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(ABC News)   John Travolta flies his private jet to Haiti, carrying the supplies the Haitians REALLY need: Scientology ministers, E-meters and all the copies of "Dianetics" they could ever want   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2010-01-26 02:42:47 PM  

Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.
 
2010-01-26 02:43:27 PM  

Brainsick: "You wanna shake hands with the devil, that's fine with me, I just wanna make sure you do it in Hell."


Is the black guy in this pic, Rembrandt Brown from the television show Sliders?

Sure looks a hell of a lot like him...
 
2010-01-26 02:43:32 PM  
So, let me get this straight... Travolta flew his own jet to Haiti bringing relief to the starving masses, took some CoS ministers out of the US, left them there, and then flew back to Florida and some people are complaining?!?!

Hero tag urgently needed.
 
2010-01-26 02:43:46 PM  

Click Click D'oh: ddam:
Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?

Last picture I saw of the ramp was C-17s, C-130s, a 747 and an AN-124. All of which have significantly more capacity than the six tons Travolta landed.

Even the C-130s carry in three times what Travolta did, and you can park two of them in the same foot print of his 707.. which means an effective lift of six times what he carried.

Here's how to be a hero with a jet. British Airways pulled a 747 from passenger service and loaded it completely with about fifty tons of disaster supplies. They filled up the baggage area deck and piled things in the passenger seats so they could get as much on the plane as possible. Then, a crew composed entirely of volunteers took it to Haiti. When they got there they unloaded the cargo deck but found that there wasn't any equipment left that could unload the passenger deck. BA management told them to pop the emergency slides (which will cost tens of thousand of dollars to replace) and they slid everything out of the plane.


You're not gonna get me to disagree with you. Probably all those planes allowed to land are bigger than the one used by Travolta and the only reason he was allowed to land was because of his name. I see this as a publicity stunt and nothing else. There are many people that want to help Haiti and a few of them have a lot of money that they are willing to give, Travolta being one of them. But when those rich folk start attaching strings (bringing Co$ ministers) along with a bad feeling about their true motivation behind their deeds.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:01 PM  
FTA;

"All the patients are happy with the technique," said Sylvie. "But some doctors don't like the yellow T-shirts. It's a color thing," she insisted.

No, they just don't like you farging iceholes getting in the way of real medical care with your "touch" technique for healing. Morons.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:11 PM  

Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?


This thread was over after the second post, but nobody noticed.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:31 PM  
Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:56 PM  
What a moran. I only fly my 707 to islands with hot biatches & bottomless drinks on the beaches.
 
2010-01-26 02:46:16 PM  

ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.


PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.
 
2010-01-26 02:46:47 PM  

Jeff73: But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.


I've thought about that quite a bit. Considering how universally reviled they are around here, I can't help but wonder if there are some sort of stealth Scientologists who very carefully try to interject positive things about their cult, knowing that if they get called out they'll lose all credibility.

I wonder...

SnakeMan: Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?


/unrelated
 
2010-01-26 02:47:49 PM  

Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.



There is one. Or was one at least. It was a dude and he had a Scientology tattoo. Anyone else remember that guy?
 
2010-01-26 02:48:16 PM  

She comes in colors everywhere: Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.


The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The whole secrecy thing, learning body control, etc. It's Church of All Worlds with different phlebotinum.
 
2010-01-26 02:48:31 PM  

Latinwolf: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.


WTF does that mean? Is the subby as rich as Travolta? Does the subby own a freaking 707? Seriously, get off your high horse and take your celebrity worship somewhere else.
 
2010-01-26 02:49:18 PM  

Brainsick: ddam: shiat, as if an earthquake is not enough now the Haitian people have to read Battlefield Earth?

Worse. They have to WATCH Battlefield earth...

/*shudder*


They got solar powered TVs and VCRs?
 
2010-01-26 02:50:10 PM  

DrewFL: So that makes it OK? These people are using mysticism to influence people who are actually un/misinformed enough to believe it. Healing touch? Give me a break. Those poor Haitians don't stand a chance against this level of mystical nonsense. They still use witch doctors.


Hey, I don't like this whole thing either (though I wonder how much actual harm would result from switching one goofy set of mystical beliefs for another). But if people have a problem with this, I certainly hope they have the same problem with other religious missionary disaster response efforts. Which are not exactly rare.
 
2010-01-26 02:50:45 PM  

Latinwolf: PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever can afford to do.


FTFY.

/don't credit to sensitivity what can be attributed to wealth
 
2010-01-26 02:51:02 PM  

ddam:
If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.


He did.

Travolta and Preston returned to Florida as soon as their supplies and passengers were unloaded.

I don't give a damn about their publicity stunt or whatever. But they flew his shiat down there, unloaded it, and left.

Maybe, just maybe, since the guy is a pilot, and in Florida, he just thought, I should fly some stuff down there. I have to assume that either he or the church bought the MREs too.
 
2010-01-26 02:52:09 PM  
Dianetics makes for good kindling. So I guess it's not so bad.
 
2010-01-26 02:53:16 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?


The mafias are more open minded and allow homosexuals?
 
2010-01-26 02:53:20 PM  

IrateShadow: I don't understand why cos always has to send people out to these things. At the core of their religion is that the removal of thetans allows them to reach their true potential and manipulate the world around them with pure will.

If this were the case, why would they need planes? Couldn't they just teleport there? And why even go down there? Couldn't they just will the area into being rebuilt and even more prosperous than it was before?


www-gte.larc.nasa.gov

They'd use the spacecraft which look exactly like DC-8's, except their are rockets instead of jet engines.
 
2010-01-26 02:53:39 PM  

Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.


^this
 
2010-01-26 02:54:00 PM  

Cagey B: Hey, I don't like this whole thing either (though I wonder how much actual harm would result from switching one goofy set of mystical beliefs for another). But if people have a problem with this, I certainly hope they have the same problem with other religious missionary disaster response efforts. Which are not exactly rare.


I'm with you to some extent...but I don't think catholic missionaries are down there laying hands and professing the power of the holy spirit to heal. Also, the Menonites rebuilt my mother's house after Katrina for free, so I can't say enough good things about them. If religious groups are helping people then fine, but don't prey on ignorant, traumatized people in a time of need with mystical mumbo-jumbo.
 
2010-01-26 02:54:04 PM  

DeadZone: Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.


haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

on my way home from picking up my daughter i almost took a cart full of em out in a freak blizzard that happened in upperstate new york. i have one question tho. what the hell where they doing out a 3am in the first place in a blizzard?
 
2010-01-26 02:54:12 PM  

Cagey B: brap: I will convert to anything JUST GET THIS FREAKING RUBBLE OFF OF ME!

And thus was born the Seventh Day Hamburglarists.


ROFL
 
2010-01-26 02:54:14 PM  

cryinoutloud: ddam:
If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.

He did.

Travolta and Preston returned to Florida as soon as their supplies and passengers were unloaded.

I don't give a damn about their publicity stunt or whatever. But they flew his shiat down there, unloaded it, and left.

Maybe, just maybe, since the guy is a pilot, and in Florida, he just thought, I should fly some stuff down there. I have to assume that either he or the church bought the MREs too.


If those passangers are not medically certified professionals then they have no reason to be there at this moment. They can go back in 12 months if they wanna do some "good" once the situation there is stabilized (if not improved).
 
2010-01-26 02:55:52 PM  

Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.


Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?
 
2010-01-26 02:55:54 PM  

Snarfangel: Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

I thought Tom Cruise was the gay Scientologist.


The rumors about Travolta date back to just after "Saturday Night Fever" came out in the late 1970's.
 
2010-01-26 02:57:29 PM  

Latinwolf: Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

True they did send "ministers" and last week they (Scientolists) had went to Haiti but were turned away from by the U.S. Military. Why, I don't know.

 
2010-01-26 02:59:04 PM  
Whoever allowed a religious expedition with a token amount of aid to jump the landing queue should be fired / court marshaled.

These people need professionals and real quantities of aid ... not publicity stunts.

If he did this after the back-log was cleared then he would have still been another scumbag cult preying on the vulnerable, but at least his supplies might have helped.
 
2010-01-26 02:59:06 PM  
How about some real aid?

Like, umm, solar powered bibles?
 
2010-01-26 02:59:10 PM  

nekom: jebusfreak: Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

Actually, it's a simple whetstone bridge, it measures the resistance between the two cans attached to wires. At best it's a very crude lie detector of sorts, or maybe something along the lines of one of those `love tester' machines you see in malls. At worst it's absolutely nothing whatsoever. It certainly seems to have no practical use.

Proper usage of an e-meter:


I believe in the photo they are testing the Flying Spaghetti Monster...his noodly appendage lived on to fight the thetan mindbots...
 
2010-01-26 02:59:22 PM  

rigamrts: haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.


Actually, I don't know about the amish, but the Menonites dress the same but they all have cell phones. There were a bunch of them at the job site in amish garb, talking on cell phones. Odd looking to say the least.
 
2010-01-26 03:01:00 PM  
As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.
 
2010-01-26 03:01:13 PM  
Scientology.........vodoo.......whats the difference
 
2010-01-26 03:01:53 PM  
If people are on huge lists to get in how in the hell did he do it...

/They are EVERYWHERE aren't they....
 
2010-01-26 03:02:04 PM  
FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital...

Hey, awesome. Hopefully the aid gets to the peopl--

...along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

Oh, fark you, you brainwashed jerk.
 
2010-01-26 03:02:15 PM  
The fault is allowing him to take up a landing slot.

Yes people, there is a huge queue of planes trying to get in with /real/ help, and he took a slot.
 
2010-01-26 03:02:23 PM  

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Why thank you, Poe.
 
2010-01-26 03:03:15 PM  

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Please tell me where we can legally get these documents to read -- without spending a fortune to do so.
 
2010-01-26 03:05:03 PM  
It's not about Haiti. IT'S ABOUT TERRISTS!
 
2010-01-26 03:05:40 PM  

amanogowa: Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?



Sure, please share. I enjoy hearing bullshiat.

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.



Holy fark, one exists!
 
2010-01-26 03:06:06 PM  

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


I want you to defend your holiest book.

And by that, I mean Battlefield Earth.
 
2010-01-26 03:10:34 PM  

Jeff73: amanogowa: Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?


Sure, please share. I enjoy hearing bullshiat.

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Holy fark, one exists!


I think you found your own answer.

These nutters used to post with much greater frequency, but they are still around.
 
2010-01-26 03:10:35 PM  

Mighty Whitey: Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?

This thread was over after the second post, but nobody noticed.



I'm tryin', man

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.


sattlers.org

So apparently Travolta is bringing prosthetic foreheads for their real heads.
 
2010-01-26 03:11:06 PM  

beoswulf: Diogenes: Headso:
It doesn't take much, even FSM apastates have done more to help than the wealthy, oil-drenched Muslim countries which barely register on the aid contribution ranks.


Came for the pastafarian refrence, leaving happy. At least pastafarians could come in thier pirate ships and wouldn't have to take up valuable flight line space.
 
2010-01-26 03:12:20 PM  

DeadZone: Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.


It just might be that rejection thing that's keeping them away.
 
2010-01-26 03:12:50 PM  

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Wow-wee!* A real Scientologist on Fark. I would love to hear how you've benefited from Scientology, and how much money you had to contribute.

\* said in a Toki Wartooth voice
 
2010-01-26 03:13:27 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Failmitter just doesn't understand. It's like when you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only one who can really help...


this made me giggle.
 
2010-01-26 03:14:01 PM  
Its more than any of you cheap bastards did, but you'll find a reason to mock. Did subby not see the part about the military rations? Personally, if you're bringing food to somewhere like Haiti in a freaking jet, you can bring whoever the hell you want, including scientologists, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Buddah himself and all the inhabitants of of Arcturus. The folks are hurting enough, who cares who passes out aid.

At least he's doing something.

And before you pull the mockery guns out, yes, I donated clothes and money already to the Haiti Relief fund here. Now feel free to mock.
 
2010-01-26 03:15:27 PM  

scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


it's not that i have a disdain for Scientology. it's the few at top that distort Scientology for monitary gains. this happens in all religions. i'm probably one of few who understand what some of teachings of Scientology. the thing is if your going to take pot shots at a religion for fun haha's you should do some reserch on what they truly believe rather pointing out e readers and such. it just makes people sound uneducated when they do.
 
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