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2010-01-21 09:29:50 AM
mtylerjr: Oh.. I should also ask the question - which QB won the NFL championship in his rookie season, as the starting QB, Punter, and Defensive back (1937 NFL Champions)?

Which of those QBs also lead the NFL in passing, punting AND interceptions in the same year (1943)?

Which of those QBs threw 4 TDS and had 4 interceptions in one game? Not interceptions thrown, but CAUGHT. (vs Detroit in 1943)

Which of those QBs had an 85 yard punt? In an NFL championship game in which he won? (1942 NFL Championship game vs the Bears)

Which of those QBs led his team to the NFL championship game five times in his first 9 years? (winning two)

Which of those QBs set the completion percentage record for a season that lasted for 37 years, and is still #2 all time (70.33%)

Which of those QBs won the NFL passing title six times?

Sammy Baugh is the Chuck Norris of NFL QBs.

If anyone ranks Baugh any lower than 1, Sammy Baugh will rise from the grave and kick their butts.

He is so far up at #1, that there shouldnt even be a #2 or #3, but the list should resume with #4. Montana? Elway? Manning? Lol. Not even close.


Who doesn't understand the concept of best QB?
Sure, he's probably be a top 5 player of all time, but top 5 QB? Not so much. Maybe 6 or 7.
 
2010-01-21 09:32:37 AM
This list appears to be based on how each QB changed the game yet it left off the man who revolutionized how to keep the ladies creamin:

www.msu.edu
 
2010-01-21 09:37:19 AM
How can a QB with ZERO All Pro awards in his career be considered on any "Best of All Time" discussion?
 
2010-01-21 10:03:35 AM
Captain Oates: This list appears to be based on how each QB changed the game yet it left off the man who revolutionized how to keep the ladies creamin:

Just won the thread. Nicely done.

/Go Bills.
 
2010-01-21 10:05:32 AM
ihatedumbpeople: Brady is a system QB. Heck, Matt Cassell had a heck of a season in that system. The first season he started a game since HIGH SCHOOL. The guy had what, 4 or 5 400 yard games? He looked like a Pro Bowl vet, then gets traded to the Chiefs and looks awful.

Oh hating on Tom Brady is fun isn't it? Brady in his first year put up better numbers then Cassel did, despite having no-name receivers and a far tougher schedule. He's gone through 3 completely different offensive systems through his career and has done consistently well in all of them. When he got the Moss and Welker, he put up a record 50 touchdowns and an undefeated regular season.

This last season has been rough with coming back from injury and missing a year off, but he still put up eerily similar numbers to last years peyton manning(who had also just come off knee surgery and missed the preseason)

But this argument about Brady being a system QB is just such a bad cliche for butthurt fans
 
2010-01-21 10:13:39 AM
anthrax0r: ihatedumbpeople: Brady is a system QB. Heck, Matt Cassell had a heck of a season in that system. The first season he started a game since HIGH SCHOOL. The guy had what, 4 or 5 400 yard games? He looked like a Pro Bowl vet, then gets traded to the Chiefs and looks awful.

Oh hating on Tom Brady is fun isn't it? Brady in his first year put up better numbers then Cassel did, despite having no-name receivers and a far tougher schedule. He's gone through 3 completely different offensive systems through his career and has done consistently well in all of them. When he got the Moss and Welker, he put up a record 50 touchdowns and an undefeated regular season.

This last season has been rough with coming back from injury and missing a year off, but he still put up eerily similar numbers to last years peyton manning(who had also just come off knee surgery and missed the preseason)

But this argument about Brady being a system QB is just such a bad cliche for butthurt fans


No butthurt at all...my team is in the NFC, I couldn't care less about most AFC teams in general. But Brady isn't as good as everyone makes him out to be.

I'm not saying he's bad...just not "all time great" level.
 
2010-01-21 10:22:57 AM
Sm3agol85: mtylerjr: Oh.. I should also ask the question - which QB won the NFL championship in his rookie season, as the starting QB, Punter, and Defensive back (1937 NFL Champions)?

Which of those QBs also lead the NFL in passing, punting AND interceptions in the same year (1943)?

Which of those QBs threw 4 TDS and had 4 interceptions in one game? Not interceptions thrown, but CAUGHT. (vs Detroit in 1943)

Which of those QBs had an 85 yard punt? In an NFL championship game in which he won? (1942 NFL Championship game vs the Bears)

Which of those QBs led his team to the NFL championship game five times in his first 9 years? (winning two)

Which of those QBs set the completion percentage record for a season that lasted for 37 years, and is still #2 all time (70.33%)

Which of those QBs won the NFL passing title six times?

Sammy Baugh is the Chuck Norris of NFL QBs.

If anyone ranks Baugh any lower than 1, Sammy Baugh will rise from the grave and kick their butts.

He is so far up at #1, that there shouldnt even be a #2 or #3, but the list should resume with #4. Montana? Elway? Manning? Lol. Not even close.

Who doesn't understand the concept of best QB?
Sure, he's probably be a top 5 player of all time, but top 5 QB? Not so much. Maybe 6 or 7.


Maybe/Maybe not, prior to Baugh you only passed on 3rd or 4th and long. He's the guy that proved that accurate passes could move the ball down the field just as effectively, if not more effectively than running. You want "Changed the game" he's your man.
 
2010-01-21 10:32:36 AM
DoBeDoBeDo: Sm3agol85: mtylerjr: Oh.. I should also ask the question - which QB won the NFL championship in his rookie season, as the starting QB, Punter, and Defensive back (1937 NFL Champions)?

Which of those QBs also lead the NFL in passing, punting AND interceptions in the same year (1943)?

Which of those QBs threw 4 TDS and had 4 interceptions in one game? Not interceptions thrown, but CAUGHT. (vs Detroit in 1943)

Which of those QBs had an 85 yard punt? In an NFL championship game in which he won? (1942 NFL Championship game vs the Bears)

Which of those QBs led his team to the NFL championship game five times in his first 9 years? (winning two)

Which of those QBs set the completion percentage record for a season that lasted for 37 years, and is still #2 all time (70.33%)

Which of those QBs won the NFL passing title six times?

Sammy Baugh is the Chuck Norris of NFL QBs.

If anyone ranks Baugh any lower than 1, Sammy Baugh will rise from the grave and kick their butts.

He is so far up at #1, that there shouldnt even be a #2 or #3, but the list should resume with #4. Montana? Elway? Manning? Lol. Not even close.

Who doesn't understand the concept of best QB?
Sure, he's probably be a top 5 player of all time, but top 5 QB? Not so much. Maybe 6 or 7.

Maybe/Maybe not, prior to Baugh you only passed on 3rd or 4th and long. He's the guy that proved that accurate passes could move the ball down the field just as effectively, if not more effectively than running. You want "Changed the game" he's your man.


I can certainly buy that. Bu that doesn't make him top 10 all time.
 
GOB
2010-01-21 10:42:11 AM
ihatedumbpeople: anthrax0r: ihatedumbpeople: Brady is a system QB. Heck, Matt Cassell had a heck of a season in that system. The first season he started a game since HIGH SCHOOL. The guy had what, 4 or 5 400 yard games? He looked like a Pro Bowl vet, then gets traded to the Chiefs and looks awful.

Oh hating on Tom Brady is fun isn't it? Brady in his first year put up better numbers then Cassel did, despite having no-name receivers and a far tougher schedule. He's gone through 3 completely different offensive systems through his career and has done consistently well in all of them. When he got the Moss and Welker, he put up a record 50 touchdowns and an undefeated regular season.

This last season has been rough with coming back from injury and missing a year off, but he still put up eerily similar numbers to last years peyton manning(who had also just come off knee surgery and missed the preseason)

But this argument about Brady being a system QB is just such a bad cliche for butthurt fans

No butthurt at all...my team is in the NFC, I couldn't care less about most AFC teams in general. But Brady isn't as good as everyone makes him out to be.

I'm not saying he's bad...just not "all time great" level.


Look at the numbers, and you will see he is at that level. Most tds in a season. Compare his touchdown to interception ratio with any other qb on most top tens and they look like crap by comparison.Number 6 all time qb rating. He is a top ten all time qb.
 
2010-01-21 10:43:26 AM
Sm3agol85:

I can certainly buy that. Bu that doesn't make him top 10 all time.


What puts Brady up there? Call me a hater but Vinatieri won more Super Bowls for the Pats than Brady can account for. If it's just for winning why isn't Griese up there? He's the only QB with a perfect season.
 
2010-01-21 11:19:52 AM
DoBeDoBeDo: Sm3agol85:

I can certainly buy that. Bu that doesn't make him top 10 all time.

What puts Brady up there? Call me a hater but Vinatieri won more Super Bowls for the Pats than Brady can account for. If it's just for winning why isn't Griese up there? He's the only QB with a perfect season.


the problem is, in that perfect season Earl Morall started 9 of the games after Griese got injured in week 5. ihatedumbpeople: Bah...list loses credibility with me when I see Johnny Unitas ahead of Favre, Montana or Manning. Sorry, but I don't buy into the mentality that being 'great in your time' means "greatest of all time".

Take Favre and put him in a game back in the 30s-60s and he could play. He tough, he's played...what...280ish straight games?? I doubt a QB like Unitas could handle the speed and complexity of today's QB game though.

Sorry, I know there are haters, but you gotta go with Favre at number 1. He's the best statistical QB that's ever played, he's won the most games as a starter, he has a Super Bowl ring, he's never missed a start, and he's proved he can win with different teams.

Montana is often a popular fave, but if it weren't for the domination of the 49ers TEAM and the fact he played with a squad packed full of Hall of Famers, his individual stats are pretty 'mid-pack' in the QB rankings. Favre never had HoF receivers to toss to, never had the benefit of a 'new' style of offense Montana had. The 'west coast offense' was unstoppable until defenses evolved, giving the 'Niners at least a few titles until defenses caught up.

Having Elway in front of Favre is silly...sure, Elway has two rings, thanks to a dominant run game that carried him in the twilight of his career. Again, statistically, he's way behind Favre.

Marino would be higher if he ever won the big game, but unfortunately they only got there once.

Brady is a system QB. Heck, Matt Cassell had a heck of a season in that system. The first season he started a game since HIGH SCHOOL. The guy had what, 4 or 5 400 yard games? He looked like a Pro Bowl vet, then gets traded to the Chiefs and looks awful.


Unitas had a much harder job passing in the 1950s and 1960s when the rules about pass interference, illegal contact and roughing the passer were much different than they are today.

In many ways the game was more difficult then than it is now.
 
2010-01-21 11:21:32 AM
Nobody has mentioned wild yam yet? For shame Fark, for shame.
 
2010-01-21 12:02:02 PM
No Quincy Carter?

/man I can't even type that without laughing
//or backspacing three times
 
2010-01-21 12:51:13 PM
Polishwonder74: Captain Oates: This list appears to be based on how each QB changed the game yet it left off the man who revolutionized how to keep the ladies creamin:

Just won the thread. Nicely done.

/Go Bills.


His name is Willy, Willy Beaman... Awesome
 
2010-01-21 01:01:36 PM
Any article regarding the NFL from ESPN is complete garbage, and this list is another fine example.

Move on over to ColdHardFootballFacts.com for quality NFL comparisons.

5 most overrated Qbs (new window)

/the truth hurts
//one of the best sites on the interwebs
 
2010-01-21 01:30:45 PM
hellbilly: slingin' sammy baugh laughs at your top ten. then, even after he punted, he sacks the other qb.

THANK YOU!

Plus, he's the only player to intercept 4 passes in a game he also QUARTERBACKED.
 
2010-01-21 01:32:10 PM
Ro_thunder: hellbilly: slingin' sammy baugh laughs at your top ten. then, even after he punted, he sacks the other qb.

THANK YOU!

Plus, he's the only player to intercept 4 passes in a game he also QUARTERBACKED.


Read up, he didn't just QB he threw 4 TD passes that game.

/Suck it Al Bundy!
 
2010-01-21 01:34:53 PM
uofacats2004: These are serious questions:
Do you think Sammy Baugh would be able to make the throws that NFL QBs nowadays have to make?

Do you think Sammy Baugh would be able to go against today's NFL defense?

Not baiting you or anything, just curious.


Not giving you a hard time as you approached the question sincerely but in general when I see this argument made I think it's horseshiat. I think one must assume all the modern advantages for players from the past being compared to the new guys... and vice versa. If Sammy Baugh were playing today he'd have lived his life with all the modern advantages, nutrition, and training techniques and he'd be a great qb. Same thing the other way. If Peyton manning were playing in the 40's he'd smoke in the off season, be a little pudgy and have several bouts with gonnorhea. But ghe'd still be a great QB.
 
2010-01-21 01:58:35 PM
www.dallasnews.com
 
2010-01-21 05:53:26 PM
bionicjoe: Any article regarding the NFL from ESPN is complete garbage, and this list is another fine example.

Move on over to ColdHardFootballFacts.com for quality NFL comparisons.

5 most overrated Qbs (new window)

/the truth hurts
//one of the best sites on the interwebs


That's a great article and ridiculously right on the money.
 
2010-01-21 07:18:03 PM
All time? You have to separate the QB's that called their own plays from the "in the ear" guys.
 
2010-01-21 11:48:40 PM
No love for Ed Rubbert, the guy Shane Falco's based on?
 
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