim a closet as their den, only come out when there's food and wait until you leave the room. If you approach their closet they'll cower and may bite.

We are not talking about wolves in the wild, most high % breeders have you take their animals at 3 weeks so they bond to you, they think of you as a packmate and when adult they will try to climb up socially. But you are correct you get a lot of fear biting that if the human was a wolf would not really be a threat.

Also they often cannot be house trained. The socialization and house trainability was the result of domestication by breeding. If you want a pet, you need the domesticated version. Getting the undomesticated version is just a horrible idea. Some people do ok with "hybrids" (if they are indeed hybrids as claimed), but in general it's just a bad idea. If you think you can "rescue" a hybrid, fine, give it a shot, but actively seeking one over a dog and thus encouraging someone to actually breed a litter to fulfill your need is horrific.

agreed, but again, they are not "hybrids", same species.

And yup "wolf hybrid" breeders often exaggerate their % and it leads to a widespread misunderstanding of how problematic actual high % hybrids can be.

Indeed, wolves and dogs aren't supposed to be separate species. All dog breeds are actually breeds of wolf. But, here's the thing: veterinary vaccines for dogs are typically NOT approved for wolves. Ethically they may not be able to use them, and legally it may not count as vaccination.

I am well aware of the BS rules as I spent a lot of time and money trying to get the rabies vaccine approved for wolves, the HSUS blocked it, they have a lot more money and political clout.

Many cities do not allow wild animals to be kept as pets. Wolves are always considered wild animals, and hybrids MIGHT be considered wild. If you get one and find out later you can't keep it, well, that's a huge problem. You might get bused by the law after a complaint, or be scheduled to move to a place where it's not going to be allowed. At that point you've got few options.

Most animal shelters cannot adopt out wolf hybrids. They may have to euthanize them immediately.

Again, the HSUS advises shelters to kill any animal that looks like a pit bull or wolf dog cross, a highly successful progrom.

There are only a few "hybrid rescues" and they're not like a German Shepherd rescue or whatever because they can't adopt them back out, nor can ...

datdamwuf:

Not only is HSUS NOT the Humane Society (That's the ASPCA) it's the more subtle branch of PETA. They take money but do nothing at all to help animals in need.

Wow..the sex would be farking crazy with this one, on a leash? She's wearing a harness? Hmmm...I would hit it..but have her tied up first, and then after i was done, run far far away.

Stanfan114: yeah the mom isn't helping

I didn't think it was possible for someone to need a sammich AND have a muffin top.

/maybe her mom should stop taking all the food
//yeah, I went there

colatf: Drakonas: So I'm late to the thread but I knew a girl like this. She was in her 20's had the fake tail and all. As far as furrie they only typically sport the tail. They usually are messed up socially and use it as there escape. Its more like they think they can transform like the homo from twilight at night. Yes there very sexual but very stupid on there decisions. Many Ive seen are strippers as well. I live in California so think of some strange fetish they got it out here, Including the ones that think there Vampires.

Wheeeeeeeeeee

Just like a dog theyll let anything climb on behind them. On that note I heard she has worms now.

Khazar-Khum wrote:
Not only is HSUS NOT the Humane Society (That's the ASPCA) it's the more subtle branch of PETA. They take money but do nothing at all to help animals in need.

Preaching to the choir, the HSUS bills itself as an animal welfare organization but it's really an animal rights org like PETA. But I would like to differentiate one thing, local Humane Society chapters really do rescue animals so a contribution to them is not so bad, just know that any money you give the HSUS will NOT be used to help animals despite the pathetic starving dog pic they use to suck you in.

MilitaryTigger: Naman: MilitaryTigger: Naman: Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do

True, humans are animals. We are the Apex animal on the planet. Confusion about that fact leads to twisted views like your post.

You think we're the apex animal on the planet. Anyone with a shred of biology education would disagree with you. There are no "apex animals". There are animals better suited for their environments than others, but there is and can be no "apex animal", because what works for one habitat may not work for others. Yes, that even applies to humans. True, we can adapt our environment to suit us, to an extent, but we'll never be as well-adapted to most habitats as the animals native to them.

Also, nice work using Grizzly Man as a strawman. Never thought I'd see that--oh wait, yes I did, because it's a painfully obvious strawman, kinda like how this article is for the anti-furry crowd.

Hmmm.. let's go in reverse order...

Furry-folk are furry-folk. If it makes them happy then who should really care? Consenting adults, private settings, don't give a rat's flying butt, yadda-yadda.

Oooooooh... college debate term... "Strawman": To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Looking back at our posts, it seems I DID directly comment, giving examples, disputing your prime point. The pic of the movie was an add-on, and directly enough provided a focused example of the fallacy of your argument by displaying someone who followed your views and was EATEN for doing so, reinforcing my point... Therefore, NOT a "strawman".

As to your belief that we humans are not Apex predators (also known as alpha, super-, or top-level predators) are predators that have virtually no predators of their own, residing at the top of their food chain, I rather disagree with you. As tool using humans, we are able to kill and eat every other animal on the planet, and some humans certainly have tried to fullfill that goal (Shout-out to Theodore Anthony "Ted" Nugent). We have no natural predators other than other humans and sometimes our own stupidity of placing ourselves on equal or lesser terms to large carnivores.

The human brain allows us to develop and use tools to become faster, stronger, and more deadly than any other critter on the globe.

/Tools: They make ANYTHING what's for dinner.

You did not say apex predator, you said apex animal. Had you said apex predator, I would not have argued that point with you. There's rather a tremendous difference between apex predator and apex animal.

MilitaryTigger:

Looking back at our posts, it seems I DID directly comment, giving examples, disputing your prime point. The pic of the movie was an add-on, and directly enough provided a focused example of the fallacy of your argument by displaying someone who followed your views and was EATEN for doing so, reinforcing my point... Therefore, NOT a "strawman".

Excuse me? I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected. You pulled an example of someone with vaguely similar basic views doing something stupid and tried to use it to support your position. That's a textbook example of a straw man there, chief.

Yakk: I got $10 this is to blame



Oh yeah? Well I got a plate of fresh baked cookies that says it was this.

Naman: I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected

Don't worry, you can't get them pregnant.

-1 for whoever greenlit this - quit wasting my wasted time! Reading about some stupid teen and their stupid problems... *grumbles*

emo, goth, vampire, steampunk, pagan... it's all very confusing.

beve: Naman: I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected

Don't worry, you can't get them pregnant.

I can't? But I was planning on making an army of hybrid man-sloths to take over the world! DAMN YOU, GENETICS!!!

Naman: beve: Naman: I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected

Don't worry, you can't get them pregnant.

I can't? But I was planning on making an army of hybrid man-sloths to take over the world! DAMN YOU, GENETICS!!!

What, like New Zealanders?

/ba-doom tshhhh

Euthanize her and her 'wolf pack', and her mother. Sick farks.

colatf: Naman: beve: Naman: I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected

Don't worry, you can't get them pregnant.

I can't? But I was planning on making an army of hybrid man-sloths to take over the world! DAMN YOU, GENETICS!!!

What, like New Zealanders?

/ba-doom tshhhh

Sloths, not sheep!

/approves

This link from KENS5 news in SA has a video interview with Wolfie.

Link (new window)

Naman: colatf: Naman: beve: Naman: I never so much as implied that I would do something stupid like interacting with extremely dangerous animals unprotected

Don't worry, you can't get them pregnant.

I can't? But I was planning on making an army of hybrid man-sloths to take over the world! DAMN YOU, GENETICS!!!

What, like New Zealanders?

/ba-doom tshhhh

Sloths, not sheep!

Sorry. When you've been alone as long as I have, everything starts to look like sheep.

Cope_Freeland: They found nude pics of the sheriff's underage daughter (14y.o.)that she sent to Wolfie. Wolfie is 18. They apparently have some kind of thing going on. The story just keeps getting worse.

Worse, eh? I dunno about that.

VermMoney: This link from KENS5 news in SA has a video interview with Wolfie.

Link (new window)

Great video find!

Also this thread is hilarious. It's

30 percent arguing over what a furry is
10 percent saying she looks like a man
15 percent rage at the treatment of animals
5 percent arguing about the treatment of people vs the treatment of animals
10 percent talk about what is and isn't a "wolf/dog hybrid"
5 percent about how they would have animal sex with her
25 percent coverage from /b/

perfect thread!

Jument: Cope_Freeland: They found nude pics of the sheriff's underage daughter (14y.o.)that she sent to Wolfie. Wolfie is 18. They apparently have some kind of thing going on. The story just keeps getting worse.

Worse, eh? I dunno about that.

well Gorgor hasn't posted any links yet.

Epiphany:
Also this thread is hilarious. It's

30 percent arguing over what a furry is
10 percent saying she looks like a man
15 percent rage at the treatment of animals
5 percent arguing about the treatment of people vs the treatment of animals
10 percent talk about what is and isn't a "wolf/dog hybrid"
5 percent about how they would have animal sex with her
25 percent coverage from /b/

perfect thread!

And where do you fall on the list?

I stupidly clicked on the facebook link - OMFG! I can't imagine if that had been one of my fur babies... and it's not, but I am disturbed beyond belief.

This girl needs massive psychiatric treatment before she goes on a mass murder killing spree - all the signs are clearly there.

Tran Forsythe: dogmama: I stupidly clicked on the facebook link - OMFG! I can't imagine if that had been one of my fur babies... and it's not, but I am disturbed beyond belief.

This girl needs massive psychiatric treatment before she goes on a mass murder killing spree - all the signs are clearly there.

You need massive injections of the reality that not everyone was raised in antiseptic conditions or thinks meat magically comes from the grocery store. Everything dies, and everyone has a different way of honoring the dead. Yes, some people have sent Gramps off to the taxidermist to do just that.

Seriously though, there's no serious difference between this girl's amateurish taxidermy hobby and the cat lady down the street that gets her tabbies stuffed and mounted by a professional taxidermist.

/yes, okay, I said "stuffed and mounted" - knock yourselves out
//GD Beavis and Buttheads....

I don't think it'e the taxidermy (which is creepy but interesting)that people object to, but the fact that she (most likely) stole and murdered this dog as part of some sicko, I'm-a-freak-who-thinks-I'm-a-wolf crazy nonsense. She clearly has some serious mental problems, and is both spoiled by her biatch mother who feeds her delusion, AND a dog thief and killer. She's got "serial killer" written all over her.

I doubt most taxidermists dress up as animals, wear dog collars so they can be "owned" by someone, keep nude pics of a 14 year old girl on their hard drive, or STEAL PEOPLE'S PETS AND KILL them. THAT'S why people hate this freak, not the taxidermy (if that's even true, sounds like she's just keeping the body parts) stuff.

dogmama: I stupidly clicked on the facebook link - OMFG! I can't imagine if that had been one of my fur babies... and it's not, but I am disturbed beyond belief.


"fur babies"?

Lady, that's a teratoma, not a child!

Cope_Freeland: I've been following this story on /an/ and in the irc for the past few days. Her story of how she got the dog keeps changing. Anon has already taken control of her myspace and gotten access to her email. They found nude pics of the sheriff's underage daughter (14y.o.)that she sent to Wolfie. Wolfie is 18. They apparently have some kind of thing going on. The story just keeps getting worse.

Well, here's a video Wolfie is shooting of another girl of indeterminate age being kinda "naughty" (bordering on NSFW)

MilitaryTigger: Wolf chick's loonacy aside, your comment:

ChrisSuperstar: Being terrible to people is bad enough, but doing it to animals is even worse

Causes sane people to look at you as being off-kilter as well... So, to clarify how whacka-doo you are, here's a situation for you...

Human child is playing in the road with a puppy. Car is approaching at high speed, threatening certain death. You can rescue one of the two... Do you save the human child or the puppy?


Umm...The car?

/I'm right, aren't I?
//No wait, it's 42 isn't it? I KNEW IT!

You know who also liked to fark around with roadkill? Jeffery Dahmer. That's who.

She... look-a like a man

Oznog: She... look-a like a man

hahahaha

well i do understand that yes she is probably really farked up but here is something that not many people think of. werewolves technical do exist as well as vampires, in christian standpoints they are called demons. beings that we cant explain or prove. the bible states it, the torah, and koran state it. so why is it wrong to think they exist. when we have written proof, legends, myths, and many other things. to state they dont exist is like saying there is no such thing as demons and angels, for that matter heaven or hell. yes she does need to be locked up but i kinda have to give respect to her for wht she believes. ill confess im not a werewolf but i do have primal instincts that make it seem im a dog or werewolf, i growl when im angry or upset, i snarl when im defensive, but i do have a life im an electrician. i used to be a miner. im 24, and my friends gave me my current nickname called Whitewolf. but do i state im a wolf or dog or werewolf........NO! i dont claim that and many of my friends i wont say are my pack, lol. i hope this does shed light on some things i may even condemn myself you all have a right to your opinion. thank you for reading this comment

ChrisSuperstar:
Oh, how careless of me! I guess I wasted my time on useless stuff like school, instead of learning about the differences between the two different groups of loonies who dress up like slutty, four-breasted skunks and bang each other in the woods.

No matter how you look at it, it's all about getting horny over dressing up like cartoon animals. No thanks.

Except that you just missed the point. Short version: a very small percentage of furries dress up because it's EXPENSIVE. As far as I know, otherkin don't generally dress up at all. And beyond that, furries know this isn't real. Otherkin think it is.

And as for your "dress up like slutty, four breasted skunks", THIS is a real fursuit. A small percentage of furrys fursuit because of cost, and a very small amount of fursuiters would dream of having sex in them.



I don't know how much this suit cost and I don't want to know. No cartoony skunks here.

/learn about something before spouting off on it, you asshole

Ringshadow: ChrisSuperstar:
Oh, how careless of me! I guess I wasted my time on useless stuff like school, instead of learning about the differences between the two different groups of loonies who dress up like slutty, four-breasted skunks and bang each other in the woods.

No matter how you look at it, it's all about getting horny over dressing up like cartoon animals. No thanks.

Except that you just missed the point. Short version: a very small percentage of furries dress up because it's EXPENSIVE. As far as I know, otherkin don't generally dress up at all. And beyond that, furries know this isn't real. Otherkin think it is.

And as for your "dress up like slutty, four breasted skunks", THIS is a real fursuit. A small percentage of furrys fursuit because of cost, and a very small amount of fursuiters would dream of having sex in them.



I don't know how much this suit cost and I don't want to know. No cartoony skunks here.

/learn about something before spouting off on it, you asshole

LMAO, how much does this cost?

Epiphany:
LMAO, how much does this cost?

Yeah, fursuit quality will vary depending who's making the suit, and some people like a cartoony look.

My points stand, though.

/really? The silly tiger aside...
//...those still probably cost hundreds of dollars

Epiphany: Ringshadow: ChrisSuperstar:
Oh, how careless of me! I guess I wasted my time on useless stuff like school, instead of learning about the differences between the two different groups of loonies who dress up like slutty, four-breasted skunks and bang each other in the woods.

No matter how you look at it, it's all about getting horny over dressing up like cartoon animals. No thanks.

Except that you just missed the point. Short version: a very small percentage of furries dress up because it's EXPENSIVE. As far as I know, otherkin don't generally dress up at all. And beyond that, furries know this isn't real. Otherkin think it is.

And as for your "dress up like slutty, four breasted skunks", THIS is a real fursuit. A small percentage of furrys fursuit because of cost, and a very small amount of fursuiters would dream of having sex in them.



I don't know how much this suit cost and I don't want to know. No cartoony skunks here.

/learn about something before spouting off on it, you asshole

LMAO, how much does this cost?

It seems like it'd cost more to clean them than to buy them in the first place.

colatf:

It seems like it'd cost more to clean them than to buy them in the first place.

Which is why most people don't have sex in them. A lot of the expensive suits are custom painted and whatnot so I'm not sure they even qualify as "dry clean only".

/met a fursuiter once who was very depressed about her broken off suit claws
//"Damn bowling balls."

wmoonfox: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

wmoonfox:Almost certainly, but I doubt they could successfully breed, so that's irrelevant, really.





Edward... why does it hurt? Why does it hurt?

Oznog: wmoonfox: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

wmoonfox:Almost certainly, but I doubt they could successfully breed, so that's irrelevant, really.

Edward... why does it hurt? Why does it hurt?

Man, that was a disturbing scene.

Lollipop165: Does anyone else notice that these "wolf/dog" hybdrids she's supposedly breeding look exactly like huskies?

Even then, if you truly respected wolves, you wouldn't be raising wolf-dogs out of respect for them. It's not good to have an animal that still retains the aggressiveness of a wolf without it's fear of humans.

All these posts and not one funny dog pic?



// Funny same-looking dog pics on following posts in case the Meth-orators decide to get all delete happy.