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2010-01-12 06:54:26 AM  
The detail is amazing

fta "I don't want to take away from Ricci's other accomplishments, but we think this is pretty spectacular,"

I'd say so
 
2010-01-12 08:10:56 AM  
so it was an economic map of the 21st century? how prescient!
 
2010-01-12 08:11:47 AM  
I am Kanatian... eh
 
2010-01-12 09:18:57 AM  
The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen"

TMI, dude.
 
2010-01-12 10:16:08 AM  
Newsflash - most countries draw world maps with their own territory in the center, even today.

It is pretty damn cool though, all the detail. Stuff in that style and time period always amazes me, Japanese stuff too. All those woodcut magazines and even fliers for the daily news have so much detail.

Is there a bigger pic?
 
2010-01-12 10:53:53 AM  
I thought that was common for many countries. Huh.
 
2010-01-12 10:55:11 AM  
They don't have maps!
 
2010-01-12 10:55:52 AM  
itaz... I agree...that's silly. I have a map of the world I bought in Moscow. It's centered right on Moscow (though that handily makes things look better than centering on Greenwich that most western maps do).

I've got another map of the world that's centered on NYC (and I mean centered, NYC is where the equator would be on other maps).
 
2010-01-12 10:56:12 AM  
Nobody put 'Murrka in the corner!
/Swayze
 
2010-01-12 10:56:46 AM  
haha some shiathead spent a million bucks on that map and it isn't even accurate!
 
2010-01-12 10:59:05 AM  
www.jimpoz.com
 
2010-01-12 10:59:08 AM  

Headso: haha some shiathead spent a million bucks on that map and it isn't even accurate!


2/10, if only because there are some people who would say this.

Me, I think the map is cool. I love history, and I love seeing history from the perspective of WHEN I'm looking at, too. I've got some very interesting history textbooks, one from the 1950s, and another from the 80s.

The 1880s.
 
2010-01-12 10:59:12 AM  
There be Dragons!
 
2010-01-12 11:00:03 AM  
Old school GIS, very cool.

/The other GIS
//GIS'r
 
2010-01-12 11:00:46 AM  

fenrael23: Nobody put 'Murrka in the corner!
/Swayze


farking win!!
 
2010-01-12 11:01:00 AM  
"humped oxen"?

An adjective/noun or a verb/noun?
 
2010-01-12 11:01:06 AM  

Headso: haha some shiathead spent a million bucks on that map and it isn't even accurate!


It doesn't even have a street view. Lame!
 
2010-01-12 11:02:24 AM  
Looks like Merka in the middle to me. I can see my house.
 
2010-01-12 11:03:45 AM  
Ka-na-ta!

Tetsuo!
 
2010-01-12 11:04:36 AM  
Thanks Bill, for taking a brutal, repressive country off our Naughty List.
 
2010-01-12 11:04:53 AM  
Now Ricci, I'm really happy for you, and imma let you finish, but Waldseemüller had one of the best maps of all time. One of the best maps of all time!
 
2010-01-12 11:05:41 AM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2010-01-12 11:05:54 AM  
The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen"

Dammit, that's not a landmark, it's a journal entry!!
 
2010-01-12 11:07:49 AM  
Better get used to that view
 
2010-01-12 11:09:04 AM  
incredimazing.com
/Gerardus Mercator was a bloody masturbator, his hands were round his Bols
 
2010-01-12 11:09:42 AM  

Cormee: Better get used to that view


Ya, China's economy is like 1/10th as big as ours, they are about to take over the world.
 
2010-01-12 11:10:17 AM  

The-Brain: Old school GIS, very cool.


If you're still in school and have a chance, take an 'antique world maps' course or something like it. Fascinating stuff after the Mappa Mundi era.

My favs:

Kangnido map (1402)


Da Ming Hun Yi Tu map (1389ish)

De Virga world map (1411)
 
2010-01-12 11:10:41 AM  
Its interesting to note that now all countries, when designing a map, always put their country in the center.
 
2010-01-12 11:11:12 AM  
Are there pics of them humping oxen?
 
2010-01-12 11:14:48 AM  
"In olden days, nobody had ever known that there were such places as North and South America or Magellanica."


Nobody! Except of course the people that lived there.
 
2010-01-12 11:15:10 AM  

TrekerDave: The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen"

Dammit, that's not a landmark, it's a journal entry!!



I lol'd
 
2010-01-12 11:15:20 AM  
China as the center of the world..pfft..they don't even have enough womenfolk for wives


How centric can that be
 
2010-01-12 11:17:03 AM  
Where is South Africa, and the Iraq, everywhere like such as?
 
2010-01-12 11:18:03 AM  

FloatingBusError: "In olden days, nobody had ever known that there were such places as North and South America or Magellanica."


Nobody! Except of course the people that lived there.


Which, since the unspoken assumption is that you're talking about your own people and lands, don't count. =P
 
2010-01-12 11:19:57 AM  

Dorf11: The-Brain: Old school GIS, very cool.

If you're still in school and have a chance, take an 'antique world maps' course or something like it. Fascinating stuff after the Mappa Mundi era.

My favs:

Kangnido map (1402)

Da Ming Hun Yi Tu map (1389ish)

De Virga world map (1411)


I have some really neat repros of some classic maps I should scan and post but methinks my employer would be a tish angry. Some GIS (Yeah that GIS not the one we work in) should yield some decent results for my favorite though... Lewis and Clark track across Western North America.

/Also a GIS'r
//Not that one the other one
///There are quite a few of us on Fark IIRC
 
2010-01-12 11:21:48 AM  

gorgor: Are there pics engravings of them humping oxen?

 
2010-01-12 11:22:23 AM  
img194.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-12 11:22:41 AM  

FlashHarry: so it was an economic map of the 21st century? how prescient!


Came here to say this. :)
 
2010-01-12 11:22:58 AM  

FloatingBusError: "In olden days, nobody had ever known that there were such places as North and South America or Magellanica."


Nobody! Except of course the people that lived there.


God bless Vespucciland, la la hm hm...

/oh, by the way, you're all catholics now, domini, domini, domini
//c'mon, cisco
 
2010-01-12 11:24:19 AM  
www.timefold.com
 
2010-01-12 11:26:55 AM  
Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!
 
2010-01-12 11:29:12 AM  

earthworm2.0: Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!


Someone posted the Middle Earth map so it was only natural the trolls would show up...
 
2010-01-12 11:31:27 AM  
Now let's see 'em fold the bastard.
 
2010-01-12 11:31:50 AM  
www.hellblazer.com
 
2010-01-12 11:32:32 AM  

Thunderpipes: Cormee: Better get used to that view

Ya, China's economy is like 1/10th as big as ours, they are about to take over the world.


I agree with you for once! Thank the lord we have a Dem in office so we can start growing our middle class again to keep pace with their rapid expansion!
 
2010-01-12 11:37:37 AM  

LarryDan43: Ka-na-ta!

Tetsuo!


AKIRA!!

/I went there, thought no one would get it....
 
2010-01-12 11:38:33 AM  
Did Nostradamus draw this map?
 
2010-01-12 11:42:25 AM  
Pretty cool map, but for my money I find the Vinland map more interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_map

Probably a fake though...
 
2010-01-12 11:45:37 AM  

Sapper_Topo: ///There are quite a few of us on Fark IIRC


We find our way to these threads with a differential/GPS combo and ArcSomething. I've wandered away from 'hardcore GIS' (tee hee), but I still play with MapServer and the Google Maps API now and then.

That L&C map is a classic. They must not have carried much liquor with them on the trip. :)
 
2010-01-12 11:47:18 AM  

Sapper_Topo: Dorf11: The-Brain: Old school GIS, very cool.

If you're still in school and have a chance, take an 'antique world maps' course or something like it. Fascinating stuff after the Mappa Mundi era.

My favs:

Kangnido map (1402)

Da Ming Hun Yi Tu map (1389ish)

De Virga world map (1411)

I have some really neat repros of some classic maps I should scan and post but methinks my employer would be a tish angry. Some GIS (Yeah that GIS not the one we work in) should yield some decent results for my favorite though... Lewis and Clark track across Western North America.

/Also a GIS'r
//Not that one the other one
///There are quite a few of us on Fark IIRC


Antique maps are cool, sadly my university/college offered no such courses. I have a couple reprints at home that I need to put up.
 
2010-01-12 11:48:35 AM  

Sapper_Topo: earthworm2.0: Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!

Someone posted the Middle Earth map so it was only natural the trolls would show up...


aww, darn. was obvious troll obvious?
 
2010-01-12 11:50:33 AM  
Yeah, a lot of people make maps favorable to themselves. You can put the Atlantic or Pacific at the periphery depending on what puts you closer to the center, Australia can flip the world upside down so they look like they're on top. In the book Why I Hate Canadians (recommended even though it was written in the 1990's), the author puts in some volunteer time in Ecuador, comes across an outdated giant globe, helps repaint it, and by the time he's done Canada has somehow annexed stuff all the way down to Oregon.
 
2010-01-12 11:53:27 AM  

Gosling: Yeah, a lot of people make maps favorable to themselves. You can put the Atlantic or Pacific at the periphery depending on what puts you closer to the center, Australia can flip the world upside down so they look like they're on top. In the book Why I Hate Canadians (recommended even though it was written in the 1990's), the author puts in some volunteer time in Ecuador, comes across an outdated giant globe, helps repaint it, and by the time he's done Canada has somehow annexed stuff all the way down to Oregon.


the guy just wasn't a good artist. You try hand painting a reproduction.
 
2010-01-12 11:56:24 AM  
The Ricci map gained the nickname the "Impossible Black Tulip of Cartography"...

That's an odd coincidence since that was my nickname in high school. It was a real chore signing that in everyone's yearbook.
 
2010-01-12 11:57:58 AM  

Dorf11: Sapper_Topo: ///There are quite a few of us on Fark IIRC

We find our way to these threads with a differential/GPS combo and ArcSomething. I've wandered away from 'hardcore GIS' (tee hee), but I still play with MapServer and the Google Maps API now and then.

That L&C map is a classic. They must not have carried much liquor with them on the trip. :)


One day I was bored so I geo- referenced the L&C based on a couple of known river points here in ND. To my amazement it is amazingly accuarate. I'm not saying it's perfect but if you think of the difference in technology and the way rivers shift over time it is really quite good.
 
2010-01-12 11:59:43 AM  
Also a GIS'r so I'm getting a kick
 
2010-01-12 12:00:35 PM  
Here is the World as I see it:

img527.imageshack.us
 
2010-01-12 12:01:06 PM  

earthworm2.0: Sapper_Topo: earthworm2.0: Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!

Someone posted the Middle Earth map so it was only natural the trolls would show up...

aww, darn. was obvious troll obvious?


*Clicks Profile*

Well youre not quite waht I was expecting. Wanna see my Python Scripting
 
2010-01-12 12:04:12 PM  
Delaware?

The author's house?
 
2010-01-12 12:04:26 PM  
www.geo-tee.com
 
2010-01-12 12:04:38 PM  

stovepipe: Also a GIS'r so I'm getting a kick


Two things really surprised me about Fark the number of GIS's and the number of Freemasons. Not that the two are mutually inclusive or are they?
 
2010-01-12 12:05:30 PM  
Way cool!!!
 
2010-01-12 12:06:55 PM  
What? Someone in China 400 years ago didn't recognize that the United States of America is the center of the world? What a moran!
 
2010-01-12 12:08:39 PM  
Cartographers for Social Equality approve of this map.

Big block of cheese... I has it.
U want some?
 
2010-01-12 12:08:56 PM  

Sapper_Topo: stovepipe: Also a GIS'r so I'm getting a kick

Two things really surprised me about Fark the number of GIS's and the number of Freemasons. Not that the two are mutually inclusive or are they?


It's because we have so much time waiting for ArcTools to run.
 
2010-01-12 12:10:45 PM  
"Ka-na-ta."

Is that anything like... "Sa-na-ta-a-na"

www.ratewall.com
 
2010-01-12 12:10:56 PM  

Felix_T_Cat: Delaware?

The author's house?


What a stud.

/Currently residing in Half-Asgard.
 
2010-01-12 12:11:08 PM  
It's called 中国 for a reason, suckers.
 
2010-01-12 12:13:13 PM  
The 1418 Ming Dynasty is unimpressed...

www.marcopolovoyages.com

/hot, like Admiral Zheng He's voyage around the world
 
2010-01-12 12:13:53 PM  
Very informative.

MBooda, obzerver, I never noticed the resemblance between upside-down Australia and Middle Earth before.
 
2010-01-12 12:15:30 PM  

Sapper_Topo: Two things really surprised me about Fark the number of GIS's and the number of Freemasons. Not that the two are mutually inclusive or are they?


Who keeps Atlantis off the maps? We do, we do.
 
2010-01-12 12:15:55 PM  

rnatalie: itaz... I agree...that's silly. I have a map of the world I bought in Moscow. It's centered right on Moscow (though that handily makes things look better than centering on Greenwich that most western maps do).

I've got another map of the world that's centered on NYC (and I mean centered, NYC is where the equator would be on other maps).


Does it look like this? www.saulsteinbergfoundation.org
 
2010-01-12 12:16:18 PM  

Felix_T_Cat: Delaware?

The author's house?


Holy Crap! When I did a GIS search for one of Mark E. Rogers maps, I found out that there were *MORE* Samurai Cat books past the first two (which I have). The third includes this:

In this one Tomokato and Shiro join Santa (yep, as in Claus) to take on the Third Reich in one truly Nazi-butt-kickin' eight reindeer open sleigh (complete with TWO ball turrets!), but not before they upset Gangster Rule in the Windy City in the Thirties. After that it's a quick hop to the former Soviet Union to kick Stalin and his Commies onto their werewolf butts

I *HAVE* to get that. Two ball turrets on Santa's sleigh? *AWESOME*.
 
2010-01-12 12:18:08 PM  

Sapper_Topo: earthworm2.0: Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!

Someone posted the Middle Earth map so it was only natural the trolls would show up...


That's a map of the earth twelve thousand years ago.
 
2010-01-12 12:18:51 PM  
There's a map in a Chinese takeout place near me that has China pretty much front and center with the Americas off to the side and greatly skewed due to projection. I also found a Cold War era world map in my grandmother's house with the Americas dead center. It looks terrible aesthetically because most of the middle area is taken up by ocean, dead space. A more convenient map is with GMT as the center line. Of course everyone wants their own country in the center but usefulness should come first.
 
2010-01-12 12:19:44 PM  
King of Siam reportedly very disappointed, very disappointed indeed to find his country smaller than the others.
 
2010-01-12 12:22:26 PM  

Fano: Sapper_Topo: earthworm2.0: Everyone! lets go to the museum to check out the map that doesn't help you get anywhere becasue its so damn old!

Someone posted the Middle Earth map so it was only natural the trolls would show up...

That's a map of the earth twelve thousand years ago.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-01-12 12:22:55 PM  

kalvyn: The 1418 Ming Dynasty is unimpressed...

/hot, like Admiral Zheng He's voyage around the world


I read that book. It was a great read but teh internets have many debunking sites - it seems his research was less than rigorous.
 
2010-01-12 12:23:20 PM  
"humped oxen"

www.hollywoodstandups.com
 
2010-01-12 12:23:22 PM  

The-Brain: Sapper_Topo: stovepipe: Also a GIS'r so I'm getting a kick

Two things really surprised me about Fark the number of GIS's and the number of Freemasons. Not that the two are mutually inclusive or are they?

It's because we have so much time waiting for ArcTools to run.


Oh you have no idea we run ArcGIS across a Citrix client in Denver and our SDE data is housed in Montana. Geo processing is a nightmare usually saved for the end of the day. Simple digitizing is slow and cumbersome and our GIS masters insist it is performing as well as a local license. I used to gripe about having Civil Engineers run GIS programs. Wait til you have government running it!
 
2010-01-12 12:27:18 PM  

The-Brain: Sapper_Topo: stovepipe: Also a GIS'r so I'm getting a kick

Two things really surprised me about Fark the number of GIS's and the number of Freemasons. Not that the two are mutually inclusive or are they?

It's because we have so much time waiting for ArcTools to run.


No kidding. At least we aren't waiting for AMLs anymore.

/I can't believe I didn't know that Fark had so many of us.
//Getting a kick.
 
2010-01-12 12:28:43 PM  

kalvyn: The 1418 Ming Dynasty is unimpressed...

/hot, like Admiral Zheng He's voyage around the world


Except that map is from 1763...and the 1421 Theory is based on not much other than conjecture. Zheng He accomplished a lot for his day, but he never made it that far (Sorry to have to link to wikipedia).

However, old maps rock. Anyone know of a good place to get quality reproductions?
 
2010-01-12 12:29:29 PM  
Has anyone stopped by to call the subby a tard for mistaking asia with north america?

/ You're a tard subby
// Just for good measure
 
2010-01-12 12:31:29 PM  

Gothnet: kalvyn: The 1418 Ming Dynasty is unimpressed...

/hot, like Admiral Zheng He's voyage around the world

I read that book. It was a great read but teh internets have many debunking sites - it seems his research was less than rigorous.


There's a great 2-part PBS special about Zheng He. Part 1 is completely factual, Part 2 is Menzies' theory, ending with a ruthless grilling by academics. You don't see a man squirm and pout like that too often.
 
2010-01-12 12:31:30 PM  
www.rednecks.info
 
2010-01-12 12:32:49 PM  
Well, China is "the middle country."
 
2010-01-12 12:35:34 PM  

Hatman013: kalvyn: The 1418 Ming Dynasty is unimpressed...

/hot, like Admiral Zheng He's voyage around the world

Except that map is from 1763...and the 1421 Theory is based on not much other than conjecture. Zheng He accomplished a lot for his day, but he never made it that far (Sorry to have to link to wikipedia).

However, old maps rock. Anyone know of a good place to get quality reproductions?


Here's a good jumping off point for some digital repros Link (new window)

But with some GISing (Yeah that one) you can get some good digitals for free. Save them to your computer and print freely!
 
2010-01-12 12:36:12 PM  
Loads of us GIS-ers

NAD_1983_UTM_Zone_12N
284082.592 5659333.834

/You know it's my map by the fake creek shaped like pube....
 
2010-01-12 12:43:09 PM  
Wow...didn't realize there were so many GIS people here. My program didn't offer anything in the way of an antique maps course, but hopefully something like that will be offered in the next step of my education.
 
2010-01-12 12:44:37 PM  
Also, since this seems to be the right crowd and sort of on topic:
Strange Maps
 
2010-01-12 12:47:12 PM  

dangerdoug: "Ka-na-ta."

Is that anything like... "Sa-na-ta-a-na"


LOL! I was thinking the same thing when I read that.
 
2010-01-12 12:52:33 PM  
"No... he means the nation, and Ka-na-ta is it's name."

"But I think he means the village... the people!"

/Not Obscure if you're Canadian
 
2010-01-12 12:55:35 PM  
www.tvcrazy.net
/
 
2010-01-12 12:56:58 PM  

jadeblue: Also, since this seems to be the right crowd and sort of on topic:
Strange Maps


That was cool.
LOL'd at The Afro-Latinosaurus Rex.

/Feel like a big map-nerd now.
 
2010-01-12 12:58:22 PM  
One of my favorite maps. Quite famous but I love all the detail in the margins. 16th Century Dutch Cartography FTW!

Link (new window)

Also Like Ortelus and Hondius. One day I will be making maps again but for now Im just a data monkey :(
 
2010-01-12 01:01:07 PM  

Sapper_Topo: One of my favorite maps. Quite famous but I love all the detail in the margins. 16th Century Dutch Cartography FTW!

Link (new window)

Also Like Ortelus and Hondius. One day I will be making maps again but for now Im just a data monkey :(


Ha WTF? Seriously "Throwing away URL http://www.mapsorama.com/maps/world/J.Blaeu-1664.jpg because their web server is broken and lied about how much data it was sending to us (we tried more than once just to be sure): 403 Forbidden
"
 
2010-01-12 01:08:12 PM  
Weird... why the hell isn't this exhibition listed on the LOC's main page^, exhibition page^, events page^, news page^, or anywhere else on the site, as far as I've found???

The closest I found was a catalog listing for a 1936 copy of it^ and a scanned image of a 1620 condensed and colored hand copy of it^ (described here^).

The James Ford Bell Library site has a page about it^, but still, it's bizarre that the LOC site doesn't seem to mention the exhibition at all yet.

If they add it to the site after I post this, it's still bizarre that they didn't already have a notice about it posted in time for the exhibition's commencement.
 
2010-01-12 01:09:16 PM  

jadeblue: Also, since this seems to be the right crowd and sort of on topic:
Strange Maps


That's awesome, thanks!!
 
2010-01-12 01:21:20 PM  
"Yeah Israel isn't there because Israel wasn't even a country then," (paraphrased) Jed Bartlet.
 
2010-01-12 01:22:01 PM  
I know I'm not the first to the reference, but I like mine better:

"Nobody puts Barbados in the corner."
 
2010-01-12 01:37:59 PM  
Actually it's their vision of the future.........
 
2010-01-12 01:43:18 PM  
Too bad Nicole Ricci didn't follow in his footsteps.
 
2010-01-12 01:43:44 PM  
i216.photobucket.com

Didn't I see this on an episode of the west wing?
 
2010-01-12 01:47:33 PM  
strangemaps.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-01-12 01:47:44 PM  
FTFA: "The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen" or bison, wild horses and a region named "Ka-na-ta."

Ka-na-ta?
I wonder what they mean? Ka-na-ta...
Oh well, I guess we'll never know
 
2010-01-12 02:01:03 PM  

tinyarena: FTFA: "The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen" or bison, wild horses and a region named "Ka-na-ta."

Ka-na-ta?
I wonder what they mean? Ka-na-ta...
Oh well, I guess we'll never know


Your shiat's all tarded
 
2010-01-12 02:08:08 PM  

DeadZone: Didn't I see this on an episode of the west wing?


Why yes...yes you did. I believe it was on a "big block of cheese day" episode.

Link with video segment goodness:
Link (new window)

"You'll let me know if they find Brigadoon on this thing, right?"
 
2010-01-12 02:08:59 PM  
To all the Farkers who believe the GlobalWarming(tm) B.S. :

Please NOTE that the Bering Straight, Hudson Bay, and the North Slope of Alaska are clearly shown in a 1502 map of the world. This means that the Arctic Ocean was 'ICE FREE' before that time, since only wooden boats were available to traverse it.

/I guess that all the Polar Bears were extinct at that time. You know, they drowned because of the lack of ICE.
 
2010-01-12 02:16:31 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2010-01-12 02:21:04 PM  
Ok i'm seriously surprised that i could show up late to the party and no one have mentioned this before....

Several South American places are named, including "Wa-ti-ma-la" (Guatemala), "Yu-ho-t'ang" (Yucatan) and "Chih-Li" (Chile).

Since when did Guatemala and the Yucatan move continents? They get all 'Merica-centric and discount anything that's not US and Canada as not being in North America in an article that's about them being confused that other people aren't always 'Merica-centric.
 
2010-01-12 02:44:53 PM  
i46.tinypic.com

Supposedly a 1763 copy of another map made in 1418.

See, California used to be an island, don't you know.
 
2010-01-12 02:53:21 PM  

dittybopper: Holy Crap! When I did a GIS search for one of Mark E. Rogers maps, I found out that there were *MORE* Samurai Cat books past the first two (which I have).


Say what??

(checks Wikipedia)

Okay, I was one book ahead of you - I have Adventures of Samurai Cat, More Adventures of Samurai Cat, and The Sword of Samurai Cat.

Off to Amazon and eBay to find the rest ...

(I also didn't know that the 1st book 1st edition was limited to 2,225 copies. Let's hear it for my circa 1984 ex-girlfriend who knew I was training in kenjutsu and liked cats!)
 
2010-01-12 02:57:58 PM  

tinyarena: FTFA: "The description of North America is brief with mentions of "humped oxen" or bison, wild horses and a region named "Ka-na-ta."

Ka-na-ta?
I wonder what they mean? Ka-na-ta...
Oh well, I guess we'll never know


According to this Pinyin Translator, it's "Coffee-Southern Part-Humid", so I'm going to guess it stands for Colombia.
 
2010-01-12 03:01:50 PM  

Therion: dittybopper: Holy Crap! When I did a GIS search for one of Mark E. Rogers maps, I found out that there were *MORE* Samurai Cat books past the first two (which I have).

Say what??

(checks Wikipedia)

Okay, I was one book ahead of you - I have Adventures of Samurai Cat, More Adventures of Samurai Cat, and The Sword of Samurai Cat.

Off to Amazon and eBay to find the rest ...

(I also didn't know that the 1st book 1st edition was limited to 2,225 copies. Let's hear it for my circa 1984 ex-girlfriend who knew I was training in kenjutsu and liked cats!)


I'll have to check to see what mine is. Fortunately, I was able to keep them from being stolen, unlike the "Cherry Poptart" comics I used to have.
 
2010-01-12 03:06:04 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

What a stud.
 
2010-01-12 03:11:45 PM  
There were no horses in ancient North America. 400 years ago was 2010-400 = 1610. No spanish yet. No horses.

Those filthy dirty Chinese liars! It is a fake!

Don't invest, molest!
 
2010-01-12 03:37:47 PM  

William Effin Buckley: There were no horses in ancient North America. 400 years ago was 2010-400 = 1610. No spanish yet. No horses.


This has to be either the stupidest or the most clever thing I have read all day. It's like Schrodinger's Fark post, and I'm waiting for WEB to collapse the wave function for me.
 
2010-01-12 03:57:21 PM  

DJMikeWazowski: Ok i'm seriously surprised that i could show up late to the party and no one have mentioned this before....

Several South American places are named, including "Wa-ti-ma-la" (Guatemala), "Yu-ho-t'ang" (Yucatan) and "Chih-Li" (Chile).

Since when did Guatemala and the Yucatan move continents? They get all 'Merica-centric and discount anything that's not US and Canada as not being in North America in an article that's about them being confused that other people aren't always 'Merica-centric.


this is exactly what i was looking for
glad to see i wasn't the only one who took it into consideration
 
2010-01-12 03:57:30 PM  
why is this suprising? we live on a sphere. there is no beginning or end to it. when drawing a flat representation of that sphere you have to pick a spot to be the center. Where you live is a natural place to do that.
 
2010-01-12 04:41:45 PM  

William Effin Buckley: There were no horses in ancient North America. 400 years ago was 2010-400 = 1610. No spanish yet. No horses.

Those filthy dirty Chinese liars! It is a fake!

Don't invest, molest!


This comment works better if you substitute the word "horses" with the word "assholes"
 
2010-01-12 05:32:58 PM  

Dick_Hertz: To all the Farkers who believe the GlobalWarming(tm) B.S. :

Please NOTE that the Bering Straight, Hudson Bay, and the North Slope of Alaska are clearly shown in a 1502 map of the world. This means that the Arctic Ocean was 'ICE FREE' before that time, since only wooden boats were available to traverse it.

/I guess that all the Polar Bears were extinct at that time. You know, they drowned because of the lack of ICE.



Good Lord, I hope you're just trolling. You can't seriously be ignorant of what it was that Henry Hudson, the bay's namesake, searched for in vain... can you?
 
2010-01-12 06:11:33 PM  
China still sees the world that way. Understand that and you understand China.
 
2010-01-12 06:21:32 PM  
WOW! Also had no idea so many GIS pros here. NAD 27 sucks. Where is Preston John?
 
2010-01-12 06:53:03 PM  

dittybopper: This has to be either the stupidest or the most clever thing I have read all day. It's like Schrodinger's Fark post, and I'm waiting for WEB to collapse the wave function for me.


The Schwarzschild radius of the web is too big for it to collapse. I know this because I can see these words!!

Fatty!
 
2010-01-12 10:19:44 PM  
40 cartography references and no pics of Buster Bluth?

/leaving disappointed
//oh god..
 
2010-01-13 10:46:34 AM  

William Effin Buckley: dittybopper: This has to be either the stupidest or the most clever thing I have read all day. It's like Schrodinger's Fark post, and I'm waiting for WEB to collapse the wave function for me.

The Schwarzschild radius of the web is too big for it to collapse. I know this because I can see these words!!

Fatty!


Well, that certainly resolves the ambiguity.
 
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