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2010-01-16 10:31:10 AM
eddyatwork:
The thing that is chilling to me today about schools is how they are training people to live in a prison mentality where all independent thought must be crushed instantly in the guise of safety and all spirit must be destroyed by meaningless rules that accomplish nothing.


At least people will be comfortable in their new corporate paradise.
 
2010-01-16 10:31:14 AM
Officials decided to call in the explosives team to look over the object - which an administrator had confiscated and taken into a principal's office - as a precaution.

Read more: http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-01-15/local-county-news/suspicious-object-prom pts-school-evacuation#ixzz0cn1LV5Cw


Speaking as someone who works around explosives; If you honestly think something might be a bomb, you're a god damn idiot if you touch it or move it.
 
2010-01-16 10:33:00 AM
School Administrator.

The job for those individuals who lack the cranial processing abilities to be hired as a Walmart greeter.

In a perfect world there should be a mandatory IQ of around 120 to have anything to do with running schools. With at least as much learning time as needed to become an engineer. After all it is one of the most important jobs one can have.

Instead with get small-minded political weasels who pander to the paranoid parents that believe anything they see on Fox News.
 
2010-01-16 10:34:09 AM
Don't worry 'mer'ca, China & India will pick up the technological-know-how slack. You just rest and stop all those pesky kids from thinking.

It'll work out just fine.
 
2010-01-16 10:34:21 AM
Good grief! I know I'm getting old now. Back when I was in school we were encouraged to think outside of the box. In high school I experimented with building an alcohol distillation set-up. (after recovering the alcohol and checking the purity I was supposed to dump it down the drain. Supposed to...) After that was experimenting with compounds that were exothermic and spontaneously combusted. I scared the vice-principal with that one so he brought me an extra fire extinguisher.
 
2010-01-16 10:34:47 AM
Wanted for Questioning:

chud.com

/// hot like a giant bag of popcorn
 
2010-01-16 10:35:31 AM
Should be interesting. In a couple of years, my niece will be starting school. Given her parents (not to mention ALL her relatives) penchant for anti-authoritarian activities, i'm guessing we'll be hearing a lot from school administrators.
 
2010-01-16 10:36:59 AM
There need to be laws that prosecute stupidity this strong. Either that or allow the student to sue the administrator. It didn't say they smashed the detector, which is the most remarkable part of this story.

I am getting the feeling the society is being run by and policed by knuckle draggers
 
2010-01-16 10:37:47 AM
rev. dave:
I am getting the feeling the society is being run by and policed by knuckle draggers


well duh.
 
2010-01-16 10:38:17 AM
Weaver95: At least people will be comfortable in their new corporate paradise.

Indeed. Let the reality shows continue making the stupid even dumber by watching that crap.
 
2010-01-16 10:38:49 AM
FightDirector: eddyatwork: The kid has learned three lessons that are very important here.

1. The nail that stands tallest gets hammered down first.
2. No matter how much you explain something to an administrator they'll never get it.
3. Being intelligent is a punishment.

If the kid had made a crappy diorama none of this would have happened.

Jesus H. Christ, ain't THAT the truth.


Yeah, all us jeenyuses just hate bein' smart.
 
2010-01-16 10:39:35 AM
eddyatwork: maceinator: Darpa: U.S. Geek Shortage Is National Security Risk

From the referenced article: According to the Computer Research Association, computer science enrollment dropped 43 percent between 2003 and 2006.

How much of this is due to the dot-com bust?

What worries me more is the lack of engineering students. I saw on History Channel when they still had history a statement about how over half of the engineers in the US are over the age of 50. That means in less than 20 years we are going to have a major shortage.

Somehow, the kid in the article probably won't go into it if this crap keeps going on in schools.


Sweet; my husband has job security and a real chance at going upstairs.

/electrical engineer.
//his brother is a mechanical engineer.
 
2010-01-16 10:39:44 AM
eddyatwork:

Somehow, the kid in the article probably won't go into it if this crap keeps going on in schools.


Chemists too; you can't buy a chemistry set for your kids anymore. Pretty much every field of scientific study will get you smacked down. Computers? You're a hacker! Electronics? Bombs! Chemistry? Bombs! Engineering? Bombs! Biology? Biological warfare! Physics? Nuclear bombs!

It's like a broken record at this point. Kids learn to keep their heads down. fark the future, we'll be cleaning toilets in Mexico and Canada in a decade.
 
2010-01-16 10:39:58 AM
Last year here in a middle school, a ticking sound was heard coming from a locker. The kids were evacuated, police called and they brought in bomb disposal people. Robot went in, opened locker and took out backpack. Bomb people took the backpack outside and blew it up with a water cannon.

The ticking was a metronome that the student had for music class.
 
2010-01-16 10:40:02 AM
Fear the Clam: To the principal's office. Seriously, if you're brave enough to move something that you really and truly believe is a hazard to the kids in your care, why put it in the principal's office as opposed to, I dunno, the parking lot?

Just like the TSA confiscates your 'dangerous' bottled water... then dumps it in a trash can right next to them.
 
2010-01-16 10:40:11 AM
"Home of the Brave," my ass.
 
2010-01-16 10:40:59 AM
I love how the kid told them what it was, but they had it X-rayed anyway.

And to find what? You can't have an explosive without explosive material. Wires by themselves do not explode.

You can electronically remotely detonate something else, but then you need the something else.

*

I believe the bomb squad should have the independent authority to say "screw you" and go home, if called on an obviously non-weapon. That should go a long way towards reducing incidents like this. Further, whoever called the bomb squad should be fined heavily, as with a false 911 call.

I'm sick of the bomb squad getting called on bags of swag at Gencon or heart-shaped tins of Chocolate. What did you THINK is in there, you dripping imbecile?
 
2010-01-16 10:41:20 AM
FTFA: technology-oriented magnet school

You're doing it wrong.
 
2010-01-16 10:41:22 AM
Hater: Yeah...the news story left a lot out. The truth is, the child ain't right.

Well.....?
 
2010-01-16 10:42:47 AM
ZeroCorpse: eddyatwork: The kid has learned three lessons that are very important here.

1. The nail that stands tallest gets hammered down first.
2. No matter how much you explain something to an administrator they'll never get it.
3. Being intelligent is a punishment.

If the kid had made a crappy diorama none of this would have happened.

Yeah. A big THIS. At least, that has been my experience.

That's why I became an entropy-worshiping nihilist. I figured that the only way I could get along in this world without being accosted or reviled would be to out-doomsay the doomsayers.

So far it has worked. `Perhaps too well.

I tried the whole "Show off how smart I am" thing in middle school, and I was completely cured of it by high school, thanks to teachers and administrators who were threatened by my existence. Even in the adult world, I've learned that most people don't like someone who is noticeably intelligent; They prefer their peers, superiors, and/or underlings to be as dim as they are, and suffer the delusion that they themselves are the smartest monkey in their office, because they picked more fleas this week than anyone else.

/Resents stupid people.
//And I'm positive they resent me, too.


You sound like one of those pessimistic, lonely people that can't can't function socially and grow up falsely believing that they are smarter than everyone else.
 
2010-01-16 10:43:45 AM
maceinator: you can't buy a chemistry set for your kids anymore. Pretty much every field of scientific study will get you smacked down. Computers? You're a hacker! Electronics? Bombs! Chemistry? Bombs! Engineering? Bombs! Biology? Biological warfare! Physics? Nuclear bombs!

And then the government wonders why the hell we have a shortage of science majors in college. That shiat is what gets kids interested in that science stuff.
 
2010-01-16 10:44:01 AM
fredklein: Just like the TSA confiscates your 'dangerous' bottled water... then dumps it in a trash can right next to them.

I've noticed the only thing they don't dump is duty-free booze. They have other plans for that, the twats.
 
2010-01-16 10:46:01 AM
EngineerAU: The Pentagon recently released a report stating that the small number of students going into science and engineering fields constitues a grave security threat to the country. So... can we have the vice-principal who overreacted sent to Gitmo for endangering the future of the United States of America?

Where do I sign the petition?
 
2010-01-16 10:46:14 AM
ZeroCorpse: eddyatwork: The kid has learned three lessons that are very important here.

1. The nail that stands tallest gets hammered down first.
2. No matter how much you explain something to an administrator they'll never get it.
3. Being intelligent is a punishment.

If the kid had made a crappy diorama none of this would have happened.

Yeah. A big THIS. At least, that has been my experience.

That's why I became an entropy-worshiping nihilist. I figured that the only way I could get along in this world without being accosted or reviled would be to out-doomsay the doomsayers.

So far it has worked. `Perhaps too well.

I tried the whole "Show off how smart I am" thing in middle school, and I was completely cured of it by high school, thanks to teachers and administrators who were threatened by my existence. Even in the adult world, I've learned that most people don't like someone who is noticeably intelligent; They prefer their peers, superiors, and/or underlings to be as dim as they are, and suffer the delusion that they themselves are the smartest monkey in their office, because they picked more fleas this week than anyone else.

/Resents stupid people.
//And I'm positive they resent me, too.


How come why I be accosted by made fun of in threads about employees mention tell on boss that not know what do how to work technology devices equipment programming languages that revelent make do the project?
 
2010-01-16 10:46:43 AM
Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting.
 
2010-01-16 10:47:30 AM
And I noticed I misspelled a word AFTER I hit Submit.
/takes second sip of coffee
//goes for 3rd
 
2010-01-16 10:48:29 AM
ZeroCorpse: eddyatwork: The kid has learned three lessons that are very important here.

1. The nail that stands tallest gets hammered down first.
2. No matter how much you explain something to an administrator they'll never get it.
3. Being intelligent is a punishment.

If the kid had made a crappy diorama none of this would have happened.

Yeah. A big THIS. At least, that has been my experience.

That's why I became an entropy-worshiping nihilist. I figured that the only way I could get along in this world without being accosted or reviled would be to out-doomsay the doomsayers.

So far it has worked. `Perhaps too well.

I tried the whole "Show off how smart I am" thing in middle school, and I was completely cured of it by high school, thanks to teachers and administrators who were threatened by my existence. Even in the adult world, I've learned that most people don't like someone who is noticeably intelligent; They prefer their peers, superiors, and/or underlings to be as dim as they are, and suffer the delusion that they themselves are the smartest monkey in their office, because they picked more fleas this week than anyone else.

/Resents stupid people.
//And I'm positive they resent me, too.


After reading your post, and viewing your profile, I want you to know that my heart bleeds for you.

About a drop once per century.

I suspect that most of your problems with the 'stupid" people around you are due to their perception that you are a self-important twat who would only be happy if he were Lord and Master of the universe.

Get over yourself.
 
2010-01-16 10:52:49 AM
ZeroCorpse: eddyatwork: The kid has learned three lessons that are very important here.

1. The nail that stands tallest gets hammered down first.
2. No matter how much you explain something to an administrator they'll never get it.
3. Being intelligent is a punishment.

If the kid had made a crappy diorama none of this would have happened.

Yeah. A big THIS. At least, that has been my experience.

That's why I became an entropy-worshiping nihilist. I figured that the only way I could get along in this world without being accosted or reviled would be to out-doomsay the doomsayers.

So far it has worked. `Perhaps too well.

I tried the whole "Show off how smart I am" thing in middle school, and I was completely cured of it by high school, thanks to teachers and administrators who were threatened by my existence. Even in the adult world, I've learned that most people don't like someone who is noticeably intelligent; They prefer their peers, superiors, and/or underlings to be as dim as they are, and suffer the delusion that they themselves are the smartest monkey in their office, because they picked more fleas this week than anyone else.

/Resents stupid people.
//And I'm positive they resent me, too.


News letter please.
\Helped my daughter make a diorama of Jamestown Fort {clay ramps, twigs for walls, and cannon]. Cool-won a prize.
 
2010-01-16 10:52:56 AM
MacGabhain: Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting

Yeah, not taught anymore. My nephews, in college:

- can barely write legibly in block letters,
- can't solve for 'x' in x+5=13 (seriously),
- can't read or write cursive; a signature is a graphical image to them. They "sign" their names in block letters.

We have a very deep hole to dig out of. It will take decades to get back where we were, and that will still put us behind the rest of the world.
 
2010-01-16 10:54:40 AM
maceinator: MacGabhain: Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting

Yeah, not taught anymore. My nephews, in college:

- can barely write legibly in block letters,
- can't solve for 'x' in x+5=13 (seriously),
- can't read or write cursive; a signature is a graphical image to them. They "sign" their names in block letters.

We have a very deep hole to dig out of. It will take decades to get back where we were, and that will still put us behind the rest of the world.


The only one that doesn't belong in that sequence is writing in cursive. Seriously, it's a dead art, like speaking latin. There is no reason beyond curiosity for it to be taught nowadays.
 
2010-01-16 10:55:05 AM
when your highest politicians, your educators and administrators are all completely to-the-bone stupid

i don't hold out much hope for the USA

it really IS full of fat pansy-assed morons
from bottom to top
 
2010-01-16 10:55:50 AM
aagrajag: Home of the brave, indeed.

You yanks weren't always such pussies. What happened, man? You used to be cool.


These are school administrators, not normal people.
 
2010-01-16 10:56:05 AM
Nearby Gompers High School

I know who Samuel Gompers was but it's still funny to me. Gompers would be an excellent name for a Basset Hound, or a victorian disease.
 
2010-01-16 10:56:09 AM
bookman: /Resents stupid people.
//And I'm positive they resent me, too.

After reading your post, and viewing your profile, I want you to know that my heart bleeds for you.

About a drop once per century.

I suspect that most of your problems with the 'stupid" people around you are due to their perception that you are a self-important twat who would only be happy if he were Lord and Master of the universe.

Get over yourself.


Translation: Prepare to be pwned.

wapedia.mobi /red hot
 
2010-01-16 10:56:10 AM
Science fair day must be a busy one for the bomb squad. Do you think they show up automatically, or do they wait for dozens of franic 911 calls?
 
2010-01-16 10:56:59 AM
I wonder if the school had blown up, how many of you would be blaming the administrator for not doing more to stop it?
 
2010-01-16 10:57:01 AM
maceinator: - can't read or write cursive; a signature is a graphical image to them. They "sign" their names in block letters.

Reading it yes, but cursive writing is a pain especially when it's so much faster to type.
 
2010-01-16 10:57:09 AM
MacGabhain: Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting.

Next time tell her to write it in Nahnu.
/Nahnu
 
2010-01-16 10:58:16 AM
The personnel then confiscated it

What in the fark for?
 
2010-01-16 10:58:30 AM
MacGabhain: Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting.

Just curious if the two words were"supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" and "floccinauccinihilipilification".
 
2010-01-16 10:59:47 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

/not amused
//seriously no one posted this yet??
 
2010-01-16 10:59:52 AM
TsukasaK: maceinator: MacGabhain: Not tech or math related, but my wife just had an ENTIRE college class not be able to tell what she wrote on the board because it was in cursive. It was two words, and she has very good handwriting

Yeah, not taught anymore. My nephews, in college:

- can barely write legibly in block letters,
- can't solve for 'x' in x+5=13 (seriously),
- can't read or write cursive; a signature is a graphical image to them. They "sign" their names in block letters.

We have a very deep hole to dig out of. It will take decades to get back where we were, and that will still put us behind the rest of the world.

The only one that doesn't belong in that sequence is writing in cursive. Seriously, it's a dead art, like speaking latin. There is no reason beyond curiosity for it to be taught nowadays.


'Fraid I have to agree here. I learned cursive quite well in school, and my handwriting has long since become a grab-bag of printing, cursive and various ligatures and digraphs that no one else can read. I couldn't write a majuscule "Q" to save my life.

My calligraphy's pretty good, though.
 
2010-01-16 10:59:55 AM
TsukasaK: The only one that doesn't belong in that sequence is writing in cursive. Seriously, it's a dead art, like speaking latin. There is no reason beyond curiosity for it to be taught nowadays.

Says the guy fresh out out of college.
 
2010-01-16 11:01:15 AM
thamike: fredklein: Just like the TSA confiscates your 'dangerous' bottled water... then dumps it in a trash can right next to them.

I've noticed the only thing they don't dump is duty-free booze. They have other plans for that, the twats.


it's almost worth putting something icky into the booze if you know the TSA goons are just gonna steal it for themselves....
 
2010-01-16 11:03:00 AM
Weaver95: thamike: fredklein: Just like the TSA confiscates your 'dangerous' bottled water... then dumps it in a trash can right next to them.

I've noticed the only thing they don't dump is duty-free booze. They have other plans for that, the twats.

it's almost worth putting something icky into the booze if you know the TSA goons are just gonna steal it for themselves....


I like your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter so I have something to read in jail.
 
2010-01-16 11:03:16 AM
9-11-2001: my son was sitting in his high-school physics class. Some kid ran in the door and said, "Hey, a plane hit the World Trade Center!"

So the physics teacher turns on the classroom TV just as the second plane hits.

After about a minute, the physics teacher turns off the TV and says, "well, that will be on the news when you get home. Let's get back to Boyle's Law."

And THAT is the mindset that puts smart kids in detention.
 
2010-01-16 11:04:10 AM
thelordofcheese: A guy from CMU was detained and questioned at CVS because his home-made GPS unit had a battery pack.

That's right: in a neighborhood filled with high-tech students this white guy who was openly carrying a device had what was considered a suspicious object because it required portable electrical energy.

And the reason he was let go without further investigation? The object had a Windows CE logo on it.

You are safe, citizen. The government is watching.


was this in Squill or the one on Forbes? The one on Forbes I could kinda see being concerned about bombs and stuff...

//I miss South Oakland... there, I said it
 
2010-01-16 11:04:31 AM
aagrajag: Weaver95: thamike: fredklein: Just like the TSA confiscates your 'dangerous' bottled water... then dumps it in a trash can right next to them.

I've noticed the only thing they don't dump is duty-free booze. They have other plans for that, the twats.

it's almost worth putting something icky into the booze if you know the TSA goons are just gonna steal it for themselves....

I like your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter so I have something to read in jail.


I hate those TSA farktards as much as the next guy, but how the fark did this thread deteriorate into a TSA bashing rant?
 
2010-01-16 11:05:18 AM
Ya know, I'm beginning to wonder if we need to set up something similar to "Free Enterprise Zones" like they have in China, except that we'll set up "Freedom Zones", composed of certain midwest states where SWAT teams, bomb squads, ATF, DEA, and other oppressive entities (like large, stupid school systems) are BANNED, and where chemistry sets, electronic parts, and other cool stuff are easily available. A Darwinian stew, to be sure, but the survivors would be America's only hope for survival...

/engineer over 50
//made and detonated homemand gunpowder at nine
///has sweet Military-industrial complex job
\\\retiring in three years
\\you're on your own, biatches!
\final slashie for obsessive-compulsive completeness
 
2010-01-16 11:05:54 AM
DarthBrooks: THAT is the mindset that puts smart kids in detention.

That and smart kids are more likely to question things and make the teachers and admins look like fools, at least until they learn to keep their head down when they get punished.
 
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