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(Townhall)   The reason you're alive to read this instead of chasing rats for food in a post-apocalyptic wasteland is that the swine flu epidemic never quite happened in the US   (townhall.com) divider line 101
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2010-01-19 12:02:14 PM
"The media are finally beginning to admit that the World Health Organization's "pandemic" - made possible, as I've argued before, only by completely redefining the definition for political reasons - is the mildest ever."

Yep, only due to political reasons. That's the ticket.

Isn't hindsight wonderful townhall douche. I'm sure if it had gone the other way you'd be blaming WHO for not doing enough.
 
2010-01-19 12:17:32 PM
Thanks for that obvious comment, mixed in as always with Townhall douchbaggery. Why did we need a green on this? Not trolly enough yet around here today?
 
2010-01-19 12:17:44 PM
The problem was the media never made clear that:

pandemic != deadly (or even serious)
 
2010-01-19 12:21:39 PM
I think the only reason the pandemic wasn't worse was due to foresight of President Rajoelina.
 
2010-01-19 12:21:54 PM
Why does it have to be one or the other?

Why not both?

Alive to read this AND chasing rats... could happen.

/just sayin'
 
2010-01-19 12:30:17 PM
Is this kind of like how that whole Y2K thing turned out to be "nothing but hysteria"?


/Nothing happened because we saw the problem coming and took steps to fix it.
 
2010-01-19 12:33:13 PM
This is the kind of editorial you get when someone gets their knowledge of science from Bruckheimer movies.
 
2010-01-19 12:53:00 PM
Swine what?

\Didn't get it
\\Don't know anyone that did
\\\Thus, not a pandemic
 
2010-01-19 12:58:45 PM
I was hospitalized for it.. luckily, we have access to vaccinations and good doctors in this country, not to mention clean water, soap, etc. And luckily I had insurance.
 
2010-01-19 12:59:16 PM
The democrats suck at timing I guess. Take a cue from the republicans and cause mass panic a few weeks before elections, otherwise people forget about it by the time they vote.
 
2010-01-19 01:22:49 PM
And it in no way was milder than expected due to better awareness, vigilance, and hygiene.

So stop washing your hands, don't cover your sneezes and coughs, and go tongue kiss a pig's anus.
 
2010-01-19 01:31:57 PM
The-Brain: The problem was the media never made clear that:

pandemic != deadly (or even serious)


But 'pandemic' sounds so much like 'panic!' What were they expecting us to do?
 
2010-01-19 02:52:27 PM
The-Brain: The problem was the media never made clear that:

pandemic != deadly (or even serious)


this
 
2010-01-19 03:06:08 PM
Diogenes:

go tongue kiss a pig's anus.


done and done!
 
2010-01-19 03:07:07 PM
Oh look, this thread again.
 
2010-01-19 03:07:40 PM
impaler: The-Brain: The problem was the media never made clear that:

pandemic != deadly (or even serious)

But 'pandemic' sounds so much like 'panic!' What were they expecting us to do?


it's 'panic' once you remove 'dem'

/democrats saved the day?
//really needs to stop reading the politics tab
 
2010-01-19 03:09:11 PM
Diogenes: go tongue kiss a pig's anus.

I agree. Foreplay should be promoted.
 
2010-01-19 03:09:13 PM
If there were no pigs there would be no Bartertown. I cant imagine a post apocalyptic world without Bartertown.
 
2010-01-19 03:09:28 PM
And on the main page too, so no PITA...
 
2010-01-19 03:09:46 PM
It isn't a huge number but swine flu is still taking the life one kid in the US each day. The regular flu statistically is
Sure there are worse dangers from car accidents, but it is statistically problematic.
 
2010-01-19 03:10:14 PM
Father Jack Hacket: "The media are finally beginning to admit that the World Health Organization's "pandemic" - made possible, as I've argued before, only by completely redefining the definition for political reasons - is the mildest ever."

Yep, only due to political reasons. That's the ticket.

Isn't hindsight wonderful townhall douche. I'm sure if it had gone the other way you'd be blaming WHO for not doing enough.


No...because we'd all be dead, right? But you're right of course. Whatever anyone does to avert disaster is either a) too much, if disaster was averted or b) too little, if it wasn't. Always.
 
2010-01-19 03:10:38 PM
Aarontology: This is the kind of editorial you get when someone gets their knowledge of science from Bruckheimer movies.

But you see, they were able to extrapolate the data from CDC's hidden monitors. By zooming in 3000x on the janitor's sunglasses with special software and then reversing the reflection, they were able to resolve the conspiracy.
 
2010-01-19 03:10:39 PM
But the news (local news, one of the channels) told me just today that the flu may be coming back, worse than ever! I was preparing to panic and everything. Are you telling me to not bother panicking now?

Also, no way in hell I'm clicking on any Townhall links.
 
2010-01-19 03:10:56 PM
Rats are our favorite food; of course we're out chasing them!

/haven't you ever seen the Riff Trax to Battlefield Earth?
 
2010-01-19 03:11:04 PM
Did somebody say Panda-demic?
cdn.davesdaily.com
 
2010-01-19 03:11:21 PM
Swine flu deaths worldwide barely outnumber the deaths for Leprosy.

How are we not getting flooded w/ warnings of the Leprosy pandemic??
 
2010-01-19 03:11:32 PM
But global warming is still real!
 
2010-01-19 03:11:44 PM
Nightjars: Did somebody say Panda-demic?

I approve and endorse of this entertaining new direction for the thread.
 
2010-01-19 03:13:44 PM
furiousxgeorge: Is this kind of like how that whole Y2K thing turned out to be "nothing but hysteria"?


/Nothing happened because we saw the problem coming and took steps to fix it.


Well to be fair, this is a pretty foreign concept for most conservatives.
 
2010-01-19 03:14:04 PM
The issues were two (IMHO):

1. MSM making "pandemic" the same as "epidemic"

2. Treating the "possibility" of a mutation making the flu worse as an "inevitability" that it would.

Dear MSM - please stay out of scientific issues, kthx
 
2010-01-19 03:14:52 PM
furiousxgeorge: Is this kind of like how that whole Y2K thing turned out to be "nothing but hysteria"?


/Nothing happened because we saw the problem coming and took steps to fix it.


This.


/had rare side-effect to the vaccine
//still glad that I received it
 
2010-01-19 03:15:37 PM
Gunny Highway: If there were no pigs there would be no Bartertown. I cant imagine a post apocalyptic world without Bartertown.

America 3000 has the best post apocalyptic world, and I'm 83% sure there was no Bardertown there...

// maybe I'm thinking of Phoenix the Warrior... but I'm not about to look either of those up from work...
 
2010-01-19 03:16:00 PM
Bored Horde: Nightjars: Did somebody say Panda-demic?

I approve and endorse of this entertaining new direction for the thread.


I have no idea how long this has been in my photobucket album or even why I put in there in the first place...
i635.photobucket.com
 
2010-01-19 03:16:19 PM
Was it wrong of me to hope that it would kill off a billion or two? Something about the collapse of society appeals to me. I might need help.
 
2010-01-19 03:16:41 PM
NittLion78: The-Brain: The problem was the media never made clear that:

pandemic != deadly (or even serious)

this


Very much this.

Also... is this reporter comparing the reported totals for swine flu to the "yearly estimated" totals for normal flu again? It kinda looks that way. We'll leave things like "disproportionate affect on kids" and "happened during the normal off-season for flu" for later.

I'm glad it didn't end up worse, to be sure-- but it was certainly something to be aggressively prepared for.
 
2010-01-19 03:16:57 PM
Gyrfalcon: Father Jack Hacket: "The media are finally beginning to admit that the World Health Organization's "pandemic" - made possible, as I've argued before, only by completely redefining the definition for political reasons - is the mildest ever."

Yep, only due to political reasons. That's the ticket.

Isn't hindsight wonderful townhall douche. I'm sure if it had gone the other way you'd be blaming WHO for not doing enough.

No...because we'd all be dead, right? But you're right of course. Whatever anyone does to avert disaster is either a) too much, if disaster was averted or b) too little, if it wasn't. Always.


What, exactly, did "we" do to avert this disaster? Shots? They came after the peak outbreak was reached.
 
2010-01-19 03:19:08 PM
Plexo: Was it wrong of me to hope that it would kill off a billion or two? Something about the collapse of society appeals to me. I might need help.

might??

/sigh, alas, I agree a little, any chance it could have killed all of the people who say vacines are just a government scam??
 
2010-01-19 03:20:03 PM
Science, medicine, religion ... everything.

It's all corrupt. All ot it.

\Hangs head in defeat.
 
2010-01-19 03:21:18 PM
the ebola tb avian flu H1N1 not an issue...
color me surprised...
 
2010-01-19 03:21:24 PM
Vaccines and pandemics are a no-win, politically, for whoever is in charge.

Imagine the best possible situation. A pandemic is predicted, and the government rapidly impliments perfect distribution of a perfect vaccine to 100% of the population. Nobody gets sick, and as a result, the pudits rant about how billions of dollars were wasted fighting a global health crisis which never was. If the vaccine is less than perfect and has a .01% complication rate, then nobody will be sick except the few people having complications, and you'll be hearing how the cure is worse than the disease.

Here we have a far less than perfect implimentation, but there was still a strong strategic vaccination drive, and the heightened public awareness probably saved a lot of lives and reduced the amount of exposure people had. Swine flu, like bird flu and SARS before, was a very mild pandemic in no small part because we made a huge deal about it. I'd like to think of it as practical hysteria.
 
2010-01-19 03:21:37 PM
namatad: /sigh, alas, I agree a little, any chance it could have killed all of the people who say vacines are just a government scam??

That day will come...
 
2010-01-19 03:22:54 PM
Plexo: Was it wrong of me to hope that it would kill off a billion or two? Something about the collapse of society appeals to me. I might need help.

If you mean help as in... "I need help with my mind"... sorry. If you meant "I need help deploying my genetically engineered supervirus" or "...help releasing my army of six-armed-indestructo-bots" I'm there, man!

:)

/IIRC, it's "hardwired" into our brains to expect the end of the world; keeps us on our toes, survival-wise
 
2010-01-19 03:23:14 PM
RaisedOnATARI: Swine flu deaths worldwide barely outnumber the deaths for Leprosy.

How are we not getting flooded w/ warnings of the Leprosy pandemic??


Because Global Warming never happened. Thank God.
 
2010-01-19 03:24:07 PM
A week after the first outbreak a WHO official was quoted as saying "This is the worst crisis ever to face the human race".

Self serving hyperbole much?

I had it over xmas. Not fun, but not too bad.. Lasted until last week.
 
2010-01-19 03:24:17 PM
This is the way the world swine flu ends
This is the way the world swine flu ends
This is the way the world swine flu ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

I'm so very disappointed.
 
2010-01-19 03:27:35 PM
GAT_00: Thanks for that obvious comment, mixed in as always with Townhall douchbaggery. Why did we need a green on this? Not trolly enough yet around here today?


You shoud demand your $5 back! GAWWWWDAMMIT!!!
 
2010-01-19 03:27:40 PM
It was nothing but a heavy dose of hype, propaganda, and fear-mongering. Likely intended to bolster the appearance of a need for universal health care.

/FAIL for the scare-mongers
 
2010-01-19 03:28:29 PM
Brainsick: /IIRC, it's "hardwired" into our brains to expect the end of the world; keeps us on our toes, survival-wise

According to this guy (new window), I was being generous in my assessment:


What gives? Why do so many people keep hanging their hopes and fears on junk science and bogus archaeological exegesis?

It's nothing new, says Richard Landes, director and co-founder of the Center for Millennial Studies at Boston University. End-time movements have been around since the beginning of time: apocalyptic terror in the wake of the Black Death, a rash of evangelical millenarian movements in the 19th century, the Heaven's Gate cult rapturing themselves to the Hale-Bopp comet in 1997, worldwide unease leading up to Y2K.

"Every time there's a famine, a plague, a this, a that, people are saying this is the end of the world," says Landes. "And 2012 is your next handy apocalyptic hook. The nice things about dates are that they help you prepare. This is the first one since 2000."

All apocalyptic prophesies are Rorshach tests, he argues. "People project onto [them]. They project their fears, and they project their hopes." And whether people fear the end of time or hoping for massive rejuvenation for a very sickly planet, the "moment of huge convulsion" that 2012 portends is inextricably bound up with our times.

Things are bad. People are looking for change.
 
2010-01-19 03:31:08 PM
LiteWerk: It was nothing but a heavy dose of hype, propaganda, and fear-mongering. Likely intended to bolster the appearance of a need for universal health care.

/FAIL for the scare-mongers


Prove it.
 
2010-01-19 03:32:55 PM
This is just a preview what the news will be like on December 22nd, 2012. right?
 
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