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(ABC)   John Travolta flies his private jet to Haiti, carrying the supplies the Haitians REALLY need: Scientology ministers, E-meters and all the copies of "Dianetics" they could ever want   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 354
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2010-01-26 02:16:27 PM
Nobler than Oedipus, Clairvoyant and toothless. Foreplay with no friends, premature until the end!


I've got a secret, babbling senseless, noone will ever know!


Grease is the word, is the word, that you heard.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:32 PM
Every time a celebrity champions Scientology, a part of me commits suicide.

/Good job with the food and supplies though
 
2010-01-26 02:16:44 PM
Six tons of supplies is pretty derisory. It probably cost more to fuel and fly the jet than it cost in MREs. It sounds more like a lame excuse to use the disaster as a publicity opportunity. I hope the UN and other charities tell them exactly where to go if they interfere with legitimate operations.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:55 PM
ddam: Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.

Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Why don't you just face it: Haiti is last week's news. The world has moved on to the next disaster which is Leno back on The Tonight Show.


Leno isn't back on the Tonight show yet, yesterday's Tonight show was a Conan rerun from last year.

I believe NBC has said that Leno will take back the Tonight Show after the Winter Olympics in February.
 
2010-01-26 02:17:37 PM
Haiti should ban proselytizing. It would solve many of their current and ongoing problems.
 
2010-01-26 02:17:39 PM
Oh thank Xenu the Co$ is finally on the scene! I was worried the Haitian people would lose this valuable opportunity to learn dianetics.

Tomorrow's news...

Haitian people demand Travolta leave Haiti because Scientology is worse that the quake. "No thanks John, we got this."
 
2010-01-26 02:17:54 PM
Click Click D'oh: ddam: Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Well, the article did state that there are 800 planes waiting for a landing slot...


Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?

As I stated before, he did a good deed but he made it (or the Co$)into a PR stunt which could delay other aid to that country.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:45 PM
Shostie: SnakeMan: Not a Scientologist, just can't stand to see a guy get so much crap for doing something nice.

The food and water is a nice gesture. They are to be commended for it.

However, as mentioned earlier in the thread, they're also bringing their own brand of faith-healing to Haiti. This is not good, since they're not too far off from Benny Hinn in their medical knowledge.


Point well taken, but I would hope that, seeing as how the military is pretty much in charge of everything, any attempts by the Scientologists to nose their way into the Haitians' health care would be shut down.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:49 PM
jebusfreak: Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

But will it detect explosives?
 
2010-01-26 02:18:49 PM
SnakeMan: By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

Kind of like you just did.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:57 PM
"The aid group Doctors Without Borders has complained that the flight scheduling priorities of U.S. military controllers running the airport delayed the arrival of field hospitals, resulting in some deaths."

Some deaths, eh? STFU & GBTW

Don't get all MADD out-of-control - stick to your mission.
 
2010-01-26 02:19:53 PM
J.Garcia'sRightMiddleFinger: SnakeMan: By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

Kind of like you just did.


I didn't leave out information, I added to it. I added information that Subby left out. Please pay attention.
 
2010-01-26 02:21:19 PM
SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?


Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.
 
2010-01-26 02:21:26 PM
Submitter, doesn't know how to use a comma, makes the headline read like William Shatner
 
2010-01-26 02:21:36 PM
drxym: Six tons of supplies is pretty derisory. It probably cost more to fuel and fly the jet than it cost in MREs. It sounds more like an lame excuse to use the disaster as a publicity opportunity. I hope the UN and other charities tell them exactly where to go if they interfere with legitimate operations attempt to assauge his guilt over the death of his son.



Not saying that he is guilty but the feeling is there after the death of a child.
 
2010-01-26 02:21:40 PM
So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.
 
2010-01-26 02:22:45 PM
ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.


FTFM
 
2010-01-26 02:23:28 PM
BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?
 
2010-01-26 02:23:38 PM
ddam: Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases

I'm confused, isn't that the point I'm making?
 
2010-01-26 02:23:39 PM
Don't be hatin' on Travolta, he's helpin' the Haitians stayin alive!
 
2010-01-26 02:24:21 PM
ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM


OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
2010-01-26 02:25:04 PM
Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

I thought Tom Cruise was the gay Scientologist.
 
2010-01-26 02:25:11 PM
Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.


True they did send "ministers" and last week they (Scientolists) had went to Haiti but were turned away from the U.S. Military, why I don't know.
 
2010-01-26 02:26:17 PM
A doomy curse upon the infrastructure of the Scientological movement, allow their pens to always be dry and their printers out of ink, and may the cautious and loving gods give all their ministers herpes and turn their flocks away like pamphlets in the wind.
 
2010-01-26 02:26:58 PM
bubbaprog: H31N0US: What the hell does the CoS want with Haiti? There is no money there.

They've been actively seeking to curry favor in less-favorable locations in order to prepare for the day they get kicked out of the U.S. -- they've already been booted from most nations in Europe, so this is just laying the groundwork for a new headquarters in whatever country will put up with them.


Hmm. I hear bahrain puts up with crazy white people.. Actually that would be a great fit.
 
2010-01-26 02:28:38 PM
ah-oh, the Republicans found another do gooder to whine about....


the horror
the horror.
 
2010-01-26 02:28:46 PM
SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.


I should have clarified that you're wrong in this particular situation. If it's literally a matter of life and death, if you'll starve unless you accept someone's help, then you'll take it from anyone. And I honestly doubt, even with those 800 planes, that the Haitians aren't short on aid. I suspect that this disaster and all its effects are bigger than you think.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:09 PM
OTII 1: Get the case gains file, the engram monitor, and the hat.
OTII 2: And get the machine that goes "PING!"
OTII 1: And get the most expensive machine in case the Scientologist comes.

///Adapting Monty Python quotes for good, not evil
 
2010-01-26 02:30:21 PM
ddam: SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.


Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:25 PM
Cagey B: And thus was born the Seventh Day Hamburglarists.

I like you.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:41 PM
SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.


If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.

Hell, if the Co$ wanted to do some real good they would station their personal luxury cruise liner that's off Hilton Head in Haiti for 12 months and house some people. That would be a whole lot more helpful than this PR stunt.
 
2010-01-26 02:31:19 PM
In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, Catholic Charities was distributing meals. The Lutherans were helping gut and re-build houses. Other various religions, whether it be Christian, Jewish, or Muslim were here helping people get the help they needed. The Scientologists were down here giving out stress tests. Yes, stress tests.
 
2010-01-26 02:32:34 PM
Shostie: gorgor: He's going to put rubber hoses up their noses.

Wow. gorgor kickin' it old-school.

/signed, Shostie's muttah


Love means never having to hear 'I'm pregnant'.
 
2010-01-26 02:33:57 PM
at least he's actually sending supplies. i find the rest no more img1.fark.net than the christian groups that are doing the same thing
 
2010-01-26 02:34:26 PM
You know what would be hilarious? (and I'm being totally ironic about this!) if Scientology actually caught on in Haiti, and somehow the self-help principles of the cult actually changed the culture for the better, and wound up displacing Christianity and Voodoo as the official religion of that Island. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Haitians actually wound up being the only people on earth that Scientology could actually help, and that their part of the Island wound up becoming a stronghold of the "religion"? And they actually finally got their act together and did something with themselves? The Scientologists could finally have a real paradise for a home, and finally leave the rest of the damned planet alone.

But I sincerely doubt it. Still, it would be amusing to me, as a thorn in the side of every other major organized religion that has ever failed to deliver real hope or change for that hell hole.
 
2010-01-26 02:34:45 PM
SnakeMan:
The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?


The problem isn't that there isn't aid. The problem is there isn't enough landing slots for all the aircraft that want to come to land.

If Travolta had really wanted to be useful he could've
(a)flown in real medical people instead of scientology nuts
(b)rented a C-130 and moved 22 tons of cargo instead of 6.

Sure every little bit helps, but not when his "every little bit" knocks somebody's more important or larger little bit out of the pattern.
The USAF controllers should've diverted his ass.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:03 PM
...and SIX TONS OF FOOD! I haven't seen him on TV talking about it, instead he took action and did it. He's a good dude.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:06 PM
Can he get a Royale with Cheese in Port-au-Prince?
 
2010-01-26 02:35:37 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?


Neckerchiefs.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:53 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


They need cannon fodder, the poor had always been used for that if not anything else.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:53 PM
thespindrifter: You know what would be hilarious? (and I'm being totally ironic about this!) if Scientology actually caught on in Haiti, and somehow the self-help principles of the cult actually changed the culture for the better, and wound up displacing Christianity and Voodoo as the official religion of that Island. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Haitians actually wound up being the only people on earth that Scientology could actually help, and that their part of the Island wound up becoming a stronghold of the "religion"? And they actually finally got their act together and did something with themselves? The Scientologists could finally have a real paradise for a home, and finally leave the rest of the damned planet alone.

But I sincerely doubt it. Still, it would be amusing to me, as a thorn in the side of every other major organized religion that has ever failed to deliver real hope or change for that hell hole.


If they started worshipping John Frum Englewood, that would indeed be interesting.
 
2010-01-26 02:36:02 PM
Travolta was always the the figurehead of scientology.

Tom's asshatery has was a big facepalm for Scientolists across the globe.

but i used to live in cali where Scientolists are like roaches.

it's a real big money laundring scam but the people who believe are really true.

it's a muti billion dollar company disquised as a chruch.
 
2010-01-26 02:36:18 PM
Lionel Mandrake:
I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


The Jehova's Witnesses have already sent help to Haiti.

I so want to see a video of a JW / CoS confrontation
 
2010-01-26 02:37:18 PM
SnakeMan: SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I should have clarified that you're wrong in this particular situation. If it's literally a matter of life and death, if you'll starve unless you accept someone's help, then you'll take it from anyone. And I honestly doubt, even with those 800 planes, that the Haitians aren't short on aid. I suspect that this disaster and all its effects are bigger than you think.


Now you're starting to piss me off. Where was Travolta and the Co$ before the earthquake as it pertains to Haiti? That country has been a living disaster for the past 20 years at least. Was Travolta sending food and medicine during all those years he was denying his son the proper care because his chuch told him that pills are bad? Was the Co$ hosting fund raising events to help the people of Haiti before this? Hell no and you can bet your ass that as soon as the short attention span of the world turns away from Haiti they'll be back on the plane and back home cuz the people of Haiti have no money to give to that organization.
 
2010-01-26 02:37:55 PM
ddam:
Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?


Last picture I saw of the ramp was C-17s, C-130s, a 747 and an AN-124. All of which have significantly more capacity than the six tons Travolta landed.

Even the C-130s carry in three times what Travolta did, and you can park two of them in the same foot print of his 707.. which means an effective lift of six times what he carried.

Here's how to be a hero with a jet. British Airways pulled a 747 from passenger service and loaded it completely with about fifty tons of disaster supplies. They filled up the baggage area deck and piled things in the passenger seats so they could get as much on the plane as possible. Then, a crew composed entirely of volunteers took it to Haiti. When they got there they unloaded the cargo deck but found that there wasn't any equipment left that could unload the passenger deck. BA management told them to pop the emergency slides (which will cost tens of thousand of dollars to replace) and they slid everything out of the plane.
 
2010-01-26 02:38:38 PM
flamingboard: somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.

You really should STFU (new window) and take your idiocy elsewhere. Hate on the mormons all you want but 9 times outa 10 they are first on the scene helping with food, water and the neccesities. (new window)
 
2010-01-26 02:39:15 PM
Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

www.celebritysmackblog.com
 
2010-01-26 02:39:17 PM
The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.
 
2010-01-26 02:39:22 PM
Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?

scheirmad.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-01-26 02:39:27 PM
ddam: Now you're starting to piss me off. Where was Travolta and the Co$ before the earthquake as it pertains to Haiti?

Well there weren't any TV cameras there before the earthquake. Sheesh.
 
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