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2010-01-26 06:00:02 PM  
Nothing ever gets resolved through internet forum debates, so y'all hush up and post more tranny twink pictures.

/What do you call those, anyway? Swiss rolls?
//Ghastly, help me out
///with the naming, too :)
 
2010-01-26 06:01:34 PM  
So, how to interpret this statement FTA:

"It doesn't matter that (the victim) wasn't a female," Athens-Clarke Capt. Clarence Holeman said. "The suspect's intent was to commit rape."

He thinks rape only happens to women?
 
2010-01-26 06:01:58 PM  
Virtue: Guess that "Rape is about power not sex" thing just flew out the window.

Just because something is the most common reason does not mean it is the only reason.

And allot of the time when it is abbout power you have some guy who has an issue specifically with women and it has to do with power of women...or someone who reminds them of someone (mother, wife, sister, boss, whatever)
 
2010-01-26 06:03:07 PM  
ciocia: Mykeru: ciocia: O.K., the Department of Justice puts the number of spurious rape claims at about 8%link. But what do they know?

A "spurious claim" would be what, an exoneration before or with trial? That could be taken as "Only 8% of men accused of rape were exonerated". The problem is, to me, that a "spurious claim" would mean an accusation of rape where no rape occurred. Reality is often trickier than that. A disproportionate number of Innocence Project cases are of men falsely accused and convicted of rape. However, there is no question that the accuser was raped. However, the woman identified the wrong man, a problem I would think made vastly worse by the added component of alcohol.

Which is a wonderful situation where we get to have two victims:

"For 23 years, Michelle Mallin thought Timothy Cole had raped her in 1985. She had identified him in two lineups and he had been convicted of raping her and sentenced to 25 years in prison. He claimed his innocence, however, until the day he died in prison of asthma in 1999.

In 1995, another man, Jerry Wayne Johnson, starting admitting in letters that he committed the crime. His claims fell on deaf ears for the more than a decade. Last year, the Innocence Project of Texas began investigating the case, and new DNA testing indeed proves that Cole was innocent and that Johnson committed the rape. Cole's family, along with the Innocence Project of Texas, is now pushing for his exoneration, and they have an ally in Mallin."

by "spurious," DOJ meant that, in the opinion of the police, no crime had been committed. Women don't always, or even mostly misidentfy because they are drunk, but because they are frightened, hurt, in shock. In some Project Innocence cases, the victim was dead. I think we can safely agree that in such cases, it wasn't morning after remorse but a real crime, no? I'm amazed that any thread on rape--even the attempted rape of a man--turns into "aren't women lying biatches?"


Now that you are done, you might benefit from reading what I actually wrote:

"However, there is no question that the accuser was raped."

"Which is a wonderful situation where we get to have two victims"

Your reading of that as "aren't women lying biatches?" is so grossly unfair that I really have to ask: Is there something wrong with you?

ciocia: I wasn't talking about her, but the whole thread. In general, when drugs and alcohol are involved and the accuser is a white college student, there are "thorny issues" that make the cover of magazines. When the accuser is a hooker, or homeless, or from the dregs of society, the case is just thrown out.

Like the Duke Lacrosse case was "just thrown out"? I'm answering my own question, but there's definitely something wrong with you. I think it might be that you confuse someone entertaining the complexities of the issue and examining the problems of false accusations with their personally holding a big rape party at their house every Tuesday night.
 
2010-01-26 06:07:03 PM  
Who is the rapists when people are drunk? I'd say whoever was the active partner. Which can definitely be the chick.

If, after a few too many drinks, the chick goes after your virgin hole with a 10 inch "stallion" dildo from her collection, she definitely raped you. Or if she tied a string around your cock to keep you hard while you tried not to toss your cookies for all the rocking about. Yeah, that'd be rape. Or if she posed you naked for pictures while you were passed out, then shared them with her friends who subsequently posted them up on some site called RateMyBody.com. Yeah that'd be rape. Or at least sexual assault.

So boys, think about who you are with before you get drunk. Because when you complain later to your friends, feeling embarrassed and raw in unmentionable places, barely holding back your tears, your friends are going to laugh at you. Laugh and point. And even the bittersweet victory of seeing your rapist convicted won't bring back your innocence.

/I had a point in there somewhere but I think I lost track of it.
 
2010-01-26 06:08:12 PM  
Virtue: If rape is about power not about sex then why is it that women aged 15 to 25 are more likely to be raped than women over aged 50?

Not twice as likely
Not 10 times as likely
Not 1000 times as likely

50,000 times more likely.

Stats from the Department of Justice....please feel free to visit their website
http://www.justice.gov/


You're an idiot. Imagine raping someone. Not morning after regret or drunken fumbling, but coerced, knife-against-the-throat, drag-her-into-the-van, screaming-and-crying rape.

Now tell me, what part of that, aside from the casual similarity of penetration, in any way resembles "sex", even "bad sex"?
 
2010-01-26 06:12:56 PM  
BolshevikMuppet: If she doesn't say "no" it can be rape because she hasn't said "yes". Consent doesn't exist without direct consent. Implication can work, but not as a defense if she claims she never gave her consent and you say "well, yeah, never verbally".

I walk up to you, and stick out my hand, and you shake my hand, I then have you arrested for assault because you never specifically asked if you could shake my hand, and I never specifically said you could.

Silly, Right?

You walk into my store, grab a bottle of water, toss a dollar or two on the counter and walk out, I then have you arrested for theft because I never specifically gave you permission to buy the bottle,(and you never asked for permission)?

Silly, right?

You are making out with a willing girl, and have sex with her, but you can be arrested because she never gave explicit permission to have sex (And you never specifically asked)?

Completely not silly, right?
 
2010-01-26 06:14:24 PM  
Man there is a entire platoon of Internet white knights !
 
2010-01-26 06:16:08 PM  
DIGITALgimpus: I hate Chevy: Yeah that's it. Let's hear more of your brilliance. Please proceed.

If it was power he would have continued.

The guy aborted... clearly it was about the sex.


Unless the MO of this rapest is a very specific type of target. Most rapest have specific things they look for. Usually people who remind them of someone specific.
 
2010-01-26 06:16:26 PM  
waterbrother: BolshevikMuppet: waterbrother: BolshevikMuppet:

No consent exists until given.

this is just plain crazy! in all my years of pursuing the opposite sex i have never stopped and asked "would you like to have sex now?"

it's not romantic, or conducive to a passionate mood, especially if you're boning someone who is for all intents and purposes a complete stranger. most women DO NOT want to be asked directly, it would be off-putting.


Sorry, but how do you know this? You're not a woman, right? And it sounds like you haven't even tried it. If a woman throws you out of bed for being respectful maybe you should find a partner you can respect.
 
2010-01-26 06:18:07 PM  
fredklein: BolshevikMuppet: If she doesn't say "no" it can be rape because she hasn't said "yes". Consent doesn't exist without direct consent. Implication can work, but not as a defense if she claims she never gave her consent and you say "well, yeah, never verbally".

I walk up to you, and stick out my hand, and you shake my hand, I then have you arrested for assault because you never specifically asked if you could shake my hand, and I never specifically said you could.

Silly, Right?

You walk into my store, grab a bottle of water, toss a dollar or two on the counter and walk out, I then have you arrested for theft because I never specifically gave you permission to buy the bottle,(and you never asked for permission)?

Silly, right?

You are making out with a willing girl, and have sex with her, but you can be arrested because she never gave explicit permission to have sex (And you never specifically asked)?

Completely not silly, right?


Good god, PLEASE don't try using theoretical comparisons any more. You totally suck at it.
 
2010-01-26 06:18:08 PM  
Liberally1337: platedlizard: Coco LaFemme: El_Swino: Thegreaser: I'm going to assume it was one of those unisex emo kids that wear womens jeans and have haircuts like old Kate Gosselin.

FTA:
The victim crawled from the woods and was sitting on the ground, crying in the rain, when police arrived.

I'd say you're right.


So crying after nearly being raped equals being emo? I'd say that's a pretty standard response to something like that, regardless of gender/musical taste.

Especially for a 17 year old who just had the shiat kicked out of him. Poor kid.

Walk it off!


...and rub some dirt on it.
 
2010-01-26 06:18:41 PM  
feralbaby: Sorry, but how do you know this? You're not a woman, right? And it sounds like you haven't even tried it. If a woman throws you out of bed for being respectful maybe you should find a partner you can respect.

Excuse me, do you mind if I respond to your comment?
 
2010-01-26 06:19:39 PM  
feralbaby: What the hell is THAT?

A journal article from The Institute for Psychological Therapies. If you bothered to read it (I know, this is Fark, who reads?), you would see there are references at the bottom of the page. The data from the parts I quoted was from:

McDowell, C. P., & Hibler, N. S. (1985). False allegations. Holland: Elsevier. Published for the Behavioral Science Unit, FBI Academy, Quantico, VA.

Further details of the BSU are here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/td/academy/bsu/bsu.htm (new window)

I guess the FBI isn't a good enough cite for you. Sorry.
 
2010-01-26 06:21:28 PM  
Mykeru: feralbaby: Sorry, but how do you know this? You're not a woman, right? And it sounds like you haven't even tried it. If a woman throws you out of bed for being respectful maybe you should find a partner you can respect.

Excuse me, do you mind if I respond to your comment?


Oh, are you trying to do the whole "I need your consent for everything" spiel that's ridiculous? Because it doesn't work. Commenting without consent is not illegal.

If you're not, then sure, go ahead.
 
2010-01-26 06:21:46 PM  
SakuraDensetsu: DIGITALgimpus: I hate Chevy: Yeah that's it. Let's hear more of your brilliance. Please proceed.

If it was power he would have continued.

The guy aborted... clearly it was about the sex.

Unless the MO of this rapest is a very specific type of target. Most rapest have specific things they look for. Usually people who remind them of someone specific.


Most rapists have specific things they look for ... like people that they are sexually attracted to.

Rape is about sex; sick, twisted, hurtful sex, but sex none the less. Rapists don't rape people that they don't want to have sex with.
 
2010-01-26 06:21:50 PM  
feralbaby,

I'm sorry. I didn't ask permission to quote you first. Do you mind if I quote you and then respond to your comment?
 
2010-01-26 06:23:28 PM  
feralbaby: Oh, are you trying to do the whole "I need your consent for everything" spiel that's ridiculous? Because it doesn't work. Commenting without consent is not illegal.

If you're not, then sure, go ahead.


So, if I am, I can't respond?
 
2010-01-26 06:23:48 PM  
meatofmystery: am i really the first????

Came here for the Akbar, left satisfied.
 
2010-01-26 06:23:51 PM  
Mykeru: ciocia: Mykeru: ciocia: O.K., the Department of Justice puts the number of spurious rape claims at about 8%link. But what do they know?

A "spurious claim" would be what, an exoneration before or with trial? That could be taken as "Only 8% of men accused of rape were exonerated". The problem is, to me, that a "spurious claim" would mean an accusation of rape where no rape occurred. Reality is often trickier than that. A disproportionate number of Innocence Project cases are of men falsely accused and convicted of rape. However, there is no question that the accuser was raped. However, the woman identified the wrong man, a problem I would think made vastly worse by the added component of alcohol.

Which is a wonderful situation where we get to have two victims:

"For 23 years, Michelle Mallin thought Timothy Cole had raped her in 1985. She had identified him in two lineups and he had been convicted of raping her and sentenced to 25 years in prison. He claimed his innocence, however, until the day he died in prison of asthma in 1999.

In 1995, another man, Jerry Wayne Johnson, starting admitting in letters that he committed the crime. His claims fell on deaf ears for the more than a decade. Last year, the Innocence Project of Texas began investigating the case, and new DNA testing indeed proves that Cole was innocent and that Johnson committed the rape. Cole's family, along with the Innocence Project of Texas, is now pushing for his exoneration, and they have an ally in Mallin."

by "spurious," DOJ meant that, in the opinion of the police, no crime had been committed. Women don't always, or even mostly misidentfy because they are drunk, but because they are frightened, hurt, in shock. In some Project Innocence cases, the victim was dead. I think we can safely agree that in such cases, it wasn't morning after remorse but a real crime, no? I'm amazed that any thread on rape--even the attempted rape of a man--turns into "aren't women lying biatches?"

Now that you are done, you might benefit from reading what I actually wrote:

"However, there is no question that the accuser was raped."

"Which is a wonderful situation where we get to have two victims"

Your reading of that as "aren't women lying biatches?" is so grossly unfair that I really have to ask: Is there something wrong with you?

ciocia: I wasn't talking about her, but the whole thread. In general, when drugs and alcohol are involved and the accuser is a white college student, there are "thorny issues" that make the cover of magazines. When the accuser is a hooker, or homeless, or from the dregs of society, the case is just thrown out.

Like the Duke Lacrosse case was "just thrown out"? I'm answering my own question, but there's definitely something wrong with you. I think it might be that you confuse someone entertaining the complexities of the issue and examining the problems of false accusations with their personally holding a big rape party at their house every Tuesday night.


You are right about the original posting. I didn't read your posting closely, and I appologize. However, the Duke case is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It was pursued to the ends of the earth not on its merits, but because it involved high-profile people at a big college campus, and attracted the attention of activists, while the chick who accused the Cleveland serial killer of rape months before he was caught was dismissed, because she was a street chick who knew nobody in particular. Now that last sentence of yours? It's some crazy hyperbole, and it beats mine all to heck.
 
2010-01-26 06:23:59 PM  
Mykeru: feralbaby,

I'm sorry. I didn't ask permission to quote you first. Do you mind if I quote you and then respond to your comment?


Being annoying doesn't make you intelligent. Just thought I'd let you know to spare you some typing.
 
2010-01-26 06:24:58 PM  
fredklein: feralbaby: What the hell is THAT?

A journal article from The Institute for Psychological Therapies. If you bothered to read it (I know, this is Fark, who reads?), you would see there are references at the bottom of the page. The data from the parts I quoted was from:

McDowell, C. P., & Hibler, N. S. (1985). False allegations. Holland: Elsevier. Published for the Behavioral Science Unit, FBI Academy, Quantico, VA.

Further details of the BSU are here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/td/academy/bsu/bsu.htm (new window)

I guess the FBI isn't a good enough cite for you. Sorry.


A link about behavioral science. That's. Nice.
 
2010-01-26 06:27:33 PM  
feralbaby: Mykeru: feralbaby,

I'm sorry. I didn't ask permission to quote you first. Do you mind if I quote you and then respond to your comment?

Being annoying doesn't make you intelligent. Just thought I'd let you know to spare you some typing.


I'm sorry, is that a yes or a no on responding to your comments?

I would hate for there to be any ambiguity in your giving consent. In fact, I've asked directly several times and instead of "yes" or "no" you have either placed subjunctive conditions or failed to respond directly.
 
2010-01-26 06:28:23 PM  
Venn: Here in Athens you can spot most trannies from one hundred yards, drunk. Dude must have been spooked.

Or the ones you aren't spotting you never notice at all. Really, that is one of the most steretypical anti tranny responses out there, and it is 99/100 times proven wrong. Just because you see some who cannot pass does not none of them pass.
 
2010-01-26 06:29:46 PM  
Mykeru: feralbaby: Mykeru: feralbaby,

I'm sorry. I didn't ask permission to quote you first. Do you mind if I quote you and then respond to your comment?

Being annoying doesn't make you intelligent. Just thought I'd let you know to spare you some typing.

I'm sorry, is that a yes or a no on responding to your comments?

I would hate for there to be any ambiguity in your giving consent. In fact, I've asked directly several times and instead of "yes" or "no" you have either placed subjunctive conditions or failed to respond directly.


psst. Mykeru, see about ten posts ago.. you'll see I answered your question already. Please pay attention. No, not just to the things you want to pay attention to.
"Several times?" Don't think so.
 
2010-01-26 06:30:40 PM  
ciocia: You are right about the original posting. I didn't read your posting closely, and I appologize. However, the Duke case is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It was pursued to the ends of the earth not on its merits, but because it involved high-profile people at a big college campus, and attracted the attention of activists, while the chick who accused the Cleveland serial killer of rape months before he was caught was dismissed, because she was a street chick who knew nobody in particular. Now that last sentence of yours? It's some crazy hyperbole, and it beats mine all to heck.

Yeah, well, that's nice. But I'm not following up with someone who doesn't have even the slightest modicum of respect for the opinions of other to actually farking read what they wrote.
 
2010-01-26 06:31:19 PM  
Alright Mykeru, bye now.. I don't waste time on farkheads who play stupid. I hope you're playing anyway. Which is a tried and true pattern with you. Got better stuff to do now.
 
2010-01-26 06:31:41 PM  
feralbaby: Good god, PLEASE don't try using theoretical comparisons any more. You totally suck at it.

Why? The point is (because you evidently missed it) most social interactions do not involve specifically giving permission for the interaction to continue, so why should sex? If she's a willing participant, then that should be enough. He shouldn't have to specifically ask each time he does something, and she shouldn't have to specifically give permission each time.
 
2010-01-26 06:32:38 PM  
feralbaby: psst. Mykeru, see about ten posts ago.. you'll see I answered your question already. Please pay attention. No, not just to the things you want to pay attention to.
"Several times?" Don't think so.


See: You are still doing it. Instead of yes or no you are writing things like "see about ten posts ago", which actually takes more time and effort to write than a simple straight answer.

You are just being coy, aren't you, sugar tits?
 
2010-01-26 06:37:28 PM  
fredklein: Why? The point is (because you evidently missed it) most social interactions do not involve specifically giving permission for the interaction to continue, so why should sex? If she's a willing participant, then that should be enough. He shouldn't have to specifically ask each time he does something, and she shouldn't have to specifically give permission each time.

I see your point, unfortunately, it's completely invalid because you didn't ask before you responded. You weren't given specific permission to engage in this interaction.
 
2010-01-26 06:37:55 PM  
feralbaby: A link about behavioral sciencea study that showed 60% of rape claims were false. That's. Nice.

FTFY.
 
2010-01-26 06:38:21 PM  
fredklein: feralbaby: Good god, PLEASE don't try using theoretical comparisons any more. You totally suck at it.

Why? The point is (because you evidently missed it) most social interactions do not involve specifically giving permission for the interaction to continue, so why should sex? If she's a willing participant, then that should be enough. He shouldn't have to specifically ask each time he does something, and she shouldn't have to specifically give permission each time.

in some places you'd at the least get an annoyed glare for throwing a couple bucks on the counter instead of going up to the register with the water. So you're someone who goes through life just dismissing social rules that are inconvenient for you? In some places you get the shiat kicked out of you for it.

Yes, I got what you were trying to do there. Still a really stupid comparison.
 
2010-01-26 06:40:21 PM  
feralbaby: Yes, I got what you were trying to do there. Still a really stupid comparison.

You must be like "Simon Says" in the sack.
 
2010-01-26 06:40:39 PM  
Mykeru: I see your point, unfortunately, it's completely invalid because you didn't ask before you responded. You weren't given specific permission to engage in this interaction.

Are you accusing me of forum-rape?

/And I didn't even use any roofiesslashies
//Except now
///darn
 
2010-01-26 06:40:55 PM  
ciocia: OniNeko: MeanJean: OniNeko

I'm not like most guys, but I think MURDER would be my standard response.

"Give it to me big boy." *rips off genitals while chewing his throat out.*

So if a huge guy with a knife started ripping your clothes off you'd be able to rip off his dick and chew his throat out?

You're a prime example of an internet tough guy. Do you have to be at the gym in 26 minutes?

Virtue Guess that "Rape is about power not sex" thing just flew out the window.

No, you dumb fark. If it was about sex and not power, he'd get a hooker, not attack some random person on the street. Obviously in this case he wanted to have power of a woman instead of a man. Gee whiz, a rapist who hates women, who woulda thunk it?

You sound like a coward. I bet you'd lay there and take it.

If my warrior mentality doesn't make sense to you, that's okay. I don't give a shiat if he outweighs me 3x and carries an uzi. If he wants to rape me, he'll have to rape my corpse or die trying.



Everybody thinks the same thing before they actually enter prison.


Exactly. Hypothetical =/= reality unfortunately
 
2010-01-26 06:43:02 PM  
Mykeru: feralbaby: psst. Mykeru, see about ten posts ago.. you'll see I answered your question already. Please pay attention. No, not just to the things you want to pay attention to.
"Several times?" Don't think so.

See: You are still doing it. Instead of yes or no you are writing things like "see about ten posts ago", which actually takes more time and effort to write than a simple straight answer.

You are just being coy, aren't you, sugar tits?




Alright Mykeru, for people with special needs like you, I like to help:

Mykeru: feralbaby: Sorry, but how do you know this? You're not a woman, right? And it sounds like you haven't even tried it. If a woman throws you out of bed for being respectful maybe you should find a partner you can respect.

Excuse me, do you mind if I respond to your comment?

Oh, are you trying to do the whole "I need your consent for everything" spiel that's ridiculous? Because it doesn't work. Commenting without consent is not illegal.

If you're not, then sure, go ahead.


Now I'm done with you, toothpick dick. ;-)
 
2010-01-26 06:43:40 PM  
fredklein: Mykeru: I see your point, unfortunately, it's completely invalid because you didn't ask before you responded. You weren't given specific permission to engage in this interaction.

Are you accusing me of forum-rape?

/And I didn't even use any roofiesslashies
//Except now
///darn


You know, I don't know if you are a forum rapist. All I can think of right now is Xeno's Archer's Paradox applied to sex.
 
2010-01-26 06:45:00 PM  
feralbaby: So you're someone who goes through life just dismissing social rules that are inconvenient for you?

So, you think it's a rule to walk up to the cashier, and spefically ask if you can purchase each product?

Bull. You plop your items on the belt and the cashier scans them without a word, just like with everyone else.
 
2010-01-26 06:45:16 PM  
feralbaby: Alright Mykeru, for people with special needs like you, I like to help:

Mykeru: feralbaby: Sorry, but how do you know this? You're not a woman, right? And it sounds like you haven't even tried it. If a woman throws you out of bed for being respectful maybe you should find a partner you can respect.

Excuse me, do you mind if I respond to your comment?

Oh, are you trying to do the whole "I need your consent for everything" spiel that's ridiculous? Because it doesn't work. Commenting without consent is not illegal.

If you're not, then sure, go ahead.

Now I'm done with you, toothpick dick. ;-)


Yup we're done. You demonstrated the ludicrousness of your own position admirably.
 
2010-01-26 06:48:39 PM  
ciocia: Mykeru: ciocia:

You are right about the original posting. I didn't read your posting closely, and I appologize. However, the Duke case is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It was pursued to the ends of the earth not on its merits, but because it involved high-profile people at a big college campus, and attracted the attention of activists, while the chick who accused the Cleveland serial killer of rape months before he was caught was dismissed, because she was a street chick who knew nobody in particular. Now that last sentence of yours? It's some crazy hyperbole, and it beats mine all to heck.


The lady who accused the Cleveland killed was not just dismissed. She also refused to cooperate with the police. She stood them up for at least two different interviews. In addition, several people would not come forth about the other missing women.

Granted, there were mistakes made with that nutjob, but being dismissive to the witnesses was not the primary reason.
 
2010-01-26 06:48:39 PM  
feralbaby: If you're not, then sure, go ahead.

And he then asked:

"So, if I am, I can't respond?"

Which you never answered.
 
2010-01-26 06:57:08 PM  
MeanJean: @OniNeko
*You sound like a coward. I bet you'd lay there and take it.*

So a woman who doesn't fight back for fear of being murdered is a coward? Is that what you would tell a weeping rape victim? "You coward, if you were brave like me you would've fought back! You just lay there and took it?!"

This is called victim blaming.


Ironically this is actually covered in the Bible in the OT

If a woman is raped but does not suitably fight back it is under God's direct word that they are basically a whore and enjoyed it and are to be stoned to death as an adultrous. So according to God, either you get away or you are an adultrous.

In reality, it doesn't work that way.

Other sections rapists are ordered by God to pay the father if they get her pregnant and then marry the victem.

The harsh reality is that it is rare that if someone is wanting to rape you that you can do much about it. Doesn't matter who you are. Even if you are a big strong alpha male, if someone has picked you out I can gurantee they have picked you specifically and planned for it.
 
2010-01-26 07:01:24 PM  
MeanJean:
Because its so much more "warrior-like" to have him leave your bloodied, cum-stained corpse in a ditch than to live on to identify your rapist and bring him to justice.


Quoting again to emphasize this. You made the guy kill you? Congrats, you are now indirectly responsible for this rapists future attacks. I know I for one would rather live than forfeit my life over a comparatively short period of hell, and would rather be there to see this guy put away.

You have warrior mentality and want to fight and defend yourself? Fine. Be smart and realize when you are in no win, then track the guy down yourself. Really not a responsible and appropriate response, but it is better than being dead.
 
2010-01-26 07:04:40 PM  
SakuraDensetsu:
The harsh reality is that it is rare that if someone is wanting to rape you that you can do much about it.



Actually, you can prevent John Malkovich from raping you by offering him your unconditional consent to any and all sexual acts. Other than that there is no known way to prevent John Malkovich from raping you.
 
2010-01-26 07:14:28 PM  
Tyrone Biggums: MBooda: Tyrone Biggums: MBooda: Venn: Here in Athens you can spot most trannies from one hundred yards, drunk.

They're the ones on the field wearing red, with big "G"'s on their helmets.

Winnah!!!!

/War Eagle

/we were at the '98 peach bowl
//think we were the only ones there wearing orange and navy blue instead of red
///almost pulled it out, dammit
////pep band was great as usual, though
//not any more, dammit

I can't really laugh at the bulldogs. We haven't beaten them in a few years.


After I read your Boobies, I was going to remind you of the past 4 years, but I saw that you did it yourself. It's a shame we can't seem to put a streak like that on Kentucky lately.

/Go Dawgs!
//boo rape
 
2010-01-26 07:16:17 PM  
joel!!!!!:
After I read your Boobies,


I hope you had consent to do that.
 
2010-01-26 07:18:03 PM  
SakuraDensetsu: Ironically this is actually covered in the Bible in the OT

And you know why it was covered in the Bible? Because even back then, they had trouble with false accusations of rape. Women having affairs, then crying 'rape' when their husbands found out, so as to escape punishment. So they made a rule that basically said 'if it was really rape, you would have fought back'. If she didn't fight back, they concluded it wasn't rape, and punished her, too.

Makes a certain kind of sense, if you think about it.
 
2010-01-26 07:23:37 PM  
fredklein: SakuraDensetsu: Ironically this is actually covered in the Bible in the OT

And you know why it was covered in the Bible? Because even back then, they had trouble with false accusations of rape. Women having affairs, then crying 'rape' when their husbands found out, so as to escape punishment. So they made a rule that basically said 'if it was really rape, you would have fought back'. If she didn't fight back, they concluded it wasn't rape, and punished her, too.

Makes a certain kind of sense, if you think about it.


People bear all sorts of false witness. That's why they covered it in a commandment. And they make up all kinds of false accusations and statements about everything, which is why there are perjury laws. So your point would be?????

//oh, I forgot. Your point is that only women make false crime accusations. Nevermind.
 
2010-01-26 07:25:16 PM  
waterbrother: BolshevikMuppet: If she decides part-way through that she doesn't want it, it's rape.

that sentence scares the shiat out of me. what if said objection goes unvocalized? at what point does a man "rape" a woman without knowing or unintentionally?

sex with regrets does not equal rape, otherwise every man who ever got laid with beer-goggles on has been raped. where do you draw the line?


I don't see it as being that hard: if she starts pushing you away, if she starts saying no or wait, if she tries to get up, if she passes out. I'd also say you should stop if she starts to cry or otherwise show signs of distress.
 
2010-01-26 07:25:31 PM  
Spirit Hammer: Blogarhythm: OniNeko:

Taking advantage of someone sexually when their judgment is severely impaired IS considered sexual assault. I do agree on the point of regret, depending on the circumstances.

But if both parties have been drinking, how do you decide who was sexually assaulting whom?

The male is ALWAYS at fault.


That is because testosterone makes people agressive and can blur your judgement. Its effects on the brain tend to push the brain towards narrow minded aggression, which is fine in a tribal setting because it keeps everyone safe and fed. In a bar with a few drinks in you or in a teenage who is not used to the burst of hormones it tends to lead to some really stupid and aggresive decisions.

While not always the male's fault, there is definately a strong push in the male mind to do some unreasonable things.
 
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