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2010-01-16 10:17:37 AM  
I would also add an increased use of hearing protection when shooting and increasing popularity of suppressors, despite the government requiring a $200 tax and a background check on what is essentially a piece of safety equipment.

Can you imagine if the government charged a $200 tax to have a muffler on your car?
 
2010-01-16 10:20:55 AM  
Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.
 
2010-01-16 10:23:37 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

and block out the music that kids are blaring out of their own earbuds.
 
2010-01-16 10:23:38 AM  
Point in matter, People speaking louder has less clarity in their speech. Amusingly, they make themselves harder to understand when they yell.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

Me, I just turn off my hearing aid - How's my cool factor?

/ Hard of hearing since birth.
 
2010-01-16 10:25:27 AM  
Hearing loss is a long-term, cumulative issue that tends to manifest itself with age, so it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions about whether the prevalence of iPods will cause society-wide hearing loss. Let's talk again when Gen Y is in their fifties and sixties.
 
2010-01-16 10:26:23 AM  
Crosshair:
Can you imagine if the government charged a $200 tax to have a muffler on your car?


Yes, I can imagine that. If you don't stop giving them ideas, we are going to start taxing your keystrokes.
 
2010-01-16 10:29:42 AM  
the earbuds aren't actually that loud. It's the over-the-top compression applied to rock music that makes the ears tired and creates the illusion of loudness.
 
2010-01-16 10:31:41 AM  
How many people in the study drove cars with stereos loud enough to vibrate windows a block away? I would think they would have found hearing loss in that group.
 
2010-01-16 10:33:07 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.
 
2010-01-16 10:34:22 AM  
i235.photobucket.com

DESPITE IPODS AND EARBUDS...

/oblig
 
2010-01-16 10:38:31 AM  
Nakito: Hearing loss is a long-term, cumulative issue that tends to manifest itself with age, so it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions about whether the prevalence of iPods will cause society-wide hearing loss. Let's talk again when Gen Y is in their fifties and sixties.

"this". I SAID, "THIS".
 
2010-01-16 10:41:18 AM  
hearing loss is an early sign of Alzheimers
 
2010-01-16 10:41:37 AM  
Aar1012: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.


Metrosexuals and vain biatches wanted to keep their hair perfect while doing the minimum amount of movement possible while exercising.

Just a theory.
 
2010-01-16 10:42:11 AM  
Aar1012

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.

They also sound terrible. I don't care how much you paid for them, nothing that small can put out any bass, and it's painful to listen to shrill treble-y junk.

On that same note, you could buy them for $2 at gas stations ten years ago, but since they've become a fashion accessory, people think $20 is a "bargain".

/biatch biatch biatch
 
2010-01-16 10:42:21 AM  
austin_millbarge: DESPITE IPODS AND EARBUDS...

/oblig


Thought I would see this in here.

/thanks
 
2010-01-16 10:42:36 AM  
Well, I can see it, people are no longer rocking the 80's style boombox at 130db 4" from there ears.
 
2010-01-16 10:43:46 AM  
Hebalo: Nakito: Hearing loss is a long-term, cumulative issue that tends to manifest itself with age, so it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions about whether the prevalence of iPods will cause society-wide hearing loss. Let's talk again when Gen Y is in their fifties and sixties.

"this". I SAID, "THIS".


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2010-01-16 10:43:51 AM  
CrispFlows: Point in matter, People speaking louder has less clarity in their speech. Amusingly, they make themselves harder to understand when they yell.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

Me, I just turn off my hearing aid - How's my cool factor?

/ Hard of hearing since birth.


I suspect you were hard of hearing prior to birth, but you just didn't notice. I SAID I SUSPECT YOU WERE HARD OF HEARING PRIOR....

Just so everyone knows, I didn't make that joke up.
 
2010-01-16 10:44:17 AM  
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benfry.com
 
2010-01-16 10:44:26 AM  
despite ipods? I think the fact that I keep that shiat blaring straight into my brain as much as possible probably contributes to the fact that I can't hear a damned thing.
 
2010-01-16 10:49:56 AM  
Aar1012: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.


if you spend a little extra money, you can get some decent earbuds that are comfortable and will stay in. i only paid $25. for mine and they work great.
 
2010-01-16 10:52:32 AM  
Aar1012: I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.

I can't stand earbuds. Even the supposedly comfortable and expensive ones annoy the hell out of me.
 
2010-01-16 10:55:19 AM  
Aar1012: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.


Amen! Earbuds are the most annoying way to listen to iPods/MP3 players, to me. I like the behind-the-back-of-the-head headphones, it just works.
 
2010-01-16 10:59:05 AM  
silent tom: Aar1012: I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.

if you spend a little extra money, you can get some decent earbuds that are comfortable and will stay in. i only paid $25. for mine and they work great.


I hated the standard iPod earbuds until I went to RadioShack and bought some cheap foam covers for them. It's counterintuitive, since the earbuds had originally felt too big, but with the foam, it takes a couple of hours for them to start to get uncomfortable.

/wears glasses, so finds earbuds substantially more comfortable than headphones
 
2010-01-16 11:00:18 AM  
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Hebalo: Nakito: Hearing loss is a long-term, cumulative issue that tends to manifest itself with age, so it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions about whether the prevalence of iPods will cause society-wide hearing loss. Let's talk again when Gen Y is in their fifties and sixties.

"this". I SAID, "THIS".

APPROVES


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Also approves.
 
2010-01-16 11:04:30 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk: They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.
WTF Indeed: and block out the music that kids are blaring out of their own earbuds.
Aar1012: I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.
KhamanV: Metrosexuals and vain biatches wanted to keep their hair perfect while doing the minimum amount of movement possible while exercising.

I don't know what kind of ear buds you peeple are buying but my gel buds stay put, are very comfortable and produce enough bass that it sounds like I have a subwoofer in my freekin' brain.

I've never really considered if they 'make me look cool'
Now give me a second to get off your lawns.

...and to stay on subject I've listened to a LOT of loud music, from big ol' headphones... boom boxes... played in garage bands that got noise complaints from several blocks away (!) and have good hearing. I don't much buy into the loud music causes hearing loss thing...or maybe it can for some people but not for others. I dunno...after all I'm not a doctor.
 
2010-01-16 11:07:45 AM  
silent tom

"if you spend a little extra money, you can get some decent earbuds that are comfortable and will stay in. i only paid $25. for mine and they work great."

Dealextreme has some for less that $4 that sound pretty good, don't fall out and are built reasonably well. They also don't look like the iPod phones.
 
2010-01-16 11:11:37 AM  
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. SPEAK UP.
www.technologygear.net
 
2010-01-16 11:12:12 AM  
Crosshair: I would also add an increased use of hearing protection when shooting and increasing popularity of suppressors, despite the government requiring a $200 tax and a background check on what is essentially a piece of safety equipment.

Can you imagine if the government charged a $200 tax to have a muffler on your car?


Mufflers remove an annoyance, a silencer removes the ability for other people to know someone has been firing a gun nearby. Clearly they are in the same category.
 
2010-01-16 11:14:47 AM  
Scattershot: I like the behind-the-back-of-the-head headphones, it just works.

I always like the Sony behind-the-back-of-the-head headphones. The quality of them has change, however, and they seem to die after three months (compared to ones that would survive for several years). These are comfortable but they too seem to go after three months
 
2010-01-16 11:20:29 AM  
JimmyFartpants: Aar1012: I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.

I can't stand earbuds. Even the supposedly comfortable and expensive ones annoy the hell out of me.


i like earbuds with a loose rubber shield; they fit snugly and block out noise almost as well as a huge neckbreaker pair of noise cancellers
 
2010-01-16 11:21:45 AM  
I'm a little hard of hearing in my right ear where I used to shoot without hearing protection.
 
2010-01-16 11:24:48 AM  
mrapier: hearing loss is an early sign of Alzheimers

Your Mom is an early sign of Alzheimer's.
 
2010-01-16 11:29:17 AM  
Back when Walkmans were starting to show up everywhere, I specifically remember my teachers telling us all that we'd "be deaf by the time you're 40" if we kept using those things.

I'm almost 41 now, can still hear well and use an iPod regularly, while most of the teachers who warned me about the dangers of listening to music with headphones are most likely dead.

Clearly, I'm the real winner here.
 
2010-01-16 11:32:00 AM  
As someone who's currently experiencing progressively worse hearing loss in one ear, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2010-01-16 11:33:02 AM  
Xhan: Aar1012

I don't understand how earbuds became popular. They're uncomfortable and they fall out easily.

They also sound terrible. I don't care how much you paid for them, nothing that small can put out any bass, and it's painful to listen to shrill treble-y junk.


Shurely you must be joking
 
2010-01-16 11:34:00 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Personally, I suspect that 90% of the people wearing earbuds don't even HAVE an MP3 player. They just use them as a means to ignore everyone around them and look cool.

i know i do. had a gal at work complaining loudly about the job she was tasked with yesterday. she was ripping me up so i told her to go tell the boss and leave me out of it. she kept it up so i just plugged in my ipod and turned the volume up. didnt hear another peep out of her.
 
2010-01-16 11:38:38 AM  
People seem to be a lot more aware of what causes hearing damage... you see landscapers wearing ear protection now, and loudness at concerts is way WAY lower than it was 20 years ago.

/ears still ringing from that Nugent show in '87
 
2010-01-16 11:39:47 AM  
most hearing loss is causes by illness. its the cumulative effect of undiagnosed and/or untreated infections in the inner ear.

that being said, loud noise is bad too.
knew a guy who worked Intelligence on a navy vessel during Vietnam. sitting in the South China sea listening to Chinese chatter bouncing off the ionosphere and the ship sailed into a lightning storm. the resulting burst of white noise nearly knocked him out. could never hear in the high ranges after that.
 
2010-01-16 11:42:27 AM  
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Hebalo: Nakito: Hearing loss is a long-term, cumulative issue that tends to manifest itself with age, so it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions about whether the prevalence of iPods will cause society-wide hearing loss. Let's talk again when Gen Y is in their fifties and sixties.

"this". I SAID, "THIS".

APPROVES


Win.
 
2010-01-16 12:02:04 PM  
ph0rk: Mufflers remove an annoyance, a silencer removes the ability for other people to know someone has been firing a gun nearby. Clearly they are in the same category.

Mufflers lessen the ability for other people to know that someone has been driving a car nearby.

See? Dishonestly changing the frame of reference is fun!
 
2010-01-16 12:03:07 PM  
Yeah I don't think we have to worry about ipods causing hearing loss right now. Unless people are maxing the things out in their ears or something.
 
2010-01-16 12:06:52 PM  
zepplinrules: Yeah I don't think we have to worry about ipods causing hearing loss right now. Unless people are maxing the things out in their ears or something.

Whut?
 
2010-01-16 12:50:02 PM  
I've been listening to loud earphones for decades (Since the early 80s) and had a hearing test a few years ago. No issues.

zepplinrules: Yeah I don't think we have to worry about ipods causing hearing loss right now. Unless people are maxing the things out in their ears or something.

Word.
 
2010-01-16 12:55:55 PM  
safeinsane: Back when Walkmans were starting to show up everywhere, I specifically remember my teachers telling us all that we'd "be deaf by the time you're 40" if we kept using those things.

I'm almost 41 now, can still hear well and use an iPod regularly, while most of the teachers who warned me about the dangers of listening to music with headphones are most likely dead.

Clearly, I'm the real winner here.


This.
 
2010-01-16 02:02:35 PM  
I've noticed a lot of things we keep statistics on have gone down. Good bad or just neutral, all incidents of "things" have gone down.... yet strangely old age diseases have gone up. I wonder what this could mean.
 
2010-01-16 02:07:25 PM  
I leave with mixed emotions.

Happy for the Garrett Morris reference.

Sad that nobody posted Michael J. Fox and the Amp from Back to the Future.
 
2010-01-16 02:55:39 PM  
thenateman: safeinsane: Back when Walkmans were starting to show up everywhere, I specifically remember my teachers telling us all that we'd "be deaf by the time you're 40" if we kept using those things.

I'm almost 41 now, can still hear well and use an iPod regularly, while most of the teachers who warned me about the dangers of listening to music with headphones are most likely dead.

Clearly, I'm the real winner here.

This.


I question your logic, but it was funny.
 
2010-01-16 04:01:10 PM  
Wow, this is shocking news...
 
2010-01-16 04:02:26 PM  
ph0rk: Mufflers Suppressors remove an annoyance, a silencer muffler removes the ability for other people to know someone has been firing a gun driving a car nearby. Clearly they are in the same category.

They are.

The muzzle blast of a gun is very annoying. I hate having to wear plugs and/or muffs when it is 90 degrees outside. Do you have any idea how much safer it would be if cars made more noise. Imagine how many pedestrians would be saved every year by making it illegal for cars to have mufflers.

Did you know that some of the first car mufflers were modified firearm suppressor designs?

A muffler does not make a car silent and neither does a suppressor. All either one does is reduce the noise pollution that both make. A suppressed gunshot is still around 120 decibels at best. Hollywood quiet only happens in Hollywood.
 
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