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(Cracked)   The Gary Busey Defense and six other police myths that television taught us   (cracked.com) divider line 176
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2010-01-21 02:59:35 PM  
The Devil made me do it.
 
2010-01-21 03:01:12 PM  
Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.
 
2010-01-21 03:02:58 PM  
Is cops going on kill crazy rampages on the list? God damn Guardo.
 
2010-01-21 03:03:32 PM  
How about the myth that police evidence teams are personally concerned with every case they come across and are willing to break the rules to make sure that justice is done?
 
2010-01-21 03:03:40 PM  
The CSI one always pisses me off. I've actually seen (what used to be) the LV CSI and it's basically a High School Chem lab.

(cool story bro) Served on Jury Duty about 3 years ago and we ended up with a hung jury on what was otherwise a pretty open and shut car theft case because, according to the moron holdout juror, the cops provided no DNA evidence linking the car thief to the car he obviously stole. (/cool story bro)
 
2010-01-21 03:04:01 PM  
Twinkies made me do it.
 
2010-01-21 03:04:42 PM  
(see the 1972 Supreme Court case Nebraska vs Heywood Jablome).

That's always good for a giggle.
 
2010-01-21 03:04:50 PM  
see the 1972 Supreme Court case Nebraska vs Heywood Jablome

I love it when they include references
 
2010-01-21 03:04:55 PM  
Can't get the site. A lil' help?
 
2010-01-21 03:05:31 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com

/obligatory for the first item on the list
 
2010-01-21 03:06:22 PM  
Step 1: Troll the Fark sidebar for Cracked links.
Step 2: Add a non-funny headline.
Step 3: ...ugh, too un-funny for a 3rd step.
 
2010-01-21 03:06:38 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Can't get the site. A lil' help?

Hollywood has never been afraid to sacrifice realism for the sake of an entertaining story. And since pretty much every movie or TV show features the police in some way, we as an audience get fed a lot of total horseshiat about how the law works and how cops operate in the USA.

But as most of us are on the outside of the judicial system (for the moment) we usually don't even realize that what we're being told is incorrect. So we just accept things like...

#7.Forensic Science is Magic


As Seen On:

The various CSI shows, Bones

Typical Scenario:

There has been a murder. While the regular cops are all wasting time talking about "witnesses," "motives" and "evidence," the CSI team walks in and gets shiat done. Within seconds they find a single hair, scan it with a green laser and discover the identity of the killer, saving countless lives with their ingenious magical science. Hell, the CSI team will even pack up their guns and go arrest the guy!


His one mistake was having hair.

Why it's Bullshiat:

First, do you have any idea how much random DNA you are carrying on the soles of your shoes this very instant? A hair from that bank clerk across town, gum from a Pakistani cab driver and semen from an undetermined source are all probably crawling around down there, ready to be tracked through a crime scene.

Also, certain laboratory tests such as DNA samples, toxicology and blood reports can take weeks or even months to process, and when they do finally arrive, they are about as clear cut as the plot to The Phantom Menace.


"Wait, they're racing now?"

Also, while DNA criminal databases do exist, less than 1/10th of all criminals are a part of it. Having a bit of DNA doesn't mean shiat unless they have something to compare it to.

That means the CSI stuff is less about finding the killer and more about making sure they have enough evidence to convict the guy they've already pinpointed as a suspect through old-fashioned police work.



CSI is really just another victim of bad Hollywood science, kind of an extension of their "computers are magic" philosophy. It's appealing to think that any problem--even crime--can be stopped cold by nothing but the power of science and human intellect. Add a few dead hookers and an exploding car to the mix and you have the recipe for television success, baby.

#6.The Insanity Defense Lets You Get Away With Murder


As Seen On:

Law and Order, Primal Fear, A Time to Kill

Typical Scenario:

So things aren't looking so great: The cops caught you stabbing a priest, which you have found out is illegal in your city. Fortunately, your lawyer is Richard Gere, and the two of you combine to convince the jury that you are insane, and that the crime was carried out by one of your multiple personalities.


The man who defends himself has a fool for a lawyer. The man who hires Richard Gere has a sentient nose for a lawyer.

You get off, innocent by reason of insanity! Congratulations, a couple of months at the mental hospital and you'll be back on the streets!

Why it's Bullshiat:

Obviously if the legal system had this kind of Get Out of Jail Free loophole, the prisons would be empty. In reality, the Insanity Defense is attempted in less than one percent of all legal cases, which essentially means that more people have tried to pin their crimes on aliens or their evil twin rather than their own basket case, shoelace-eating lunacy.


"No no, it was my brother, Larry Busey!"

Of that tiny fraction where the lawyer was even willing to try it, the defense is successful less than 25 percent of the time. Three states in the US don't even allow insanity as a defense.

Then, in that tiny, tiny fraction of cases where the guy "got off" because he convinced the court he was insane, he doesn't get to just go home. You get sent to a mental institution where you don't have a set sentence at all--they keep you as long as they see fit, which may be forever. You're there until "deemed safe to return to society", which according to the American Psychiatric Association is usually twice as long as the jail sentence would have been.


Hope you like white gowns and staph infections!

This has always been one of those situations where people simply want to believe the system is worse than it is. We can't escape the idea that the courts are too soft on the bad guys and that guilty people are running free left and right. Besides, what is insanity, anyway? Can't you say that anyone who willingly kills another human being is "insane"? Won't giving these guys a free pass based on a little craziness bring the whole system down?

Yes, it would. Which is why the courts don't do it.

#5.Not Talking To Cops Equals Obstruction of Justice


As Seen On:

Law And Order, Numb3rs
Typical Scenario:

The hunt for the bad guy is on and his girlfriend/mother/dog might know where he's hiding. Jerry Orbach barges into their workplace demanding to know where said bad guy is laying low.



They don't want to cooperate with the cops, so they stay silent or develop sudden amnesia. Well that's just too damn bad, because Detective Briscoe says not cooperating with the police is called obstruction of justice and that'll get you a minimum of five years of rapetastic jail time.


"Starting to remember where your dad is now, Timmy?"

Why it's Bullshiat:

Specifically, the 5th Amendment makes it bullshiat. We, on the whole, don't really understand the 5th Amendment, because it has a really shiatty marketing department and today is virtually synonymous with fat union gangsters hiding behind it like RoboCop is chasing them. Somebody "taking the 5th" means they're guilty, right?


Not everyone who gets arrested is an Italian-American stereotype.

No, it means under no circumstances can you be coerced into being a witness against yourself. And, since at the moment they speak to you, you don't know if you're a suspect or not, that means you always have the right to not talk to the police.

Now, obstruction of justice is a real thing, and it can be charged when you lie to the cops, destroy evidence or otherwise intentionally fark up their investigation. But simply refusing to talk to them is not one of those things.

Note, however, that police do have the right to ask you to identify yourself in many states, in which case you do have to tell them who you are. And you do have to give them real answers (see the 1972 Supreme Court case Nebraska vs Heywood Jablome).

#4.Undercover Cops Have To Identify Themselves If Asked


As Seen On:

Rush, Deep Cover, Monk
Typical Scenario:

An undercover police officer is meeting with a big time kingpin who wants to purchase some drugs/prostitutes in one the biggest drug/prostitution stings in years. It took months to establish the officer's rep on the streets all for this moment... and just then the kingpin asks the fatal question: "Are you a cop?"

The officer has no choice but to identify himself as a member of the police force and the entire operation goes to hell.


"It's OK, we actually knew the whole time."

Why it's Bullshiat:

This is one of those tension-building devices in undercover cop movies (ie there's a tense scene in the Laurence Fishburne movie Deep Cover where he's forced to answer "yes" when asked the "are you a cop" question, then play it off as sarcasm) but even if asked directly, police officers have no obligation to blow their cover and get shot in the balls.

This makes sense if you think about it, since if that were really the rule there would be no sting operations whatsoever. Even the dumbest crackhead would remember to always ask his new supplier if he is a cop before each purchase.



Likewise for prostitution stings where the police pose as customers, then slap on the cuffs as soon as there's talk of blowjobs for cash. No, it's not entrapment, ladies.


Legally, it can't be entrapment without Sean Connery.
 
2010-01-21 03:07:15 PM  
How the Chewbacca Defense did not end up on the list is beyond me.
 
2010-01-21 03:07:31 PM  
jehovahs witness protection: (see the 1972 Supreme Court case Nebraska vs Heywood Jablome).

That's always good for a giggle.


I've always been partial to 1976 Supreme Court case Ohio vs Gene Masseth
 
2010-01-21 03:07:58 PM  
WTF Indeed: Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.


"It's heroin!"

....


"Oh wait, nope, it's cyanide"

...

"fark"
 
2010-01-21 03:08:17 PM  
ENHANCE
 
2010-01-21 03:08:32 PM  
WTF Indeed
Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.

A cop friend of mine said he did that once. It deadened his tongue.
 
2010-01-21 03:08:47 PM  
In before whining about Cracked links.
 
2010-01-21 03:09:11 PM  
I don't recommend using Cracked for legal advice.
 
2010-01-21 03:09:30 PM  
That was one of the pretty funny Cracked articles. When they get a hit, they usually put some runners on base.
 
2010-01-21 03:10:26 PM  
Quasar: In before whining about Cracked links.

Not so fast.

Jetty Cat Army: Step 1: Troll the Fark sidebar for Cracked links.
Step 2: Add a non-funny headline.
Step 3: ...ugh, too un-funny for a 3rd step.
 
2010-01-21 03:11:16 PM  
Coolfusis: WTF Indeed: Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.


"It's heroin!"

....


"Oh wait, nope, it's cyanide"

...

"fark"



No wait... anthrax!
 
2010-01-21 03:11:23 PM  
ga362: A cop friend of mine said he did that once. It deadened his tongue.

Which is why it's used as a dental anaesthetic.

www.martingordon.org
 
2010-01-21 03:12:18 PM  
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2010-01-21 03:14:57 PM  
Gunny Highway: Quasar: In before whining about Cracked links.

Not so fast.

Jetty Cat Army: Step 1: Troll the Fark sidebar for Cracked links.
Step 2: Add a non-funny headline.
Step 3: ...ugh, too un-funny for a 3rd step.


I considered it. He seemed to be complaining more about laziness than Cracked being unfunny, but now that I re-read, I suppose you are correct.
 
2010-01-21 03:15:25 PM  
 
2010-01-21 03:19:44 PM  
I enjoyed the obvious law and order rip on not speaking to the police constituting obstruction. If you pay attention to law and order, its kind of terrifying- the false arrests, the nonsense guess work, the "rough and ready" with the civil rights of suspects....
 
2010-01-21 03:20:59 PM  
My favorite TV/movie short-cut is the Edit of Power. Someone has to be across town in few minutes? Just Edit!
 
2010-01-21 03:21:46 PM  
img251.imageshack.us

Click to embiggen. Then click a couple of more times for full size.
 
2010-01-21 03:23:12 PM  
I want my computer to make all those cool beeps and whistles and electronic scanny sounds when I pull shiat up. Oh, and how can I get a new keyboard with the old-school sounding IBM clacking keys?
 
2010-01-21 03:25:48 PM  
Ponzholio: tortilla burger: ENHANCE

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (new window)


Hahahahahaha. That is beautiful.
 
2010-01-21 03:27:46 PM  
ga362: WTF Indeed
Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.

A cop friend of mine said he did that once. It deadened his tongue.


[fantasy]
Cop: What's this, O'Bedlam? (shaking small sealed aliquot of white powder he picked up in the share lab reagent rack)
Me: You should leave that alone. Seriously.
Cop: Hah! (opens container, puts some on tongue)
Me: No. Don't. Stop.
Cop: It doesn't taste at all...what is that?
Me: Thallium sulfate.
[/fantasy]
 
2010-01-21 03:29:08 PM  
DaveNukem: how can I get a new keyboard with the old-school sounding IBM clacking keys?

Buy one. They're only $70, and should last you for a very long time.
 
2010-01-21 03:29:19 PM  
Quasar: seemed to be complaining more about laziness than Cracked being unfunny, but now that I re-read, I suppose you are

To clarify my position, I was commenting on the laziness of submitting links already available from the Fark mainpage. And then the double-laziness of barely changing the headline from the original. And then after summoning the energy to slightly change the headline, doing nothing to improve on the non-funniness of the entire situation.

I do enjoy a good Cracked list every so often. This one is middle-of-the-road funny...
 
2010-01-21 03:30:52 PM  
theorellior
ga362: A cop friend of mine said he did that once. It deadened his tongue.

Which is why it's used as a dental anaesthetic.


Several years ago, doctors would prescribe it mixed with KY Jelly. Great for hemorrhoids.
 
2010-01-21 03:31:11 PM  
WTF Indeed: Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.

It might be urban legend, but I remember hearing many years ago about a cop that ended up in the loony bin for a few weeks after doing that with some LSD that was on it's way to be pressed into tabs.
 
2010-01-21 03:31:43 PM  
sboyle1020: The Devil made me do it.

Decent movie.
 
2010-01-21 03:32:48 PM  
Ponzholio: ortilla burger: ENHANCE

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (new window)


Damn.
 
2010-01-21 03:32:52 PM  
The first thing to come to mind was the ol' "You gotta tell me if you're a cop!" That one's always infuriated me.

Glad to see they got it covered.
 
2010-01-21 03:33:10 PM  
DaveNukem: I want my computer to make all those cool beeps and whistles and electronic scanny sounds when I pull shiat up. Oh, and how can I get a new keyboard with the old-school sounding IBM clacking keys?

Might as well ask for one of those LCDs that somehow projects focused text and images onto your face.
 
2010-01-21 03:34:10 PM  
DaveNukem: Oh, and how can I get a new keyboard with the old-school sounding IBM clacking keys?

Das Keyboard ^
 
2010-01-21 03:35:25 PM  
Ponzholio: tortilla burger: ENHANCE

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (new window)


I recognize a couple of the source images for that. They come from the greatest CSI clip ever.
 
2010-01-21 03:37:02 PM  
I think superbad took care of #7

"When I first joined the force I assumed there was semen on everything. I thought there was a semen database that had every bad guys semen in it. There isnt. That doesn't exist. It be nice. Like the crime scene today. If the man had ejaculated and then hit you in the face we would have a real good shot at catching him."
 
2010-01-21 03:37:28 PM  
DaveNukem: I want my computer to make all those cool beeps and whistles and electronic scanny sounds when I pull shiat up. Oh, and how can I get a new keyboard with the old-school sounding IBM clacking keys?

Oh, cut the bleeding heart crap, will ya? We've all got our switches, lights, and knobs to deal with, DaveNukem. I mean, down here there are literally hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping, and flashing lights, blinking and beeping and flashing - they're *flashing* and they're *beeping*. I can't stand it anymore! They're *blinking* and *beeping* and *flashing*! Why doesn't somebody pull the plug!
 
2010-01-21 03:37:44 PM  
This is why I eat a lot of Twinkies. I hear that works.
 
2010-01-21 03:37:57 PM  
TommyymmoT: WTF Indeed: Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.

It might be urban legend, but I remember hearing many years ago about a cop that ended up in the loony bin for a few weeks after doing that with some LSD that was on it's way to be pressed into tabs.


You're either mocking some urban legend I'm unfamiliar with or unaware that LSD is a liquid.
 
2010-01-21 03:38:03 PM  
ga362

Several years ago, doctors would prescribe it mixed with KY Jelly. Great for hemorrhoids.



As well as first time anal.


/forgot invoking "Diplomatic Immunity" for capital crimes.
 
2010-01-21 03:39:04 PM  
TommyymmoT: WTF Indeed: Forgot the one where the cop cuts open a bag full of random white powder and tastes it with his finger.

It might be urban legend, but I remember hearing many years ago about a cop that ended up in the loony bin for a few weeks after doing that with some LSD that was on it's way to be pressed into tabs.


I've never seen nor heard of LSD in powdered form. Unless he tasted some clear liquid I would have a hard time believing this story.

I'd go look it up but I already have 10 open tabs I'm trying to get through.
 
2010-01-21 03:40:34 PM  
Cops don't fire warning shots. They would probably miss anyway.
 
2010-01-21 03:40:46 PM  
You know... I really like Cracked articles. Some of you just have weird obsession against Cracked.
 
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