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2010-01-27 05:15:13 PM
Ego edo infantia cattus: ...riiiiiiiight. I have a priapism from a plane crash

Mini Ditka:I got a priapism from a pudding cup.

/am I doing this right?


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Take my pen knife, my good man!
 
2010-01-27 05:15:17 PM
cowgirl toffee: gorgor: cowgirl toffee: gorgor: Doggy Style.
In the pooper.

Still in the mood for that? :P

Well I wouldn't have to wipe my dick on the curtains, I could use her floor mat.

Well, there is that.

I just wonder if she gets all hot and sweaty, does she smell like a wet dog? Maybe you could hand an air freshener from her collar. Oh, and what if she's in heat. You don't want THAT on your carpet. It would seem that a relationship with her would be high maintenance.


Seems that most of those problems are very solvable with modern technologies such as febreeze and keeping her in the garage.
 
2010-01-27 05:15:23 PM
AllShelleyAllTheTime: My friend is a vet and just got a dead monkey yesterday. She's planning on putting it in with some dung beetles and rebuild the skeleton.

She's weird but she really is a veterinarian...so at least there's that.

This girl sounds headed for a nut hut or prison..or welfare.


eh, from looking at the pics and the descriptions, hopefully she winds up with a better master then she was
 
2010-01-27 05:20:10 PM
VermMoney: Here is Rigsby (Shadow) while still alive and happy.

That looks nothing like the dog described in the article.
 
2010-01-27 05:24:06 PM
yeah the mom isn't helping

img694.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-27 05:26:25 PM
Stanfan114: yeah the mom isn't helping

is her mom 23?
 
2010-01-27 05:26:38 PM
Khazar-Khum: Here is Rigsby (Shadow) while still alive and happy.

Yeah but it is the same dog Wolfie is holding up in her facebook page.. the head anyway

http://www.myspace.com/wolfieblackheart
 
2010-01-27 05:27:26 PM
Subby, the whole "then it get's weird" thing kinda annoys me because usually it just more-of-the-same-weird. However, you really did hit the jackpot there. Well done!
 
2010-01-27 05:29:56 PM
Is there any evidence that she and her friends murdered this dog?

VermMoney: I don't understand why the news and the police are so quick to believe her story that it was hit by a car. Just look at the pic of the dog's head. There are no scratches or anything on it. wtf

Did you learn that from your Fisher Price CSI Kit?
 
2010-01-27 05:30:53 PM
Khazar-Khum: VermMoney: Here is Rigsby (Shadow) while still alive and happy.

That looks nothing like the dog described in the article.


Not sure if serious... but here's a picture comparing the the dog's head and Rigsby (Shadow)

Link (new window) NSFW - shows the original dog's head photo
 
2010-01-27 05:32:06 PM
mortimer_ford: Is there any evidence that she and her friends murdered this dog?

VermMoney: I don't understand why the news and the police are so quick to believe her story that it was hit by a car. Just look at the pic of the dog's head. There are no scratches or anything on it. wtf

Did you learn that from your Fisher Price CSI Kit?


No. I just used my common sense. You should try to use it sometime instead of being snarky on the internet.
 
2010-01-27 05:33:52 PM
Khazar-Khum: There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Plus they're illegal in many places, and require special permits.


Agreed... That pup in the pics with her is as much "Wolf" as her PoS blades are combat quality.

Real Wolf-dogs: (Notice the size, height and facial shape)
{FYI, real wolf mixes cost $750-$3500 depending on pedigree; hard for someone living in a single-wide without sheets for their matress on the floor to afford}

www.inetdesign.com

www.wolfzone1.com
 
2010-01-27 05:35:54 PM
8.5 tailed fox: They only ride the domestic unicorms not the wild ones, also virgins are usually to heavy to ride a unicorm, lol.

Nuh-uhn, they catch the wild unicorns with moonbeams! And purity of heart!

Oznog: Gonna get into a catfight with her for stealing her act.

Hopefully will culminate in some sort of grand Internet creep-off competition.

palelizard: What fresh hell is that?


What, "Creepy Chan"? (aka "Tussin Chan")?

www.wired.com

Born of 4Chan.
 
2010-01-27 05:36:12 PM
RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.


There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.
 
2010-01-27 05:37:11 PM
MilitaryTigger: Wolf chick's loonacy aside, your comment:

ChrisSuperstar: Being terrible to people is bad enough, but doing it to animals is even worse

Causes sane people to look at you as being off-kilter as well... So, to clarify how whacka-doo you are, here's a situation for you...

Human child is playing in the road with a puppy. Car is approaching at high speed, threatening certain death. You can rescue one of the two... Do you save the human child or the puppy?

/Hint: Humans are more important than animals.
//Animal cruelty is abhorent evil incarnate, but that doesn't excuse the mindset that it is worse than violence against humans


Anthropocentrism will be the death of our species some day. Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do, unless you're too full of yourself to think beyond terms of benefiting you and those you care about on a short term basis.
 
2010-01-27 05:37:47 PM
Sticky Hands: cowgirl toffee: gorgor: cowgirl toffee: gorgor:...

I just wonder if she gets all hot and sweaty, does she smell like a wet dog? Maybe you could hand an air freshener from her collar. Oh, and what if she's in heat. You don't want THAT on your carpet. It would seem that a relationship with her would be high maintenance.

Seems that most of those problems are very solvable with modern technologies such as febreeze and keeping her in the garage.


They do make wearable biatch pads for when the dog is in heat.

webpages.charter.net

And just look at that shiny coat!
 
2010-01-27 05:41:50 PM
VermMoney: Khazar-Khum: VermMoney: Here is Rigsby (Shadow) while still alive and happy.

That looks nothing like the dog described in the article.

Not sure if serious... but here's a picture comparing the the dog's head and Rigsby (Shadow)

Link (new window) NSFW - shows the original dog's head photo


OK...that's probably the same dog. For some reason I thought the article said Rigsby was black.

For the people who said it can't be a roadkill dog, sure it can. The body was hit, not the head.
 
2010-01-27 05:43:50 PM
HeartBurnKid: TO ALL FURRIES: This is why the rest of us think you're creepy

Batshiat crazy thinks-they're-an-animal, does not a furry make...
 
2010-01-27 05:43:54 PM
datdamwuf: RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.


This is exactly what happened with my friend's wolfdog. It grew up. It looked very much like the bottom pic in MilitaryTigger's post.
 
2010-01-27 05:44:18 PM
Stanfan114: yeah the mom isn't helping

Okay, the story is pretty farked up, but she could do a great cosplay of the witch chick from Dragon Age.

/Would still coont-punt this chick if she killed someone's dog
 
2010-01-27 05:44:30 PM
Ringshadow: So she's an otherkin.

*snert*

...and which DSM entry does THAT fall under?

/kudos to you for saying "otherkin" with a straight face.
 
2010-01-27 05:44:49 PM
blog.internetnews.com

I think this is appropriate.

But seriously she is disturbed. Beheading animals and keeping the head? She's a farking psycho. I'm not even sure how in the hell someone develops that mentality.

It's like she's a goth-emo-furry-biatch.

/keep her awaaaaay from me.
 
2010-01-27 05:45:53 PM
MilitaryTigger: Khazar-Khum: There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Plus they're illegal in many places, and require special permits.

Agreed... That pup in the pics with her is as much "Wolf" as her PoS blades are combat quality.

Real Wolf-dogs: (Notice the size, height and facial shape)
{FYI, real wolf mixes cost $750-$3500 depending on pedigree; hard for someone living in a single-wide without sheets for their matress on the floor to afford}


What you see there is another reason F1s and F2s (first/second generation) can be so dangerous when they become adults. Crossing a wolf and dog produces a larger animal. Wolves are generally smaller, when you cross them with a husky or similar you end up with an animal that is 90 to 130 lbs and quite tall, I've seen some at 33 inches at the shoulder. There are responsible breeders that place these guys appropriately but there are way more that breed high % wolf dogs and don't care who takes them so long as they get their money. These crosses are not your normal house dog, they will challenge their owners when they grow up...
 
2010-01-27 05:46:28 PM
Uglybarnacle: I think this is appropriate.

But seriously she is disturbed. Beheading animals and keeping the head? She's a farking psycho. I'm not even sure how in the hell someone develops that mentality.

It's like she's a goth-emo-furry-biatch.

/keep her awaaaaay from me.


you've never been to a hunters house have you?
 
2010-01-27 05:51:38 PM
datdamwuf:

There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.

I think you've got me mixed up with someone else, but in any event I'm on your side.

People cling to the Wolf Mystique, believing that somehow they can connect with these magical mystery wonder creatures, that they are kindred spirits.

Instead they end up with at best a dog crossbreed or at worst the real thing. And the animal suffers for it. The various wolf sanctuaries will not take an unwanted, dangerous wolfdog. Animal shelters destroy them immediately.

Somewhere, some other wolf fanatic gets a puppy 'wolf hybrid' and the cycle begins anew.
 
2010-01-27 05:54:39 PM
Khazar-Khum: VermMoney: Khazar-Khum: VermMoney: Here is Rigsby (Shadow) while still alive and happy.

That looks nothing like the dog described in the article.

Not sure if serious... but here's a picture comparing the the dog's head and Rigsby (Shadow)

Link (new window) NSFW - shows the original dog's head photo

OK...that's probably the same dog. For some reason I thought the article said Rigsby was black.

For the people who said it can't be a roadkill dog, sure it can. The body was hit, not the head.


But her story kept changing. First she said that they found the dog dead in the street. Then she said that it was hit and it's back legs were mangled so she decided to euthanize him. Then she said that he was hit and died on the spot. It was hit by a truck. No it was hit by a car.

Well what the fark is it? She's told so many different stories.

Also the dog was taken from the yard of his owner. This wasn't a stray.
 
2010-01-27 05:56:52 PM
Uglybarnacle: But seriously she is disturbed. Beheading animals and keeping the head? She's a farking psycho. I'm not even sure how in the hell someone develops that mentality.

It develops when mommy rolls with anything her kid says, instead of drawing limits. Here'd be my approach:

"Fine. You're a wolf. I've stocked up on Alpo and that's all you'll be eating from now on out. Y'know, because you're a canine, right? Hand me the cell phone, too. Wolves don't text people. Makeup?!? There's not a wolf alive that wears makeup. Fork over the makeup... oh, and you'll be pissing outside in that tent over by the tree. Enjoy!"

Let's see how long Ms. I'm-a-wolf lasts eating Alpo.
 
2010-01-27 05:57:32 PM
datdamwuf: RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.


Could you not have left it at "wolf hybrids are a misnomer and most people couldn't tell the difference between a wolf and a husky if the dog slapped them in the face with genetic testing papers that say 'husly' in big bold letters"? That would be less informative and more amusing.
 
2010-01-27 05:58:11 PM
8.5 tailed fox: This woman is wrong because wolfs do not cut off heads, that is something only werewolfs do and werewolfs don't exist any more, they all were made extinct by superstitious people who believed that werewolfs would eat all the unicorms. (But this is a common misconception, it is impossible for a werewolf to eat a unicorm because unicorms are not only fast, but their bodies are poisonous like those south american frogs. Luckily only wild unicorms are poisonous and domestic ones are safe unless they eat onions which is how they make their body poison.)

Tastes like chicken.
 
2010-01-27 06:00:09 PM
I'll bet she's into this:

May be NSFW (disturbing) (new window)
 
2010-01-27 06:00:44 PM
Killing a tamed house pet really is much more heinous than killing a human being. Think of the undying affection your pet has for you and all the shiat you could do to it and it still loves you and it will still come back for more. That's partly why people get off on torturing animals, they'll keep coming back. Pets don't understand why you hurt them and, in many cases, will not defend itself, but they will always forgive you.

A human being can and will fight back. Unless, you know, Stockholm syndrome.

This sick little shiat needs to be put down. fark, I need to stop coming to Fark, its no better than 4chan.
 
2010-01-27 06:02:31 PM
GENETICBAGGAGE: We are Anonymous, we do not fogive, we do not forget!

We do not spellcheck.
 
2010-01-27 06:04:36 PM
LOL
 
2010-01-27 06:05:16 PM
thinbuddha: I'll bet she's into this:

May be NSFW (disturbing) (new window)


ah, like in the second xfiles movie
 
2010-01-27 06:06:06 PM
Naman: Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do

True, humans are animals. We are the Apex animal on the planet. Confusion about that fact leads to twisted views like your post. With rare exceptions (WrestlerManager 's point being correct), there is not a normal case where a human's life is less valuable than a lesser animal.

The mere fact that human-kind concerns itself with the wellbeing of other, lesser animals dispells your point entirely. There is not a carnivorous/omnivorous animal on the planet (other than MOST humans) that will look at you as anything other than threat/prey/dinner, with their station in the food chain setting the percentages of those three. Humans, on the other hand, often care for other creatures, simply for them being themselves.

Some people take that too far though. They are often the ones that end up getting eaten by the creatures they thought were their "equals".

www.utoronto.ca
 
2010-01-27 06:06:15 PM
RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

datdamwuf:There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.


It's not that they want to dominate you. Wolves in the wild stay far away from humans. They're the ones likely to claim a closet as their den, only come out when there's food and wait until you leave the room. If you approach their closet they'll cower and may bite.

Also they often cannot be house trained. The socialization and house trainability was the result of domestication by breeding. If you want a pet, you need the domesticated version. Getting the undomesticated version is just a horrible idea. Some people do ok with "hybrids" (if they are indeed hybrids as claimed), but in general it's just a bad idea. If you think you can "rescue" a hybrid, fine, give it a shot, but actively seeking one over a dog and thus encouraging someone to actually breed a litter to fulfill your need is horrific.

And yup "wolf hybrid" breeders often exaggerate their % and it leads to a widespread misunderstanding of how problematic actual high % hybrids can be.

Indeed, wolves and dogs aren't supposed to be separate species. All dog breeds are actually breeds of wolf. But, here's the thing: veterinary vaccines for dogs are typically NOT approved for wolves. Ethically they may not be able to use them, and legally it may not count as vaccination.

Many cities do not allow wild animals to be kept as pets. Wolves are always considered wild animals, and hybrids MIGHT be considered wild. If you get one and find out later you can't keep it, well, that's a huge problem. You might get bused by the law after a complaint, or be scheduled to move to a place where it's not going to be allowed. At that point you've got few options.

Most animal shelters cannot adopt out wolf hybrids. They may have to euthanize them immediately.

There are only a few "hybrid rescues" and they're not like a German Shepherd rescue or whatever because they can't adopt them back out, nor can they rehabilitate them and "release them back into the wild". In fact they really can't do much but warehouse them in pens for the rest of their lives. And they're usually pretty full. That's the awful truth. There's no place for them in the world if they can't stay with humans and can't be in the wild.
 
2010-01-27 06:08:20 PM
uncletogie: Uglybarnacle: But seriously she is disturbed. Beheading animals and keeping the head? She's a farking psycho. I'm not even sure how in the hell someone develops that mentality.

It develops when mommy rolls with anything her kid says, instead of drawing limits. Here'd be my approach:

"Fine. You're a wolf. I've stocked up on Alpo and that's all you'll be eating from now on out. Y'know, because you're a canine, right? Hand me the cell phone, too. Wolves don't text people. Makeup?!? There's not a wolf alive that wears makeup. Fork over the makeup... oh, and you'll be pissing outside in that tent over by the tree. Enjoy!"

Let's see how long Ms. I'm-a-wolf lasts eating Alpo.


If she truly believed she was a wolf, there'd be no reason to act in a different way, because whatever she did would then be what a wolf might do.

/but she's still nuts
//lunacy?
 
2010-01-27 06:10:58 PM
RobinTheHood: This is exactly what happened with my friend's wolfdog. It grew up. It looked very much like the bottom pic in MilitaryTigger's post.

Dog in that pic was only 10 months old at the time of the pic...
 
2010-01-27 06:17:32 PM
MilitaryTigger: Naman: Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do

True, humans are animals. We are the Apex animal on the planet. Confusion about that fact leads to twisted views like your post.


You think we're the apex animal on the planet. Anyone with a shred of biology education would disagree with you. There are no "apex animals". There are animals better suited for their environments than others, but there is and can be no "apex animal", because what works for one habitat may not work for others. Yes, that even applies to humans. True, we can adapt our environment to suit us, to an extent, but we'll never be as well-adapted to most habitats as the animals native to them.

Also, nice work using Grizzly Man as a strawman. Never thought I'd see that--oh wait, yes I did, because it's a painfully obvious strawman, kinda like how this article is for the anti-furry crowd.
 
2010-01-27 06:18:01 PM
elev8meL8r: "When answering nature's call, Wolfie prefers the backyard."


Ummm, doesn't everyone? Or is that just me?
 
2010-01-27 06:24:16 PM
Cthulhu Theory: datdamwuf: RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.

Could you not have left it at "wolf hybrids are a misnomer and most people couldn't tell the difference between a wolf and a husky if the dog slapped them in the face with genetic testing papers that say 'husly' in big bold letters"? That would be less informative and more amusing.


more amusing yes, but there is no DNA test at present that you could slap em in the face with, like with pit bulls, the animal shelters eyeball them and put em down based on their looks because the HSUS tells em to, that's sad too. sigh
 
2010-01-27 06:27:12 PM
I wish biatches like this would just shut the fark up.
You're different, wow, cool, shut the fark up now you have nothing valuable to add to society. Thinking you're a wolf isn't cool or edgy, it's a clear psychological farkup.
 
2010-01-27 06:28:04 PM
The judge just agreed to drop the case if her mother gets her fixed...
 
2010-01-27 06:31:38 PM
bobadooey: I wish biatches like this would just shut the fark up.
You're different, wow, cool, shut the fark up now you have nothing valuable to add to society. Thinking you're a wolf isn't cool or edgy, it's a clear psychological farkup.


Precisely.
 
2010-01-27 06:36:53 PM
Oznog: RobinTheHood: Khazar-Khum: beedi: where the hell do you even get a wolf hybrid? did she mate with her pet?

There are a lot of unscrupulous 'breeders' who pass off Malamute & husky crosses as "wolf hybrids". Real wolfdogs are difficult animals to raise, socialize & train. Most people who think they have 'wolf hybrids' really have dog crossbreeds.

Indeed. I had a friend that owned an actual wolf hybrid. It was tall and lean and looked like a damn wolf. Scary dog. After a few years it got totally out of control and they had to put it down. It looked NOTHING like that mutt in the article. Thats a farking husky or some shiat.

datdamwuf:There are many people who believe they have a wolf dog cross (and refer to them inaccurately as wolf hybrids). They are not hybrids, wolves and dogs are the same species, DOH. From many years of experience I can tell you that at least 80% of these people own dogs with little to no wolf in their lineage. But truly Khazar-Khum, the worst thing about this is that those owners are convinced they have a 90 percent wolf and then convince their friends they can keep one like a dog. That's why so many wolfdogs that really are high % wolf dog crosses are bought and then put down when they don't act like a dog. It's really sad :(. A wolf biologist friend put it best, wolves grow up, dogs do not. When a wolf becomes an adult it follows it's genetic requirement to be the alpha wolf. Dogs almost never do this, they are morphologically puppies their entire lives.

It's not that they want to dominate you. Wolves in the wild stay far away from humans. They're the ones likely to claim a closet as their den, only come out when there's food and wait until you leave the room. If you approach their closet they'll cower and may bite.

We are not talking about wolves in the wild, most high % breeders have you take their animals at 3 weeks so they bond to you, they think of you as a packmate and when adult they will try to climb up socially. But you are correct you get a lot of fear biting that if the human was a wolf would not really be a threat.

Also they often cannot be house trained. The socialization and house trainability was the result of domestication by breeding. If you want a pet, you need the domesticated version. Getting the undomesticated version is just a horrible idea. Some people do ok with "hybrids" (if they are indeed hybrids as claimed), but in general it's just a bad idea. If you think you can "rescue" a hybrid, fine, give it a shot, but actively seeking one over a dog and thus encouraging someone to actually breed a litter to fulfill your need is horrific.

agreed, but again, they are not "hybrids", same species.


And yup "wolf hybrid" breeders often exaggerate their % and it leads to a widespread misunderstanding of how problematic actual high % hybrids can be.

Indeed, wolves and dogs aren't supposed to be separate species. All dog breeds are actually breeds of wolf. But, here's the thing: veterinary vaccines for dogs are typically NOT approved for wolves. Ethically they may not be able to use them, and legally it may not count as vaccination.

I am well aware of the BS rules as I spent a lot of time and money trying to get the rabies vaccine approved for wolves, the HSUS blocked it, they have a lot more money and political clout.


Many cities do not allow wild animals to be kept as pets. Wolves are always considered wild animals, and hybrids MIGHT be considered wild. If you get one and find out later you can't keep it, well, that's a huge problem. You might get bused by the law after a complaint, or be scheduled to move to a place where it's not going to be allowed. At that point you've got few options.

Most animal shelters cannot adopt out wolf hybrids. They may have to euthanize them immediately.

Again, the HSUS advises shelters to kill any animal that looks like a pit bull or wolf dog cross, a highly successful progrom.

There are only a few "hybrid rescues" and they're not like a German Shepherd rescue or whatever because they can't adopt them back out, nor can they rehabilitate them and "release them back into the wild". In fact they really can't do much but warehouse them in pens for the rest of their lives. And they're usually pretty full. That's the awful truth. There's no place for them in the world if they can't stay with humans and can't be in the wild.


True and sad and they all require a large donation or ongoing donations to keep such an animal.
 
2010-01-27 06:40:38 PM
Naman: MilitaryTigger: Naman: Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do

True, humans are animals. We are the Apex animal on the planet. Confusion about that fact leads to twisted views like your post.

You think we're the apex animal on the planet. Anyone with a shred of biology education would disagree with you. There are no "apex animals". There are animals better suited for their environments than others, but there is and can be no "apex animal", because what works for one habitat may not work for others. Yes, that even applies to humans. True, we can adapt our environment to suit us, to an extent, but we'll never be as well-adapted to most habitats as the animals native to them.

Also, nice work using Grizzly Man as a strawman. Never thought I'd see that--oh wait, yes I did, because it's a painfully obvious strawman, kinda like how this article is for the anti-furry crowd.


This is anti-furry because this crazy shiat is going to portray 'em as pet killing nutjobs who truly think they're canine or whatever.
I'm praying that this is only an isolated instance because this might make a lot of people look really bad.

/kinda like a guilty by association thing.
 
2010-01-27 06:44:01 PM
Ringshadow: ChrisSuperstar:
Are you serious? There are differences in people who like to dress in animal costumes and pretend to be animals? To normal people, they both look equally retarded.

Uh, wow, dude. Thanks for proving you know nothing about furries or otherkin. Given I understand how the groups could run together, but they aren't the same thing at all.

A furry is someone who is into anthropomorphism. For some people this comes out as liking the art style, some people relate to certain animals, some people (a VERY small percent!) fursuit. You're suggesting that all furries fursuit? I hate to tell you this, but maybe five to ten percent of furries own fursuits. Most have tails, but fursuits are incredibly expensive. Basement price for a good one is $800 bucks or so and they quickly shoot into the thousands of dollars. The thing is, all furries are quite aware that it is not real. They are not what their avatar is. It's roleplay, it's artwork, but it is NOT real. And furries know that. I've been to four furry conventions and met hundreds of furries, so yeah. There you go.

Otherkin believe, honestly truly believe, that they are something else. They make all sorts of rationalizations for it, but they really believe that they are some other critter in hiding. Vampires, werewolves, unicorns, faeries. It's not restricted to animals. You could argue with them all day about how they are obviously human and it wouldn't work because they believe in it. I don't personally know any otherkin, and I avoid them because I just want to yell in their face that they are delusional. Harmless, but delusional.

This girl is an otherkin, if the article is right. She believes she is a werewolf. She's not into werewolf art or lore, or just avatars as one in Second Life or something. She freaking BELIEVES she's a werewolf. So she's an otherkin.


Oh, how careless of me! I guess I wasted my time on useless stuff like school, instead of learning about the differences between the two different groups of loonies who dress up like slutty, four-breasted skunks and bang each other in the woods.

No matter how you look at it, it's all about getting horny over dressing up like cartoon animals. No thanks.
 
2010-01-27 06:48:15 PM
WrestlerManager: fifthhorseman: ChrisSuperstar: This girl is a freakshow and needs to be locked up before she kills any more animals (I don't buy her story at all that the vanishing dog was dead before she went after it with a knife.) Throw that biatch mother in jail, too, for helping this monster get away with this.

Being terrible to people is bad enough, but doing it to animals is even worse and pretending you're a "werewolf" because you're a pathetic failure and have a knife fetish doesn't make it any better. These disgusting people, mother and daughter, literally make me sick....as do all the "friends" I'm sure she has encouraging her to believe her idiotic, furry-esque delusions.

This sentiment is the absolutely the most farked-up BS ever, and it's held by far too many people. It's worse to fark over another species than a fellow human?! What in hell makes people say this?

Have you spent any time with humans?


Indeed. People can at least defend themselves, and have all kinds of laws on their side. Someone who abuses animals like this sicko furry freak are preying on beings that usually offer their owners unconditional love, and can't speak up for or protect themselves whenever should-have-been-aborted monsters like "wolfie" here decide to kill them.
 
2010-01-27 06:52:47 PM
Naman: MilitaryTigger: Naman: Humans are not more or less important than animals, we are animals. We have no more or less worth than they do

True, humans are animals. We are the Apex animal on the planet. Confusion about that fact leads to twisted views like your post.

You think we're the apex animal on the planet. Anyone with a shred of biology education would disagree with you. There are no "apex animals". There are animals better suited for their environments than others, but there is and can be no "apex animal", because what works for one habitat may not work for others. Yes, that even applies to humans. True, we can adapt our environment to suit us, to an extent, but we'll never be as well-adapted to most habitats as the animals native to them.

Also, nice work using Grizzly Man as a strawman. Never thought I'd see that--oh wait, yes I did, because it's a painfully obvious strawman, kinda like how this article is for the anti-furry crowd.


Hmmm.. let's go in reverse order...

Furry-folk are furry-folk. If it makes them happy then who should really care? Consenting adults, private settings, don't give a rat's flying butt, yadda-yadda.

Oooooooh... college debate term... "Strawman": To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Looking back at our posts, it seems I DID directly comment, giving examples, disputing your prime point. The pic of the movie was an add-on, and directly enough provided a focused example of the fallacy of your argument by displaying someone who followed your views and was EATEN for doing so, reinforcing my point... Therefore, NOT a "strawman".

As to your belief that we humans are not Apex predators (also known as alpha, super-, or top-level predators) are predators that have virtually no predators of their own, residing at the top of their food chain, I rather disagree with you. As tool using humans, we are able to kill and eat every other animal on the planet, and some humans certainly have tried to fullfill that goal (Shout-out to Theodore Anthony "Ted" Nugent). We have no natural predators other than other humans and sometimes our own stupidity of placing ourselves on equal or lesser terms to large carnivores.

The human brain allows us to develop and use tools to become faster, stronger, and more deadly than any other critter on the globe.

/Tools: They make ANYTHING what's for dinner.
 
2010-01-27 06:56:32 PM
So I'm late to the thread but I knew a girl like this. She was in her 20's had the fake tail and all. As far as furrie they only typically sport the tail. They usually are messed up socially and use it as there escape. Its more like they think they can transform like the homo from twilight at night. Yes there very sexual but very stupid on there decisions. Many Ive seen are strippers as well. I live in California so think of some strange fetish they got it out here, Including the ones that think there Vampires.
 
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