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2010-01-09 03:51:33 PM
+1 for "disaster-porn"
 
2010-01-09 03:57:28 PM
Heh. I thought the headline meant me for a sec. Good one, subby.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2010-01-09 04:08:52 PM
I missed that in the initial press release. I probably read the lead and, knowing that a supernova a kiloparsec away wouldn't fry us, stopped reading. I thought supernova kill radius was one of those figures that an astrophysicist would have in his head. Not exactly, because there is no exactly here, but enough to recognize a difference of a factor of 100 in distance or 10^4 in radiation level. Or maybe that's just me and my morbid curiosty about how the planet could be destroyed.
 
2010-01-09 04:37:21 PM
And then scientists wonder why nobody believes them anymore...
 
2010-01-09 04:44:23 PM
The Bad Astronomer: Heh. I thought the headline meant me for a sec. Good one, subby.

Well it's your article, isn't it?
 
2010-01-09 04:46:58 PM
Weaver95: And then scientists wonder why nobody believes them anymore...

I blame reporters and the public more than scientists. You have a press release that says "A star may be going supernova soon" and no one cares. You throw in the line "AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!1!11" and suddenly, everyone picks it up which means more grant money for study.
 
2010-01-09 04:50:34 PM
cache.jalopnik.com
Let's go burn down the observatory so this'll never happen again!
 
2010-01-09 04:53:57 PM
"I bring the scientists, you bring the rock star."
 
2010-01-09 05:02:12 PM
blogs.discovermagazine.com
 
2010-01-09 05:05:52 PM
Even if it could wipe us out, wouldn't that happen in about 2200 years? And by then wouldn't I employed by my 80 year old nephew?
 
2010-01-09 05:07:55 PM
The Bad Astronomer: Heh. I thought the headline meant me for a sec. Good one, subby.

That was a great article. I'm going to read it to my terrified friends.
 
2010-01-09 05:13:28 PM
Where is that Science-News cycle thing.
 
2010-01-09 05:14:26 PM
Did he use Mike's Nature trick?

/Not enough AGW threads lately.
 
2010-01-09 05:14:53 PM
Well with the Global Warming hoax losing scare points they are looking for the next best thing to recoup their losses
 
2010-01-09 05:16:10 PM
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2010-01-09 05:16:46 PM
jaylectricity: Even if it could wipe us out, wouldn't that happen in about 2200 years? And by then wouldn't I employed by my 80 year old nephew?

I see what you did there

*image of Philip J. Fry squinting*


/too lazy to look for real pic
 
2010-01-09 05:17:00 PM
oleanderphantasm

That's the one.
 
2010-01-09 05:17:49 PM
Billygoat Gruff: Well with the Global Warming hoax losing scare points they are looking for the next best thing to recoup their losses

Because THEY are the same scientists.
 
2010-01-09 05:18:52 PM
The Bad Astronomer: Heh. I thought the headline meant me for a sec. Good one, subby.

I was going to run in and yell "I <3 U PHIL PLAIT!" to no one in particular but... I love you Phil Plait. Bad Astronomy and JREF have long been favourites of mine.

So, seriously. I love you Phil Plait.

Weaver95: And then scientists wonder why nobody believes them anymore...

So you don't believe scientists, even though a scientist issued the correction. So you disbelieve the scientist's correction, and believe the original scientist? Or is it all very recursive and meta, hyperparadoxical? How do you cherry pick which to believe? Is it merely that which is convenient for you?
 
2010-01-09 05:19:10 PM
so, we'll go out with a whimper...
 
2010-01-09 05:21:01 PM
i48.tinypic.com

Science is interesting enough. It doesn't need exclamation points.
 
2010-01-09 05:22:01 PM
FTFA - The UK paper The Sun - which is so awful fish complain when you wrap them in it -

I only mention this because Fark frequently gets submissions from the "newspaper" mentioned above...
 
2010-01-09 05:22:49 PM
Dr. Mojo PhD: So you don't believe scientists, even though a scientist issued the correction. So you disbelieve the scientist's correction, and believe the original scientist? Or is it all very recursive and meta, hyperparadoxical? How do you cherry pick which to believe? Is it merely that which is convenient for you?

If a few scientists are bad, they are all bad.

Cops, soldiers, people I don't have an ideological axe to grind, not so much.
 
2010-01-09 05:23:11 PM
Surely, John Cusack will save us from this madness.
 
2010-01-09 05:24:03 PM
Weaver95: And then scientists wonder why nobody believes them anymore...

Scientists don't write press releases.

I've had a hell of a time getting my communications department to phrase things appropriately so that they're not misleading what I've written. I also have to follow them at every step so, at the various levels of "approval" required before we release something into the public domain, it isn't edited so that the message is botched.
 
2010-01-09 05:25:39 PM
Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.
 
2010-01-09 05:27:54 PM
bartink: If a few scientists are bad, they are all bad.

Cops, soldiers, people I don't have an ideological axe to grind, not so much.


Naturally, but if you take what a scientist writes as right, and then use that as evidence that scientists are wrong, it becomes a statement much like "this statement is a lie." It gives me a headache.
 
2010-01-09 05:28:04 PM
Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

scienceblogs.com
 
2010-01-09 05:28:08 PM
Damn.. I'm trying to work out what ~100,000erg would translate to when placed in rems/rads (seeing as the article is quoting ergs as gamma radiation, which to me is unusual).

Any help from the geeks?
 
2010-01-09 05:28:20 PM
Dr. Mojo PhD: So you don't believe scientists, even though a scientist issued the correction. So you disbelieve the scientist's correction, and believe the original scientist? Or is it all very recursive and meta, hyperparadoxical? How do you cherry pick which to believe? Is it merely that which is convenient for you?

it would have been better to NOT have issued the inflammatory statement in the beginning. scientists are presumably smart folks, right? they should be smart enough to control their own press releases.

But that wasn't my point. you already KNOW my point, but since you seem to have long term memory problems I'll state it again for you - if you keep crying wolf, eventually people stop listening to you. even when you finally come across a valid problem that needs immediate attention - nobody will listen. it's an old story, and one that we all learn as kids. But apparently all these so called 'smart' scientists have forgotten about it.
 
2010-01-09 05:29:46 PM
Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

It's comments like these that make me love FARK. Give me a minute while I make some popcorn.
 
2010-01-09 05:30:09 PM
GoodHomer: Weaver95: And then scientists wonder why nobody believes them anymore...

Scientists don't write press releases.


sure they do. they might not have final say...but they DO write press releases. And what they say carries weight with people. it's up to the guy who's name is on the press release to make sure it reflects his views. anything else is just plain sloppy.
 
2010-01-09 05:30:59 PM
Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

Not if the super nova event happened 3300 years and one month ago.
 
2010-01-09 05:31:09 PM
Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

Except, if it happened 3299 years ago, wouldn't we not know until it hit is?
 
2010-01-09 05:31:30 PM
I love the term "Scientists". It's like calling margarine, butter. What does the public actually think? There's a scientist union, you pay your dues and get a free t-shirt and identity card that gives you the right to call yourself scientist? I have a BEng. Where do I get my t-shirt? And I want a flashing light for my car so I can drive really, really fast. Outta the way jackass...I'm a scientist!
 
2010-01-09 05:31:52 PM
Steve Zodiac: Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

Not if the super nova event happened 3300 years and one month ago.


Ten seconds! Yousunovabiatch!
 
2010-01-09 05:32:21 PM
Steve Zodiac: Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

Not if the super nova event happened 3300 years and one month ago.


Wrong way: 3200 years, 11 months ago.
 
2010-01-09 05:32:38 PM
Russ1642
It's comments like these that make me love FARK. Give me a minute while I make some popcorn.

Think I'll get any takers? :)


Ooh, just saw that I got bartink

Anyone else? lol
 
2010-01-09 05:32:49 PM
Weaver95: But that wasn't my point. you already KNOW my point, but since you seem to have long term memory problems I'll state it again for you - if you keep crying wolf, eventually people stop listening to you. even when you finally come across a valid problem that needs immediate attention - nobody will listen. it's an old story, and one that we all learn as kids. But apparently all these so called 'smart' scientists have forgotten about it.

Your point is ridiculous, that was the problem.

You are generalizing across disciplines and individual scientists. All scientists don't do this crap. A very small number, in this case one, do this.

If you want to blame someone, blame the media. They are the ones that hype this garbage without even asking another scientist in the field.

It would be like having a soldier rape thread and insinuating that most or all soldiers are rapists.
 
2010-01-09 05:33:36 PM
indarwinsshadow: Where do I get my t-shirt? And I want a flashing light for my car so I can drive really, really fast. Outta the way jackass...I'm a scientist!

I bought this shirt from xkcd:

www.bradkovach.com

Love it.

/suggest buying a large if you normally wear medium shirts, as it is kinda small
 
2010-01-09 05:33:40 PM
Scorched Colon: Well, it might happen. But since T Pyxidis is 3300 light years away it would take 3300 years before the radiation reached us. So its kind of a moot point to debate.

So how do you think the light from the event reaches us in the first place? Magic? The event that was observed in 1967, do you think it happened in 1967 too?

Are you farking with me?
 
2010-01-09 05:33:58 PM
Somehow I got the mental picture of Phil rapping the other scientist across the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
 
2010-01-09 05:34:23 PM
Dr. Mojo PhD: Are you farking with me?

Evidently he is trolling.
 
2010-01-09 05:34:38 PM
indarwinsshadow: I love the term "Scientists". It's like calling margarine, butter. What does the public actually think? There's a scientist union, you pay your dues and get a free t-shirt and identity card that gives you the right to call yourself scientist? I have a BEng. Where do I get my t-shirt? And I want a flashing light for my car so I can drive really, really fast. Outta the way jackass...I'm a scientist!

Agrees that everyone should back off scientists:

scrapetv.com
 
2010-01-09 05:35:11 PM
Ooh, add Steve Zodiac and TheAngryGazebo.
 
2010-01-09 05:35:21 PM
MentalMoment:
i48.tinypic.com
Science is interesting enough. It doesn't need exclamation points.


Roll 6d6 damage to Planet Earth!!!
 
2010-01-09 05:35:31 PM
What has the bible got to say about this?

Hmm?
 
2010-01-09 05:38:28 PM
Dr. Mojo PhD

Are you farking with me?

Not specifically. Just the ones the don't know basic science (or logic for that matter). :)
 
2010-01-09 05:39:23 PM
I found the ad for "Death From The Skies" on the sidebar both ironic and amusing.

(I assume if I read the book I would realize the context, but still that's pretty funny.)
 
2010-01-09 05:39:27 PM
th07.deviantart.net
 
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