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(CNN)   Dr. Sanjay Gupta has more courage and dedication than the United Nations, who abandoned patients out of fear   (cnn.com) divider line 281
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2010-01-16 10:17:34 AM
"What is striking to me as a physician is that patients who just had surgery, patients who are critically ill are essentially being left here, nobody to care for them," Gupta said.

Sandra Pierre, a Haitian who has been helping at the makeshift hospital, said the medical staff took most of the supplies with them.

"All the doctors, all the nurses are gone," she said. "They are expected to be back tomorrow. They had no plan on leaving tonight. It was an order that came suddenly."

She told Gupta, "It's just you."



I have no words.
 
2010-01-16 10:20:29 AM
Blues_X:
I have no words.


Oh, I have a couple you could borrow.
 
2010-01-16 10:30:47 AM
And what would you be saying if they had died? Because I'll bet you'd still be UN bashing then.
 
2010-01-16 10:33:06 AM
GAT_00: And what would you be saying if they had died? Because I'll bet you'd still be UN bashing then.

It's not hard to take shots at the UN because THEY ARE FARKING IDIOTS!
 
2010-01-16 10:38:48 AM
consciousNOT: GAT_00: And what would you be saying if they had died? Because I'll bet you'd still be UN bashing then.

It's not hard to take shots at the UN because THEY ARE FARKING IDIOTS!


not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.
 
2010-01-16 10:38:57 AM
consciousNOT: It's not hard to take shots at the UN because THEY ARE FARKING IDIOTS!

Really? Because I find that most of the time people take shots at the UN for anything they can think of, and then make up the rest.
 
2010-01-16 10:39:39 AM
Weaver95: not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.

Would you, or would you not, also be attacking the UN if they had left those doctors in place and they died to a mob? Isn't it true that you will attack the UN for anything?
 
2010-01-16 11:04:32 AM
GAT_00: Weaver95: not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.

Would you, or would you not, also be attacking the UN if they had left those doctors in place and they died to a mob? Isn't it true that you will attack the UN for anything?


If this tragedy has not proven to you the absolute failure that is the U.N., nothing will.
 
2010-01-16 11:07:57 AM
Tunk87: If this tragedy has not proven to you the absolute failure that is the U.N., nothing will.

Was that supposed to make sense?
 
2010-01-16 11:08:01 AM
GAT_00: Weaver95: not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.

Would you, or would you not, also be attacking the UN if they had left those doctors in place and they died to a mob? Isn't it true that you will attack the UN for anything?


Gotta side with GAT_00 on this one. The UN probably moved them and their supplies to a different hospital to protect the valuable resource (medical professionals and equipment) from rioting.
 
2010-01-16 11:09:51 AM
Tunk87: GAT_00: Weaver95: not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.

Would you, or would you not, also be attacking the UN if they had left those doctors in place and they died to a mob? Isn't it true that you will attack the UN for anything?

If this tragedy has not proven to you the absolute failure that is the U.N., nothing will.


Don't be so extreme, the UN is still a large force for good in Haiti, those doctors didn't just go home and get an early night.

However I do disagree with the action of withdrawing them, while understanding the reasons.
 
2010-01-16 11:16:10 AM
Vampire_Blues: moved them and their supplies to a different hospital

Hospital? They moved the tent. There aren't hospitals in Port-au-Prince anymore.
 
2010-01-16 11:21:50 AM
GAT_00: Vampire_Blues: moved them and their supplies to a different hospital

Hospital? They moved the tent. There aren't hospitals in Port-au-Prince anymore.


I should have used quotation marks.

These guys are clearly UN trolls though.

In conclusion, Red Cross.
 
2010-01-16 11:26:01 AM
Vampire_Blues: These guys are clearly UN trolls though.

Oh yeah. Not like Fark doesn't have plenty of those without something like this.
 
2010-01-16 11:41:01 AM
They should of wrote that eaerthquake a strongly-worded letter LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
2010-01-16 11:48:51 AM
Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?
 
2010-01-16 11:49:57 AM
Weaver95: consciousNOT: GAT_00: And what would you be saying if they had died? Because I'll bet you'd still be UN bashing then.

It's not hard to take shots at the UN because THEY ARE FARKING IDIOTS!

not to mention corrupt and run by cowards.


How do you even know the circumstances under which those doctors and nurses left? I guess it's easy to sit and judge people who are there and working to help others under extreme circumstances.

Maybe they took supplies with them so the hospital wouldn't be looted during the night. That said, Gupta and his team are undoubtedly courageous, and an example to journalists who are afraid of "getting involved" in the story.
 
2010-01-16 11:59:44 AM
Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?


The fact the the UN wants to create a global tax on internet users and control the money?
 
2010-01-16 12:14:25 PM
Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?


Republicans
 
2010-01-16 12:19:24 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?

The fact the the UN wants to create a global tax on internet users and control the money?


That's Google.
 
2010-01-16 12:26:26 PM
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What a cowardly Belgian doctor might look like
 
2010-01-16 12:27:42 PM
GAT_00: And what would you be saying if they had died? Because I'll bet you'd still be UN bashing then.


No, I wouldn't. I usually support the UN missions, and think they should be given more power (such as using military force to defend citizens and not having to wait until they are first fired upon).

If they were able to move their people, they could have also moved the injured.
 
2010-01-16 12:29:04 PM
coco ebert: How do you even know the circumstances under which those doctors and nurses left?

the news crew stayed. if it was really dangerous, i'm sure they'd have left.
 
2010-01-16 12:41:54 PM
Weaver95: the news crew stayed. if it was really dangerous, i'm sure they'd have left.

Your silence on my question is deafening.
 
2010-01-16 12:45:48 PM
Hobodeluxe: Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?

RepublicansFark Independents


If you could combine a Global Warming and ACORN thread in with this one, it'd be Fox-tastic.

Thanks to Farky, this entire thread shows up Freeper Pink on my screen.
 
2010-01-16 12:46:47 PM
I wonder what amount of ransom will be needed to free Dr. Sanjay Gupta and his CNN news team.
 
2010-01-16 12:49:44 PM
coco ebert: Maybe they took supplies with them so the hospital wouldn't be looted during the night.

"It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight."
-- Jack Handy
 
2010-01-16 12:51:42 PM
They left human beings to die and people are in here defending them.

Wow.
 
2010-01-16 12:52:23 PM
savage henry: Thanks to Farky, this entire thread shows up Freeper Pink on my screen.

I use that barf orange color for Republicans and black for trolls, though the difference is sometimes just semantics. There are also a few that annoyed me to the point of using ignore. There isn't much color in here though, I only mark a few people.
 
2010-01-16 12:55:07 PM
Tunk87: They left human beings to die and people are in here defending them.

Wow.


Hold on, my irony meter just exploded.
 
2010-01-16 12:56:54 PM
Yeah, this is the same evil, jackbooted UN that all the tea bag wackos insist is going to take over the US by force.

Sure, riiight...
 
2010-01-16 12:57:02 PM
Tunk87: They left human beings to die and people are in here defending them.

And yet the TV doctor stayed the whole night so they wouldn't be totally abandoned. I'm not one of the crowd that has an axe to grind against the U.N. but this is pretty pathetic.
 
2010-01-16 01:01:07 PM
I come here not to bury the UN, but to praise Dr Sanjay Gupta.
 
2010-01-16 01:12:41 PM
GAT_00: There isn't much color in here though, I only mark a few people.

I'm not on much lately, but a thread with Tunk, Weaver and Jehovah should be a colorful one.
 
2010-01-16 01:13:21 PM
savage henry: Hobodeluxe: Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?

RepublicansFark Independents

If you could combine a Global Warming and ACORN thread in with this one, it'd be Fox-tastic.

Thanks to Farky, this entire thread shows up Freeper Pink on my screen.


LOL. Please tell me I am a Fark Independent.

That would be hilarious.
 
2010-01-16 01:27:27 PM
Gupta monitored patients' vital signs, administered painkillers and continued intravenous drips.

Damn this guy must be a blast to party with!
 
2010-01-16 01:27:35 PM
Vampire_Blues:

LOL. Please tell me I am a Fark Independent.

That would be hilarious.


?

Who are you?
 
2010-01-16 01:30:01 PM
U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky said Saturday that the world body's mission in Haiti did not order any medical team to leave the Port-au-Prince field hospital. If the team left, it was at the request of their own organizations, he told CNN.
 
2010-01-16 01:34:06 PM
Jesus. Wow.
 
2010-01-16 01:34:25 PM
savage henry: That

Who is anyone on the internet?
I can say I am not Anon.
 
2010-01-16 01:55:33 PM
It's BS that they abandoned the patients, and I have the utmost respect for Dr. Gupta for staying on and doing what he could. This isn't the first time he's had to perform while on assignment...

In 2003, Gupta traveled to Iraq to cover the medical aspects of 2003 invasion of Iraq. While in Iraq, Gupta performed emergency surgery on both U.S. soldiers and Iraqi civilians. Gupta was embedded with a Navy medical unit at the time. A Marine named Jesus Vidana suffered a severe head injury, and the Marines asked for Gupta's assistance because of his background in neurosurgery. Vidana survived and was sent back to the United States for rehabilitation.

(wikipedia)

Without being there, it is hard to understand the reasoning behind simply leaving these critically ill patients without power, supplies, or attention. Then again, I've never been in an area where tens of thousands of people are actively dying or dead. I've got to imagine it just becomes overwhelming, and decisions that wouldn't be made in any other circumstances need to be made.
 
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2010-01-16 02:05:58 PM
"Doctors and Butchers are similar, they use the same tools, but the Butcher cares about their customer"

- #2
 
2010-01-16 02:09:30 PM
vampire_blues: Gotta side with GAT_00 on this one. The UN probably moved them and their supplies to a different hospital to protect the valuable resource (medical professionals and equipment) from rioting.
===========================================

It depends. CNN did not mention (and may not have known) why they were moved.

If the doctors were in legit danger and died, you have a much bigger problem on your hands than moving them away for 12 hours.

If it was bogus or minute danger, THEN you bash the UN.

However, since Gupta stayed, I guess the threat was minimal (in which case the UN bashing is apropos) OR he was never told and just decided to hope for the best.
 
2010-01-16 02:10:10 PM
beve: I come here not to bury the UN, but to praise Dr Sanjay Gupta.

Seconded.
 
2010-01-16 02:12:27 PM
Why do I feel like CNN's going "Wow, look at CNN! CNN's doctor don't bail out when there's trouble outside! Isn't CNN the greatest? CNN!".

Can you see I dislike CNN? Not that the rest of the US media is blameless either...

Perhaps Gupta feels a lot safer then UN people because he thinks he's a big media star and no moron is going to behead him for fear of media exposure? I dunno.
 
2010-01-16 02:12:34 PM
Article doesn't really give reasons or details behind the orders for the doctors to leave. Props to Gupta for sticking around and seeing the night through.
 
2010-01-16 02:13:01 PM
Hick: Are you kidding me? Disgusting.
Is there anything more worthless then the UN?


The horde of Haitians that are rioting/looting/murdering UN workers out to help them and stealing medications out to help the sick?

Maybe them? Could THEY be more worthless?

Nah its the UN for not sticking around to die/get robbed.
 
2010-01-16 02:13:33 PM
jake3988: If it was bogus or minute danger, THEN you bash the UN.

Yes, clearly this is the UN's fault:

U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky said Saturday that the world body's mission in Haiti did not order any medical team to leave the Port-au-Prince field hospital. If the team left, it was at the request of their own organizations, he told CNN.




"Evil UN! What were they doing in Haiti anyway?"
 
2010-01-16 02:13:57 PM
badass neurosurgeon is badass
 
2010-01-16 02:14:22 PM
Wow that's farked up. Looks like Dr. Gupta's getting a raise soon. At least I hope so.
 
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