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(ABC)   John Travolta flies his private jet to Haiti, carrying the supplies the Haitians REALLY need: Scientology ministers, E-meters and all the copies of "Dianetics" they could ever want   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 351
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2010-01-26 10:07:37 AM  
I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.
 
2010-01-26 10:09:27 AM  
Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?
 
2010-01-26 10:11:35 AM  
I don't get it.
 
2010-01-26 10:15:03 AM  
Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.
 
2010-01-26 10:16:26 AM  
Diogenes: but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

They are just following an existing template.
 
2010-01-26 10:18:55 AM  
Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

Well..

This is what they do when they get there. Seriously.

The headline, sadly, isn't far off.

Diogenes: What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Exactly.
 
2010-01-26 10:22:31 AM  
Wait a minute, didn't travolta defect from scientology not long ago?

//wonders what blackmail material they had on him..
 
2010-01-26 10:33:37 AM  
I don't understand why cos always has to send people out to these things. At the core of their religion is that the removal of thetans allows them to reach their true potential and manipulate the world around them with pure will.

If this were the case, why would they need planes? Couldn't they just teleport there? And why even go down there? Couldn't they just will the area into being rebuilt and even more prosperous than it was before?
 
2010-01-26 10:42:07 AM  
IrateShadow: Couldn't they just teleport there?

Of course, they could. The just need the planes to bring the supplies.
 
2010-01-26 10:43:41 AM  
Diogenes: Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?
 
2010-01-26 10:44:46 AM  
By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.
 
2010-01-26 10:46:34 AM  
Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

A severely misplaced priority.
 
2010-01-26 10:49:04 AM  
Diogenes: Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

A severely misplaced priority.


i think it's probably the right priority, considering how impractical and silly looking it would be to attach wind turbines to bibles.
 
2010-01-26 10:49:18 AM  
Snarfangel: By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.

Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.
 
2010-01-26 10:49:26 AM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: IrateShadow: Couldn't they just teleport there?

Of course, they could. The just need the planes to bring the supplies.


No one expects the Haitian expedition! Our chief weapon is supplies...supplies and beer...beer and supplies.... Our two weapons are beer and supplies...and ruthless efficiency...
 
2010-01-26 10:52:45 AM  
thomps: Diogenes: Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

A severely misplaced priority.

i think it's probably the right priority, considering how impractical and silly looking it would be to attach wind turbines to bibles.


Maybe for Haiti they should consider geo-kinetic.

/too soon?
 
2010-01-26 10:58:35 AM  
Diogenes: thomps: Diogenes: Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

A severely misplaced priority.

i think it's probably the right priority, considering how impractical and silly looking it would be to attach wind turbines to bibles.

Maybe for Haiti they should consider geo-kinetic.

/too soon?


i was going to make a joke about there not being any buildings around to block air flow to the wind turbines, but i think it's probably in better taste to get back to making fun of scientologists and their devious plan to divert food and supplies from our troops.
 
2010-01-26 11:08:49 AM  
jebusfreak: Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

Actually, it's a simple whetstone bridge, it measures the resistance between the two cans attached to wires. At best it's a very crude lie detector of sorts, or maybe something along the lines of one of those `love tester' machines you see in malls. At worst it's absolutely nothing whatsoever. It certainly seems to have no practical use.

Proper usage of an e-meter:
img219.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-26 11:11:50 AM  
I am certainly not going to stand up for Scientologists, but, lets assume they are not bringing e-meters, copies of Dianetics, etc, and just bringing people to truly help, I don't see that being any different from the probably 100s of Xtian Churches and organiations doing the same thing (and not dropping off Bibles at the same time either I'd hope).
 
2010-01-26 11:14:22 AM  
Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.
 
2010-01-26 11:15:44 AM  
Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


i might just be a cynic, but i would almost guarantee that every single group that they deploy comes complete with at least one cameraman
 
2010-01-26 11:16:31 AM  
Religious organizations have never before used relief efforts as an opportunity to proselytize.
 
2010-01-26 11:18:12 AM  
Yes, but are their copies of Dianetics solar powered?
 
2010-01-26 11:18:54 AM  
ToxicMunkee: Yes, but are their copies of Dianetics solar powered?

Solar power not necessary. They're powered by L ron hubbard's belated ego alone..
 
2010-01-26 11:21:43 AM  
Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?
 
2010-01-26 11:21:57 AM  
Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.


they'll provide the same quality medical and psychiatric care that they did for Travolta's son?
 
2010-01-26 11:23:40 AM  
Lionel Mandrake: I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


Think of it like a wealth-trap, and "the noble cause of helping poor people" is the bait. The rich people come sniffing around for a place to offload their otherwise inflated tax bracket, they reach for that noble cause of yours, and SNAP! Profit!
 
2010-01-26 11:26:34 AM  
Could it be worse than the Voodoo and the Catholicism already there?

//I think ejecting the thetans could be seen as a threat to the Loa.
 
2010-01-26 11:27:18 AM  
Cagey B: Religious organizations have never before used relief efforts as an opportunity to proselytize.

Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Lionel Mandrake: I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Exactly. What a sick organization.
 
2010-01-26 11:31:20 AM  
the_be_sharps: Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.
 
2010-01-26 11:31:31 AM  
I will convert to anything JUST GET THIS FREAKING RUBBLE OFF OF ME!
 
2010-01-26 11:33:18 AM  
brap: I will convert to anything JUST GET THIS FREAKING RUBBLE OFF OF ME!

And thus was born the Seventh Day Hamburglarists.
 
2010-01-26 11:39:16 AM  
Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

Dumb, but not as dumb as saying that me touching someone's forehead would cure someone to the point of not requiring an amputation anymore.
 
2010-01-26 11:42:10 AM  
I'm certain the Scientologist ministers will uncover the truth in Haiti that the earthquake was caused by abusive psychiatrists.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-01-26 11:44:58 AM  
Cagey B: the_be_sharps: Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.


Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals? It would probably help its followers a lot more than a pretty building.

And if not, at least they could get the hell out of town really quickly.
 
2010-01-26 12:00:01 PM  
Snarfangel: Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals?

What would they pave it with? Good intentions?
 
2010-01-26 12:07:03 PM  
He's going to help all those children who got their faces off.
 
2010-01-26 12:10:48 PM  
Meh, CoS, Christians, {insert_religion}, etc. All the farking same. The leaders take advantage of followers wanting to help people in need to spread their "religion" whether they are complicit or not. Why do you think religious groups come out en-masse during times of crisis.
 
2010-01-26 12:54:55 PM  
CtrlAltDelete: This is what they do when they get there. Seriously.

Hey, the President of Gambia says he cures AIDS with an herbal mixture. It's all in the mind. The guy who lost feeling in his legs realized that he felt them AFTER seeing the Scientologist, and associated the "cure." with that He should see a psychiatrist clear.

/when do the snake handlers arrive to aid the Haitians?
 
2010-01-26 01:33:12 PM  
Somaticasual: wonders what blackmail material they had on him..

That's the underlying purpose of the "auditing" process. To gather blackmailable information. similar to the catholic confessional.
 
2010-01-26 01:57:14 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Snarfangel: Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals?

What would they pave it with? Good intentions?


Satanism?
 
2010-01-26 01:57:48 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Snarfangel: Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals?

What would they pave it with? Good intentions?


*snert*
 
2010-01-26 01:57:54 PM  
Somaticasual: Wait a minute, didn't travolta defect from scientology not long ago?

//wonders what blackmail material they had on him..


they probably killed his son. what we heard in the news was just the cover-up.
 
Xai
2010-01-26 01:58:34 PM  
Scientology Brainwashes
 
2010-01-26 01:58:42 PM  
I don't care what religion he is, good for him, I am sure the people of Haiti appreciate the effort.

COS is just another cult, like the Catholics, only newer.
 
2010-01-26 01:59:06 PM  
jebusfreak: Snarfangel: By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.

Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.


It goes bing when there's stuff? Sounds like a timey wimey detector!

www.drafthouse.com

Approves!
 
2010-01-26 01:59:33 PM  
I wonder if he will be burned at the stake as a heretic.
 
2010-01-26 01:59:37 PM  
Did they let them land? If I were the CO, i would have turned them away as a distraction.
 
2010-01-26 01:59:42 PM  
He's going to put rubber hoses up their noses.
 
2010-01-26 01:59:57 PM  
I am sure Travolta's heart is in the right place. But the space and time he took up on the runway would probably been better used by international relief cargo planes.

From what I understand, the gating factor is airport space and runway allocation.

But you gotta hand it to him, he is trying to help.
 
2010-01-26 02:00:09 PM  
Headso: Diogenes: but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

They are just following an existing template.


Yup, used by every single other organization with an agenda. See: The Bush White House and their stupid rule about funding abortions in foreign counties.
 
2010-01-26 02:00:13 PM  
shiat, as if an earthquake is not enough now the Haitian people have to read Battlefield Earth?
 
2010-01-26 02:00:39 PM  
Headso: Diogenes: but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

They are just following an existing template.


This.

See also "Solar powered bibles instead of food."
 
2010-01-26 02:01:00 PM  
It's a farking travesty that DWB is getting wait-listed for airport slots for a shipment of quacks.
 
2010-01-26 02:01:48 PM  
Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.
 
2010-01-26 02:02:58 PM  
thomps: i think it's probably the right priority, considering how impractical and silly looking it would be to attach wind turbines to bibles.

They're called Preachers.
 
2010-01-26 02:03:05 PM  
This just in: subby is a farking idiot.

Travolta brought in 6 tons of supplies and a few Scientology corporate executives...I mean...ministers.

Good on ya John for the supplies.
 
2010-01-26 02:03:23 PM  
Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.



I knew his dopey plane was displacing a more efficient transport, but I didn't have the stats.

/hat tip
 
2010-01-26 02:03:49 PM  
Talon: What are your thoughts on solar powered bibles?

You know... I know these things exist but there is a nugget of good idea in there.

How about a Bible, like the actual book, with a solar cell attached and the capability of providing power to recharge a flashlight or power a small hot plate or something to cook or boil water...

I wonder if that's even possible...

Then again, if you can have the solar cell, why not just distribute them without the Bible?
 
2010-01-26 02:04:12 PM  
Diogenes: Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

Christians beat him to it.
 
2010-01-26 02:04:28 PM  
Don't worry, when they try and use those e-meters, the Haitians will just smash them with their solar-powered bibles.
 
2010-01-26 02:04:30 PM  
Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.


Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Why don't you just face it: Haiti is last week's news. The world has moved on to the next disaster which is Leno back on The Tonight Show.
 
2010-01-26 02:04:33 PM  
He is helping those who are stayin' alive.
stayin' alive.
 
2010-01-26 02:04:38 PM  
Alacritous: That's the underlying purpose of the "auditing" process. To gather blackmailable information. similar to the catholic confessional.

Nice, shiny bait. You'll get a few.
 
2010-01-26 02:04:46 PM  
gorgor: He's going to put rubber hoses up their noses.

Wow. gorgor kickin' it old-school.

/signed, Shostie's muttah
 
2010-01-26 02:04:55 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


I would assume it is a crappy attempt at good P.R. and not much more than that.
 
2010-01-26 02:05:38 PM  
I saw this on the noon news today. I applaud him for bringing supplies, but abhor him for trying to take advantage of people in a bad situation.
 
2010-01-26 02:05:46 PM  
FTFA: "The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday."

By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.
 
2010-01-26 02:06:26 PM  
Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.


Agreed. This is nothing but a photo-op and image boosting for Co$.

The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.
 
2010-01-26 02:06:52 PM  
patdollard.com

approves
 
2010-01-26 02:07:19 PM  
SnakeMan: FTFA: "The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday."

By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.


So what you're saying is that Travolta took the military rations from the US soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq in order to help the Haitians? Why does Travolta hate the USA?
 
2010-01-26 02:07:36 PM  
Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.


It doesn't take much, even FSM apastates have done more to help than the wealthy, oil-drenched Muslim countries which barely register on the aid contribution ranks.
 
2010-01-26 02:07:41 PM  
nekom: Actually, it's a simple whetstone bridge, it measures the resistance between the two cans attached to wires. At best it's a very crude lie detector of sorts, or maybe something along the lines of one of those `love tester' machines you see in malls. At worst it's absolutely nothing whatsoever. It certainly seems to have no practical use.

A buddy of mine & I got drunk one night and walked into a Scientology "Life Improvement Center" to take a Personality test just for the Lulz. They say my friend down in front of the e-meter, and he learned that if he squeezed really hard, it pinned the needle. The interviewer guy kept on trying to dig with questions, but my buddy kept on giving more and more ridiculous answers until he broke out the old "Do you my friend Jesus Christ?".

They ended the session and kicked us both out.

/cool story bro.
 
2010-01-26 02:07:48 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


It is however the right demographic to recruit new slaves to their Sea Org. They file a crapload of "religious worker visas" every year.
 
2010-01-26 02:07:57 PM  
ddam: SnakeMan: FTFA: "The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday."

By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

So what you're saying is that Travolta took the military rations from the US soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq in order to help the Haitians? Why does Travolta hate the USA?


You are an idiot.
 
2010-01-26 02:08:14 PM  
somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.
 
2010-01-26 02:08:20 PM  
cdn1.gamepro.com
"You wanna shake hands with the devil, that's fine with me, I just wanna make sure you do it in Hell."
 
2010-01-26 02:08:46 PM  
Failmitter just doesn't understand. It's like when you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only one who can really help...
 
2010-01-26 02:09:21 PM  
BubbaWilkins: Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.

Agreed. This is nothing but a photo-op and image boosting for Co$.

The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.


When the death tally due to Co$ catches up to the death tally of the Catholic church during... let's say the Inquisition (cuz there's no way in hell they'll catch up to the overall death tally due to the Catholic church overall) you'll have a point.
 
2010-01-26 02:09:59 PM  
That's strange. Everyone knows Haitians have no money to afford bread, let alone Scientology services. Especially Scientology services!
 
2010-01-26 02:11:42 PM  
The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?
 
2010-01-26 02:12:10 PM  
Bush had a hurricane machine and Obama has an Earthquake machine. We need to quit voting in people who have mini-doomsday devices. Simple as that.

/Or did the radical liberals (Farakah, Glover, Jackson, Kanye West) not believe Obama used his machine?
 
2010-01-26 02:12:15 PM  
sleeps in trees: SnakeMan: ddam: SnakeMan: FTFA: "The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday."

By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

So what you're saying is that Travolta took the military rations from the US soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq in order to help the Haitians? Why does Travolta hate the USA?

You are an idiot.

Trade in your e-meter for a new sarcasm meter.


Not a Scientologist, just can't stand to see a guy get so much crap for doing something nice.

Anyway, I suspected you were being sarcastic with the last sentence, but then the first sentence sounded like you were genuinely attacking my point. I didn't know what to think.
 
2010-01-26 02:12:17 PM  
ddam: shiat, as if an earthquake is not enough now the Haitian people have to read Battlefield Earth?

Worse. They have to WATCH Battlefield earth...

/*shudder*
 
2010-01-26 02:12:47 PM  
ddam: Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Well, the article did state that there are 800 planes waiting for a landing slot...
 
2010-01-26 02:13:15 PM  
Is it so wrong of me to wish for a plane crash?
 
2010-01-26 02:13:39 PM  
IrateShadow: I don't understand why cos always has to send people out to these things. At the core of their religion is that the removal of thetans allows them to reach their true potential and manipulate the world around them with pure will.

If this were the case, why would they need planes? Couldn't they just teleport there? And why even go down there? Couldn't they just will the area into being rebuilt and even more prosperous than it was before?


It's the same reason christians can't just miracle away the disaster. It's all bullshiat intended to keep weak people in line.
 
2010-01-26 02:13:42 PM  
And in Haitian mythology, lo it came to pass that Saint Travolta folded his wings and landed on Haiti's shores. He brought with him the knowledge and the truth. He brought with him great prophets of infinite wisdom. He brought with him this machine that goes 'bing', but instead of going 'bing' it just lights up. Thus the country was saved. Thus the country was enlightened. Thus all suffering ended and that 30ft bull monster was vanquished. As it is written, so shall it be.
 
2010-01-26 02:13:50 PM  
What the hell does the CoS want with Haiti? There is no money there.
 
2010-01-26 02:14:11 PM  
radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?


What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.
 
2010-01-26 02:14:49 PM  
ddam: When the death tally due to Co$ catches up to the death tally of the Catholic church during... let's say the Inquisition (cuz there's no way in hell they'll catch up to the overall death tally due to the Catholic church overall) you'll have a point.

www.ircsydney.org

You'd think it would be high enough for Travolta right now...


/aisle seat, please
 
2010-01-26 02:15:01 PM  
DirtyOldGeek: This just in: subby is a farking idiot.

Travolta brought in 6 tons of supplies and a few Scientology corporate executives...I mean...ministers.


I thought this was a good thing, too, until I realized he would bring the Scientology ministers back to the United States at some point.
 
2010-01-26 02:15:05 PM  
Yes, I agree subby. It is asinine that they take up valuable space on the plane with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies, which could have been better used to bring more supplies to help the victims emotionally heal.
 
2010-01-26 02:15:07 PM  
Trucker: Is it so wrong of me to wish for a plane crash?

Me, I'm imagining them landing and it looking like the ending of every zombie movie.


"to shreds, you say. Tsk tsk. What about the CEOs? To shreds, you say"
 
2010-01-26 02:15:19 PM  
H31N0US: What the hell does the CoS want with Haiti? There is no money there.

They've been actively seeking to curry favor in less-favorable locations in order to prepare for the day they get kicked out of the U.S. -- they've already been booted from most nations in Europe, so this is just laying the groundwork for a new headquarters in whatever country will put up with them.
 
2010-01-26 02:15:33 PM  
ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.


Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?
 
2010-01-26 02:15:59 PM  
Brainsick: ddam: shiat, as if an earthquake is not enough now the Haitian people have to read Battlefield Earth?

Worse. They have to WATCH Battlefield earth...

/*shudder*


I used to work with a guy who thought that was one of the Greatest Movies Ever Made. He also couldn't conceive of anyone thinking Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was anything less than Pure Cinematic Gold.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:16 PM  
SnakeMan: Not a Scientologist, just can't stand to see a guy get so much crap for doing something nice.

The food and water is a nice gesture. They are to be commended for it.

However, as mentioned earlier in the thread, they're also bringing their own brand of faith-healing to Haiti. This is not good, since they're not too far off from Benny Hinn in their medical knowledge.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:27 PM  
Nobler than Oedipus, Clairvoyant and toothless. Foreplay with no friends, premature until the end!


I've got a secret, babbling senseless, noone will ever know!


Grease is the word, is the word, that you heard.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:32 PM  
Every time a celebrity champions Scientology, a part of me commits suicide.

/Good job with the food and supplies though
 
2010-01-26 02:16:44 PM  
Six tons of supplies is pretty derisory. It probably cost more to fuel and fly the jet than it cost in MREs. It sounds more like a lame excuse to use the disaster as a publicity opportunity. I hope the UN and other charities tell them exactly where to go if they interfere with legitimate operations.
 
2010-01-26 02:16:55 PM  
ddam: Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.

Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Why don't you just face it: Haiti is last week's news. The world has moved on to the next disaster which is Leno back on The Tonight Show.


Leno isn't back on the Tonight show yet, yesterday's Tonight show was a Conan rerun from last year.

I believe NBC has said that Leno will take back the Tonight Show after the Winter Olympics in February.
 
2010-01-26 02:17:37 PM  
Haiti should ban proselytizing. It would solve many of their current and ongoing problems.
 
2010-01-26 02:17:39 PM  
Oh thank Xenu the Co$ is finally on the scene! I was worried the Haitian people would lose this valuable opportunity to learn dianetics.

Tomorrow's news...

Haitian people demand Travolta leave Haiti because Scientology is worse that the quake. "No thanks John, we got this."
 
2010-01-26 02:17:54 PM  
Click Click D'oh: ddam: Are you saying that there are c-17s circling Haiti waiting to get clearance to land and couldn't because Travolta went there?

Well, the article did state that there are 800 planes waiting for a landing slot...


Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?

As I stated before, he did a good deed but he made it (or the Co$)into a PR stunt which could delay other aid to that country.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:45 PM  
Shostie: SnakeMan: Not a Scientologist, just can't stand to see a guy get so much crap for doing something nice.

The food and water is a nice gesture. They are to be commended for it.

However, as mentioned earlier in the thread, they're also bringing their own brand of faith-healing to Haiti. This is not good, since they're not too far off from Benny Hinn in their medical knowledge.


Point well taken, but I would hope that, seeing as how the military is pretty much in charge of everything, any attempts by the Scientologists to nose their way into the Haitians' health care would be shut down.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:49 PM  
jebusfreak: Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

But will it detect explosives?
 
2010-01-26 02:18:49 PM  
SnakeMan: By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

Kind of like you just did.
 
2010-01-26 02:18:57 PM  
"The aid group Doctors Without Borders has complained that the flight scheduling priorities of U.S. military controllers running the airport delayed the arrival of field hospitals, resulting in some deaths."

Some deaths, eh? STFU & GBTW

Don't get all MADD out-of-control - stick to your mission.
 
2010-01-26 02:19:53 PM  
J.Garcia'sRightMiddleFinger: SnakeMan: By all means, just leave out any information that contradicts your slant, Biasmitter.

Kind of like you just did.


I didn't leave out information, I added to it. I added information that Subby left out. Please pay attention.
 
2010-01-26 02:21:19 PM  
SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?


Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.
 
2010-01-26 02:21:26 PM  
Submitter, doesn't know how to use a comma, makes the headline read like William Shatner
 
2010-01-26 02:21:40 PM  
So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.
 
2010-01-26 02:22:45 PM  
ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.


FTFM
 
2010-01-26 02:23:28 PM  
BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?
 
2010-01-26 02:23:38 PM  
ddam: Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases

I'm confused, isn't that the point I'm making?
 
2010-01-26 02:23:39 PM  
Don't be hatin' on Travolta, he's helpin' the Haitians stayin alive!
 
2010-01-26 02:24:21 PM  
ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM


OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
2010-01-26 02:25:04 PM  
Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

I thought Tom Cruise was the gay Scientologist.
 
2010-01-26 02:25:11 PM  
Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.


True they did send "ministers" and last week they (Scientolists) had went to Haiti but were turned away from the U.S. Military, why I don't know.
 
2010-01-26 02:26:17 PM  
A doomy curse upon the infrastructure of the Scientological movement, allow their pens to always be dry and their printers out of ink, and may the cautious and loving gods give all their ministers herpes and turn their flocks away like pamphlets in the wind.
 
2010-01-26 02:26:58 PM  
bubbaprog: H31N0US: What the hell does the CoS want with Haiti? There is no money there.

They've been actively seeking to curry favor in less-favorable locations in order to prepare for the day they get kicked out of the U.S. -- they've already been booted from most nations in Europe, so this is just laying the groundwork for a new headquarters in whatever country will put up with them.


Hmm. I hear bahrain puts up with crazy white people.. Actually that would be a great fit.
 
2010-01-26 02:28:38 PM  
ah-oh, the Republicans found another do gooder to whine about....


the horror
the horror.
 
2010-01-26 02:28:46 PM  
SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.


I should have clarified that you're wrong in this particular situation. If it's literally a matter of life and death, if you'll starve unless you accept someone's help, then you'll take it from anyone. And I honestly doubt, even with those 800 planes, that the Haitians aren't short on aid. I suspect that this disaster and all its effects are bigger than you think.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:09 PM  
OTII 1: Get the case gains file, the engram monitor, and the hat.
OTII 2: And get the machine that goes "PING!"
OTII 1: And get the most expensive machine in case the Scientologist comes.

///Adapting Monty Python quotes for good, not evil
 
2010-01-26 02:30:21 PM  
ddam: SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.


Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:25 PM  
Cagey B: And thus was born the Seventh Day Hamburglarists.

I like you.
 
2010-01-26 02:30:41 PM  
SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.


If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.

Hell, if the Co$ wanted to do some real good they would station their personal luxury cruise liner that's off Hilton Head in Haiti for 12 months and house some people. That would be a whole lot more helpful than this PR stunt.
 
2010-01-26 02:31:19 PM  
In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, Catholic Charities was distributing meals. The Lutherans were helping gut and re-build houses. Other various religions, whether it be Christian, Jewish, or Muslim were here helping people get the help they needed. The Scientologists were down here giving out stress tests. Yes, stress tests.
 
2010-01-26 02:32:34 PM  
Shostie: gorgor: He's going to put rubber hoses up their noses.

Wow. gorgor kickin' it old-school.

/signed, Shostie's muttah


Love means never having to hear 'I'm pregnant'.
 
2010-01-26 02:33:57 PM  
at least he's actually sending supplies. i find the rest no more img1.fark.net than the christian groups that are doing the same thing
 
2010-01-26 02:34:26 PM  
You know what would be hilarious? (and I'm being totally ironic about this!) if Scientology actually caught on in Haiti, and somehow the self-help principles of the cult actually changed the culture for the better, and wound up displacing Christianity and Voodoo as the official religion of that Island. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Haitians actually wound up being the only people on earth that Scientology could actually help, and that their part of the Island wound up becoming a stronghold of the "religion"? And they actually finally got their act together and did something with themselves? The Scientologists could finally have a real paradise for a home, and finally leave the rest of the damned planet alone.

But I sincerely doubt it. Still, it would be amusing to me, as a thorn in the side of every other major organized religion that has ever failed to deliver real hope or change for that hell hole.
 
2010-01-26 02:34:45 PM  
SnakeMan:
The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?


The problem isn't that there isn't aid. The problem is there isn't enough landing slots for all the aircraft that want to come to land.

If Travolta had really wanted to be useful he could've
(a)flown in real medical people instead of scientology nuts
(b)rented a C-130 and moved 22 tons of cargo instead of 6.

Sure every little bit helps, but not when his "every little bit" knocks somebody's more important or larger little bit out of the pattern.
The USAF controllers should've diverted his ass.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:03 PM  
...and SIX TONS OF FOOD! I haven't seen him on TV talking about it, instead he took action and did it. He's a good dude.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:06 PM  
Can he get a Royale with Cheese in Port-au-Prince?
 
2010-01-26 02:35:37 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?


Neckerchiefs.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:53 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


They need cannon fodder, the poor had always been used for that if not anything else.
 
2010-01-26 02:35:53 PM  
thespindrifter: You know what would be hilarious? (and I'm being totally ironic about this!) if Scientology actually caught on in Haiti, and somehow the self-help principles of the cult actually changed the culture for the better, and wound up displacing Christianity and Voodoo as the official religion of that Island. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Haitians actually wound up being the only people on earth that Scientology could actually help, and that their part of the Island wound up becoming a stronghold of the "religion"? And they actually finally got their act together and did something with themselves? The Scientologists could finally have a real paradise for a home, and finally leave the rest of the damned planet alone.

But I sincerely doubt it. Still, it would be amusing to me, as a thorn in the side of every other major organized religion that has ever failed to deliver real hope or change for that hell hole.


If they started worshipping John Frum Englewood, that would indeed be interesting.
 
2010-01-26 02:36:02 PM  
Travolta was always the the figurehead of scientology.

Tom's asshatery has was a big facepalm for Scientolists across the globe.

but i used to live in cali where Scientolists are like roaches.

it's a real big money laundring scam but the people who believe are really true.

it's a muti billion dollar company disquised as a chruch.
 
2010-01-26 02:36:18 PM  
Lionel Mandrake:
I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


The Jehova's Witnesses have already sent help to Haiti.

I so want to see a video of a JW / CoS confrontation
 
2010-01-26 02:37:18 PM  
SnakeMan: SnakeMan: ddam: ddam:

Because help with strings attached is no better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

FTFM

OK. Well, you're simply wrong about that first point. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I should have clarified that you're wrong in this particular situation. If it's literally a matter of life and death, if you'll starve unless you accept someone's help, then you'll take it from anyone. And I honestly doubt, even with those 800 planes, that the Haitians aren't short on aid. I suspect that this disaster and all its effects are bigger than you think.


Now you're starting to piss me off. Where was Travolta and the Co$ before the earthquake as it pertains to Haiti? That country has been a living disaster for the past 20 years at least. Was Travolta sending food and medicine during all those years he was denying his son the proper care because his chuch told him that pills are bad? Was the Co$ hosting fund raising events to help the people of Haiti before this? Hell no and you can bet your ass that as soon as the short attention span of the world turns away from Haiti they'll be back on the plane and back home cuz the people of Haiti have no money to give to that organization.
 
2010-01-26 02:37:55 PM  
ddam:
Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?


Last picture I saw of the ramp was C-17s, C-130s, a 747 and an AN-124. All of which have significantly more capacity than the six tons Travolta landed.

Even the C-130s carry in three times what Travolta did, and you can park two of them in the same foot print of his 707.. which means an effective lift of six times what he carried.

Here's how to be a hero with a jet. British Airways pulled a 747 from passenger service and loaded it completely with about fifty tons of disaster supplies. They filled up the baggage area deck and piled things in the passenger seats so they could get as much on the plane as possible. Then, a crew composed entirely of volunteers took it to Haiti. When they got there they unloaded the cargo deck but found that there wasn't any equipment left that could unload the passenger deck. BA management told them to pop the emergency slides (which will cost tens of thousand of dollars to replace) and they slid everything out of the plane.
 
2010-01-26 02:38:38 PM  
flamingboard: somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.

You really should STFU (new window) and take your idiocy elsewhere. Hate on the mormons all you want but 9 times outa 10 they are first on the scene helping with food, water and the neccesities. (new window)
 
2010-01-26 02:39:15 PM  
Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

www.celebritysmackblog.com
 
2010-01-26 02:39:17 PM  
The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.
 
2010-01-26 02:39:22 PM  
Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?

scheirmad.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-01-26 02:39:27 PM  
ddam: Now you're starting to piss me off. Where was Travolta and the Co$ before the earthquake as it pertains to Haiti?

Well there weren't any TV cameras there before the earthquake. Sheesh.
 
2010-01-26 02:39:40 PM  
Plus he's a shiatty actor too.
 
2010-01-26 02:40:25 PM  
sidgoop: In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, Catholic Charities was distributing meals. The Lutherans were helping gut and re-build houses. Other various religions, whether it be Christian, Jewish, or Muslim were here helping people get the help they needed. The Scientologists were down here giving out stress tests. Yes, stress tests.

You still sound a little stressed!
 
2010-01-26 02:42:43 PM  
Cagey B: Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.

So that makes it OK? These people are using mysticism to influence people who are actually un/misinformed enough to believe it. Healing touch? Give me a break. Those poor Haitians don't stand a chance against this level of mystical nonsense. They still use witch doctors.
 
2010-01-26 02:42:47 PM  
Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.
 
2010-01-26 02:43:27 PM  
Brainsick: "You wanna shake hands with the devil, that's fine with me, I just wanna make sure you do it in Hell."

Is the black guy in this pic, Rembrandt Brown from the television show Sliders?

Sure looks a hell of a lot like him...
 
2010-01-26 02:43:32 PM  
So, let me get this straight... Travolta flew his own jet to Haiti bringing relief to the starving masses, took some CoS ministers out of the US, left them there, and then flew back to Florida and some people are complaining?!?!

Hero tag urgently needed.
 
2010-01-26 02:43:46 PM  
Click Click D'oh: ddam:
Are those 800 places all C-17s or are most of them smaller than the one Travolta flew in?

Last picture I saw of the ramp was C-17s, C-130s, a 747 and an AN-124. All of which have significantly more capacity than the six tons Travolta landed.

Even the C-130s carry in three times what Travolta did, and you can park two of them in the same foot print of his 707.. which means an effective lift of six times what he carried.

Here's how to be a hero with a jet. British Airways pulled a 747 from passenger service and loaded it completely with about fifty tons of disaster supplies. They filled up the baggage area deck and piled things in the passenger seats so they could get as much on the plane as possible. Then, a crew composed entirely of volunteers took it to Haiti. When they got there they unloaded the cargo deck but found that there wasn't any equipment left that could unload the passenger deck. BA management told them to pop the emergency slides (which will cost tens of thousand of dollars to replace) and they slid everything out of the plane.


You're not gonna get me to disagree with you. Probably all those planes allowed to land are bigger than the one used by Travolta and the only reason he was allowed to land was because of his name. I see this as a publicity stunt and nothing else. There are many people that want to help Haiti and a few of them have a lot of money that they are willing to give, Travolta being one of them. But when those rich folk start attaching strings (bringing Co$ ministers) along with a bad feeling about their true motivation behind their deeds.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:01 PM  
FTA;

"All the patients are happy with the technique," said Sylvie. "But some doctors don't like the yellow T-shirts. It's a color thing," she insisted.

No, they just don't like you farging iceholes getting in the way of real medical care with your "touch" technique for healing. Morons.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:11 PM  
Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?

This thread was over after the second post, but nobody noticed.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:31 PM  
Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.
 
2010-01-26 02:44:56 PM  
What a moran. I only fly my 707 to islands with hot biatches & bottomless drinks on the beaches.
 
2010-01-26 02:46:16 PM  
ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.


PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.
 
2010-01-26 02:46:47 PM  
Jeff73: But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.


I've thought about that quite a bit. Considering how universally reviled they are around here, I can't help but wonder if there are some sort of stealth Scientologists who very carefully try to interject positive things about their cult, knowing that if they get called out they'll lose all credibility.

I wonder...

SnakeMan: Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?

/unrelated
 
2010-01-26 02:47:49 PM  
Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.



There is one. Or was one at least. It was a dude and he had a Scientology tattoo. Anyone else remember that guy?
 
2010-01-26 02:48:16 PM  
She comes in colors everywhere: Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.


The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The whole secrecy thing, learning body control, etc. It's Church of All Worlds with different phlebotinum.
 
2010-01-26 02:48:31 PM  
Latinwolf: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.


WTF does that mean? Is the subby as rich as Travolta? Does the subby own a freaking 707? Seriously, get off your high horse and take your celebrity worship somewhere else.
 
2010-01-26 02:49:18 PM  
Brainsick: ddam: shiat, as if an earthquake is not enough now the Haitian people have to read Battlefield Earth?

Worse. They have to WATCH Battlefield earth...

/*shudder*


They got solar powered TVs and VCRs?
 
2010-01-26 02:50:10 PM  
DrewFL: So that makes it OK? These people are using mysticism to influence people who are actually un/misinformed enough to believe it. Healing touch? Give me a break. Those poor Haitians don't stand a chance against this level of mystical nonsense. They still use witch doctors.

Hey, I don't like this whole thing either (though I wonder how much actual harm would result from switching one goofy set of mystical beliefs for another). But if people have a problem with this, I certainly hope they have the same problem with other religious missionary disaster response efforts. Which are not exactly rare.
 
2010-01-26 02:50:45 PM  
Latinwolf: PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever can afford to do.

FTFY.

/don't credit to sensitivity what can be attributed to wealth
 
2010-01-26 02:51:02 PM  
ddam:
If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.


He did.

Travolta and Preston returned to Florida as soon as their supplies and passengers were unloaded.

I don't give a damn about their publicity stunt or whatever. But they flew his shiat down there, unloaded it, and left.

Maybe, just maybe, since the guy is a pilot, and in Florida, he just thought, I should fly some stuff down there. I have to assume that either he or the church bought the MREs too.
 
2010-01-26 02:52:09 PM  
Dianetics makes for good kindling. So I guess it's not so bad.
 
2010-01-26 02:53:16 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: BubbaWilkins: The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

Silly hats?


The mafias are more open minded and allow homosexuals?
 
2010-01-26 02:53:20 PM  
IrateShadow: I don't understand why cos always has to send people out to these things. At the core of their religion is that the removal of thetans allows them to reach their true potential and manipulate the world around them with pure will.

If this were the case, why would they need planes? Couldn't they just teleport there? And why even go down there? Couldn't they just will the area into being rebuilt and even more prosperous than it was before?


www-gte.larc.nasa.gov

They'd use the spacecraft which look exactly like DC-8's, except their are rockets instead of jet engines.
 
2010-01-26 02:53:39 PM  
Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

^this
 
2010-01-26 02:54:00 PM  
Cagey B: Hey, I don't like this whole thing either (though I wonder how much actual harm would result from switching one goofy set of mystical beliefs for another). But if people have a problem with this, I certainly hope they have the same problem with other religious missionary disaster response efforts. Which are not exactly rare.

I'm with you to some extent...but I don't think catholic missionaries are down there laying hands and professing the power of the holy spirit to heal. Also, the Menonites rebuilt my mother's house after Katrina for free, so I can't say enough good things about them. If religious groups are helping people then fine, but don't prey on ignorant, traumatized people in a time of need with mystical mumbo-jumbo.
 
2010-01-26 02:54:04 PM  
DeadZone: Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.


haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

on my way home from picking up my daughter i almost took a cart full of em out in a freak blizzard that happened in upperstate new york. i have one question tho. what the hell where they doing out a 3am in the first place in a blizzard?
 
2010-01-26 02:54:12 PM  
Cagey B: brap: I will convert to anything JUST GET THIS FREAKING RUBBLE OFF OF ME!

And thus was born the Seventh Day Hamburglarists.


ROFL
 
2010-01-26 02:54:14 PM  
cryinoutloud: ddam:
If he (and the Co$) wanted to only help they would have flown the plane there, unloaded and left leaving the groups that are already there set up to dispense of the food/medicine as they are needed.

He did.

Travolta and Preston returned to Florida as soon as their supplies and passengers were unloaded.

I don't give a damn about their publicity stunt or whatever. But they flew his shiat down there, unloaded it, and left.

Maybe, just maybe, since the guy is a pilot, and in Florida, he just thought, I should fly some stuff down there. I have to assume that either he or the church bought the MREs too.


If those passangers are not medically certified professionals then they have no reason to be there at this moment. They can go back in 12 months if they wanna do some "good" once the situation there is stabilized (if not improved).
 
2010-01-26 02:55:52 PM  
Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.

But not CoS. I have never seen a genuine Scientologist defend Scientology on this forum, and it baffles me because they're so aggressively nasty everywhere else. Did zombie Elron declare this site to be forbidden ground? Is there some sort of filter? Is there a shibboleth by which Drew recognizes clamheads and prevents them from registering?

If not, their silence is uncanny.


Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?
 
2010-01-26 02:55:54 PM  
Snarfangel: Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

I thought Tom Cruise was the gay Scientologist.


The rumors about Travolta date back to just after "Saturday Night Fever" came out in the late 1970's.
 
2010-01-26 02:57:29 PM  
Latinwolf: Diogenes: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital, along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Don't get me wrong -- I think Travolta and Preston's hearts are in the right place, but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

True they did send "ministers" and last week they (Scientolists) had went to Haiti but were turned away from by the U.S. Military. Why, I don't know.
 
2010-01-26 02:59:04 PM  
Whoever allowed a religious expedition with a token amount of aid to jump the landing queue should be fired / court marshaled.

These people need professionals and real quantities of aid ... not publicity stunts.

If he did this after the back-log was cleared then he would have still been another scumbag cult preying on the vulnerable, but at least his supplies might have helped.
 
2010-01-26 02:59:06 PM  
How about some real aid?

Like, umm, solar powered bibles?
 
2010-01-26 02:59:10 PM  
nekom: jebusfreak: Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

Actually, it's a simple whetstone bridge, it measures the resistance between the two cans attached to wires. At best it's a very crude lie detector of sorts, or maybe something along the lines of one of those `love tester' machines you see in malls. At worst it's absolutely nothing whatsoever. It certainly seems to have no practical use.

Proper usage of an e-meter:


I believe in the photo they are testing the Flying Spaghetti Monster...his noodly appendage lived on to fight the thetan mindbots...
 
2010-01-26 02:59:22 PM  
rigamrts: haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

Actually, I don't know about the amish, but the Menonites dress the same but they all have cell phones. There were a bunch of them at the job site in amish garb, talking on cell phones. Odd looking to say the least.
 
2010-01-26 03:01:00 PM  
As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.
 
2010-01-26 03:01:13 PM  
Scientology.........vodoo.......whats the difference
 
2010-01-26 03:01:53 PM  
If people are on huge lists to get in how in the hell did he do it...

/They are EVERYWHERE aren't they....
 
2010-01-26 03:02:04 PM  
FTFA: John Travolta has flown a jetliner carrying relief supplies into the Haitian capital...

Hey, awesome. Hopefully the aid gets to the peopl--

...along with doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology.

Oh, fark you, you brainwashed jerk.
 
2010-01-26 03:02:15 PM  
The fault is allowing him to take up a landing slot.

Yes people, there is a huge queue of planes trying to get in with /real/ help, and he took a slot.
 
2010-01-26 03:02:23 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Why thank you, Poe.
 
2010-01-26 03:03:15 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Please tell me where we can legally get these documents to read -- without spending a fortune to do so.
 
2010-01-26 03:05:03 PM  
It's not about Haiti. IT'S ABOUT TERRISTS!
 
2010-01-26 03:05:40 PM  
amanogowa: Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?


Sure, please share. I enjoy hearing bullshiat.



scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Holy fark, one exists!
 
2010-01-26 03:06:06 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

I want you to defend your holiest book.

And by that, I mean Battlefield Earth.
 
2010-01-26 03:10:34 PM  
Jeff73: amanogowa: Want to know how we can all tell you are new here?


Sure, please share. I enjoy hearing bullshiat.



scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.


Holy fark, one exists!


I think you found your own answer.

These nutters used to post with much greater frequency, but they are still around.
 
2010-01-26 03:10:35 PM  
Mighty Whitey: Knucklepopper: Was Capt. Kirk the Subby?

This thread was over after the second post, but nobody noticed.



I'm tryin', man

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.


sattlers.org

So apparently Travolta is bringing prosthetic foreheads for their real heads.
 
2010-01-26 03:11:06 PM  
beoswulf: Diogenes: Headso:
It doesn't take much, even FSM apastates have done more to help than the wealthy, oil-drenched Muslim countries which barely register on the aid contribution ranks.


Came for the pastafarian refrence, leaving happy. At least pastafarians could come in thier pirate ships and wouldn't have to take up valuable flight line space.
 
2010-01-26 03:12:20 PM  
DeadZone: Jeff73: The CoS is unique on Fark. Absolutely unique. What sets it apart is this: every thread devoted to the world's other wacko cults contains at least one True Believer standing up for his or her delusion's honor. Mormons, JWs, Moonies, Rajneeshers, Ramtha Tards, you-name-it and a thread about It will feature brainwashed voices stridently railing against the derisive horde.


Bullshiat. I've YET to see the Amish on here.


It just might be that rejection thing that's keeping them away.
 
2010-01-26 03:12:50 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Wow-wee!* A real Scientologist on Fark. I would love to hear how you've benefited from Scientology, and how much money you had to contribute.

\* said in a Toki Wartooth voice
 
2010-01-26 03:13:27 PM  
Mad_Radhu: Failmitter just doesn't understand. It's like when you're a Scientologist, and you drive by an accident, you know you have to do something about it, because you know you're the only one who can really help...

this made me giggle.
 
2010-01-26 03:14:01 PM  
Its more than any of you cheap bastards did, but you'll find a reason to mock. Did subby not see the part about the military rations? Personally, if you're bringing food to somewhere like Haiti in a freaking jet, you can bring whoever the hell you want, including scientologists, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Buddah himself and all the inhabitants of of Arcturus. The folks are hurting enough, who cares who passes out aid.

At least he's doing something.

And before you pull the mockery guns out, yes, I donated clothes and money already to the Haiti Relief fund here. Now feel free to mock.
 
2010-01-26 03:15:27 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

it's not that i have a disdain for Scientology. it's the few at top that distort Scientology for monitary gains. this happens in all religions. i'm probably one of few who understand what some of teachings of Scientology. the thing is if your going to take pot shots at a religion for fun haha's you should do some reserch on what they truly believe rather pointing out e readers and such. it just makes people sound uneducated when they do.
 
2010-01-26 03:16:50 PM  
factoryconnection: Nice, shiny bait. You'll get a few.

You aren't familiar with $cientology's "Preclear Folder?", are you?

Judge Paul Breckenridge, in Church of Scientology of California vs. Gerald Armstrong, noted that Mary Sue Hubbard (plaintiff in that case) "authored the infamous order 'GO 121669' which directed culling of supposedly confidential P.C. [Preclear] files/folders for the purposes of internal security ... for purposes of intimidation and/or harassment".[4] Critics and former members assert that preclear folders have indeed been used for such intimidation and harassment.[5][6][7]


Some have said that the contents of the PC Folder is the blackmail that keeps Cruise and Travolta in the grips of the organization.
 
2010-01-26 03:18:40 PM  
clevercleaver: Its more than any of you cheap bastards did, but you'll find a reason to mock. Did subby not see the part about the military rations? Personally, if you're bringing food to somewhere like Haiti in a freaking jet, you can bring whoever the hell you want, including scientologists, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Buddah himself and all the inhabitants of of Arcturus. The folks are hurting enough, who cares who passes out aid.

At least he's doing something.

And before you pull the mockery guns out, yes, I donated clothes and money already to the Haiti Relief fund here. Now feel free to mock.


Don't be so grumpy. You don't know what we did or did not do. People have just mentioned that his jet, while generously loaded with food and Scientologists, took the place of another plane that holds much more food and non Scientologists. The other difference is that Scientologists give stress tests and not medical aid.
 
2010-01-26 03:20:11 PM  
She comes in colors everywhere: Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.


L. Ron really did start Scientology on a bet, (after making remarks at a WSFCon that there was way more money in religion than writing) but it was WAAAAY before Stranger was written. In fact, given that RAH and LRH were friends before WWII and Their friendship broke off about the same time Heinlein's and John W. Campbell's did (Campbell also famously saying publicly at the time that he was convinced LRH would win a Nobel Prize for Dianetics), it's not unreasonable to read Heinlein's Fosterites in Stranger as a direct rebuke/parody of Scientology
 
2010-01-26 03:20:21 PM  
ddam: Latinwolf: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.

WTF does that mean? Is the subby as rich as Travolta? Does the subby own a freaking 707? Seriously, get off your high horse and take your celebrity worship somewhere else.


Hey snowflake, go fark yourself. I've made fun of the guy as much as anyone else in other circumstances. I'm just pointing home that most of the people trashing him are losers that probably haven't done a damned thing to hlep those people and likely will enver lift a finger to help while trahsing anyone who does.
 
2010-01-26 03:21:40 PM  
clevercleaver: Its more than any of you cheap bastards did

Really?!? Getting in the way of real aid so you can spread your religious dogma helps???

Even people who did nothing have done more than Travolta ... at least they didn't impede the flow of help.
 
2010-01-26 03:22:25 PM  
Cagey B: the_be_sharps: Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.


img.moronail.net

/hot
 
2010-01-26 03:24:34 PM  
DrewFL: rigamrts: haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

Actually, I don't know about the amish, but the Menonites dress the same but they all have cell phones. There were a bunch of them at the job site in amish garb, talking on cell phones. Odd looking to say the least.


It comes from being too literal in your interpretation of Scriptures. Amish and most Mennonites don't ban electricity per se, but, for some reason, wires running to their houses, so it was not uncommon for many even devout Amish to keep a phone in thier barn rather than thier house. Same with wireless phones, many Amish have no problem having them, even though they are far higher tech than the landlines they shunned
 
2010-01-26 03:27:15 PM  
RocketRay: Cagey B: the_be_sharps: Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.



/hot


i beg to differ

lets see here

Hmmmmmm

Pat Roberts
Dr Shuler
the catholic church

to name a few

not a cash grab my arse
 
2010-01-26 03:27:15 PM  
Why would the Church of Scientology want to recruit in Haiti as it's not like the people there have money to afford all the Scientology junk.
 
2010-01-26 03:28:42 PM  
Befuddled: Why would the Church of Scientology want to recruit in Haiti as it's not like the people there have money to afford all the Scientology junk.

They're not recruiting there. They wanna get their name in the press so dumb people (like the few in this thread) will say "see, they aren't all that bad".
 
2010-01-26 03:30:11 PM  
I don't know why I'm always so surprised at the number of COS apologists in Fark tabs. The church knows and makes every effort to recruit teens and young adults, those who are most susceptible to its claims.
 
2010-01-26 03:30:34 PM  
MBooda: Latinwolf: PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever can afford to do.

FTFY.

/don't credit to sensitivity what can be attributed to wealth


Well then he's as sensitive as every other person with money who's getting involved in this.
 
2010-01-26 03:31:46 PM  
Oh my god. How farking retarded. I just looked up E-meter
on wiki. What a bunch of idiotic horse shiat. Wow. Yes.
You're reading the electrical resistance of the human body.

L Ron was said to have tested it on tomatoes to see if they
felt pain. He said they screamed when you cut them.

Really?
 
2010-01-26 03:31:57 PM  
clevercleaver: Its more than any of you cheap bastards did, but you'll find a reason to mock. Did subby not see the part about the military rations? Personally, if you're bringing food to somewhere like Haiti in a freaking jet, you can bring whoever the hell you want, including scientologists, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Buddah himself and all the inhabitants of of Arcturus. The folks are hurting enough, who cares who passes out aid.

At least he's doing something.

And before you pull the mockery guns out, yes, I donated clothes and money already to the Haiti Relief fund here. Now feel free to mock.


My sentiments exactly. I don't care for Scientology, but 6 tons of emergency food is 6 tons of emergency food.
 
2010-01-26 03:32:13 PM  
amanogowa: I think you found your own answer.

These nutters used to post with much greater frequency, but they are still around.



I wouldn't call Scott evidence of me being new, exactly, given that we registered around the same time. Perhaps I just haven't been 'lucky' enough to spot one of them until now.



scott88008: Freshly laundered, dried and folded is my mind for love of Elron, may He forever receive my dollars.

In a way I feel badly for Scott. Members of most cults can at least directly claim that their group's preposterous stories are true. Mormons can insist that the golden plates exist. Rajneesh's gang can tell you that he really can levitate or whatever. Presented with the cracked-headed insanity of the Xenu story all Scott can say is that he hasn't given enough money to his keepers to be allowed to know about it. The phrasing an actual IRL Scientologist I knew years ago used was, "they haven't asked me to believe that yet."

"But they're going to if you pay them enough. You aren't disputing that, right?

"They haven't asked me to believe that yet."

"So you don't care that your lifetime of service is going to be rewarded with bad 50's sci-fi if you 'measure up' by being squeezed of enough cash?"

"They haven't asked me to believe that yet."

"Right, not yet. But they farking WILL. Sitting right here, right now, does the Xenu story sound even remotely plausible to you or like anything a sane person would ever accept?"

"They haven't asked me to believe that yet."


Like a farking robot, no matter what I said. It was creepy as hell, made worse by the fact that he was otherwise a halfway intelligent human being.
 
2010-01-26 03:32:36 PM  
What I find ridiculous is that the ATC let these clowns in ahead of real relief flights.

Farking hell.
 
2010-01-26 03:33:07 PM  
How is this any different than what the Catholics, Mormons, protestants, and some Jewish communities do? I hate Scientology too, but how is this any different?
 
2010-01-26 03:33:15 PM  
Latinwolf: ddam: Latinwolf: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

PR stunt, yes, but at least he's still doing more than subby is probably doing or will ever do.

WTF does that mean? Is the subby as rich as Travolta? Does the subby own a freaking 707? Seriously, get off your high horse and take your celebrity worship somewhere else.

Hey snowflake, go fark yourself. I've made fun of the guy as much as anyone else in other circumstances. I'm just pointing home that most of the people trashing him are losers that probably haven't done a damned thing to hlep those people and likely will enver lift a finger to help while trahsing anyone who does.


I've been trying to follow this arguement. Fairly unsuccessfully I might add, due to the Percocets for the injured knee. But I have to say, "Dudes, lighten up, Francis." It's the internets. You are obviously not going to agree with each other. Have a drink in honor of one of our fallen and call it a day.

/Or just ignore the ramblings of the percocet-ed girl. Whatevs.
 
2010-01-26 03:33:23 PM  
bilbo douchebaggins: Oh my god. How farking retarded. I just looked up E-meter
on wiki. What a bunch of idiotic horse shiat. Wow. Yes.
You're reading the electrical resistance of the human body.

L Ron was said to have tested it on tomatoes to see if they
felt pain. He said they screamed when you cut them.


Really?


Baxter tested, hubbard approved.
 
2010-01-26 03:34:16 PM  
home.snafu.de



Still waiting upon tom cruise to state that Haitians made a deal with Lord Xenu some time ago and need to repent...
 
2010-01-26 03:36:04 PM  
clevercleaver: Its more than any of you cheap bastards did, but you'll find a reason to mock. Did subby not see the part about the military rations? Personally, if you're bringing food to somewhere like Haiti in a freaking jet, you can bring whoever the hell you want, including scientologists, Jesus, the Easter Bunny, Buddah himself and all the inhabitants of of Arcturus. The folks are hurting enough, who cares who passes out aid.

At least he's doing something.

And before you pull the mockery guns out, yes, I donated clothes and money already to the Haiti Relief fund here. Now feel free to mock.


He took up a slot for a plane with more help. fark him.
 
2010-01-26 03:36:44 PM  
I think the charitable interest is being able to run a non-profit wing of their organization and write off all the "millions" they're spending to help over there, with the bonus of free positive PR.
 
2010-01-26 03:39:24 PM  
thomps: i think it's probably the right priority, considering how impractical and silly looking it would be to attach wind turbines to bibles.

The wind turbines would make the Bibles too cold.

theinfosphere.org
 
2010-01-26 03:41:35 PM  
Didn't his son die because he didn't proper medical treatment? Maybe people who are generally in poor health from the get-go will benefit from it! Lets see what happens.
 
2010-01-26 03:41:55 PM  
coltsbills:

Scientology is dildos.


Dethklok slash porn? Rule 34 rears its ugly head again.
 
2010-01-26 03:46:13 PM  
I'm not s'posed to talk about deleted posts, right? Just that I count no less than 3 hotlinked pics in this thread thread that are still here. Guess it must be considered bad form to admit it in the comment ;) Either that or the freepers are dicks.

on topic: who are the bigger dicks, scientologists or freepers?
 
2010-01-26 03:46:27 PM  
And some doctors
And some support staff
And a couple of tons of food...
 
2010-01-26 03:48:31 PM  
Fano: ddam: SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.


How are they doing on prosthetic foreheads?
 
2010-01-26 03:49:46 PM  
SouthParkCon: flamingboard: somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.

You really should STFU (new window) and take your idiocy elsewhere. Hate on the mormons all you want but 9 times outa 10 they are first on the scene helping with food, water and the neccesities. (new window)


Yeah! Jesus was here in America helping the indians waaaay before other white folks showed up!
 
2010-01-26 03:50:43 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

HBK 3:16 says I just gave you pneumonia.
 
2010-01-26 03:51:45 PM  
coltsbills:

What a Fark Scientologist might look like:


The eyes aren't dead enough. He needs more training in bullbaiting (new window).
 
2010-01-26 03:52:16 PM  
SouthParkCon: flamingboard: somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.

You really should STFU (new window) and take your idiocy elsewhere. Hate on the mormons all you want but 9 times outa 10 they are first on the scene helping with food, water and the neccesities. (new window)


woke up on the wrong side of the bible today i see.
 
2010-01-26 03:53:44 PM  
To any Fark Scientologists:

Is there anything that Jason Beghe said in his 37-hour, rambling interview about his decision to leave the church that isn't true?

Because, as painful as that was to sometimes sit through, he basically reiterated a lot of the same stuff you can read about on Operation Clambake, etc.
 
2010-01-26 03:54:08 PM  
coltsbills: Egalitarian: scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Wow-wee!* A real Scientologist on Fark. I would love to hear how you've benefited from Scientology, and how much money you had to contribute.

\* said in a Toki Wartooth voice

Scientology is dildos.


Um... that pic. I gotta ask.

Wut?
 
2010-01-26 03:55:11 PM  
this is really generous of him. he has been nothing but a good guy as far as i know. piss on you jerks that cut him down.
 
2010-01-26 03:55:53 PM  
Cagey B: the_be_sharps: Scientology isn't a religion. It's a cash grab.

Religion has never before been about grabbing cash.


Religion = Superstition + $$$$$
 
2010-01-26 03:56:26 PM  
scalpod: Fano: ddam: SnakeMan: ddam: radioman_: The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

And how much has subby donated so far?

What does that have to do with the fact that this is a PR stunt? What Travolta did was a good deed but it could have done without alerting the media that he's going to land at that specific time and he could have kept his presence low key if he really wanted to visit the place that badly.

Who gives a shiat why he did it? The point is that the Haitians now have more aid that they didn't have before. Every little bit of help counts. Or do you deny that?

Because help with strings attached is better than no help at all in most cases (especially when the strings are pulled by churches). It's not like the Haitians are short on aid at the moment (800 planes waiting to land). What the people of Haiti need is help, not more strings.

Especially since they've got plenty of rocks to wind their strings around.

How are they doing on prosthetic foreheads?


Johnny's bringin' em from the Battlefield Earth costume department.
 
2010-01-26 03:57:03 PM  
andrew131: How is this any different than what the Catholics, Mormons, protestants, and some Jewish communities do? I hate Scientology too, but how is this any different?

Ultimately, it's not very different at all, in terms of the "hey lookit our awesome religion" aspects.

The issue with Scientology is that we've watched it grow out of nothing in virtually no time. It's case-in-point evidence of how ordinary people can buy into an obviously false story story designed to take their money. And because the founders of the cult were smart enough to brand it as a religion they got tax-exempt status and no one can touch them in the US because they hide under the umbrella we set out for religion.

Scientology is like Mormonism -- a stupid story that a few people bought, and after the death of the cult leader it turned into a self-perpetuating system. Both were originally scams that forgot they were scams once the scammers all died off.

The fact that we can watch this happen over and over again, even within living memory, should tell everyone a little something about their own religious cults, leaders, and long-dead figureheads. It should, but it doesn't.
 
2010-01-26 03:58:53 PM  
www.google.com

These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.
 
2010-01-26 03:59:46 PM  
Scientologists? In my Fark?

So is this a form a self-flagellation?
 
2010-01-26 03:59:49 PM  
Does anyone else remember the commercials for Dianetics with the volcano?

When I was a kid I thought it would be a really cool disaster book to read. I always asked my mom to buy it.

Oops.
 
2010-01-26 04:00:33 PM  
GungFu: These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.


Why is there a cross on the Scientology t-shirt?
 
2010-01-26 04:03:48 PM  
cats4rent: this is really generous of him. he has been nothing but a good guy as far as i know. piss on you jerks that cut him down.

his heart's in the right place, but the article is implying that they let his plane (filled mostly with good stuff, but also with a few scientology ministers) land while doctors without borders has planes that are backed up on the waiting list.
 
2010-01-26 04:05:19 PM  
I'm not gonna fault the guy for flying over there with 6 tons of military ration food.
 
2010-01-26 04:06:28 PM  
FTA:
The 55-year-old actor piloted his own Boeing 707 from Florida with six tons of ready-to-eat military rations and medical supplies for survivors of Haiti's devastating Jan. 12 earthquake late Monday.

I'm totally cool with that. Scientology or not, JT is cool in my book. He doesn't proselytize that I've noticed. He can believe in whatever sky-wizard/Xenu/Thetan mumbo-jumbo he wants. Just don't be up in everyone's face about it.

And at least he's not that farking lunatic Cruise!
 
2010-01-26 04:07:38 PM  
Epicedion: Why is there a cross on the Scientology t-shirt?


The same reason the Catholics adopted Christmas and Easter: to add a point of familiarity for the pagans.



SomeoneDumb: The eyes aren't dead enough. He needs more training in bullbaiting (new window).


That (bullbaiting) sounds like a pretty good explanation for the behavior of the guy I mentioned in my last post. Questioning anything the CoS told him turned him into one of the Tranquil from the Dragon Age game until you gave up on it.
 
2010-01-26 04:09:23 PM  
dumbgai: cats4rent: this is really generous of him. he has been nothing but a good guy as far as i know. piss on you jerks that cut him down.

his heart's in the right place, but the article is implying that they let his plane (filled mostly with good stuff, but also with a few scientology ministers) land while doctors without borders has planes that are backed up on the waiting list.


And it would be terrible if his little celebrity jaunt into a disaster area backed up larger quantities of aid.

This is one of the few truths about reality that I can muster: if you do something publicly to help other people in the name of your religion, it taints everything you do with your own self-interest.

Story: "John Travlota and a bunch of people on a plane deliver aid to Haiti" or "Scientology gets free advertising from major news sources"

They're taking advantage of a common sentiment about religion: look at all the good religion has done.
 
2010-01-26 04:10:04 PM  
These "Scientology Volunteers" showed up on Virginia Tech's campus after the shootings there a few years back to provide "grief counseling and trauma relief". I'll give them credit though, they put up a big bright yellow tent and dressed in yellow shirts with "Scientology Volunteer" above a cross making them very easy to avoid for those who wanted to which appeared to be everyone.

staging.radaronline.com
 
2010-01-26 04:11:13 PM  
DrewFL: rigamrts: haha i can see it now Amish people hiding in the woods with a hand crank laptop posting on fark. cause batteries and crank tech it not considered a sin.

Actually, I don't know about the amish, but the Menonites dress the same but they all have cell phones. There were a bunch of them at the job site in amish garb, talking on cell phones. Odd looking to say the least.


The Mennonite Central Committee (pops) is sending a lot of relief aid to Haiti.

\One of my clients is one of their programs
\\Quite proud of that fact, even though I'm an "militant" atheist
 
2010-01-26 04:13:09 PM  
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"But you promised to help me move, aw jeez!"
 
2010-01-26 04:14:26 PM  
In case any of you are wondering how to perform a Touch Assist, this site provides a helpful how-to guide.
 
2010-01-26 04:17:02 PM  
Epicedion: And because the founders of the cult were smart enough to brand it as a religion they got tax-exempt status dug up dirt on the directors of the IRS and used a 50-state lawsuit approach to make the IRS capitulate and sign a (still) secret agreement that gives $cientologists special protections and tax deductions and no one can touch them in the US because they hide under the umbrella we set out for religion.

FTFY
 
2010-01-26 04:20:42 PM  
Didn't read the thread, and I am sure I am echoing a lot of posts, but...

As much as I hate Scientology, submitter is a raging douchebag.
 
2010-01-26 04:22:33 PM  
BadSpellingAGoGo: Does anyone else remember the commercials for Dianetics with the volcano?

When I was a kid I thought it would be a really cool disaster book to read. I always asked my mom to buy it.

Oops.


lol I remember those commercials

usually saw them in the middle of the night watching some cheesey movie on usa's Up all Night

ahhh memories
 
2010-01-26 04:22:34 PM  
Jeff73:
That (bullbaiting) sounds like a pretty good explanation for the behavior of the guy I mentioned in my last post. Questioning anything the CoS told him turned him into one of the Tranquil from the Dragon Age game until you gave up on it.


Like a tranquil who yells about Enchantment! Good catch!
 
2010-01-26 04:23:04 PM  
BadSpellingAGoGo: Does anyone else remember the commercials for Dianetics with the volcano?

When I was a kid I thought it would be a really cool disaster book to read. I always asked my mom to buy it.

Oops.


That's hilarious. I thought the exact same thing. We would have been seriously disappointed if we actually read the book.
 
2010-01-26 04:25:02 PM  
shadowself: Didn't read the thread, and I am sure I am echoing a lot of posts, but...

As much as I hate Scientology, submitter is a raging douchebag.


Really ... you think it is OK for celebrities to bump planes that have real aid so they can deliver their cult representatives (with a token amount of aid to justify their presence)?

As I said before: Whoever cleared this landing should be fired or court marshaled.
 
2010-01-26 04:27:18 PM  
And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:

www.info-about-alcoholism.com

being self-absorbed pricks.
 
2010-01-26 04:29:48 PM  
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something

There are nonreligious groups in Haiti doing good work.

If you mean personally, what are you doing?
 
2010-01-26 04:30:18 PM  
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:



being self-absorbed pricks.


Because convincing people to avoid real doctors and avoid getting real help is good in your eyes?
 
2010-01-26 04:32:13 PM  
GungFu: These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.


If it's the same group I heard interviewed on NPR, they were getting out because they were out of food, water, meds, and clothing. Their building was collapsed. What could they do, aside from beg for aid from other charities?
 
2010-01-26 04:32:39 PM  
amanogowa: Because convincing people to avoid real doctors and avoid getting real help is good in your eyes?

Don't visit those psychologists after barely surviving a horrifying disaster in which you lost your entire family and all your friends, and after you had to claw your way out from under a building after spending four days buried alive!

Those psychologists, they'll make you crazy!
 
2010-01-26 04:33:20 PM  
Epicedion: GungFu: These religious a-holes really get on my tits.

Any good that they do is always tainted by the fact that they have to do so via their beliefs and not just simple decent humanity. You're human, you have that humanity already, so leave it a home, a-holes.

One of the things which made me annoyed when the disaster happened was when a missionary group from the US were interviewed at the airport, and they were saying how glad they were to get a flight home. Jesus-farking H. Christ I wanna punch them in the head make them see some sense.

Why is there a cross on the Scientology t-shirt?


To fool people into believing they are a Christian group.
 
2010-01-26 04:33:43 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: jebusfreak: Snarfangel: By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.

Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.

It goes bing when there's stuff? Sounds like a timey wimey detector!


Approves!


img115.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-26 04:33:51 PM  
scott88008: As one of Fark's few (only?) Scientologists I won't attempt defend against the lies propagated by fringe groups on the net (akin to "truther" and "birther" groups which Farkers ironically disdain). I would only submit that if you look at the source material and talk to people who have benefited from the subject you might think differently. Scientology.org is a site sponsored by the church but is one of the few places to get the viewpoint of Scientology on the net.

Did my cousin Polly lie when she told the family that L.Ron tried to kill L.Ron Jr with a coathanger? She did bear scars from that little episode, both mental and physical, for the rest of her life. Y'all nearly drove her to insanity by calling her a filthy drunk and harrassing her.. You, and everyone else who thinks like you, can rott in the deepest crevice of a 400-pound ghetto camel-toe.
 
2010-01-26 04:34:53 PM  
Maximusclay: I'm not gonna fault the guy for flying over there with 6 tons of military ration food.

Sure, as an isolated factoid, ignoring all other factors, few would. The question is, do you fault him for slowing down the relief efforts by taking up valuable air- and runway space that is desperately needed for much larger cargo planes carrying much more significant payloads?

If not, why not?

If I hop in my (purely hypothetical) private plane and cause a similar disruption by flying in a dozen military rations and a therapeutic touch practitioner, am I a hero too?

If not, where's the line? Is one ton of supplies enough? Two?

Seems to me the right thing to do in this case would be to simply bring your supplies to one of the many, many donation centres so they can be delivered more efficiently along with the rest of the supplies. Wouldn't be much of a photo-op, though.
 
2010-01-26 04:36:44 PM  
Gawain: Maximusclay: I'm not gonna fault the guy for flying over there with 6 tons of military ration food.

Sure, as an isolated factoid, ignoring all other factors, few would. The question is, do you fault him for slowing down the relief efforts by taking up valuable air- and runway space that is desperately needed for much larger cargo planes carrying much more significant payloads?

If not, why not?

If I hop in my (purely hypothetical) private plane and cause a similar disruption by flying in a dozen military rations and a therapeutic touch practitioner, am I a hero too?

If not, where's the line? Is one ton of supplies enough? Two?

Seems to me the right thing to do in this case would be to simply bring your supplies to one of the many, many donation centres so they can be delivered more efficiently along with the rest of the supplies. Wouldn't be much of a photo-op, though.


Just bring me a six pack and some Ho-Ho's and touch me therapeutically. I'll call you a hero.
 
2010-01-26 04:36:55 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Bush had a hurricane machine and Obama has an Earthquake machine. We need to quit voting in people who have mini-doomsday devices. Simple as that.

/Or did the radical liberals (Farakah, Glover, Jackson, Kanye West) not believe Obama used his machine?


Speaking of an earthquake weapon (new window)...

/ I've seen this same article on sites other than Fox, and it still makes me LOL each time I read it.
 
2010-01-26 04:39:35 PM  
SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".
 
2010-01-26 04:40:48 PM  
William Shakesbeer: SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".


Well they did have a navy.
 
2010-01-26 04:40:54 PM  
DrillSergeantPoopyPants: And while all the schlub religious groups are in haiti actually doing something, the enlightened Fark atheists carry on with what they do best:

There are plenty of secular charities, from the Red Cross to Doctors without Borders to UNICEF that atheist groups have donated to. I've donated money to the Red Cross myself.

The difference is that Richard Dawkins isn't flying into Port au Prince with a pallet full of his books. That's why it looks like we're not doing anything.
 
2010-01-26 04:41:47 PM  
William Shakesbeer: SurfaceTension: Haiti doesn't have any money. What interest could Co$ possibly have down there?

Back in the 70's, Scientology had a very high priority of "taking" (taking over) an entire country, as a sort of global "foot in the door" toward taking over the entire world (no, I'm not making this up)...not sure if this is still a goal of theirs or not, but Haiti in its current state is the very definition of "fire sale".


That's very interesting. It would not surprise me. They could enslave the populace and have a "Land Org" to work alongside the Sea Org.
 
2010-01-26 04:42:02 PM  
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just as stupid. how bout confession. who's to say that your going to heaven cause you professed you guilt to man. are catholics brainwashed? probably. jews. some believe you can't speak of god and can only call him I. buddist believe in the circle of life. i can pick peices of all religions of their stupid beliefs. but does it make wrong to beleive in something? no. it's human nature to want to belong to something to beleive in something bigger.

yes scientology has alot of roots in the crowlites. cause he studied that religion before starting his own. the whole lady story is stolen word for word from crowley's teachings with a few tweaks to make it better. the whole belief in I "or myself" is stolen from satanism. these are a few flaw in sientology. but i can find alot in the bible too. a book created from documents with roman beliefs built in so a ruler could bolster his army.
 
2010-01-26 04:42:23 PM  
The Icelander: The difference is that Richard Dawkins isn't flying into Port au Prince with a pallet full of his books. That's why it looks like we're not doing anything we're not a bunch of self-important, predatory jackasses.

FTFY
 
2010-01-26 04:56:24 PM  
really weird, all those pictures of Travolta's son look like the son is either wearing heavy makeup, or has been airbrushed.
 
2010-01-26 05:04:35 PM  
What's the matter with me, Haiti, what's the matter with you?
 
2010-01-26 05:08:06 PM  
i can think of another religion who believes all medicine is bad and belief alone can cure anything.

scientology on the other hand is not anti medicine. they just have beliefs that certain fields are a bunch of crock and refuse to seek those doctors.
 
2010-01-26 05:13:12 PM  
Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??
 
2010-01-26 05:17:12 PM  
Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??



Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.
 
2010-01-26 05:17:37 PM  
Who covered the carbon footprint for his private airliner? These douchebags showing up is really akin to Christian missionaries showing up to exploit a bad situations. Must be because scienetology is under attack in France, but doenst France support Haiti in some ways? Hmmmmm
 
2010-01-26 05:29:16 PM  
Adjective Bird Whiskey 2010-01-26 10:11:35 AM I don't get it.
=============================================

Submitter is a trolling asshole.
 
2010-01-26 05:30:05 PM  
Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.


I read that in a dandy London voice. That made it extra funny.
 
2010-01-26 05:39:58 PM  
Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.


Tell that to bill pullman, ala serpent and the rainbow..
 
2010-01-26 05:43:03 PM  
ddam: BubbaWilkins: Click Click D'oh: Six tons of supplies is about 1/12th of what a C-17 could have flown in if Travolta hadn't taken a landing slot to get his name in the media.

The headline should read: Travolta prevents 66 tons of supplies from reaching Haiti.

Agreed. This is nothing but a photo-op and image boosting for Co$.

The difference between major faiths and Co$ is the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Mafia.

When the death tally due to Co$ catches up to the death tally of the Catholic church during... let's say the Inquisition (cuz there's no way in hell they'll catch up to the overall death tally due to the Catholic church overall) you'll have a point.


Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.
 
2010-01-26 05:46:32 PM  
hardinparamedic: Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.


Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. We know.
 
2010-01-26 05:47:59 PM  
scott88008 just came out of the closet

z.about.com



markhumphrys.com
 
2010-01-26 05:53:07 PM  
Somaticasual: Jeff73: Dirtysnipe: Co$ meets Voodo-

Who will win??


Voodoo at least has the decorum to wait until you die before turning you into a zombie.

Tell that to bill pullman, ala serpent and the rainbow..


And the less said about Voodoo Dick, the better.
 
2010-01-26 06:00:18 PM  
Epicedion: hardinparamedic: Really? The Inquisition killed 17,000 during the Spanish Inquisition. Do you know how many people have died in...oh...let's say the Nanking Massacre?

I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.

Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. We know.


Here. let me fix that for you.

Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. People using the feverent and disadvantaged by manipulating their beliefs have killed hundreds of millions through history.

Religion in itsself isn't an evil thing - it's the people who manipulate others through it that are. And again, the persecution of people based on religious beliefs by secular OR religious authorities have killed more people than religion ever has.
 
2010-01-26 06:03:55 PM  
He's just a creep with big jowls and bad gametes.
 
2010-01-26 06:11:08 PM  
(Goes to look up "gametes" to see if he's supposed to have them, and if so, how many)
 
2010-01-26 06:13:58 PM  
Gametes: Nope, don't have any since the surgery, and thank Buddha for that.
 
2010-01-26 06:14:57 PM  
hardinparamedic: Religion in itsself isn't an evil thing - it's the people who manipulate others through it that are. And again, the persecution of people based on religious beliefs by secular OR religious authorities have killed more people than religion ever has.

Belief informs actions. If you believe, for whatever reason (God told you to, Jews are ruining your country, it is your divine right, it is your nation's right to dominate all others, etc), it is your place to kill or otherwise harm other people, then your belief causes evil.

People love to parade around Hitler, Stalin, and Mao in particular to discredit atheism, as if those three carried out any of their actions under the banner of promoting anything other than their own nationalistic and personal power.

No one says "I don't believe in unicorns, so I'm going to go over and kill all those people in that nation that has all those things I want for my nation." That's absurd.

So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.
 
2010-01-26 06:23:01 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Snarfangel: Can you imagine if a religion built roads instead of cathedrals?

What would they pave it with? Good intentions?


haha I guess we gotta wait for the gold paved type,for the hereafter then.
 
2010-01-26 06:34:53 PM  
So what if he carted a few of his co$ doctors to Haiti? He did bring in a lot of aid, perhaps not as much as other cargo planes, but it is better than sitting home doing nothing like most of us.

Met John on a set once, very nice, he even held my 4 month old daughter.

/nuff
 
2010-01-26 06:50:45 PM  
Epicedion: So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.

To be fair, Zs are dead already.

\It's the Qs you've got to look out for
\\They don't freeze
 
2010-01-26 07:24:32 PM  
1. American authorities delay aid for days while moving in military personnel and armaments. Check.

2. American celebrities fly in for photo-ops in twee rowboats with bottled water or 707s full of old army rations, same difference. Check.

3. Native-born celebrities start banging the drums for their own charities, some more, some less effectively and honestly. Check.

4. Whack-a-tune American religious nutters blame the victims and point to devil-worship, ho-mo-sex-uals, etc. Check.

Four strikes, you're out!

WE HAVE KATRINA!

Now if we could only move the disaster to, oh, let's say, Tampa. No, wait Phoenix. I want to see how John McCain comports himself in a state of emergency in his base.

And how he reacts to losing one of his many houses--will he make a better showing than Trent Lott?

OK.

All Americans out of Haiti!

Please feel free to shoot a couple of French nationals on the way out. If you can find any Germans or Brits, shoot them too.

Either that or learn to trust poor black people a little bit more. Send in the guns WITH the butter, rather than instead of.

Ka-treeee-na! Ka-treeee-na! Ka-treeee-na! Hollywood actors and right wing loons, come out and play!
 
2010-01-26 07:31:42 PM  
They have solar bibles and scientology people heading there. Who wants to help me send Church of the Subgenius Legally Ordained Minister Kits to Haiti? Bob needs to be represented!

www.subgenius.com
 
2010-01-26 07:39:57 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: I agree...though I have yet to figure out what interest the CoS would have in some of the poorest people in the world.

Not exactly their target demographic.


Pre-earthquake this would hold true, but at present there are 3 demographics in Haiti:
A) Some of the poorest people in the world
B) Relief workers
C) High profile, wealthy celebrities who want to "get involved in things"

You know which one Scientology has their eye on.
 
2010-01-26 07:43:18 PM  
Quiz meters? Great fun at parties too. L Ron says soOriginal E-meter (new window)
 
2010-01-26 07:53:55 PM  
Epicedion: hardinparamedic: Religion in itsself isn't an evil thing - it's the people who manipulate others through it that are. And again, the persecution of people based on religious beliefs by secular OR religious authorities have killed more people than religion ever has.

Belief informs actions. If you believe, for whatever reason (God told you to, Jews are ruining your country, it is your divine right, it is your nation's right to dominate all others, etc), it is your place to kill or otherwise harm other people, then your belief causes evil.

People love to parade around Hitler, Stalin, and Mao in particular to discredit atheism, as if those three carried out any of their actions under the banner of promoting anything other than their own nationalistic and personal power.

No one says "I don't believe in unicorns, so I'm going to go over and kill all those people in that nation that has all those things I want for my nation." That's absurd.

So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.


Nice red herring and strawman there. There is no false distinction - to say that religion is inherently bad because it's used for evil purposes would also be to ignore that there are multifactoral reasons and manipulations of multiple belief systems, both religious and non-religious, in atrocities commited throughout history: Distilling them down to religion is both an oversimplification, and an insult on their historical significance.

And if you think no one says that, obviously you've never met a schitzophrenic.

Oh, and btw: Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Purges and Progress, and Mao's Cultural Revolutions that killed so many had a MAJOR basis in the elimination of groups of people based on their religious beliefs and heritages.

The red herring is that this was never a comment about atheism - Atheism was never even brought up here. What was brought up was your opinion, that all religions are evil and bad and will cause harm to humanity, when things are not black and white like you make them seem. Your exact comment was that the catholic church had killed more people than anyone else - a blatent lie and misrepresentation of facts.
 
2010-01-26 08:17:05 PM  
gorgor: He's going to put rubber hoses up their noses.

Made me laugh.

/like Arnold Horschack
 
2010-01-26 08:26:53 PM  
Urinal Gum: They have solar bibles and scientology people heading there. Who wants to help me send Church of the Subgenius Legally Ordained Minister Kits to Haiti? Bob needs to be represented!

Instead of sending your money to Haiti, just send it to "Bob". See, he has this machine, like a weather control machine, in Dobbstown Malaysia that he's using to control time. He's accelerating time for everyone and everything so the real X-Day will come that much sooner. The thing is, the machine is fueled by money. Each dollar gets us just a picosecond closer to X-Day and he has dumptrucks delivering loads of cash every hour. If you truly care, if you just can't wait to get to the ULTIMATE PUNCHLINE TO THE JOKE THAT IS EXISTENCE then send everything you have right now.
 
2010-01-26 08:28:35 PM  
Has anyone heard from Roberto Clemente's plane yet?

/too soon?
 
2010-01-26 08:35:16 PM  
Came for the pics of Kelly Preston (Mrs. Travolta), leaving horny and unfulfilled.
 
2010-01-26 08:47:18 PM  
hardinparamedic: Nice red herring and strawman there. There is no false distinction - to say that religion is inherently bad because it's used for evil purposes would also be to ignore that there are multifactoral reasons and manipulations of multiple belief systems, both religious and non-religious, in atrocities commited throughout history: Distilling them down to religion is both an oversimplification, and an insult on their historical significance.

I, of course, didn't say anything like that.

hardinparamedic: Oh, and btw: Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Purges and Progress, and Mao's Cultural Revolutions that killed so many had a MAJOR basis in the elimination of groups of people based on their religious beliefs and heritages.

More based on nationalism and excluding people that didn't fit the nationalist mold. Hitler didn't attack Jews because of their religion, he attacked the Jews because they weren't culturally or ethnically tied to his new empire -- which made the perfect focuses of hostility, since virtually everyone else in Europe felt the same way about them.

Stalin sought to replace the practice of religion with devotion to the State. Catholics, for example, were unwelcome, since they gave some of their allegiance to the Pope. Et cetera. Later, Soviet Russia took to replacing clergy with their own puppets.

Mao developed a cult of personality around himself. Which is self-serving enough that I think we can leave it at that.

hardinparamedic: The red herring is that this was never a comment about atheism - Atheism was never even brought up here.

When the topic turns to "look at all the damage religion has done," the religious tend to fight back with Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Those three specifically. Funny how they popped up here.

hardinparamedic: What was brought up was your opinion, that all religions are evil and bad and will cause harm to humanity, when things are not black and white like you make them seem. Your exact comment was that the catholic church had killed more people than anyone else - a blatent lie and misrepresentation of facts.

I, again, didn't say anything like that either. Bravo on your inability to read.

Specifically, I said:
Epicedion: Stop comparing penis sizes between religions and nationalistic dictators. You all killed lots of people. We know.

and

hardinparamedic: So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.

There's a big difference between saying that nations use whatever justifications they want to go kill other people, and that thing you said I said.

You're trying to draw a distinction between religious and nonreligious thinking by saying:

hardinparamedic: I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.

How so? Because, again, you brought up the Big Three that religious people use to prove that religion is somehow less damaging than nonreligion. It's not as subtle as you may have intended.

The real problem is not religion, and it's not nonreligion. The real problem is ambitious people convincing other people to do bad things for what they state as good reasons.
 
2010-01-26 08:48:14 PM  
Diogenes: How about "partially" lying? What do you think Co$ doctors and ministers are there to do?

Co$ can't get blood from a stone. They're all about the money and Haiti has less than none.

Strangely it would appear they are doing this mission out of the goodness of their cold, black, greedy hearts.
 
2010-01-26 08:48:58 PM  
Epicedion: hardinparamedic: So yes, stop putting up the false distinction between the Crusades and other nationalistic atrocities. They're all the same thing. Nation X uses belief Y to justify going to kill a bunch of people in Z.

This was actually my quote, I apparently pulled it from your post.
 
2010-01-26 08:56:57 PM  
Came for the pics of Kelly Preston.

/Leaving disappointed.
 
2010-01-26 09:04:39 PM  
Fano: And the less said about Voodoo Dick, the better.


Voodoo dick, my ass!
 
2010-01-26 09:15:34 PM  
nekom:
It certainly seems to have no practical use.


Of course it has a practical use: extracting lots of money from silly people.
 
2010-01-26 09:29:15 PM  
You never hear of Tinites (new window) involved in scandals.
Hail Ebeneezer Squeezer!


mulley.net
 
2010-01-26 09:42:50 PM  
To be fair, copies of Dianetics may be handy. They're probably having a helluva time trying to bring in firewood for cooking right now.
 
2010-01-26 10:14:01 PM  
Is there no open area in Haiti? Why not have all these people biatching that they cannot land there land in Florida and offload. Set up a drop zone and drop it in. AF gets some good training in and Haiti gets some supplies.
 
2010-01-26 10:14:36 PM  
It's too bad that the article said that he was taking along "doctors and ministers from the Church of Scientology" instead of "doctors, and ministers from the Church of Scientology".
 
2010-01-26 10:16:22 PM  
jake3988: Adjective Bird Whiskey 2010-01-26 10:11:35 AM I don't get it.
=============================================

Submitter is a trolling asshole.


Now, now. Everyone knows Scientology is just ridiculous and deserves any and derision and criticism. It's just silly.

Mormons, too.
 
2010-01-26 10:45:14 PM  
Headso: Diogenes: but Co$' practice of exploiting tragedies is undeniable.

They are just following an existing template.


and that somehow absolves them of responsibility for their actions?
 
2010-01-26 10:47:01 PM  
Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

You are an arse-wipe: Fark headlines typically carry a themed joke, you've been here long enough to know that.

Bedsides, Scientology makes as much sense as any other "religion".
 
2010-01-26 11:34:08 PM  
Where's the attention whore signs? It's completely for the publicity for Travolta and his royal biotch wife.
 
2010-01-26 11:49:49 PM  
hardinparamedic:
I hate to break this to you, but the persecution of religion and peoples for religious beliefs have killed far more people than religions have. Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people in a 35 year span than have died in most of the wars and disasters in history combined.


---

That's nice.

Hitler [Godwin BTW] used the Catholic church and repeatedly said God was behind the Fazerland.
Stalin did castrate the Russian Orthodox, however, he did use it's skeletal remains in the outlying regions to spread the word of Uncle Joe.
Mao is an interesting case. Chinese spirituality is far more complex and subtle than any Western religion could ever hope to be. The Chinese government itself may take no direct stance on religion. But, they're a very spiritual people and Mao was no exception.

Thank you for playing, but I'm wearing a kilt. Therefore, your argument in invalid.

/Good day, sir.
 
2010-01-26 11:50:39 PM  
Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

Apparently you are completely unaware of what a Scientology Volunteer Minister is and what they do when they get to a disaster scene.

These guys are running around the hospitals giving "touch assists" and teaching people how to use Scientology techniques to "reattach their nerves".

The last thing anybody in a disaster needs is another 100 folks getting in the way at the hospitals teaching the poor and uneducated that L. Ron Hubbard had anything useful to say about religion, philosophy, medicine, or anything at all really.

Read some more stories about what's happening with the Scientology Vulture Ministers in Haiti. They are all over trying to spread Dianetics to the people.
 
2010-01-27 12:00:55 AM  
Can we as a society bring a civil suit against scientology for disturbing the peace?
 
2010-01-27 12:04:44 AM  
Snarfangel: Suede head: So... is he a gay or not? I'm confused.

I thought Tom Cruise was the gay Scientologist.


They both are queer.

Travolta's gay gym trainer Paul Baressi came out and exposed his gay affair with Travolta, after Travolta sued, there was a deal made, and Baresi changed his mind and said all that gay sex he'd been having with Travolta over the years must have been in his imagination.

Within weeks or maybe months of the gay allegations being reported, Travolta was paired off with fellow Scientologist Kelly Preston and married her.

/Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2010-01-27 12:08:22 AM  
scalpod: Urinal Gum: They have solar bibles and scientology people heading there. Who wants to help me send Church of the Subgenius Legally Ordained Minister Kits to Haiti? Bob needs to be represented!

Instead of sending your money to Haiti, just send it to "Bob". See, he has this machine, like a weather control machine, in Dobbstown Malaysia that he's using to control time. He's accelerating time for everyone and everything so the real X-Day will come that much sooner. The thing is, the machine is fueled by money. Each dollar gets us just a picosecond closer to X-Day and he has dumptrucks delivering loads of cash every hour. If you truly care, if you just can't wait to get to the ULTIMATE PUNCHLINE TO THE JOKE THAT IS EXISTENCE then send everything you have right now.


Oh, you need something to live on! No, sell everything you have, and take half of your money and send it to Bob. Then, with what's left over, take half of that and send it to Bob. Next, you'll want to take half of your remaining money and send it to Bob...and so on. That way, you will never run out of money!
 
2010-01-27 12:42:03 AM  
John Travolta *IS* pretty tubby these days.

I think he did bring useful supplies to the starving Haitians.
A buffet of chubby white well-fed moronic "Long Pigs" all chock full of healthy Niacin.

// Please let tomorrow's headline be "John Travolta and Scientology saves 85 Haitians from starvation by graciously volunteering to be their next meaty dinner."

// On the other hand a person does need a lot of illegal narcotics to even lower the intelligence level enough to believe anything in the Scientology scam-books. That could be toxic to a Haitian that has never eaten a person who has been snorting cocaine like a Dust Vac.
 
2010-01-27 12:50:25 AM  
Fark Trek: Did they let them land? If I were the CO, i would have turned them away as a distraction.

Nah, let them land. Then drive them out into the Haitian boonies. Abandon them.
Then donate their private jet to the Red Cross.

Congratulations. John Travolta and company are now permanent citizens of Haiti!

// Nothing says, "Colossal over-fed ego than a cocaine-junky flying down to a starving nation demolished by an earthquake than the charity of offering 'Auditing' and paper. It's like a hostile visit from the IRS on Christmas with twenty times more jackassery."
 
2010-01-27 12:52:48 AM  
DirtyOldGeek: This just in: subby is a farking idiot.

Travolta brought in 6 tons of supplies and a few Scientology corporate executives...I mean...ministers.

Good on ya John for the supplies.


Oh God, he hauled Christy Alley down there plus the toilet-paper literature?

Run for your lives Haitians!
She looks hungry!
 
2010-01-27 01:46:44 AM  
jebusfreak: Snarfangel: By giving away high-quality E-meters for free, they are going to drive all of the Haitian E-meter manufacturers out of business.

Has anyone actually read the patent for the E-meter? It's basically a machine that goes "bing," but instead of the bing, it lights up an LED.


I thought it was a resistance measuring machine at base.

Monty Python should sue Scientology though. For teh lulz, if nothing else.
 
2010-01-27 01:49:58 AM  
She comes in colors everywhere: She comes in colors everywhere: Anyone else ever think Scientology is just the sort of bet someone like Heinlein would have made with L Ron?

It would go like this:

L. Ron: Hey, Robert. I liked the way you created a whole religion in Stranger In A Strange Land. I'd like to try that.
Heinlein: Yeah, but that was fiction. There aren't any Martians or Old Ones. You can't grok someone by eating them, in real life.
L. Ron: But it would be neat to do it. I bet it would work.
Heinlein: Ten bucks says you can't do it.
L. Ron: You're on.

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The whole secrecy thing, learning body control, etc. It's Church of All Worlds with different phlebotinum.


Do the Scientologists have giant sex orgies and practice cannibalism? If not they are infinitely inferior to the religion of Stranger and a Strange Land.

However, the idea that Scientology was started on a bet is an old one. It's usually between Hubbard and Heinlein or. . . Asimov I think. Supposedly Stranger in a Strange Land was Heinlein's try. I doubt it's true, though I do think Hubbard used it as a get rich scheme and eventually bought into his own hype.
 
2010-01-27 01:57:57 AM  
GOOD ON YOU JOHNNY
 
2010-01-27 03:22:42 AM  
snuff3r: Meh, CoS, Christians, {insert_religion}, etc. All the farking same. The leaders take advantage of followers wanting to help people in need to spread their "religion" whether they are complicit or not. Why do you think religious groups come out en-masse during times of crisis.

Can I insert a political movement or organizational agenda? Or are these things considered out of scope for the bashing at hand?

Seriously, bashing religion alone for this is a little myopic, don't you think?

Never mind, I'll go back to my own business of spreading American freedom like mayonnaise over the sandwich of the globe. Just don't ask for a side order of prosperity - I'm a selfish bastard and reserve this right unto myself. I will, however, make sure my own prosperity is built on the back of your freedom. You should be grateful, thankless vermin. My taxes paid for your freedom and my socially unwanted bled for it when you refused to adopt it. All praise and glory go to Wal-Mart and its prophet, Barry Obama. Amen.
 
2010-01-27 03:38:08 AM  
Cagey B: Religious organizations have never before used relief efforts as an opportunity to proselytize.

If they are spending their own money on providing a needed service, who cares if they are passing out a religious pamphlet with each bag of rice, or vaccine, or doctor visit, or whatever.
 
2010-01-27 09:01:58 AM  
I clicked on the article expecting to be angry, but instead I get Travolta flying a 707 stuffed to the gills with MREs and doctors (and, well, yeah, some Co$ ministers). Too much exaggeration = fail, subby.
 
2010-01-27 10:17:50 AM  
Supplies = great.
Scientology "ministers" = not so much.

If the "ministers" go down there & help pass out supplies & actually do productive work to help out, that's awesome. But if they're just going down to recruit a bunch of people for their "religion", well... that's kind of a dick move.

And you know that's what's happening.
 
2010-01-27 10:46:20 AM  
meh, like it really matters anyways, Haitians can't afford to be scientologists anyhow
 
2010-01-27 11:59:53 AM  
flamingboard: SouthParkCon: flamingboard: somebody found another set of mormon gold plates in the rubble and they're flying down their best hats to read them out of.

You really should STFU (new window) and take your idiocy elsewhere. Hate on the mormons all you want but 9 times outa 10 they are first on the scene helping with food, water and the neccesities. (new window)

woke up on the wrong side of the bible today i see.


If your town/city is hit by a disaster and some faith based relief agency shows up I'm sure you will turn in disgust and die in a corner.
 
2010-01-27 01:20:16 PM  
SouthParkCon: If your town/city is hit by a disaster and some faith based relief agency shows up I'm sure you will turn in disgust and die in a corner.

If they run around perpetrating some sort of "theraputic touch" fraud and discouraging psychological therapy in the wake of trauma, then the space they are taking up could be better utilized by someone else.
 
2010-01-27 01:42:41 PM  
atomic-age: What could they do, aside from beg for aid from other charities?

Pray to their God and assist others in any way they could, rather than relying on secular authorities to transport them to a better place?

Naaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

/late to the party, but I was MOVED to speak!
 
2010-01-27 04:29:00 PM  
Desmo: Headso: I like to shiat on Scientology too but no point in totally lying in the headline to do it.

You are an arse-wipe: Fark headlines typically carry a themed joke, you've been here long enough to know that.

Bedsides, Scientology makes as much sense as any other "religion".


All non-SubGenius "religion" is just mental illness on a global scale.
 
2010-01-27 04:30:33 PM  
Urinal Gum: scalpod: Urinal Gum: They have solar bibles and scientology people heading there. Who wants to help me send Church of the Subgenius Legally Ordained Minister Kits to Haiti? Bob needs to be represented!

Instead of sending your money to Haiti, just send it to "Bob". See, he has this machine, like a weather control machine, in Dobbstown Malaysia that he's using to control time. He's accelerating time for everyone and everything so the real X-Day will come that much sooner. The thing is, the machine is fueled by money. Each dollar gets us just a picosecond closer to X-Day and he has dumptrucks delivering loads of cash every hour. If you truly care, if you just can't wait to get to the ULTIMATE PUNCHLINE TO THE JOKE THAT IS EXISTENCE then send everything you have right now.

Oh, you need something to live on! No, sell everything you have, and take half of your money and send it to Bob. Then, with what's left over, take half of that and send it to Bob. Next, you'll want to take half of your remaining money and send it to Bob...and so on. That way, you will never run out of money!


Clearly you've had your Third Nostril opened. Now, if we can just get you back on a regular schedule for Accubeatings you'll be all set!
 
2010-01-27 05:12:41 PM  
I think CoS is the biggest scam ever(meaning I wish I'd thought of it) but I will cut Travolta some slack here. He owns a jet, he filled it full of stuff, he flew it down and dropped it off. It wouldn't surprise me if he paid for the fuel to go.

Off the top of your head how many bibles you think have been dropped in disaster areas through the years. Or priests for that matter.

/religion is always about promoting religion.
//if they are legitimate doctors I wouldn't care what line of faith they pursued if I need one.
 
2010-01-27 09:59:49 PM  
gadian: And in Haitian mythology, lo it came to pass that Saint Travolta folded his wings and landed on Haiti's shores. He brought with him the knowledge and the truth. He brought with him great prophets of infinite wisdom. He brought with him this machine that goes 'bing', but instead of going 'bing' it just lights up. Thus the country was saved. Thus the country was enlightened. Thus all suffering ended and that 30ft bull monster was vanquished. As it is written, so shall it be.

"True story!"
 
2010-01-27 11:05:09 PM  
Cid_Highwind: I clicked on the article expecting to be angry, but instead I get Travolta flying a 707 stuffed to the gills with MREs and doctors (and, well, yeah, some Co$ ministers). Too much exaggeration = fail, subby.

Guess you missed the part where Travolta's plane jumped the queue and got ahead of the 800 planes full of real aid.

It was a publicity stunt which blocked more efficient sources of aid ... nothing more.
 
2010-01-28 03:29:07 AM  
Syphilis_Smile: Did my cousin Polly lie when she told the family that L.Ron tried to kill L.Ron Jr with a coathanger? She did bear scars from that little episode, both mental and physical, for the rest of her life. Y'all nearly drove her to insanity by calling her a filthy drunk and harrassing her.. You, and everyone else who thinks like you, can rott in the deepest crevice of a 400-pound ghetto camel-toe.


I just noticed this post. Can you elaborate on that? Because wow.
 
2010-01-28 02:48:59 PM  
Paris1127: CtrlAltDelete: This is what they do when they get there. Seriously.


/when do the snake handlers arrive to aid the Haitians?


As soon as they can get Samuel L Jackson's flight booked.
 
2010-01-28 04:40:51 PM  
scalpod: All non-SubGenius "religion" is just mental illness on a global scale.


The pipelover heretics must be destroyed.

i47.tinypic.com
 
2010-01-28 06:16:43 PM  
Jeff73: scalpod: All non-SubGenius "religion" is just mental illness on a global scale.

The pipelover heretics must be destroyed.


You Erisians better watch yourselves, we have the death sentence in EVERY SYSTEM.
 
2010-01-28 11:37:38 PM  
Farking Canuck: It was a publicity stunt which blocked more efficient sources of aid ... nothing more.

Pfft. Blocked? You realize by the time you've all been garbling your wharrs about how much travolta sucks for having the audacity to fly down there, the "blockage" is already cleared, right?

Jesus christ you people whine too much.
 
2010-01-29 12:28:45 AM  
scalpod: You Erisians better watch yourselves, we have the death sentence in EVERY SYSTEM.


Them's words that beg a disarming. Not that I worry for we wield the impotent protonerdrage of Bob Black.
 
2010-01-29 01:27:33 AM  
Jeff73: scalpod: You Erisians better watch yourselves, we have the death sentence in EVERY SYSTEM.

Them's words that beg a disarming. Not that I worry for we wield the impotent protonerdrage of Bob Black.


While that's all news to me I'm not entirely surprised by any of it and it changes nothing. I don't get any more worked up over the accusations of your typical Deanie either. As a Discordian pope (and who ain't?) I ask you, start any good wars (or good jokes) lately?
 
2010-01-29 01:42:25 AM  
scalpod: While that's all news to me I'm not entirely surprised by any of it and it changes nothing. I don't get any more worked up over the accusations of your typical Deanie either. As a Discordian pope (and who ain't?) I ask you, start any good wars (or good jokes) lately?


Jokes yes, good or true wars is subjective though I claim yes regardless but I am biased.
 
2010-01-29 02:43:24 AM  
Jeff73: scalpod: While that's all news to me I'm not entirely surprised by any of it and it changes nothing. I don't get any more worked up over the accusations of your typical Deanie either. As a Discordian pope (and who ain't?) I ask you, start any good wars (or good jokes) lately?

Jokes yes, good or true wars is subjective though I claim yes regardless but I am biased.


I'm biased for "Bob" it's true, but I'm no Ivangelical. I hadn't heard of this particular 20+ year old grudge match but there are *just so darned many*. Donating and helping to raise money to pay Robert Anton Wilson's rent and heating bills when he was dying and forgotten about by many of his own 'flock' should count for something but you're right, trying to kill someone with a flash bulb is pretty rotten in retrospect.

That Stang, he's just incorrigible. Of course, I never hear about Philo getting into this sort trouble but that's probably because he has G Gordon Gordon kill all the witnesses.

Knocking SubGenius by bolding 'Sub'? S'pity most DIScordians can't come up with an original snub unless it's been gilt and inscribed for them.
 
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