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(YouTube)   Richard Winters, Commander of Easy Company during World War II, turns 92 today. Here's a clip from "Band of Brothers"   (youtube.com) divider line 249
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2010-01-21 09:48:35 AM  
Happy Birthday, Sir.
 
2010-01-21 09:49:07 AM  
I'd submit a reply, but after reviewing the clip (I've seen the series about four times through), I seem to have something in my eye. Thanks to all the heroes, men and women, who sacrificed then and now; the rest of us have the task of making their service count.
 
2010-01-21 09:57:30 AM  
I own BOB on DVD and I watch it every year around Memorial Day. My dad was a WWII vet, and I worry that if we don't actively understand what it was that they did - what war really used to be.

And then I realize what a pussy I am.
 
2010-01-21 09:58:44 AM  
My grandfather was in the big deuce as well. Only thing he would ever say about it was that he's pretty sure that he walked the entire length of Italy twice over. After he passed, I tried looking into his service record to find out where he was stationed, and what he was up to, but never heard anything back.

Was a big fan of BoB. Definitely on the top of my list of best TV shows ever.

All my best to Major Winters. A heroes hero.
 
2010-01-21 10:00:12 AM  
Met the man himself once. Found him to be a gracious, kind and honestly reflective person willing to talk about his experiences.
 
2010-01-21 10:06:10 AM  
Happy birthday hero.
 
2010-01-21 10:09:15 AM  
Winters:

images4.fotki.com


Thank you for your service to our country, Major, and happy birthday. *SALUTE*
 
2010-01-21 10:13:06 AM  
Airbus-Driver: When "Nazi" means someone who commits some relatively minor offense against personal freedom, what becomes of the real Nazis?

There's actually a really good argument that we should not think of the Nazis as a subset of history or that they were possessed because it reduces the horrific acts that seemingly normal humans did to other humans.

The more they're human the more scary it becomes.
 
2010-01-21 10:13:37 AM  
Happy Birthday, Major Winters! And thank you!

/Hang tough.
 
2010-01-21 10:15:54 AM  
Add me to the list wishing Winters a Happy Birthday.

Also, both my Grandfathers served in WWII. One was a Navy Corpsman (basically a navy medic serving with the marines) in the Pacific. Took part in 3 different island assaults and was wounded fighting his way back from enemy lines after an ambush. When I was a kid I saw him massage his foot and remove a piece of grenade shrapnel. He would still set off metal detectors at airports if he wasn't in a nursing home now.

My other grandfather was a co-pilot in the squadron that dropped the atomic bombs. His plane was the reconnaissance aircraft for Hiroshima and the standby for Nagasaki.
 
2010-01-21 10:17:20 AM  
Deveyn: vilsofa: upcoming HBO series "The Pacific" in March.

F*cking SWEET. There's remnants of WWII Japanese military all over where I live, including a tank parked next to the post office


It's off topic, but I gotta know, what do you do over in Micronesia Deveyn? Looks awesome out there.
 
2010-01-21 10:17:22 AM  
Thank you for everything.
 
2010-01-21 10:20:55 AM  
"Nothing's easy in Easy Company, son!"

I wonder if he was the inspiration for Sgt. Rock?

Happy Birthday, sir.
 
2010-01-21 10:27:40 AM  
Torchsong: "Nothing's easy in Easy Company, son!"

I wonder if he was the inspiration for Sgt. Rock?

Happy Birthday, sir.


That's impossible. He's a Major.
 
2010-01-21 10:32:05 AM  
field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

You should be banned from fark. No, scratch that - the internet. No scratch that - you should be banned from LIVING
 
2010-01-21 10:35:39 AM  
field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

-1/10
That means you owe the forum a troll point just to get back to zero.
 
2010-01-21 10:38:28 AM  
If you like the mini-series, read the books.

Start here. You know the story, but the Major adds depth, personal touches, and clarifies a few minor issues with the series...
rgr-static1.tangentlabs.co.uk

Wild Bill and Babe's effort...nice read, tough-guy humor...
i43.tower.com

Got Buck Compton's book for Christmas, haven't started it yet...
www.freewebs.com

Heroes one and all. Far as I'm concerned, 99% of the troops who fought in WWII deserve the MoH.
 
2010-01-21 10:39:48 AM  
Hand on your Shoulder
After he passed, I tried looking into his service record to find out where he was stationed, and what he was up to, but never heard anything back.

I used this link to request the service records of both my grandfathers, one who is alive and one who is deceased. It took a few months but well worth it. You do need some personal information and most can be done online, but a signature is required to be mailed in too.

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html
 
2010-01-21 10:46:11 AM  
field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

Be a good girl and go play in traffic.

Back on topic. Happy Birthday Major, you've earned it.
 
2010-01-21 10:59:58 AM  
Hobber: Thankyou Major Winters for your exceptional courage, sacrifice and leadership. May you continue to enjoy the fruits of the world you created for myself and my generation.

What you did I don't think I could ever do. And because you did it then, I don't have to do it today.

Thankyou.


+1

Thank you.
 
2010-01-21 11:05:30 AM  
Happy birthday, heroman.
 
2010-01-21 11:05:50 AM  
Tellingthem: themeatcleaver: to this day when i finish watching the final episode of band of brothers i just sigh and realize how empty my life is compared to theirs. the fact that no matter what i ever do, it will pale in comparison to what they did, is simply frightening to me.

No it is not. They had a job to do and they did it. Many people sacrifice their lives for the same reason today. Your life is not empty as long as you do something with it. Work for a charity, adopt a kid, do something to help other people out. Being a soldier doesn't make your life "full". Being the best you can be for the sake of others is.


That's one of the best replies to any post that I've ever seen on FARK.
 
2010-01-21 11:08:05 AM  
Even though I've seen all of the episodes multiple times, I'm DVRing them. (HBO is replaying them in order on a weekly basis to build up buzz for The Pacific.)

Went to Half Price Books to try to find Ambrose's Band of Brothers, they were sold out.
 
2010-01-21 11:09:58 AM  
cwheelie: field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

You should be banned from fark. No, scratch that - the internet. No scratch that - you should be banned from LIVING


I disagree, and I'd bet Major Winters would disagree also. He didn't fight for increased censorship.

/The antidote to abhorrent speech is more speech, not less.
 
2010-01-21 11:19:22 AM  
danny_kay: nom nom nasty: Germany sucks and so do you.

So, when was the last time you visted modern-day Germany?

My generation is very grateful to the Allied forces, I can tell you.
And I definitely will raise a glass on Major Winters tonight, to him and all the others who made sure I can say whatever I want about whoever I want without having to fear for my life or my family's.

During the Third Reich Germany was on the wrong path, there is no denying that.
And the Allied forces did not only destoy an evil regime and stop a war, but they also gave the Germans the opportunity to look into the mirror and say "what the *hell* have we been doing?"

And believe me, we worked hard to get our shiat together after that.
Guess what, German envoys have been welcome mediators in the Middle East conflict, so I'd humbly claim that we made some progress in the getting-along-with-other-countries thing.

So, while I might agree that Germany sucked hairy donkey balls *during the Third Reich*, I suggest that you brush up your knowledge about the more recent history.


aren't there still a lot of neo nazi idiots in germany today?
 
2010-01-21 11:19:38 AM  
Sad our ancestors sacrificed so much only to have the country taken over by corporations anyway. I mean, Hitler was BAD BAD BAD, but corporations are getting there.
 
2010-01-21 11:28:42 AM  
In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.
 
2010-01-21 11:44:35 AM  
SuperNinjaToad: aren't there still a lot of neo nazi idiots in germany today?

I think that has to do more with the "fark the establishment, man!" scene.
 
2010-01-21 11:46:31 AM  
dittybopper: cwheelie: field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

You should be banned from fark. No, scratch that - the internet. No scratch that - you should be banned from LIVING

I disagree, and I'd bet Major Winters would disagree also. He didn't fight for increased censorship.

/The antidote to abhorrent speech is more speech, not less.


While I agree with the sentiment, I would not shed a tear if the"person" in question shoved a live grenade up an orafice of and about her person and pulled the pin....
 
2010-01-21 11:48:36 AM  
God I loved Band of Brothers.
 
2010-01-21 11:48:52 AM  
Thudfark: dittybopper: cwheelie: field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

You should be banned from fark. No, scratch that - the internet. No scratch that - you should be banned from LIVING

I disagree, and I'd bet Major Winters would disagree also. He didn't fight for increased censorship.

/The antidote to abhorrent speech is more speech, not less.

While I agree with the sentiment, I would not shed a tear if the"person" in question shoved a live grenade up an orafice of and about her person and pulled the pin....


Well, yeah, but that's self-inflicted, which is fine.
 
2010-01-21 11:50:35 AM  
monsieurstabby: God I loved Band of Brothers.

My personal favorite was "Long Train Runnin'".
 
2010-01-21 11:56:50 AM  
clusterfrak: In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.

Got "D-Day" by Anthony Beevor for Christmas and he spends some time on this. It happened all over Europe; as towns were liberated the resistance (and citizenry in general) would round up those women who partook in 'collaboration horizontale' and rip their clothes, chop off their hair and worse. Beevor used an estimate that there were 40,000 such instances in France alone during the summer of '44 and many thousands more in Belgium, Holland, Lux, ect. Most were initally cared for by Allied armies with food, clothing, and medical attention, though it would take years for their hair to grow back so they were likely stuck with the stigma for some time... Most refernces I've read by Allied soldiers showed them to be shocked by the savage treatment of the women by their countrymen.

/Beevor's book is a great look at the Normandy campaign from D-Day to the liberation of Paris.
//Link (new window)
 
2010-01-21 11:57:02 AM  
Here's a big *Budda-Budda-Budda* for Sgt. Rock!
 
2010-01-21 12:16:44 PM  
Kygz: clusterfrak: In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.

Got "D-Day" by Anthony Beevor for Christmas and he spends some time on this. It happened all over Europe; as towns were liberated the resistance (and citizenry in general) would round up those women who partook in 'collaboration horizontale' and rip their clothes, chop off their hair and worse. Beevor used an estimate that there were 40,000 such instances in France alone during the summer of '44 and many thousands more in Belgium, Holland, Lux, ect. Most were initally cared for by Allied armies with food, clothing, and medical attention, though it would take years for their hair to grow back so they were likely stuck with the stigma for some time... Most refernces I've read by Allied soldiers showed them to be shocked by the savage treatment of the women by their countrymen.

/Beevor's book is a great look at the Normandy campaign from D-Day to the liberation of Paris.
//Link (new window)


Thanks that looks like a good read. I imagane even after their hair started to grow back strange women with short hair were suspect no matter where they went.
 
2010-01-21 12:25:45 PM  
dittybopper: cwheelie: field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

You should be banned from fark. No, scratch that - the internet. No scratch that - you should be banned from LIVING

I disagree, and I'd bet Major Winters would disagree also. He didn't fight for increased censorship.

/The antidote to abhorrent speech is more speech, not less.


Point taken. There's always friendly fire
 
2010-01-21 12:27:11 PM  
clusterfrak: Kygz: clusterfrak: In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.

Got "D-Day" by Anthony Beevor for Christmas and he spends some time on this. It happened all over Europe; as towns were liberated the resistance (and citizenry in general) would round up those women who partook in 'collaboration horizontale' and rip their clothes, chop off their hair and worse. Beevor used an estimate that there were 40,000 such instances in France alone during the summer of '44 and many thousands more in Belgium, Holland, Lux, ect. Most were initally cared for by Allied armies with food, clothing, and medical attention, though it would take years for their hair to grow back so they were likely stuck with the stigma for some time... Most refernces I've read by Allied soldiers showed them to be shocked by the savage treatment of the women by their countrymen.

/Beevor's book is a great look at the Normandy campaign from D-Day to the liberation of Paris.
//Link (new window)

Thanks that looks like a good read. I imagane even after their hair started to grow back strange women with short hair were suspect no matter where they went.


I understand Pat Benetar had it pretty rough in those post-war years.
 
Byn
2010-01-21 12:34:20 PM  
Happy birthday, Sir.
 
2010-01-21 12:34:30 PM  
clusterfrak: In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.

Over here (Norway) the result of being a known "tyskertøs" was to be detained to one of the regional camps immediately after the war. Women were detained until the winter of '45 with no legal proceedings at all.
Anyone proven guilty in the later cases against traitors of the war, lost the right to hold any public funded job.

Women who was registered as married to a German soldier lost their citizenship, and was deported to Germany, regardless of whether any information indicated that their husband was alive or not.
Revocation of citizenship and deportation kept occurring until 1953.
 
2010-01-21 12:37:23 PM  
Happy Birthday Sir!
Please enjoy another day when the guns are silent.
 
2010-01-21 12:41:20 PM  
Thank you sir. Happy Birthday.
 
2010-01-21 12:43:02 PM  
Poison Appleseeds: Winters: [quoting from a letter Mike Ranney wrote to him]: I cherish the memory of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said: 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, "No. But I served in a company of heroes."

That quote gives me chills every time I hear it.

God bless you, Major Winters. May the rest of your life have the peace that you and your men earned for the rest of us.

/can't wait to see "The Pacific"
 
2010-01-21 12:49:26 PM  
Curahee, Maj. Winters! You and your men did a hard job and are an example of courage, honor, and shear testicular fortitude.
 
2010-01-21 12:50:23 PM  
field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

They'll be gone soon enough, just like your dignity and self-worth.

Some of us will remember them fondly (the veterans, not your dignity and self-worth).
 
2010-01-21 12:57:49 PM  
ko_kyi: field marshal tania: Meh, I'm sick of WWII veterans. Time for them to all die off and get it over with.

They'll be gone soon enough, just like your dignity and self-worth.

Some of us will remember them fondly (the veterans, not your dignity and self-worth).


Well those never existed anyways. Remembering them is remembering an abstract idea.
 
2010-01-21 12:58:45 PM  
Cornwell: clusterfrak: In the market garden episode when the Netherlands was liberated, the towns people stripped and shaved the heads of women whom they suspected of collaboration. Whatever happened to these women were they kicked out of their towns, how did they rebuild their lives? This is one of those questions I have always wondered about. It's not like they didn't stick out and I imaganine their community wanted nothing to do with them.

Over here (Norway) the result of being a known "tyskertøs" was to be detained to one of the regional camps immediately after the war. Women were detained until the winter of '45 with no legal proceedings at all.
Anyone proven guilty in the later cases against traitors of the war, lost the right to hold any public funded job.

Women who was registered as married to a German soldier lost their citizenship, and was deported to Germany, regardless of whether any information indicated that their husband was alive or not.
Revocation of citizenship and deportation kept occurring until 1953.


thats what you get for backing a bunch of sick bastards like the Nazi's--wish more of our brave fightin boys did what Brad Pitt does in Inglorious Bastards!!
 
2010-01-21 01:00:24 PM  
Oh, and for you BoB nerds like me out there; I also got 'Parachute Infantry' by David Webster for Christmas. It was compiled by Stephen Ambrose from articles Webster wrote for different publications, his notes and letters home. Really a fascinating read and i recommend it to anyone interested in this stuff. It's definitally a more cynical look at the war than the usual books you can find out there. Great stories about Easy Co. and some insight into things we already know about and other stories we haven't heard yet.

/Great insight into the last partol over the Moder River at Haguenau
//and the differences between the enlisted life and that of the officers
 
2010-01-21 01:00:35 PM  
Wise_Guy:
I understand Pat Benetar had it pretty rough in those post-war years.


Not as bad as Annie Lennox
 
2010-01-21 01:00:38 PM  
crab66: BesiktasBoy83: Ok so my opinion of the best armies in ww2:
1. German
2. England
3. Russia
4. America
5. Australia/Poland
6. Finland
7. Japan
109. Italia ;)

#1 goes to the guys who lost.


Nice list.


In war the best army (or military) is not guaranteed a victory, re: Vietnam.

I think the list goes
1. Germany
2. Russia
3. England combined with Indian units
4. Japan
5. North America (Canada & U.S.)

Both Germany and Japan's militaries astound me. It always messes with my mind how quickly Japan went from a medieval, feudal nation to a modernly industrialized nation over the 19th and 20th centuries.
 
2010-01-21 01:11:16 PM  
Salute!
Thank you for your service, Major Winters. You're an inspiration to us all.

My Grandad was in the Seebees on Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and then in Korea in 1950. I only got him to talk about the war once-he lost a lot of good buddies on that rock, apparently. He also once almost single-handedly restarted the Korean war in '55. That was a great story.
 
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