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2010-01-26 04:10:04 PM
These "Scientology Volunteers" showed up on Virginia Tech's campus after the shootings there a few years back to provide "grief counseling and trauma relief". I'll give them credit though, they put up a big bright yellow tent and dressed in yellow shirts with "Scientology Volunteer" above a cross making them very easy to avoid for those who wanted to which appeared to be everyone.

staging.radaronline.com
 
2010-01-26 04:11:13 PM
DrewFL: rigamrts: haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

Actually, I don't know about the amish, but the Menonites dress the same but they all have cell phones. There were a bunch of them at the job site in amish garb, talking on cell phones. Odd looking to say the least.


The Mennonite Central Committee (pops) is sending a lot of relief aid to Haiti.

\One of my clients is one of their programs
\\Quite proud of that fact, even though I'm an "militant" atheist
 
2010-01-26 04:13:09 PM
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"But you promised to help me move, aw jeez!"
 
2010-01-26 04:14:26 PM
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2010-01-26 04:17:02 PM
Epicedion: And because the founders of the cult were smart enough to brand it as a religion they got tax-exempt status dug up dirt on the directors of the IRS and used a 50-state lawsuit approach to make the IRS capitulate and sign a (still) secret agreement that gives $cientologists special protections and tax deductions and no one can touch them in the US because they hide under the umbrella we set out for religion.

FTFY
 
2010-01-26 04:20:42 PM
Didn't read the thread, and I am sure I am echoing a lot of posts, but...

As much as I hate Scientology, submitter is a raging douchebag.
 
2010-01-26 04:22:33 PM
BadSpellingAGoGo: Does anyone else remember the commercials for Dianetics with the volcano?

When I was a kid I thought it would be a really cool disaster book to read. I always asked my mom to buy it.

Oops.


lol I remember those commercials

usually saw them in the middle of the night watching some cheesey movie on usa's Up all Night

ahhh memories
 
2010-01-26 04:22:34 PM
Jeff73:
That (bullbaiting) sounds like a pretty good explanation for the behavior of the guy I mentioned in my last post. Questioning anything the CoS told him turned him into one of the Tranquil from the Dragon Age game until you gave up on it.


Like a tranquil who yells about Enchantment! Good catch!
 
2010-01-26 04:23:04 PM
BadSpellingAGoGo: Does anyone else remember the commercials for Dianetics with the volcano?

When I was a kid I thought it would be a really cool disaster book to read. I always asked my mom to buy it.

Oops.


That's hilarious. I thought the exact same thing. We would have been seriously disappointed if we actually read the book.
 
2010-01-26 04:25:02 PM
shadowself: Didn't read the thread, and I am sure I am echoing a lot of posts, but...

As much as I hate Scientology, submitter is a raging douchebag.


Really ... you think it is OK for celebrities to bump planes that have real aid so they can deliver their cult representatives (with a token amount of aid to justify their presence)?

As I said before: Whoever cleared this landing should be fired or court marshaled.
 
2010-01-26 04:27:18 PM
And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:

www.info-about-alcoholism.com

being self-absorbed pricks.
 
2010-01-26 04:29:48 PM
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something

There are nonreligious groups in Haiti doing good work.

If you mean personally, what are you doing?
 
2010-01-26 04:30:18 PM
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:



being self-absorbed pricks.


Because convincing people to avoid real doctors and avoid getting real help is good in your eyes?
 
2010-01-26 04:32:13 PM
GungFu: These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.


If it's the same group I heard interviewed on NPR, they were getting out because they were out of food, water, meds, and clothing. Their building was collapsed. What could they do, aside from beg for aid from other charities?
 
2010-01-26 04:32:39 PM
amanogowa: Because convincing people to avoid real doctors and avoid getting real help is good in your eyes?

Don't visit those psychologists after barely surviving a horrifying disaster in which you lost your entire family and all your friends, and after you had to claw your way out from under a building after spending four days buried alive!

Those psychologists, they'll make you crazy!
 
2010-01-26 04:33:20 PM
Epicedion: GungFu: These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.

Why is there a cross on the Scientology t-shirt?


To fool people into believing they are a Christian group.
 
2010-01-26 04:33:43 PM
Gamer Grrrl: jebusfreak: Snarfangel: By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.

Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

It goes bing when there's stuff? Sounds like a timey wimey detector!


Approves!


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2010-01-26 04:33:51 PM
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Did my cousin Polly lie when she told the family that L.Ron tried to kill L.Ron Jr with a coathanger? She did bear scars from that little episode, both mental and physical, for the rest of her life. Y'all nearly drove her to insanity by calling her a filthy drunk and harrassing her.. You, and everyone else who thinks like you, can rott in the deepest crevice of a 400-pound ghetto camel-toe.
 
2010-01-26 04:34:53 PM
Maximusclay: I'm not gonna fault the guy for flying over there with 6 tons of military ration food.

Sure, as an isolated factoid, ignoring all other factors, few would. The question is, do you fault him for slowing down the relief efforts by taking up valuable air- and runway space that is desperately needed for much larger cargo planes carrying much more significant payloads?

If not, why not?

If I hop in my (purely hypothetical) private plane and cause a similar disruption by flying in a dozen military rations and a therapeutic touch practitioner, am I a hero too?

If not, where's the line? Is one ton of supplies enough? Two?

Seems to me the right thing to do in this case would be to simply bring your supplies to one of the many, many donation centres so they can be delivered more efficiently along with the rest of the supplies. Wouldn't be much of a photo-op, though.
 
2010-01-26 04:36:44 PM
Gawain: Maximusclay: I'm not gonna fault the guy for flying over there with 6 tons of military ration food.

Sure, as an isolated factoid, ignoring all other factors, few would. The question is, do you fault him for slowing down the relief efforts by taking up valuable air- and runway space that is desperately needed for much larger cargo planes carrying much more significant payloads?

If not, why not?

If I hop in my (purely hypothetical) private plane and cause a similar disruption by flying in a dozen military rations and a therapeutic touch practitioner, am I a hero too?

If not, where's the line? Is one ton of supplies enough? Two?

Seems to me the right thing to do in this case would be to simply bring your supplies to one of the many, many donation centres so they can be delivered more efficiently along with the rest of the supplies. Wouldn't be much of a photo-op, though.


Just bring me a six pack and some Ho-Ho's and touch me therapeutically. I'll call you a hero.
 
2010-01-26 04:36:55 PM
Nemo's Brother: Bush had a hurricane machine and Obama has an Earthquake machine. We need to quit voting in people who have mini-doomsday devices. Simple as that.

/Or did the radical liberals (Farakah, Glover, Jackson, Kanye West) not believe Obama used his machine?


Speaking of an earthquake weapon (new window)...

/ I've seen this same article on sites other than Fox, and it still makes me LOL each time I read it.
 
2010-01-26 04:39:35 PM
SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".
 
2010-01-26 04:40:48 PM
William Shakesbeer: SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".


Well they did have a navy.
 
2010-01-26 04:40:54 PM
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:

There are plenty of secular charities, from the Red Cross to Doctors without Borders to UNICEF that atheist groups have donated to. I've donated money to the Red Cross myself.

The difference is that Richard Dawkins isn't flying into Port au Prince with a pallet full of his books. That's why it looks like we're not doing anything.
 
2010-01-26 04:41:47 PM
William Shakesbeer: SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".


That's very interesting. It would not surprise me. They could enslave the populace and have a "Land Org" to work alongside the Sea Org.
 
2010-01-26 04:42:02 PM
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just as stupid. how bout confession. who's to say that your going to heaven cause you professed you guilt to man. are catholics brainwashed? probably. jews. some believe you can't speak of god and can only call him I. buddist believe in the circle of life. i can pick peices of all religions of their stupid beliefs. but does it make wrong to beleive in something? no. it's human nature to want to belong to something to beleive in something bigger.

yes scientology has alot of roots in the crowlites. cause he studied that religion before starting his own. the whole lady story is stolen word for word from crowley's teachings with a few tweaks to make it better. the whole belief in I "or myself" is stolen from satanism. these are a few flaw in sientology. but i can find alot in the bible too. a book created from documents with roman beliefs built in so a ruler could bolster his army.
 
2010-01-26 04:42:23 PM
The Icelander: The difference is that Richard Dawkins isn't flying into Port au Prince with a pallet full of his books. That's why it looks like we're not doing anything we're not a bunch of self-important, predatory jackasses.

FTFY
 
2010-01-26 04:56:24 PM
really weird, all those pictures of Travolta's son look like the son is either wearing heavy makeup, or has been airbrushed.
 
2010-01-26 05:04:35 PM
What's the matter with me, Haiti, what's the matter with you?
 
2010-01-26 05:08:06 PM
i can think of another religion who believes all medicine is bad and belief alone can cure anything.

scientology on the other hand is not anti medicine. they just have beliefs that certain fields are a bunch of crock and refuse to seek those doctors.
 
2010-01-26 05:13:12 PM
Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??
 
2010-01-26 05:17:12 PM
Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??



Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.
 
2010-01-26 05:17:37 PM
Who covered the carbon footprint for his private airliner? These douchebags showing up is really akin to Christian missionaries showing up to exploit a bad situations. Must be because scienetology is under attack in France, but doenst France support Haiti in some ways? Hmmmmm
 
2010-01-26 05:29:16 PM
Adjective Bird Whiskey 2010-01-26 10:11:35 AM I don't get it.
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Submitter is a trolling asshole.
 
2010-01-26 05:30:05 PM
Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.


I read that in a dandy London voice. That made it extra funny.
 
2010-01-26 05:39:58 PM
Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.


Tell that to bill pullman, ala serpent and the rainbow..
 
2010-01-26 05:43:03 PM
ddam: BubbaWilkins: Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.

Agreed. This is nothing but a photo-op and image boosting for Co$.

The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

When the death tally due to Co$ catches up to the death tally of the Catholic church during... let's say the Inquisition (cuz there's no way in hell they'll catch up to the overall death tally due to the Catholic church overall) you'll have a point.


Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.
 
2010-01-26 05:46:32 PM
hardinparamedic: Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.


Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. We know.
 
2010-01-26 05:47:59 PM
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2010-01-26 05:53:07 PM
Somaticasual: Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.

Tell that to bill pullman, ala serpent and the rainbow..


And the less said about Voodoo Dick, the better.
 
2010-01-26 06:00:18 PM
Epicedion: hardinparamedic: Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.

Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. We know.


Here. let me fix that for you.

Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. People using the feverent and disadvantaged by manipulating their beliefs have killed hundreds of millions through history.

Religion in itsself isn't an evil thing - it's the people who manipulate others through it that are. And again, the persecution of people based on religious beliefs by secular OR religious authorities have killed more people than religion ever has.
 
2010-01-26 06:03:55 PM
He's just a creep with big jowls and bad gametes.
 
2010-01-26 06:11:08 PM
(Goes to look up "gametes" to see if he's supposed to have them, and if so, how many)
 
2010-01-26 06:13:58 PM
Gametes: Nope, don't have any since the surgery, and thank Buddha for that.
 
2010-01-26 06:14:57 PM
hardinparamedic: Religion in itsself isn't an evil thing - it's the people who manipulate others through it that are. And again, the persecution of people based on religious beliefs by secular OR religious authorities have killed more people than religion ever has.

Belief informs actions. If you believe, for whatever reason (God told you to, Jews are ruining your country, it is your divine right, it is your nation's right to dominate all others, etc), it is your place to kill or otherwise harm other people, then your belief causes evil.

People love to parade around Hitler, Stalin, and Mao in particular to discredit atheism, as if those three carried out any of their actions under the banner of promoting anything other than their own nationalistic and personal power.

No one says "I don't believe in unicorns, so I'm going to go over and kill all those people in that nation that has all those things I want for my nation." That's absurd.

So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.
 
2010-01-26 06:23:01 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Snarfangel: Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals?

What would they pave it with? Good intentions?


haha I guess we gotta wait for the gold paved type,for the hereafter then.
 
2010-01-26 06:34:53 PM
So what if he carted a few of his co$ doctors to Haiti? He did bring in a lot of aid, perhaps not as much as other cargo planes, but it is better than sitting home doing nothing like most of us.

Met John on a set once, very nice, he even held my 4 month old daughter.

/nuff
 
2010-01-26 06:50:45 PM
Epicedion: So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.

To be fair, Zs are dead already.

\It's the Qs you've got to look out for
\\They don't freeze
 
2010-01-26 07:24:32 PM
1. American authorities delay aid for days while moving in military personnel and armaments. Check.

2. American celebrities fly in for photo-ops in twee rowboats with bottled water or 707s full of old army rations, same difference. Check.

3. Native-born celebrities start banging the drums for their own charities, some more, some less effectively and honestly. Check.

4. Whack-a-tune American religious nutters blame the victims and point to devil-worship, ho-mo-sex-uals, etc. Check.

Four strikes, you're out!

WE HAVE KATRINA!

Now if we could only move the disaster to, oh, let's say, Tampa. No, wait Phoenix. I want to see how John McCain comports himself in a state of emergency in his base.

And how he reacts to losing one of his many houses--will he make a better showing than Trent Lott?

OK.

All Americans out of Haiti!

Please feel free to shoot a couple of French nationals on the way out. If you can find any Germans or Brits, shoot them too.

Either that or learn to trust poor black people a little bit more. Send in the guns WITH the butter, rather than instead of.

Ka-treeee-na! Ka-treeee-na! Ka-treeee-na! Hollywood actors and right wing loons, come out and play!
 
2010-01-26 07:31:42 PM
They have solar bibles and scientology people heading there. Who wants to help me send Church of the Subgenius Legally Ordained Minister Kits to Haiti? Bob needs to be represented!

www.subgenius.com
 
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